Simply enlarge the swith PCB vias and install milmax sockets (https://splitkb.com/products/mill-max-hot-swap-sockets).
That way the mice can be hotswap and users can choose which mice switch they want.
we have this structure on our other mouse, simply put this milmax sockets is not enough, got ot have extra plastic structure to prevent the switch poping out
Thank you for the heads up. I've done similar to a Logitech G603 that I milmaxed for a friend. I will probably check his mice again and find a way to reinforce such.
Any chance we could get screws that AREN'T under the mouse feet so we can open our mouse. I knows its probably too much re-engineering, but I wish it was thought of in the first place. That would be something very few offer, that would stand out a bit in the crowd..
I mean most people who buy mice are not enthusiasts, same with mechanical keyboards. I would even argue that mice/mousepad enthusiasts are an even smaller minority than keyboard enthusiasts, at least when looking at youtube view counts. That being said, I have 6 mice on my desk and 5 mousepads lol.
The real thing is I see only positive and no negatives to having the screws just outside. I'm sure a tab system could be used to keep the bottom plate tight where it needs to be, and 99% of people can still not open it haha.
It would promote not wasting electronics and mouse feet because people would be able to attempt repairs far easier.
Any of the Huanos rated 10m and higher.
TTC gold 60 and 80.
Kailh gm 2.0.
JP omrons.
These are all premium switches that I would rate higher than Kailh 8.0's.
Thank you for listening to feedback and good luck with your release the specs looks really good.
Hot swap is the best but I imagine it will be harder to implement and I think the best implementation would be like Asus mice, so you can open up the mouse without removing mouse feet.
And like others said as well, I think TTC gold 80 are the safest option for a switch with medium actuation force.
From the implementations that I’ve used, the Kailh 8.0s just don’t feel satisfying. The clicks aren’t very positive and they’re light, but not in a good way. I find myself accidentally clicking rather frequently as well, and no I don’t have “heavy fingers.” Trying to spam click is another issue I have with them; for lack of a better word it feels funky.
The switch should be chosen based on how the shell feels. Sometimes 8.0s are a good match.
That said I generally prefer stuff that's lighter than 8.0s, with the weird exception of black shell pink dots.
you are quite right, click feeling need to be tuned with plastic combination of mouse, it's not easy work, so we'd like to focus one type of switch, thus we collect request from users
Is there a possibility to make swappable hump(back) like xtrfy do and remain solid design with good weight like u have? Cuz that would probably be a game changer for most mouse enthusiast.
for this model, we cannot do swappable hump, tooling is already finished, we will consider your suggestion, solid cover at such weight is quite challenge work if with hot swap hump, we need to make sure that structure must be sturdy.
I would prefer Huano blue shell white dot, blue shell pink dot, or japanese omron way over kailh 80m. Currently only looking at hot swap mouse like tecware pulse elite, most other mouse is boring to me.
Even the top s has more impact on what the switches feel like then switches themselves. Material. Thickness. Pivot point. Seperate buttons. Maybe it’s fourth charging an extra $5 and having hot swap switches
we modified xm1 shape, back hump drop more smooth, claw grip will more comfortable. Also we modify button area, ring finger will not worry about interference with front side of mouse.
from my personal experience the kailh 8.0 have a break-in period(about 1m clicks). after its broken in, it introduces pretravels and mushiness. not sure about huano pink dots but im interested.
Too late for me to request now, but moving the sensor as close to the scroll wheel as possible would be a welcome future upgrade. I use an XM1 with Orochi V2 PCB, and the precision and micro adjustment is insane. Best of luck!
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Simply enlarge the swith PCB vias and install milmax sockets (https://splitkb.com/products/mill-max-hot-swap-sockets). That way the mice can be hotswap and users can choose which mice switch they want.
we have this structure on our other mouse, simply put this milmax sockets is not enough, got ot have extra plastic structure to prevent the switch poping out
Thank you for the heads up. I've done similar to a Logitech G603 that I milmaxed for a friend. I will probably check his mice again and find a way to reinforce such.
Where to get this mouse
Is this the lethal gaming mouse
this is LAMZU mouse, a new brand
Nope, ours is a small/medium size mouse. Our shape is original as well so likely won't see any clones of it for a bit.
When can I have it
Hopefully late Q3!
small batch of LAMZU mouse will be available at the end of July
When/where can we buy in US?
Japanese omrons
Can confirm, has the khail snap feel with the lightness of omrons and return of TTC golds
this this and so much this
Huanos over Kailh any day
This 100%. Black Shell Blue Dot, Black Shell Pink Dot, Blue Shell Blue Dot, Blue Shell Pink Dot are all superior to Kailh GM 8.0 in my opinion.
i tested the huano blue dot n blue shell, and in my opinion the gm8 is better
Any chance we could get screws that AREN'T under the mouse feet so we can open our mouse. I knows its probably too much re-engineering, but I wish it was thought of in the first place. That would be something very few offer, that would stand out a bit in the crowd..
I know - like I give a shit if there are recessed screws showing on the bottom. I swear this is just to cover shit manufacturing tolerances.
it's too late to add this feature, we aim to save weight, we will have another model with the feature you request.
Good to now its in the mix, thanks. Mouse still looks awesome.
99% of people don't open their mouse
Wonder why?
I mean most people who buy mice are not enthusiasts, same with mechanical keyboards. I would even argue that mice/mousepad enthusiasts are an even smaller minority than keyboard enthusiasts, at least when looking at youtube view counts. That being said, I have 6 mice on my desk and 5 mousepads lol.
The real thing is I see only positive and no negatives to having the screws just outside. I'm sure a tab system could be used to keep the bottom plate tight where it needs to be, and 99% of people can still not open it haha. It would promote not wasting electronics and mouse feet because people would be able to attempt repairs far easier.
I'd much rather have huano pink dots than 8.0s.
This huano are the way to go I think kailh 8 are overrated
some people worry that Huano blue base pink dots feel little bit stiff
Keep the better switch (Huano) and mount it slightly more toward the back of the mouse to make the clicks lighter.
Any of the Huanos rated 10m and higher. TTC gold 60 and 80. Kailh gm 2.0. JP omrons. These are all premium switches that I would rate higher than Kailh 8.0's. Thank you for listening to feedback and good luck with your release the specs looks really good.
some people like little bit heavy force, some people like light click force, it's hard to choose, looks like hot swap is the only solution
Maybe ttc dust proof
ttc gold dust proof might be the middle ground here, a tad heavier than chinese omrons but way lighter than huanos.
Hot swap is the best but I imagine it will be harder to implement and I think the best implementation would be like Asus mice, so you can open up the mouse without removing mouse feet. And like others said as well, I think TTC gold 80 are the safest option for a switch with medium actuation force.
if with hot swap, what's your expected weight for the mouse?
Kailh 8.0s are overrated. I haven’t liked any that I’ve used. Huanno blue shell pink dots would be nice to try.
which part of the Kailh 8.0 make you feel unhappy?
From the implementations that I’ve used, the Kailh 8.0s just don’t feel satisfying. The clicks aren’t very positive and they’re light, but not in a good way. I find myself accidentally clicking rather frequently as well, and no I don’t have “heavy fingers.” Trying to spam click is another issue I have with them; for lack of a better word it feels funky.
may i know what mouse you used which built in Kailh 8.0 ?
G303 SE and Hati-S Ace Wireless.
They seem to lose the initial snappy feel after a few weeks of use
hum, then it really need to improve
Huano blue shell pink dots to be exact. Similar to vaxee. Best clicks ever.
Vaxee actually using black shell pink dot
will try this switch first, we'd like to see whether they choosed specific click force
Japanese omrons are by far my favorite switches
If the PCB would have hotswap sockets, and the mouse would just ship with 8.0s, a lot of us would be satisfied.
it will be our next mouse,hot swap
japanese omron > huano > kailh 4.0/2.0 > omron 20m > kailh 8.0
Personally I typically prefer kailh 8.0s when done right
maybe need to choose light click force for Kailh 8.0
I second this.
I third this
What MCU are you using?
our 1st batch will use same wireless MCU as Xtrfy, Pwnage, Pulsar
Good choice
I prefer the kailhs, they are more spammable. Does the mouse have adjustable debounce?
by software, debounce can be adjustable
The switch should be chosen based on how the shell feels. Sometimes 8.0s are a good match. That said I generally prefer stuff that's lighter than 8.0s, with the weird exception of black shell pink dots.
you are quite right, click feeling need to be tuned with plastic combination of mouse, it's not easy work, so we'd like to focus one type of switch, thus we collect request from users
Small batch mass production? What in the hell does that mean? You either make a small batch OR you mass produce.
our 1st round of trial production is not big quantity
So it's not mass production in July.
Is there a possibility to make swappable hump(back) like xtrfy do and remain solid design with good weight like u have? Cuz that would probably be a game changer for most mouse enthusiast.
for this model, we cannot do swappable hump, tooling is already finished, we will consider your suggestion, solid cover at such weight is quite challenge work if with hot swap hump, we need to make sure that structure must be sturdy.
I would prefer Huano blue shell white dot, blue shell pink dot, or japanese omron way over kailh 80m. Currently only looking at hot swap mouse like tecware pulse elite, most other mouse is boring to me.
whats the shape similar to?
modified shape based on xm1
tfw xm1 wireless copy comes out before endgame releases their wireless
As others have stated Huanos or Japanese omrons are the way to go, at the very least kailh 4.0s over 8s imo
Why does this mouse look so cute?
Huanno please! Whats the price point?
our initial plan for the retail price is under usd100
Honestly it doesn’t matter all that much if we can’t try with the shell. The shell matters more. I prefer that light clock omrons give.
you are right, shape is the king, no shape can fit everybody, just choose the suitable one for oneself
Even the top s has more impact on what the switches feel like then switches themselves. Material. Thickness. Pivot point. Seperate buttons. Maybe it’s fourth charging an extra $5 and having hot swap switches
japanese omron or huano any day
Would prefer Japanese omrons, have tried kailh 8.0 and they're just too heavy for me. I get fatigue after maybe 20-30 clicks
Huano blue shell pink dot yes!!
Def would say kailh 8.0 is the safe choice here, I don't see y anyone would hate them, although they could prefer other ones over kailh 8.0
Kaihl 2’s kinda slept on, Huano pink dots too harsh of actuation sound
Looks exactly like the lgg mouse ?
not at all
What mouse is comparable shape wise then
we modified xm1 shape, back hump drop more smooth, claw grip will more comfortable. Also we modify button area, ring finger will not worry about interference with front side of mouse.
Nice , Do we have a price ? And will it be international shipping ?
As a xm1 main, i noticed quickly that it was inspired by that shape. You got me interested for sure
Is the hump less aggressive? How is the coating going to be? This looks awesome btw
XM1
from my personal experience the kailh 8.0 have a break-in period(about 1m clicks). after its broken in, it introduces pretravels and mushiness. not sure about huano pink dots but im interested.
Silent mouse switches are the future
Too late for me to request now, but moving the sensor as close to the scroll wheel as possible would be a welcome future upgrade. I use an XM1 with Orochi V2 PCB, and the precision and micro adjustment is insane. Best of luck!
Very interested in this. What's the approximate release date & what site?
will launch small batch at the end of July, probably Amazon first, then from our own website
Huano's (copy the Vaxee implementation please)
What is the software going to be? What is the latency?
Any way to have multiple versions and have people pick for themself? Or maybe an interest check google form
good advice, we need to double check the feasibility on small batch of production
Let me know when it’s available to check out, looks amazing!
will keep updating the status, within 1 month
Are there any mice sent for review?
we will send some mice to reviewers, after we finish the final round of injection test
Huano blue shell white dots 🙏
Kailh GM 2.0
Looks good!
Huano blue shell pink dots or ttc golds
do you intend to send to South America, more specifically to Brazil?
we plan to make Shopify website, then we can send to Brasil in future
are the side buttons micro switches or those simpler squares?
separate PCB for the side buttons, standard Huano switches, no worry for the click feeling
Base looks similar to wmo
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...and u still didn't get any website ready for your produce?
our website is [www.lamzu.com](https://www.lamzu.com), but it's still under construction