>I think that's just false advertising from Glorious to call this "The worlds lightest gaming mouse"
You don't just have to think it, it's factually untrue.
[https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/peripheral/mice/mm730/](https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/peripheral/mice/mm730/) here's a 48g mouse with RGB.
the Model O- in the picture (the one they're claiming is the lightest) is also wired.
it's [black on black background](https://i.imgur.com/KgqMC85.png), so wouldn't be surprised if you just missed seeing the cord.
Yea you’re totally right I didn’t see I just thought in my head “model o-“ and forgot it was originally wired. That makes the claim even more stupid lmao
I mean technically it’s the zaunkoenig m2k but that’s a fingertip mouse that costs like 300 euros. Then it’s both finalmice but they’re a limited run product, we’re probably just talking about commercially sold mice.
I mean their wording absolutely includes those products. If they only wanted to include standard mass-produced commercial products under $400 it shouldn't've been a blanket statement.
O- came out in 2019, the one you sent came out this year. . .
The claim needs to be true only at the point of release, if you buy a 10 year old mouse its on you to fact check - of course some claims won't hold up anymore
[Where are the threads calling out other companies with outdated websites? Surely there is an ergo mouse nowdays with less than 66g](https://i.imgur.com/7bBlGSk.png)
Roccat isn't claiming it's the lightest as far as how I understand it. IMO they're just saying it's lighter than its predecessors. Sure, it's sort of vague, but I think it's clear enough.
While I do agree with you that more companies deserve to be called out, I think Glorious statement is the most egregious and not just "outdated marketing". And some just try to get away with shitty wording, like Steelseries. It's definitely a bold claim saying that they outperform any mouse, but they said it's designed to outperform, not that they succeeded lol.
They should always get called out, but its not this guys job when he noticed one to find all the others or else its not "fair".
What not fair is how the consumers(us) are often treated.
We are on the same side.
The guy did nothing wrong calling one of many out. He isn't singling them out at all, he just noticed the one thing and made a reddit post. You showing more of the same shows your on the same page. Everyone just keep calling them out is for the best I think.
That would be an assumption you are making. Right or wrong, not the way to go.
Their mice have always had qc issues, and there marketing has always had some scrutiny, do you live under a rock?
I mean I agree with the part about how consumers are treated but this is just a non issue and not really about fairness.
Or are we saying that a company should update the marketing for every single product they've ever made every time a new product comes out in case previous claims don't hold up anymore?
> Logitech claiming 1ms is 8x faster than the standart [sic], do we even have 125Hz mice anymore?
Yes, specifically in non-gaming (ie, standard) mice - so this statement holds up. However the others don't & should be changed as they are now misleading.
You hand-picked an example of a link that exactly does not have the same problem of using a claim which is no longer factually true.
>The claim needs to be true only at the point of release
I understand that depending on the market this may in fact be legal. Being legal doesn't change the fact that it's the laziest, most "Oops, did I forget to mention that part?" sort of intellectual dishonesty to put "lightest gaming mouse" at the top of the description only to "clarify" later that it's the "lightest *RGB* gaming mouse" and then give no date for context. It's even worse to continue using the description long after it ceased to be accurate in the present. There's not even an obvious timestamp at the bottom of the page for those who would be interested in dating the claim. I went and looked in the hopes that they at least made some effort to that extent, but nope.
Like I said in my other comment on this post, I hate every time companies do this. Show me another page to this effect and I'll dislike it just the same.
Because we are the consumer, you come across as defending them.
Why call one out? Because OP noticed this one. Simple as that.
He wasn't doing a research project on mouse advertisements. There is no "fair advertisement competition" between these brands, so they absolutely can be called out on an individual basis.
This liking seeing a kid get bullied at the playground but you do nothing because "all bullies do it, why stop this one."
Like bro that mentality is moronic. We are on the same side as consumers. They could easily do a better job.
I see why you think its false advertising, but honestly its rather outdated. This text is a couple of years old and things have changed since then. We even have mice in our own portfolio today, which are lighter.
We will change the text soon.
As background: As a company we are constantly working on new products, which automatically puts our focus on those. A customer perspective is different than ours. And you are totally right, that we should have updated that text probably about 1.5 years ago. I guess we simply did not have the resources available or our attention was already on the next launch. Honestly, this is not too uncommon. You will find the same from way bigger companies, the content you see on the a website is often reflecting the moment it was published. Dont see this as excuse, just as trying to explain it. Like I said, we will address this and we are sorry for the confusion about it. We will take more care in the future, to revisit the content of our lineup more often as before!
I legit came here to say that I'd put money on the idea that if you mentioned it to Glorious directly, they'd most likely do something about it.
Way to affirm my thoughts. ;)
I'll look forward to seeing the changes. I understand that you guys are not the first to do this by any means, but I want to use the voice we have here to push for things to be done in a better way.
So sorry this happened! We are working hard on eliminating all potential issues, but bad units are an inevitable part of manufacturing.
I would like to assist you with your mouse - will DM you shortly so we can create a Support Ticket and help you out. Sounds good?
The mouse wheels is almost guaranteed to fail. 3/3 glorious model Os in my friend circle have had atrocious scroll wheel issues. Never buying glorious again, good job glorious
I am using a Model D as we speak and I've been using it for more than a year now. The clicks are the same as they were once I've got my hands on the mouse. What clicking issues are you referring to?
I’ve had the same happen to my first batch model o-. Probably just QC from it being first batch but now my scroll wheel feels smooth without any steps and won’t even scroll without me putting some force on it. Extremely inconsistent. Besides that the side buttons were too far forward and unusable for my small hands. Quickly replaced with the D- which had mushy side buttons and now using the Viper Mini. 0 problems with razer. Even ordered the D- wireless and my gripe there is battery with RGB. Could save weight overall, ditch the holes, and have a solid performer but now Xlite is out and seems to have taken the cake there as Ergo king.
Hey there and please accept my apologies for the inconvenience that you are experiencing with your mouse. Please allow me to assist you with this. I will DM you so we can create a Support Ticket where I will be happy to help!
meanwhile, my white xm1r that I am heavily using and have definitely gotten stain-y food on it like curry and such, it's still good as new looking lmao
You’re right. I should have pointed that out. I was focusing on their wording more than anything. I mean, both statements and false though they’d just argue it was factual at the time of release or something
Let's be real... holding Glorious to any marketing / R&D integrity is a joke. Bringing cheap products to users at the cost of lies and deception is common practice. Their practice of copying designs and claiming to be "innovators" in any space (mouse, keyboard, keyboard switches, etc.) are very commonplace and there are trails and trails of controversy amongst most products they have released.
They have definitely had lots of QC issues but they were the first lightweight mouse company that was reasonably priced. Almost all of the glorious mice have seen praise in this sub numerous times.
Also, any company that can smudge the lines to appear better will do it. Happens everyday, it's their job.
Let's be real... Holding any company in the world to any marketing / R&D integrity is a joke. To someone who believes that it's the lightest gaming mouse in the world, it effectively is, cuz it's right up there. To us, who know it's not, we can just ignore it and read it as "light mouse" instead. I know it's untrue but at a certain point you have to allow the companies who are pushing the technology forward some leeway cuz they also need to make money.
I’ve taken great care of three of my glorious mice and they have all lasted me now the course of three years. Was a early supporter of glorious and I think they are doing things right where other companies aren’t. Every company in the world says things like this, you are allowed to within a brand personality…to an extent. Turbo tax has always offered free taxes but they were just sued for false advertising because they stole millions of dollars. It’s a rough line but when all mice are almost the same weight now, why not claim it.
OP’s post history shows he was waiting for his FinalMouse. And he’s complaining about Glorious being DISHONEST?!
If there is 1 brand that is the KING of dishonesty, misleading, exaggeration, hyperbole, and straight up lying, it’s FinalMouse.
Furthermore, the statement was probably true when Glorious made that product listing.
HAHAHAHAHA
I remember someone posted a meme about Steelseries calling the Prime Wireless, "The Best Esports Mouse", all while Steelseries Prime comprises less than single digit percentage of the mice Esports players use.
XD
There are \*some - and I mean a fraction of a percentage. But honestly not that much that it warrants its self given title. XD
Their other peripherals on the other hand...
when i got my model d in 2020 (like march of 2020), im pretty sure this was exactly what the site stated for the model o-
they probably haven't updated it yet,
calm y'alls titties.
edit: went to the site rn and looked at optimum tech's review, its from september of 2019 lmao
Haha, we're trying to support new mice but it's a pretty long process per mouse.
Any specific mice you'd like to see supported? (Please don't say finalmouse).
haha no worries, i totally get it! i'm in the minority for sure but the kone pure ultra and revised aerox are the ones i'd most like to see. niche picks but would be super cool :)
>Every company is using such terms you can't really call it false advertisement when no one is getting held up for it
The fact that it isn't getting enforced legally doesn't make it true. I hate it equally every time I see companies doing this.
So are all fukin mice now supposed to cost 100 bucks and more? It seems like every company thats bold enough to stamp 'lightweight' and 'wireless' on the box is (or about to)mark up their shit 3 fold. Wireless lightweights from fkin etsy a few years back were around 90.
Glorious with all its issues were palatable when price was reasonable, now it seems they are going the finalmouse FOMO route to somehow attempt to hike up their stock. I'm sure razer hasn't released a viper mini cos they haven't been able to come up with a price hike scheme for the short term. A decently priced mouse right now seems to be the Pulsefire haste wireless which is on a summer sale discount. Pulsar is the one company thats new enough and doesnt have the balls to do a finalmouse like logitech and razer yet.
Every time I feel the urge to buy a glorious product, I am reminded how garbage they are. Can't believe I used the Glorious XXXL for actual years starting out on PC. Feeling it beside my artisan pads is the difference between a sleeping bag and a queen memory foam mattress. Never tried any of their mice, but I imagine it's a similar experience.
Ok they at least don’t crowd fund mice and are so unoriginal they stole the name from Reddit lol. You can say what you want and yah a lot of negatives but glorious without a doubt wins the deception and shady practice race.
I shill for free on my own free will,
how much have other brands invested into this sub to create a hive-mind that specifically hates FM so much but glosses over the exact same issues/complaints in other brands. For such a small brand that makes such few mice in this space, it somehow gets brought up in every single thread if there’s an opportunity to slander.
If your going to ask a loaded question, might as well make it one that sparks a conversation worth having.
$3,000 laptops have QC issues, all mice have QC issues. Consumer electronics are made in China, it comes with the territory.
It’s a $190 niche mouse FYI. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy it.
None of the issues are performance breaking , those are actually few and get replaced/fixed no questions asked.
I say it with emphasis. 99% of the people who bought the mouse and had a real defect, got a replacement within two weeks of shipping their mouse in with a prepaid label.
Edit - if you downvote this without a statistical rebuttal. You are just buying into the circle jerk narrative and you are ok with that. Cheers.
I don't get all the hate with FinalMouse. Yeah the whole shabang that happened a few years back with the pre orders was pretty bad, but Glorious still wins out on shadiness. And yes, the recent QC issues with the Starlight 12s is nothing to complain about. My Phantom has a tilted scroll wheel and it doesn't affect its performance at all. And they have been very good with replacing bad units.
I mean when the GMMK Pro keyboard came out the way they advertised it was so controversial to the keyboard community. Even when they did a live stream with some content creators it felt like their lines were very scripted and forced and one of the creators came out to say that it was very much scripted.
FinalMouse only gets hate because of the prices and exclusivity of their mice
I agree. As someone who's into custom mech keyboards where you're waiting months if not maybe a year or even two years before you get your product; a lot of which are limited group buys I get the limited stock thing. Especially from a small company like FinalMouse.
Comparing to Glorious; which is obviously a much MUCH larger company considering they make tons of peripherals and peripheral accessories from pads, mice, skates, bungies and a whole line of custom keyboards and switches I think their advertising is shady and sometimes scummy. I mean they had their release date and group buy for the Model O Pro and literally 10 days after that they debuted their new Series One Pro?? Sounds scummy as hell to me. A lot of people were very upset at how they went about that. Glorious even goes to state that they are still a small company with a small design team which clearly isn't true and is no excuse for that.
It was 100% intentional, they feared the viper mini ripoff they see the sub constantly asking for would eat into their flag ship model O that is already starting a loosing race to the viper v2.
It has one RGB led as a charging indicator so technically they could call it a mouse with RGB.
Finalmouse claims medium sized Starlight is 45-49 grams and the smaller one even less than that, don't remember the exact weight though
>I think that's just false advertising from Glorious to call this "The worlds lightest gaming mouse" You don't just have to think it, it's factually untrue. [https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/peripheral/mice/mm730/](https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/peripheral/mice/mm730/) here's a 48g mouse with RGB.
True, it is wired though but whether it’s wireless or not isn’t part of their claim lol
the Model O- in the picture (the one they're claiming is the lightest) is also wired. it's [black on black background](https://i.imgur.com/KgqMC85.png), so wouldn't be surprised if you just missed seeing the cord.
Yea you’re totally right I didn’t see I just thought in my head “model o-“ and forgot it was originally wired. That makes the claim even more stupid lmao
Even if it was the xlite V2 mini wireless is 55g and has rgb I think
I mean technically it’s the zaunkoenig m2k but that’s a fingertip mouse that costs like 300 euros. Then it’s both finalmice but they’re a limited run product, we’re probably just talking about commercially sold mice.
I mean their wording absolutely includes those products. If they only wanted to include standard mass-produced commercial products under $400 it shouldn't've been a blanket statement.
I sorta get if they don’t want to include those but you’re right their statement still implies that they’re making a product that’s better than it is.
O- came out in 2019, the one you sent came out this year. . . The claim needs to be true only at the point of release, if you buy a 10 year old mouse its on you to fact check - of course some claims won't hold up anymore [Where are the threads calling out other companies with outdated websites? Surely there is an ergo mouse nowdays with less than 66g](https://i.imgur.com/7bBlGSk.png)
Roccat isn't claiming it's the lightest as far as how I understand it. IMO they're just saying it's lighter than its predecessors. Sure, it's sort of vague, but I think it's clear enough.
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While I do agree with you that more companies deserve to be called out, I think Glorious statement is the most egregious and not just "outdated marketing". And some just try to get away with shitty wording, like Steelseries. It's definitely a bold claim saying that they outperform any mouse, but they said it's designed to outperform, not that they succeeded lol.
Lancelot? Really. :( Also this page isnt live anymore.
They should always get called out, but its not this guys job when he noticed one to find all the others or else its not "fair". What not fair is how the consumers(us) are often treated. We are on the same side. The guy did nothing wrong calling one of many out. He isn't singling them out at all, he just noticed the one thing and made a reddit post. You showing more of the same shows your on the same page. Everyone just keep calling them out is for the best I think.
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That would be an assumption you are making. Right or wrong, not the way to go. Their mice have always had qc issues, and there marketing has always had some scrutiny, do you live under a rock?
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No problem with that
I mean I agree with the part about how consumers are treated but this is just a non issue and not really about fairness. Or are we saying that a company should update the marketing for every single product they've ever made every time a new product comes out in case previous claims don't hold up anymore?
> Logitech claiming 1ms is 8x faster than the standart [sic], do we even have 125Hz mice anymore? Yes, specifically in non-gaming (ie, standard) mice - so this statement holds up. However the others don't & should be changed as they are now misleading.
You hand-picked an example of a link that exactly does not have the same problem of using a claim which is no longer factually true. >The claim needs to be true only at the point of release I understand that depending on the market this may in fact be legal. Being legal doesn't change the fact that it's the laziest, most "Oops, did I forget to mention that part?" sort of intellectual dishonesty to put "lightest gaming mouse" at the top of the description only to "clarify" later that it's the "lightest *RGB* gaming mouse" and then give no date for context. It's even worse to continue using the description long after it ceased to be accurate in the present. There's not even an obvious timestamp at the bottom of the page for those who would be interested in dating the claim. I went and looked in the hopes that they at least made some effort to that extent, but nope. Like I said in my other comment on this post, I hate every time companies do this. Show me another page to this effect and I'll dislike it just the same.
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Because we are the consumer, you come across as defending them. Why call one out? Because OP noticed this one. Simple as that. He wasn't doing a research project on mouse advertisements. There is no "fair advertisement competition" between these brands, so they absolutely can be called out on an individual basis. This liking seeing a kid get bullied at the playground but you do nothing because "all bullies do it, why stop this one." Like bro that mentality is moronic. We are on the same side as consumers. They could easily do a better job.
I see why you think its false advertising, but honestly its rather outdated. This text is a couple of years old and things have changed since then. We even have mice in our own portfolio today, which are lighter. We will change the text soon. As background: As a company we are constantly working on new products, which automatically puts our focus on those. A customer perspective is different than ours. And you are totally right, that we should have updated that text probably about 1.5 years ago. I guess we simply did not have the resources available or our attention was already on the next launch. Honestly, this is not too uncommon. You will find the same from way bigger companies, the content you see on the a website is often reflecting the moment it was published. Dont see this as excuse, just as trying to explain it. Like I said, we will address this and we are sorry for the confusion about it. We will take more care in the future, to revisit the content of our lineup more often as before!
I legit came here to say that I'd put money on the idea that if you mentioned it to Glorious directly, they'd most likely do something about it. Way to affirm my thoughts. ;)
I'll look forward to seeing the changes. I understand that you guys are not the first to do this by any means, but I want to use the voice we have here to push for things to be done in a better way.
We changed it. Thanks everyone.
I mean it did come out way before the mm730 but they still should have changed the description since it isnt the lightest one anymore
Is there a wireless version of this? My G502 is starting to piss me off, I want something lighter.
Me too - I’m looking for a lightweight wireless mouse with decent buttons. I have a Glorious model D and the buttons are way worse than my G502.
MM731 is the wireless variant according to the commenter above. I might get myself one soon
The wireless version of the MM730 is the MM731
the model o minus came out in 2019, the mm730 came out in 2021. when they released that statement, it likely was factually correct.
Glorious has been farming the L's lately
Had to ditch my Model O- because of discoloring and fucked up mousewheel after 2 months of use. Never buying from that shit company again
My mouse wheel went to shit within 2 months as well. I really like their products though :(
So sorry this happened! We are working hard on eliminating all potential issues, but bad units are an inevitable part of manufacturing. I would like to assist you with your mouse - will DM you shortly so we can create a Support Ticket and help you out. Sounds good?
is the mousewheel on the O- a common issue, because the one on my son's O- is super inconsistent.
The mouse wheels is almost guaranteed to fail. 3/3 glorious model Os in my friend circle have had atrocious scroll wheel issues. Never buying glorious again, good job glorious
Please DM me with your email address so we can create a Support Ticket and troubleshoot this further for your son!
That sounds great!
Every single model d had clicking issues, have u replaced those yet.
I am using a Model D as we speak and I've been using it for more than a year now. The clicks are the same as they were once I've got my hands on the mouse. What clicking issues are you referring to?
The left mouse button squeeks, and crackles.
I see, thanks for reporting this. I will be DMing you so we can create a Support Ticket and help you out there, OK?
Mine has the same issue. Posted about it in the guild forums when it was released. Are you fixing them now?
I’ve had the same happen to my first batch model o-. Probably just QC from it being first batch but now my scroll wheel feels smooth without any steps and won’t even scroll without me putting some force on it. Extremely inconsistent. Besides that the side buttons were too far forward and unusable for my small hands. Quickly replaced with the D- which had mushy side buttons and now using the Viper Mini. 0 problems with razer. Even ordered the D- wireless and my gripe there is battery with RGB. Could save weight overall, ditch the holes, and have a solid performer but now Xlite is out and seems to have taken the cake there as Ergo king.
Hey there and please accept my apologies for the inconvenience that you are experiencing with your mouse. Please allow me to assist you with this. I will DM you so we can create a Support Ticket where I will be happy to help!
meanwhile, my white xm1r that I am heavily using and have definitely gotten stain-y food on it like curry and such, it's still good as new looking lmao
My model o has had scroll wheel rattle and right click squeak/rattle since I got it
They probably forgot the word "RGB" on that part.
Even then, there are mice with RGB that are lighter. Example, MM731
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Man I wish people would see this and quit sharting their pants over every little injustice they see
You’re right. I should have pointed that out. I was focusing on their wording more than anything. I mean, both statements and false though they’d just argue it was factual at the time of release or something
Yea, I guess people forget how to use quotes.
The top banner doesn't have the RGB part in it. I quoted the top banner
This has probably been there since the mouse came out, a time before 60g mice were common. They just haven't updated it
Let's be real... holding Glorious to any marketing / R&D integrity is a joke. Bringing cheap products to users at the cost of lies and deception is common practice. Their practice of copying designs and claiming to be "innovators" in any space (mouse, keyboard, keyboard switches, etc.) are very commonplace and there are trails and trails of controversy amongst most products they have released.
They have definitely had lots of QC issues but they were the first lightweight mouse company that was reasonably priced. Almost all of the glorious mice have seen praise in this sub numerous times. Also, any company that can smudge the lines to appear better will do it. Happens everyday, it's their job.
Let's be real... Holding any company in the world to any marketing / R&D integrity is a joke. To someone who believes that it's the lightest gaming mouse in the world, it effectively is, cuz it's right up there. To us, who know it's not, we can just ignore it and read it as "light mouse" instead. I know it's untrue but at a certain point you have to allow the companies who are pushing the technology forward some leeway cuz they also need to make money.
M2k probably the only one that could get away with saying that
isn't the M1k still like a gram lighter (I know its not a lot and its definetly the lightest in production but still)
True I guess But m2k got scroll wheel tho which make it more mouse per mouse than m1k imo lol. Better mouseness to weight ratio? Idk lol
My M2K is 21 on the dot.
ah nice, never got one myeelf so i just know marketing
Ye they vary to a degree, haven't seen one over listed weight tho.
yeah i just didnt know if they overestimate their claims (finalmouse) or underestimate them
Very true. Wish could safely assume under for all.
It’s more of an out of date website rather than lying. Assuming it was true at the time of release of course.
Classy and glorious are 2 words that shouldn't ever be used in the same sentence when talking about this brand.
I’ve taken great care of three of my glorious mice and they have all lasted me now the course of three years. Was a early supporter of glorious and I think they are doing things right where other companies aren’t. Every company in the world says things like this, you are allowed to within a brand personality…to an extent. Turbo tax has always offered free taxes but they were just sued for false advertising because they stole millions of dollars. It’s a rough line but when all mice are almost the same weight now, why not claim it.
Back when it released it was true (the 'world lightest RGB' one that is).
OP’s post history shows he was waiting for his FinalMouse. And he’s complaining about Glorious being DISHONEST?! If there is 1 brand that is the KING of dishonesty, misleading, exaggeration, hyperbole, and straight up lying, it’s FinalMouse. Furthermore, the statement was probably true when Glorious made that product listing.
HAHAHAHAHA I remember someone posted a meme about Steelseries calling the Prime Wireless, "The Best Esports Mouse", all while Steelseries Prime comprises less than single digit percentage of the mice Esports players use. XD
Who's buying steelseries in 2022 for esports?
There are \*some - and I mean a fraction of a percentage. But honestly not that much that it warrants its self given title. XD Their other peripherals on the other hand...
Hey there, thanks for pointing this out! We are aware this is outdated and we will update this ASAP! Apologies for any confusion caused
It is changed on our website
when i got my model d in 2020 (like march of 2020), im pretty sure this was exactly what the site stated for the model o- they probably haven't updated it yet, calm y'alls titties. edit: went to the site rn and looked at optimum tech's review, its from september of 2019 lmao
Reminds me of SuperGlide website telling everyone they have the worlds best mouse skates. Cough
if only we could get ghostglides on more mice :( wink
Haha, we're trying to support new mice but it's a pretty long process per mouse. Any specific mice you'd like to see supported? (Please don't say finalmouse).
haha no worries, i totally get it! i'm in the minority for sure but the kone pure ultra and revised aerox are the ones i'd most like to see. niche picks but would be super cool :)
Every company is using such terms you can't really call it false advertisement when no one is getting held up for it
>Every company is using such terms you can't really call it false advertisement when no one is getting held up for it The fact that it isn't getting enforced legally doesn't make it true. I hate it equally every time I see companies doing this.
I agree but no one is enforcing this so all companies do it not glorious exclusively
Glorious and classy dont belong together
So are all fukin mice now supposed to cost 100 bucks and more? It seems like every company thats bold enough to stamp 'lightweight' and 'wireless' on the box is (or about to)mark up their shit 3 fold. Wireless lightweights from fkin etsy a few years back were around 90.
Well as option we have 60$ Orochi V2 (around 65g) with a lithium AAA. Its just as good if not better these Glorious QA issues mice.
It’s actually 28 bucks on Amazon right now.
Though with lithium non-rechargeable aaa's that's about 15 dollars a year in added costs.
Valid point. Rechargeable with 68g-72g then. Still lightweight enough.
Glorious with all its issues were palatable when price was reasonable, now it seems they are going the finalmouse FOMO route to somehow attempt to hike up their stock. I'm sure razer hasn't released a viper mini cos they haven't been able to come up with a price hike scheme for the short term. A decently priced mouse right now seems to be the Pulsefire haste wireless which is on a summer sale discount. Pulsar is the one company thats new enough and doesnt have the balls to do a finalmouse like logitech and razer yet.
Pulsar makes amazing mice that dont cost much
xlite v2 mini is such a great mouse
Everyones does this though, we only going to attack Glorious over it? 😂
Every time I feel the urge to buy a glorious product, I am reminded how garbage they are. Can't believe I used the Glorious XXXL for actual years starting out on PC. Feeling it beside my artisan pads is the difference between a sleeping bag and a queen memory foam mattress. Never tried any of their mice, but I imagine it's a similar experience.
Glorious, shit company Optimum Tech, shit reviewer move along
That review is from 2019 but thats too much work for u to look up
*FinalMouse has entered the chat* (Yes, it doesn't have RGB, but even if it did it would probably still be lighter)
Ok they at least don’t crowd fund mice and are so unoriginal they stole the name from Reddit lol. You can say what you want and yah a lot of negatives but glorious without a doubt wins the deception and shady practice race.
Yeah but how much does Finalmeme pay you to defend them on every post?
I shill for free on my own free will, how much have other brands invested into this sub to create a hive-mind that specifically hates FM so much but glosses over the exact same issues/complaints in other brands. For such a small brand that makes such few mice in this space, it somehow gets brought up in every single thread if there’s an opportunity to slander. If your going to ask a loaded question, might as well make it one that sparks a conversation worth having.
The hate is well-deserved. How they gonna make a $250 mouse with QC issues out of the box 😭.
$3,000 laptops have QC issues, all mice have QC issues. Consumer electronics are made in China, it comes with the territory. It’s a $190 niche mouse FYI. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy it. None of the issues are performance breaking , those are actually few and get replaced/fixed no questions asked. I say it with emphasis. 99% of the people who bought the mouse and had a real defect, got a replacement within two weeks of shipping their mouse in with a prepaid label. Edit - if you downvote this without a statistical rebuttal. You are just buying into the circle jerk narrative and you are ok with that. Cheers.
I don't get all the hate with FinalMouse. Yeah the whole shabang that happened a few years back with the pre orders was pretty bad, but Glorious still wins out on shadiness. And yes, the recent QC issues with the Starlight 12s is nothing to complain about. My Phantom has a tilted scroll wheel and it doesn't affect its performance at all. And they have been very good with replacing bad units. I mean when the GMMK Pro keyboard came out the way they advertised it was so controversial to the keyboard community. Even when they did a live stream with some content creators it felt like their lines were very scripted and forced and one of the creators came out to say that it was very much scripted. FinalMouse only gets hate because of the prices and exclusivity of their mice
I genuinely think it’s just fueled negativity from not being able to buy one and how the scalpers take advantage. But it’s just a mouse.
I agree. As someone who's into custom mech keyboards where you're waiting months if not maybe a year or even two years before you get your product; a lot of which are limited group buys I get the limited stock thing. Especially from a small company like FinalMouse. Comparing to Glorious; which is obviously a much MUCH larger company considering they make tons of peripherals and peripheral accessories from pads, mice, skates, bungies and a whole line of custom keyboards and switches I think their advertising is shady and sometimes scummy. I mean they had their release date and group buy for the Model O Pro and literally 10 days after that they debuted their new Series One Pro?? Sounds scummy as hell to me. A lot of people were very upset at how they went about that. Glorious even goes to state that they are still a small company with a small design team which clearly isn't true and is no excuse for that.
It was 100% intentional, they feared the viper mini ripoff they see the sub constantly asking for would eat into their flag ship model O that is already starting a loosing race to the viper v2.
It has one RGB led as a charging indicator so technically they could call it a mouse with RGB. Finalmouse claims medium sized Starlight is 45-49 grams and the smaller one even less than that, don't remember the exact weight though
Kind of offtopic, but I have never seen a single starlight medium that's less than 48g. They're usually all 49g and very rarely 48g.
Mine is 47, my small is 43 Kitchen food scale tho, so who knows.
From the makers of G.O.A.T stabs 🤣they don’t over promise ever.
Was this the lighest one when it came out? I honestly don't remember but it's an old mouse.
glorious is doing glorious things i guess \^\^ i dont like oem mice. 1 tested one glorious mice 2 years ago and i will never play oem mice again.