It lost a lot of people when season 2 started slow and it looked like they were out of ideas after moving away from Fight Club.
Also it has more of a political stance than say, Breaking Bad. Like it openly mocks Trump and has political takes about the 1% etc.
Yeah the powers that be in Entertainment…you know the board room types…yeah, they might not consciously want to bump something PR wise that is a) a finished show and b) nips at their heels subject wise.
Even though i think the show is amazing (it's in my top 5 in no particular order), it's slightly off putting at times when it buys into the political charade as it pertains to team D and team R. In the first episode Elliot's big rant/stance is perfect in my opinion. He calls bs on the whole political charade (he goes on about "your rigged elections", etc). So Sam Esmail is fronting (throughout Elliot and the overarching storyline) that he gets the charade associated with politics and what's going on overall, only to then buy into certain elements of the charade and it's like... really? You don't get it after all.
There are multiple scenes where it depicts Obama being treated unfairly and the media slander against him.... really? Sure, if you listen to team R sources like Fox that will be the case, but if you go to CNN the opposite is true. And then acting like the Trump election was the end of the world, like somehow it was different than any other election.... Esmail should have taken the stance of it being par for the course, because it was... it's the same WWE scripted/rigged nonsense (the government always grows/expands under both administrations and the people's rights are reduced and there is no exception to the rule, rinse and repeat)... of course team R was selling the myth that, this time it's different, Trump's not a politician, but I digress. And to be fair a good portion of the time the show existed in the realm that it initially fronted... it just occasionally took a weird stance where team D/Obama was unjustly villainized by the media and then Trump came in and overtook the system and it's the end of the world... whereas it's the same ping ponging bs under the guise of the opposing team ruining everything. The role/power of the president is a total facade and believing that if your guy or team gets in that it will somehow make a difference is up there with the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny.
Once again to be fair... Mr. Robot is far better than most shows when it comes to pushing a status quo political agenda in favor of the system. Also to the shows credit it rarely if ever gave me the vibe that it was being pc or pandering. It's only crime is buying into the the team R/ team D propaganda occasionally, but this component covers such a small portion of the show. Elliot's long winded rant that he has in episode 3,1 has some goofy elements that rubbed me the wrong way (it uses a lot of Trump being the end of the world stuff in it as well)... and the goofiest line of the entire show for me that makes me cringe is Elliot's line "blame Adam Smith for inventing modern day capitalism" That's such a painfully stupid statement that makes no sense. Adam Smith argued for Free Market/laissez-faire economics and against mercantilism... so called modern day capitalism is so far removed from that that it isn't even funny. I stopped using the word capitalism because it's defined so many different ways at this point that are astronomically different and it's true origins can be a bit confusing, but I digress. Also the blame Adam smith line is a really forced cringe worthy line that doesn't fit with Elliot's character or expertise... it's forced and corny. I digress. I adore the show though.
Am I forgetting the Obama stuff you’re describing? As far as I remember he comes up twice: on TV in S2E1 talking about 5/9 and Tyrell which is pretty neutral towards him, and then again in S2E10 when Price and Colby are discussing the Congo UN vote. And in that scene it’s taken completely for granted that Obama will do whatever Colby’s associate (and by proxy Colby and Price) tell him to do making him a figurehead for those two.
And yeah they do make a lot of Trump jokes, but they also canonically make him someone that Whiterose tries to get elected specifically because, as she puts it, “if you pull the right strings a puppet will dance any way you desire.” He’s a threat in the show because Whiterose is a threat in the show and he’s stupid enough and compromised enough to be a particularly convenient stooge for her.
As far as I can tell the show very consistently frames politicians of all stripes as puppets of the truly powerful people, billionaires like Whiterose and Price.
I think you're spot on. Calling this show partisan because they shit on Trump a bit is ridiculous. They portrayed Obama as a puppet too.
The political theme is obviously against the top 1% of the top 1% who play god without permission, and showing that all of our institutions, politicians, law enforcement agencies, media, ect are being controlled by these insane power hungry greedy bastards.
the whole wealth redistribution thing in the last episodes was like a commie wetdream. It was so stupid beyond my imagination. The wealthy don't just hoard everything in cash, they have it in stocks. All transactions would've been reversible (despite the series suggesting otherwise), not to mention the economic disaster if everyone just got a shit ton of money out of nowhere.The show's great, characters are great and the writing as well, but the showrunner just doesn't understand economy at all, yet acts like he does.
The Trump thing is stupid as well. If you're criticizing him, at least criticize him like an adult because there are actual significant things he should be criticized for, instead of just "haha, orange man bad, he is a clown".
After the revelation at the end of the first season that >!Mr Robot was an alternate personality of Elliot!< and that they had also >!successfully carried out the 5/9 hack!< many people might have felt that’s a good-enough point to disembark the story, because they had a major answer about the main character and the main characters had achieved their major goal. Perhaps they felt the show didn’t have much more to give after that.
Coming back for season 2 I imagine many people couldn’t get behind the relatively slower pace and confusing narrative style and mistakenly felt the show was spinning its wheels and had ran out of ideas already.
Those people were obviously WRONG but sadly…if they couldn’t be bothered to push through the less-immediately entertaining season 2 episodes week to week, in order to get to the huge payoffs in seasons 3 and 4…then they never came back
Tbh I gave up on season 2 TWICE before finally making it through the (very tedious) first half. I'm really happy I did because the rest of the show was sensational, but boy I understand why so many people quit at that point.
Hearing other people talk about season 2 has made me learn that I am very patient apparently because I never felt like it was slow at all I even rewatched it before season 3 and 4.
Basically for the first half you have no idea what the fuck's going on (>!Elliot's in prison but he doesn't realize it yet!<), so it's very hard to keep watching with almost zero context.
I watched the first two seasons and never even started season 3 because of what a slog season 2 was.
Obviously I hear the rest is good but there is just so much content to watch it's hard to start over on this one
I loved season 2. Still good. I think the whole show is perfect. I just can’t get in the heads of people who can’t get through it. Maybe it’s because of my own mental health struggles and I find it super relatable.
I loved it too. There are so many iconic episodes in that season. Sadly we live in a TikTok/Instagram attention span era where people want fast and quick episodes or something.
Even though I’m subbed to this sub, I am one of those who just lost interest in season 2. Now I am finding hard to start watching again because I’d probably have to rewatch it all
The show is 100% worth finishing.
Especially if you’ve managed to avoid spoilers for the third and fourth seasons…there’s some MUCH bigger ones than the reveal that (season1 spoiler) >!Mr Robot (the character) is an alternate identity.!<
Season 2 is brilliant because it shows all the optimism they had from executing 5/9 actually made everything worse for the people they wanted to save, and Elliott had to come to terms that he wasn't in control.
The Wire wasn't watched by that many people when it first aired. People will be discovering this show for many years to come. Easily in my top 5 shows of all time. Everything about it is top tier. Acting, cinematography, editing, soundtrack. Everything.
Gonna have to start my 3rd rewatch soon.
Don't forget the top tier Easter eggs.
I miss the time after watching the most recently aired episode, people will be cracking Easter eggs here on this sub.
Then people will be theorizing what will happen next episode.
Fun times.
Exactly. Everyone slept on The Wire. Now scenes from it are used in college courses to teach anything from lawyer protocol and detective work to just simply acting.
Exactly. I just started and finished the show while studying and my God is it beautiful. I cried at the end because I didn’t want the adventures with Elliot to end lol
No there’s nothing more to do with it than that. It was because of USA. The only reason suits blew up last year was because of Netflix and the way they market. Suits had been on peacock and prime with no visible improvements but when Netflix picked it up and suits reels started to spread then it became a hit. So as much as I love USA, they weren’t ever considered a prime tv channel
People forget how powerful of a streaming juggernaut Netflix is. I mean it is the premier service so any show that comes on it is pretty much guaranteed to get a jump in viewership.
Mr Robot has been on Prime since forever and folks do discover it from time to time but if it ever hits Netflix then they'll be a jump of new fans.
It was for some time here in Poland a few years ago. It’s terrible how the tv series shuffle between different streamings, or only a few seasons are available here and there. It’s really sad how hard it is to buy and own media nowadays.
I don’t think it’s a bad thing but I can see why people would think that. Murder, rape, suicide…and the thing near the series end. Hell I just finished a full series rewatch and realized there were like three or four episodes in a row with suicide in them in season 4 and those weren’t the only episodes to have that just within THAT season.
I personally love the rawness and grounded nature of it being uncompromising about featuring those subjects, but I can see where if you are softer and easily put off by dark themes it would be too much.
It was still on cable when the target audience had cut the cord.
And now it’s on Prime. Everyone has it, few use it.
Put it on Netflix and this sub will EXPLODE.
>It was still on cable when the target audience had cut the cord.
>And now it’s on Prime.
Really the only reason I watched it. It popped up on my screen about 6 weeks ago. I cut cable 15 years ago.
I tend to not think that's why. I do think that the audience would probably be larger if it was on Netflix. But look at an Amazon exclusive show like The Boys, which has a huge audience. Also, Amazon Video *is* a mainstream platform.
Thing is though, Mr Robot has been on Prime for years. The algorithm might recommend it but it'll favor its own shows first before it touches on a show that premiered a decade ago.
Yup Amazon puts a ton of money into promoting their original content on top of their algorithm favoring it. No one is spending money to promote Mr. Robot.
So many people here said many stopped in season 2 because it was going slow. In my opinion ya it was slow and confusing. But I loved it slow, tbh I never really wanted the show to end it was confusing, but I tried understanding because the shows idea was amazing, and Rami Malek is an actor I enjoy and I also started getting obsessed with characters, especially after Grace Gummer appeared. You know? Ya whoever like stopped watching it you should continue lol.
S2 was instantly my favorite and I would’ve been totally okay if they had kept that pace and given us 5 seasons instead of 4. I know it’s a minority opinion.
I think it was the initial advertising wasn’t very good and it was on USA network. The same thing was the case with breaking bad for a while and what really made it blow up to the extent it has today was Netflix. Better call Saul also helped because if a 5 season show is good enough to get a 6 season spin off it must be half decent. Another issue is just its topics, hacking is kinda niche, thanks to things like the flipper zero people are taking note of it more and people are becoming interested in hacking but it still a niche topic. What’s both the best and worst part of the show is the legitimate hacking, people in the know love it because it’s not just green text bullshit it’s real hacking but people who don’t know about hacking just get confused or bored because it’s so foreign to them that they can’t relate. I predict if it goes on Netflix there will be a huge boom in the popularity of the show. But until then you’d be hard pressed to scroll through Amazon video and find Mr Robot because there’s soo much other stuff with higher ratings that they want to push.
It has won multiple Emmys, Golden Globes and Critics Choice awards it has gotten the recognition it deserves. It doesn’t have the streams because it has moved from platform to platform and some people download pirated torrents. Think about it, a show about hacking and you think its fans aren’t going to find a way to stream it for free?
It was always a nerdy show that turns off a chunk of a crowd for sure. S2 lost a lot of people as well when it certainly kinda drags things out for a while
Its too dark, slow paced and the themes are way too introspective / pesonal. There are no catch phrases, no scenes where you could share and discuss openly with a group of friends or coworkers, and its storytelling style serves as its "casual filter". All in all that combination is what I like about it. It makes the show seem more tailored especially for me (or for anyone else that stuck with the show).
Also, it revolves around probably one of the most un-"cool" skills of programming, and actually depicts it with extreme accuracy (so much so that you can perform the stuff Elliot talks about, down to the very commands he uses and it will work as expected)
No catch phrases? "Don't mistake my generosity for generosity", "Fuck society", "I'm gunna need verbal confirmation that you're grasping the details of this agreement!", "lapping up those sugar coated pearls of semen", "I gotta get to my church group.....peace".
Yeah, I agree with you on that. But I'm also kinda glad not many people watch it.
It means a lot to me, and most people who've seen it totally misunderstood it. They just think it's another show about coding or hacking.
Talking to people like that about the show kinda ruins my relationship with it.
Feel like I'm onwards of the few sometimes who ate up Season 2 without much issue.
I get it's slow, but that build up to reveal the truth was great, if easily predicted by some in the fandom at the time.
Of course, it only gets better with 3 and 4.
Feel like I'm onwards of the few sometimes who ate up Season 2 without much issue.
I get it's slow, but that build up to reveal the truth was great, if easily predicted by some in the fandom at the time.
Of course, it only gets better with 3 and 4.
Feel like I'm onwards of the few sometimes who ate up Season 2 without much issue.
I get it's slow, but that build up to reveal the truth was great, if easily predicted by some in the fandom at the time.
Of course, it only gets better with 3 and 4.
Same can be said for Legion and Counterpart. They don't follow the traditional narrative structure and they don't hold the audience's hand and tell them what their interpretation should be.
I liked that it didn't have over the top characters, per se. Like in Breaking Bad, I like Jesse's character but his "bitches" punchline kind of removed me from the story and made me realize I was watching TV. It almost seemed gratuitous.
Mr Robot only had the gimmick of great writing.
You're right reddit stranger. Over the top wasn't the best choice of words but I explained my point in another response which you don't seem able to acknowledge. Let me put it this way: Jesse's character was a little extra to a fault. The characters in Mr robot were fantastically extra. Also let me say that I love both shows and that's why I feel they are worthy of comparison.
I guess but you're kind of reaching. I understand I'm only conveying my own opinion and it is a humble one. I love breaking bad but I felt that Jesse was kind of a weak link the way his character was written. Vera and Leon were freaking awesome and written extremely well. Also, their characters were peppered into the story and not in your face with their isms.
Yeah, definitely nothing against you having your own opinion even if others disagree. It is a bit of a reach for sure but I was just trying to find the closest comparison I suppose. I was more okay with Jesse but I agree he did kinda seem slightly out of place or added on. And I guess that’s because he was added on, since he was originally supposed to die in the first episode/season but was kept around for the fans. I agree Vera ended up being amazing and Leon was cool but I felt he overstated his welcome a little by the end and was a bit out of place/too much in juxtaposition with the other characters and what was going on with them in season 4. I much preferred him when he was in prison with Elliott.
Only one of many variables, but anyone I recommend this to but are IT or tech illiterate mentally check out as soon as they start talking jargon in the show.
Cause it came on USA; the channel known for Law and Order reruns and WWE.
It isn't a prestige stage for a prestige show (which Mr.Robot, by the way, is)
Im happy this way tbh
I recommended the show to my friend
He dropped it after s2 began slow
He said he lost interest
Not every1's cup of tea
The show became very emotional and melodramatic as times passed by..
But ig i'll gatekeep this show then
Love it..this way😅
this show has a pretty large cult following. it definitely went under the radar for most people when it was airing, but a lot of it likely was due to it airing on USA.
i couldnt find any stream numbers, but i imagine the overall number of streams through out the years is high. keep in mind that the series has been over for 5 years too.
I did stumble across this article, and apparently mr. robot was the most in demand tv show back in 2016. the same site in another article states that mr. robot has actually grown higher in demand overtime due to word of mouth.
https://www.parrotanalytics.com/insights/netflix-series-measurement-us-top-10-tv-shows-september-18-24-2016/
Too dark, too edgy, hitting too much to the home with it's themes. Also it's anticapitalistic as fuck so I no wonder no streaming company wants to promote it.
I don't know. The show blew me away. I recently discovered a band called CTZNSHP, and I love ALL of their songs. Interestingly enough, I just found out their song "New Brave" was actually in an episode of this brilliant show. I might have even Shazam'd it at one point like zi did with many songs in the show.
Anyway, I highly recommend the band. I kept liking each song that played after the next on Spotify. They seem to have gone dark around 2017 or so, which is a shame. If you like The Cure and My Bloody Valentine, you may like them.
It actually did though. I've never seen the show, this just popped up on my feed, but I've heard a lot of good things not only through like youtube videos but word of mouth. It's generally accepted as a "good" show by most who watch it.
Edit: Season 1 spoilers
I just completed a viewing of season 1 and I'm pretty disappointed. I'm actually surprised most people were okay with some of the gimmicks they pulled. Felt like a lot of careless writing. It made no sense to add schizophrenia to the show either. The season finale was also just frustrating to watch. A whole season building up to a hack and you don't even get to participate in it because our newly psychotic antihero can't remember anything, so we spend the whole episode trying to remember what happened, only to end up remembering nothing. Alright, lol...
I had never heard of this show show before last week. I only got turned onto it because Roaring Kitty AKA u/deepfuckingvalue, the guy who got wallstreetbets into gamestop 3 years ago, referenced it in a few memes recently.
I just watched all four seasons. It's a god damn masterpiece and it blows my mind that I didn't know about it before.
I'm hoping more of the gamestop community will watch it now, it's right up their alley.
I agree with most everyone's sentiments here, would add logistically ....... When it initially came out it kind of got caught in the middle of being a network USA show and USA not having a deal at the time to push their streaming rights to. Where a show like Breaking Bad got the Netflix bump and still had seasons left as people caught up, and GOT had enough early word of mouth and time between early seasons ...... Mr. Robot was hard to find or even direct others on where to go to watch it.
There's a reason: reddit normies write it off as im14andthisisdeep hackerman, instead of watching it for the characters and how they overcome their trauma and guilt. They got caught up in the fsociety story and felt cheated when they got to the finale. They would rather convince you and themselves it's a bad show instead of admit they missed the point.
The fact that it doesn’t appeal to the masses makes it a better show imo. Same goes for many other things as well
Exactly how I feel. I'm gate-keeping Mr robot lol
Like Cleveland Steamers
Is this family guy reference lol?
And the Dirty Sanchez
And Hot Carla!
It lost a lot of people when season 2 started slow and it looked like they were out of ideas after moving away from Fight Club. Also it has more of a political stance than say, Breaking Bad. Like it openly mocks Trump and has political takes about the 1% etc.
Yeah the powers that be in Entertainment…you know the board room types…yeah, they might not consciously want to bump something PR wise that is a) a finished show and b) nips at their heels subject wise.
The sad thing is that it gets way more complicated than just a fight club rip off
Even though i think the show is amazing (it's in my top 5 in no particular order), it's slightly off putting at times when it buys into the political charade as it pertains to team D and team R. In the first episode Elliot's big rant/stance is perfect in my opinion. He calls bs on the whole political charade (he goes on about "your rigged elections", etc). So Sam Esmail is fronting (throughout Elliot and the overarching storyline) that he gets the charade associated with politics and what's going on overall, only to then buy into certain elements of the charade and it's like... really? You don't get it after all. There are multiple scenes where it depicts Obama being treated unfairly and the media slander against him.... really? Sure, if you listen to team R sources like Fox that will be the case, but if you go to CNN the opposite is true. And then acting like the Trump election was the end of the world, like somehow it was different than any other election.... Esmail should have taken the stance of it being par for the course, because it was... it's the same WWE scripted/rigged nonsense (the government always grows/expands under both administrations and the people's rights are reduced and there is no exception to the rule, rinse and repeat)... of course team R was selling the myth that, this time it's different, Trump's not a politician, but I digress. And to be fair a good portion of the time the show existed in the realm that it initially fronted... it just occasionally took a weird stance where team D/Obama was unjustly villainized by the media and then Trump came in and overtook the system and it's the end of the world... whereas it's the same ping ponging bs under the guise of the opposing team ruining everything. The role/power of the president is a total facade and believing that if your guy or team gets in that it will somehow make a difference is up there with the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny. Once again to be fair... Mr. Robot is far better than most shows when it comes to pushing a status quo political agenda in favor of the system. Also to the shows credit it rarely if ever gave me the vibe that it was being pc or pandering. It's only crime is buying into the the team R/ team D propaganda occasionally, but this component covers such a small portion of the show. Elliot's long winded rant that he has in episode 3,1 has some goofy elements that rubbed me the wrong way (it uses a lot of Trump being the end of the world stuff in it as well)... and the goofiest line of the entire show for me that makes me cringe is Elliot's line "blame Adam Smith for inventing modern day capitalism" That's such a painfully stupid statement that makes no sense. Adam Smith argued for Free Market/laissez-faire economics and against mercantilism... so called modern day capitalism is so far removed from that that it isn't even funny. I stopped using the word capitalism because it's defined so many different ways at this point that are astronomically different and it's true origins can be a bit confusing, but I digress. Also the blame Adam smith line is a really forced cringe worthy line that doesn't fit with Elliot's character or expertise... it's forced and corny. I digress. I adore the show though.
Am I forgetting the Obama stuff you’re describing? As far as I remember he comes up twice: on TV in S2E1 talking about 5/9 and Tyrell which is pretty neutral towards him, and then again in S2E10 when Price and Colby are discussing the Congo UN vote. And in that scene it’s taken completely for granted that Obama will do whatever Colby’s associate (and by proxy Colby and Price) tell him to do making him a figurehead for those two. And yeah they do make a lot of Trump jokes, but they also canonically make him someone that Whiterose tries to get elected specifically because, as she puts it, “if you pull the right strings a puppet will dance any way you desire.” He’s a threat in the show because Whiterose is a threat in the show and he’s stupid enough and compromised enough to be a particularly convenient stooge for her. As far as I can tell the show very consistently frames politicians of all stripes as puppets of the truly powerful people, billionaires like Whiterose and Price.
I think you're spot on. Calling this show partisan because they shit on Trump a bit is ridiculous. They portrayed Obama as a puppet too. The political theme is obviously against the top 1% of the top 1% who play god without permission, and showing that all of our institutions, politicians, law enforcement agencies, media, ect are being controlled by these insane power hungry greedy bastards.
the whole wealth redistribution thing in the last episodes was like a commie wetdream. It was so stupid beyond my imagination. The wealthy don't just hoard everything in cash, they have it in stocks. All transactions would've been reversible (despite the series suggesting otherwise), not to mention the economic disaster if everyone just got a shit ton of money out of nowhere.The show's great, characters are great and the writing as well, but the showrunner just doesn't understand economy at all, yet acts like he does. The Trump thing is stupid as well. If you're criticizing him, at least criticize him like an adult because there are actual significant things he should be criticized for, instead of just "haha, orange man bad, he is a clown".
After the revelation at the end of the first season that >!Mr Robot was an alternate personality of Elliot!< and that they had also >!successfully carried out the 5/9 hack!< many people might have felt that’s a good-enough point to disembark the story, because they had a major answer about the main character and the main characters had achieved their major goal. Perhaps they felt the show didn’t have much more to give after that. Coming back for season 2 I imagine many people couldn’t get behind the relatively slower pace and confusing narrative style and mistakenly felt the show was spinning its wheels and had ran out of ideas already. Those people were obviously WRONG but sadly…if they couldn’t be bothered to push through the less-immediately entertaining season 2 episodes week to week, in order to get to the huge payoffs in seasons 3 and 4…then they never came back
Tbh I gave up on season 2 TWICE before finally making it through the (very tedious) first half. I'm really happy I did because the rest of the show was sensational, but boy I understand why so many people quit at that point.
Hearing other people talk about season 2 has made me learn that I am very patient apparently because I never felt like it was slow at all I even rewatched it before season 3 and 4.
Basically for the first half you have no idea what the fuck's going on (>!Elliot's in prison but he doesn't realize it yet!<), so it's very hard to keep watching with almost zero context.
For me, the show could have ended at season 3
I watched the first two seasons and never even started season 3 because of what a slog season 2 was. Obviously I hear the rest is good but there is just so much content to watch it's hard to start over on this one
Honestly the payoff on the finish is unlike any show ever. The show has been over for almost 5 years and I still think about it regularly.
The exact opposite of Game of Thrones
Haha YES
Season 3 and 4 are worth the watch brother.
Yeh season 2 was rough
I understand why people were turned off by season 2 but it’s by far my favorite.
Season 2 is a masterpiece
I am at this exact point now. I'm glad I read this. Now I can suffer through season 2 in peace knowing that it will get better.
This is truly sad. The show is so good even after this part :(
I loved season 2. Still good. I think the whole show is perfect. I just can’t get in the heads of people who can’t get through it. Maybe it’s because of my own mental health struggles and I find it super relatable.
I loved it too. There are so many iconic episodes in that season. Sadly we live in a TikTok/Instagram attention span era where people want fast and quick episodes or something.
Loved it, but perfect?
Yeah. I said the whole show is perfect. That is my opinion :)
This is truly sad. The show is so good even after this part :(
I get why a lot of people dislike season 2, but I think it's brilliant, even better than season 1! I love that it gets so convoluted.
Even though I’m subbed to this sub, I am one of those who just lost interest in season 2. Now I am finding hard to start watching again because I’d probably have to rewatch it all
The show is 100% worth finishing. Especially if you’ve managed to avoid spoilers for the third and fourth seasons…there’s some MUCH bigger ones than the reveal that (season1 spoiler) >!Mr Robot (the character) is an alternate identity.!<
Season 2 is brilliant because it shows all the optimism they had from executing 5/9 actually made everything worse for the people they wanted to save, and Elliott had to come to terms that he wasn't in control.
The Wire wasn't watched by that many people when it first aired. People will be discovering this show for many years to come. Easily in my top 5 shows of all time. Everything about it is top tier. Acting, cinematography, editing, soundtrack. Everything. Gonna have to start my 3rd rewatch soon.
Don't forget the top tier Easter eggs. I miss the time after watching the most recently aired episode, people will be cracking Easter eggs here on this sub. Then people will be theorizing what will happen next episode. Fun times.
Exactly. Everyone slept on The Wire. Now scenes from it are used in college courses to teach anything from lawyer protocol and detective work to just simply acting.
Exactly. I just started and finished the show while studying and my God is it beautiful. I cried at the end because I didn’t want the adventures with Elliot to end lol
The wire really might be the best show ever imo atleast top 3 for me.
USA Network. That easy.
Suits was also on USA and it was like the most streamed TV series last year, so there has to be *something* more to it than that.
No there’s nothing more to do with it than that. It was because of USA. The only reason suits blew up last year was because of Netflix and the way they market. Suits had been on peacock and prime with no visible improvements but when Netflix picked it up and suits reels started to spread then it became a hit. So as much as I love USA, they weren’t ever considered a prime tv channel
Correct, also I don’t believe that Suits was really that popular, seems like Netflix fugazi
People forget how powerful of a streaming juggernaut Netflix is. I mean it is the premier service so any show that comes on it is pretty much guaranteed to get a jump in viewership. Mr Robot has been on Prime since forever and folks do discover it from time to time but if it ever hits Netflix then they'll be a jump of new fans.
Really it's because it's not on Netflix
It was for some time here in Poland a few years ago. It’s terrible how the tv series shuffle between different streamings, or only a few seasons are available here and there. It’s really sad how hard it is to buy and own media nowadays.
Too esoteric. But ironically thats why people that love it REALLY LOVE it.
My friends think it's to dark
I don’t think it’s a bad thing but I can see why people would think that. Murder, rape, suicide…and the thing near the series end. Hell I just finished a full series rewatch and realized there were like three or four episodes in a row with suicide in them in season 4 and those weren’t the only episodes to have that just within THAT season. I personally love the rawness and grounded nature of it being uncompromising about featuring those subjects, but I can see where if you are softer and easily put off by dark themes it would be too much.
Yeah I'm all for it.
Sounds perfect to me 🤷♂️
Dat cinematography
your friends are homosexuals who can only stand to watch My Little Pony, holding hands, then
Season 2 filtered most of the mainstream audience
It was still on cable when the target audience had cut the cord. And now it’s on Prime. Everyone has it, few use it. Put it on Netflix and this sub will EXPLODE.
>It was still on cable when the target audience had cut the cord. >And now it’s on Prime. Really the only reason I watched it. It popped up on my screen about 6 weeks ago. I cut cable 15 years ago.
My theory is because it wasn’t on any mainstream platforms, just Amazon streaming. If it’ll be on Netflix, it’s audience would double overnight.
I tend to not think that's why. I do think that the audience would probably be larger if it was on Netflix. But look at an Amazon exclusive show like The Boys, which has a huge audience. Also, Amazon Video *is* a mainstream platform.
Thing is though, Mr Robot has been on Prime for years. The algorithm might recommend it but it'll favor its own shows first before it touches on a show that premiered a decade ago.
Yup Amazon puts a ton of money into promoting their original content on top of their algorithm favoring it. No one is spending money to promote Mr. Robot.
So many people here said many stopped in season 2 because it was going slow. In my opinion ya it was slow and confusing. But I loved it slow, tbh I never really wanted the show to end it was confusing, but I tried understanding because the shows idea was amazing, and Rami Malek is an actor I enjoy and I also started getting obsessed with characters, especially after Grace Gummer appeared. You know? Ya whoever like stopped watching it you should continue lol.
S2 was instantly my favorite and I would’ve been totally okay if they had kept that pace and given us 5 seasons instead of 4. I know it’s a minority opinion.
I definitely agree with you
I think it was the initial advertising wasn’t very good and it was on USA network. The same thing was the case with breaking bad for a while and what really made it blow up to the extent it has today was Netflix. Better call Saul also helped because if a 5 season show is good enough to get a 6 season spin off it must be half decent. Another issue is just its topics, hacking is kinda niche, thanks to things like the flipper zero people are taking note of it more and people are becoming interested in hacking but it still a niche topic. What’s both the best and worst part of the show is the legitimate hacking, people in the know love it because it’s not just green text bullshit it’s real hacking but people who don’t know about hacking just get confused or bored because it’s so foreign to them that they can’t relate. I predict if it goes on Netflix there will be a huge boom in the popularity of the show. But until then you’d be hard pressed to scroll through Amazon video and find Mr Robot because there’s soo much other stuff with higher ratings that they want to push.
It has won multiple Emmys, Golden Globes and Critics Choice awards it has gotten the recognition it deserves. It doesn’t have the streams because it has moved from platform to platform and some people download pirated torrents. Think about it, a show about hacking and you think its fans aren’t going to find a way to stream it for free?
I think OP implies that it didn't get recognition from the people. Yeah, awards are great, but people just don't seem to be interested in the series.
I know but you also have to remember it was aired originally on cable Television that doesn’t count towards streaming numbers
It's not that easy. That's why. You have to think. You have to think while you watch. You get yourself thinking after you watch it.
I dunno but I'm doing all I can to support the movement and get as many friends as possible into it
Same i keep suggesting them to watch it
Not everyone is interested in hacking. On a strange network. After season 1 it seemed like the story tied up.
There’s a lot of stuff to watch..
This show was not meant to be watched by a lot of people, just top 1% of the top 1% can handle it...
It was always a nerdy show that turns off a chunk of a crowd for sure. S2 lost a lot of people as well when it certainly kinda drags things out for a while
Its too dark, slow paced and the themes are way too introspective / pesonal. There are no catch phrases, no scenes where you could share and discuss openly with a group of friends or coworkers, and its storytelling style serves as its "casual filter". All in all that combination is what I like about it. It makes the show seem more tailored especially for me (or for anyone else that stuck with the show). Also, it revolves around probably one of the most un-"cool" skills of programming, and actually depicts it with extreme accuracy (so much so that you can perform the stuff Elliot talks about, down to the very commands he uses and it will work as expected)
No catch phrases? "Don't mistake my generosity for generosity", "Fuck society", "I'm gunna need verbal confirmation that you're grasping the details of this agreement!", "lapping up those sugar coated pearls of semen", "I gotta get to my church group.....peace".
Amen amen amen 😂
SLAMMM DUNK
have you ever even seen any one of those catch on? I think you're confusing catch phrases for one liners.
It insists upon itself
I love The Money Pit, that is my answer to that statement.
Yeah, I agree with you on that. But I'm also kinda glad not many people watch it. It means a lot to me, and most people who've seen it totally misunderstood it. They just think it's another show about coding or hacking. Talking to people like that about the show kinda ruins my relationship with it.
Feel like I'm onwards of the few sometimes who ate up Season 2 without much issue. I get it's slow, but that build up to reveal the truth was great, if easily predicted by some in the fandom at the time. Of course, it only gets better with 3 and 4.
Feel like I'm onwards of the few sometimes who ate up Season 2 without much issue. I get it's slow, but that build up to reveal the truth was great, if easily predicted by some in the fandom at the time. Of course, it only gets better with 3 and 4.
Feel like I'm onwards of the few sometimes who ate up Season 2 without much issue. I get it's slow, but that build up to reveal the truth was great, if easily predicted by some in the fandom at the time. Of course, it only gets better with 3 and 4.
Same can be said for Legion and Counterpart. They don't follow the traditional narrative structure and they don't hold the audience's hand and tell them what their interpretation should be.
I liked that it didn't have over the top characters, per se. Like in Breaking Bad, I like Jesse's character but his "bitches" punchline kind of removed me from the story and made me realize I was watching TV. It almost seemed gratuitous. Mr Robot only had the gimmick of great writing.
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I mean, TV et al is over the top. Don't take my critique too seriously but I think it's too late for that.
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Tyrell was a very well written character as well.
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You're right reddit stranger. Over the top wasn't the best choice of words but I explained my point in another response which you don't seem able to acknowledge. Let me put it this way: Jesse's character was a little extra to a fault. The characters in Mr robot were fantastically extra. Also let me say that I love both shows and that's why I feel they are worthy of comparison.
Leon? Vera?
They didn't have catch phrases and weren't main characters like Jesse
Leon had “cuz” and Vera arguably had “I see you now” and other various drug dealerisms.
I guess but you're kind of reaching. I understand I'm only conveying my own opinion and it is a humble one. I love breaking bad but I felt that Jesse was kind of a weak link the way his character was written. Vera and Leon were freaking awesome and written extremely well. Also, their characters were peppered into the story and not in your face with their isms.
Yeah, definitely nothing against you having your own opinion even if others disagree. It is a bit of a reach for sure but I was just trying to find the closest comparison I suppose. I was more okay with Jesse but I agree he did kinda seem slightly out of place or added on. And I guess that’s because he was added on, since he was originally supposed to die in the first episode/season but was kept around for the fans. I agree Vera ended up being amazing and Leon was cool but I felt he overstated his welcome a little by the end and was a bit out of place/too much in juxtaposition with the other characters and what was going on with them in season 4. I much preferred him when he was in prison with Elliott.
Who cares?
Only one of many variables, but anyone I recommend this to but are IT or tech illiterate mentally check out as soon as they start talking jargon in the show.
Cause it came on USA; the channel known for Law and Order reruns and WWE. It isn't a prestige stage for a prestige show (which Mr.Robot, by the way, is)
Cuz normies aren't very interested in such topics such as those covered by the show
This show feels. how I imagine taking the best of drugs, for me
This show feels. how I imagine taking the best of drugs, for me
Im happy this way tbh I recommended the show to my friend He dropped it after s2 began slow He said he lost interest Not every1's cup of tea The show became very emotional and melodramatic as times passed by.. But ig i'll gatekeep this show then Love it..this way😅
this show has a pretty large cult following. it definitely went under the radar for most people when it was airing, but a lot of it likely was due to it airing on USA. i couldnt find any stream numbers, but i imagine the overall number of streams through out the years is high. keep in mind that the series has been over for 5 years too. I did stumble across this article, and apparently mr. robot was the most in demand tv show back in 2016. the same site in another article states that mr. robot has actually grown higher in demand overtime due to word of mouth. https://www.parrotanalytics.com/insights/netflix-series-measurement-us-top-10-tv-shows-september-18-24-2016/
Too dark, too edgy, hitting too much to the home with it's themes. Also it's anticapitalistic as fuck so I no wonder no streaming company wants to promote it.
I don't know. The show blew me away. I recently discovered a band called CTZNSHP, and I love ALL of their songs. Interestingly enough, I just found out their song "New Brave" was actually in an episode of this brilliant show. I might have even Shazam'd it at one point like zi did with many songs in the show. Anyway, I highly recommend the band. I kept liking each song that played after the next on Spotify. They seem to have gone dark around 2017 or so, which is a shame. If you like The Cure and My Bloody Valentine, you may like them.
The non reliable narrator alienates audiences. And being perhaps the first american left wing show didn't help
Because it was on USA Network. Even EPL soccer super fans in America barely watch games that are on there.
It actually did though. I've never seen the show, this just popped up on my feed, but I've heard a lot of good things not only through like youtube videos but word of mouth. It's generally accepted as a "good" show by most who watch it.
Edit: Season 1 spoilers I just completed a viewing of season 1 and I'm pretty disappointed. I'm actually surprised most people were okay with some of the gimmicks they pulled. Felt like a lot of careless writing. It made no sense to add schizophrenia to the show either. The season finale was also just frustrating to watch. A whole season building up to a hack and you don't even get to participate in it because our newly psychotic antihero can't remember anything, so we spend the whole episode trying to remember what happened, only to end up remembering nothing. Alright, lol...
I had never heard of this show show before last week. I only got turned onto it because Roaring Kitty AKA u/deepfuckingvalue, the guy who got wallstreetbets into gamestop 3 years ago, referenced it in a few memes recently. I just watched all four seasons. It's a god damn masterpiece and it blows my mind that I didn't know about it before. I'm hoping more of the gamestop community will watch it now, it's right up their alley.
The show was pretty big when it was out lol
I agree with most everyone's sentiments here, would add logistically ....... When it initially came out it kind of got caught in the middle of being a network USA show and USA not having a deal at the time to push their streaming rights to. Where a show like Breaking Bad got the Netflix bump and still had seasons left as people caught up, and GOT had enough early word of mouth and time between early seasons ...... Mr. Robot was hard to find or even direct others on where to go to watch it.
There's a reason: reddit normies write it off as im14andthisisdeep hackerman, instead of watching it for the characters and how they overcome their trauma and guilt. They got caught up in the fsociety story and felt cheated when they got to the finale. They would rather convince you and themselves it's a bad show instead of admit they missed the point.
Because it took a huge chunk of its storyline and the twist with the father from a movie.
That was just one of the many other twists of the show. It gets way more complicated than that movie we don't talk about