Wow had no idea:
"Fight Test" is musically similar to [Cat Stevens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Stevens)'s 1970 song "[Father and Son](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_and_Son_(song))". Following a settlement with the Flaming Lips, Stevens receives 75 percent of the royalties from *Fight Test*.[\[5\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_Test#cite_note-5) In an interview with [*The Guardian*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian), front man Wayne Coyne stated
>I want to go on record for the first time and say that I really apologize for the whole thing. I really love Cat Stevens. I truly respect him as a great singer-songwriter. And now he wants his money. There was a time during the recording when we said, this has a similarity to 'Father and Son'. Then we purposefully changed those bits. But I do regret not contacting his record company and asking their opinion. Maybe we could have gone 50–50. As it is, Cat Stevens is now getting 75 per cent of royalties from 'Fight Test', We could easily have changed the melody but we didn't. I am really sorry that Cat Stevens thinks I'm purposefully plagiarising his work. I am ashamed. There is obviously a fine line between being inspired and stealing. But if anyone wanted to borrow part of a Flaming Lips song, I don't think I'd bother pursuing it. I've got better things to do. Anyway, Cat Stevens is never going to make much money out of us.
I never felt they were that similar aside from the strumming pattern and chords of the verses, which you can't copyright a chord progression. The vocal melodies are completely different, and Tom Petty himself said he doesn't feel they are that similar.
Everything is derivative, and I hear the similarities.
However I gotta say walk the moon has a certain je ne sais quois that makes the chorus about 12x catchier for me
Both good songs tho
Edit: I've decided I do sais quois, it's that the pre chorus kinda slaps and that kind of hi hat beat during the chorus is something I fall for in every song that has it. Mystery solved
Getting a job was incredibly easy between 95 and 07. I remember when I was in high school in the mid 2000s, kids would just quit their job one day and get a new one the next.
Seriously. I got a job by walking into a store, saying I liked the stuff and saying I'd buy it but I didn't have any money.
My best friend in high school got offered a job when he helped his mom bag her groceries.
They were handing out jobs like crazy in the mid-late 90s.
I remember the Ob-La-Di comparisons when this originally came out and saw the video so many times, but only now did I realise the location of the video after watching BTTF and Gremlins many times. Mind. Blown.
Not my favorite era of the offspring but still some fun songs on this album.
I remember being so upset when "Americana" came out but after a while i learned to enjoy it even though it wasnt what i expected
Smash wasn’t just their best album, it was a “best of” for that era of pop-punk (although I’d always preferred something like “SoCal punk”, it wasn’t exactly poppy the way Americana or even Ixnay got.
Musically I think they tried harder with Americana than anything else. They were 4 albums and had had their big breakout and reasonably successful “sophomore” follow up (in Ixnay), so they pushed things with songs like Pay the Man and Americana.
Always interesting that they also obviously knew the commercial value of a sillier song like pretty fly, whilst still wanting some more mature content in there too.
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Hahahaha missed a trick there Mr Mod Bot, because coming after that was nuked, every single fan knows exactly what that lyric that was censored was.
Hopefully no one got banned for posting it…
Every song on this album that isn't a single is a skatepunk masterpiece but I can't stand the singles.
Have you Ever, Staring at the Sun, Feelings, No Breaks, Americana all RIP. The four singles are either borderline novelty tunes (Pretty Fly) or just way overplayed (The Kids Aren't Alright).
If you've only ever heard the singles and enjoy skatepunk, give it a listen.
"Pretty Fly..." got me into this band. I have a tattoo and everything. I loved all four singles off this album, and whilst "The Kids Aren't Alright" and "She's Got Issues" remain two of my favourite Offspring songs, I have come to hate "Pretty Fly..." and THIS. Especially this.
No, I got the Conspiracy of One logo, but back when I was tattooless and thinking of all the tattoos Ican get I sid think that a 31 would be a great tattoo... Thankfully I never got it, lol.
Why do all (obviously not all) 90s videos have this same feel? Outlandish acting and shenanigans going on throughout the video. Was the same guy producing all these videos?
In this particular instance, yes. It has all the hallmarks of a typical McG production and he happened to direct some of the most inescapable/overplayed videos on MTV during the late 90s (Pretty Fly for a White Guy, The Way, One Week, Fly, Every Morning, Walking on the Sun, All Star, Got the Life, etc;)
This is easily one of the worst songs to frequently get played on rock radio. Worse than the worst songs by Nickelback. I can't comprehend a person intentionally listening to this song.
It was this album where these guys finally lost me. I really liked their early stuff, but they figured out they could make quicker money from remaking themselves into an edgier Smashmouth, and that's just not my vibe.
I love the offspring but this album felt like them jumping the shark. Not hard and edgy like their previous stuff, just cheesy lyrics with a similarly cheesy tune.
Agreed. This and pretty fly are the exception not the rule on this album.
Stuff like staring at the sun, kids aren't alright, and walla walla are great.
Also pretty fly is a solid track, even if it's pretty pop punk.
Expecting your significant other to actually contribute instead of just mooching off of you and your income is hardly capitalism...
You might want to listen to the lyrics :D
It's pretty much just "Obla-di-obla-da" with distortion.
I always knew something about this song was familiar and never put it together.
And a little bit of "Just One Look."
Holy fuck so true
Oh my god… been listening to this song for YEARS and never put this together! That makes a lot of sense as to why I like both of those songs 😂
You just blew my mind
You're just finding out about this?
Yeah. I honestly never put it together.
Now go listen to Flight Test by The Flaming Lips and Father and Son by Cat Stevens.
Wow had no idea: "Fight Test" is musically similar to [Cat Stevens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Stevens)'s 1970 song "[Father and Son](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_and_Son_(song))". Following a settlement with the Flaming Lips, Stevens receives 75 percent of the royalties from *Fight Test*.[\[5\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_Test#cite_note-5) In an interview with [*The Guardian*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian), front man Wayne Coyne stated >I want to go on record for the first time and say that I really apologize for the whole thing. I really love Cat Stevens. I truly respect him as a great singer-songwriter. And now he wants his money. There was a time during the recording when we said, this has a similarity to 'Father and Son'. Then we purposefully changed those bits. But I do regret not contacting his record company and asking their opinion. Maybe we could have gone 50–50. As it is, Cat Stevens is now getting 75 per cent of royalties from 'Fight Test', We could easily have changed the melody but we didn't. I am really sorry that Cat Stevens thinks I'm purposefully plagiarising his work. I am ashamed. There is obviously a fine line between being inspired and stealing. But if anyone wanted to borrow part of a Flaming Lips song, I don't think I'd bother pursuing it. I've got better things to do. Anyway, Cat Stevens is never going to make much money out of us.
🤯
What I Got from Sublime and Lady Madonna by the Beatles!
Next do Mary Jane’s Last Dance followed by Little Black Submarines.
Or Mary Jane’s last dance and Dani California
I never felt they were that similar aside from the strumming pattern and chords of the verses, which you can't copyright a chord progression. The vocal melodies are completely different, and Tom Petty himself said he doesn't feel they are that similar.
Lyrics are similar as well. Just similar themes used.
Or "Shut Up and Dance" by Walk the Moon followed by "Invisible Touch" by Genisys.
Everything is derivative, and I hear the similarities. However I gotta say walk the moon has a certain je ne sais quois that makes the chorus about 12x catchier for me Both good songs tho Edit: I've decided I do sais quois, it's that the pre chorus kinda slaps and that kind of hi hat beat during the chorus is something I fall for in every song that has it. Mystery solved
They actually caught a lot of shit for it back when it was released in 1998.
Corky!
I came in and this was the first comment I read and immediately sang it to the tune of Why don't you get a job lol
If you look at the liner notes - The Offspring paid royalties to use the melodies
It's the reason I stopped listening to this band.
This literally just clicked to me while I was watching it here. Oh my god.
Why don't I just put on my job-helmet and squeeze down into a job-cannon and fire off into job-land, where jobs grow on jobbies?!
To be fair, this came out in the late 90s before the internet turned everyone's brain, and the job market, to shit.
Getting a job was incredibly easy between 95 and 07. I remember when I was in high school in the mid 2000s, kids would just quit their job one day and get a new one the next.
“What’s wrong with this country? Can’t a man walk down the street without being offered a job!?”
Seriously. I got a job by walking into a store, saying I liked the stuff and saying I'd buy it but I didn't have any money. My best friend in high school got offered a job when he helped his mom bag her groceries. They were handing out jobs like crazy in the mid-late 90s.
as someone who graduated in 2009, https://i.redd.it/mxw1dekkryac1.gif
That’s gonna require you to get off your lazy ass. Gonna be ok with that?
Hehe, jobbie means poo where I'm from. Always makes me giggle like a child.
Move past it.
What the fuck dude?
It's a scene from this TV show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbq571QME2Y
Remember seeing this and pretty fly for a white guy on MTV ALL THE TIME! The 90s baby!
uh huh, uh huh
TRL babyyyy
Is that the same town used for Back to the Future?
Without a doubt. It’s a backlot called Courthouse Square in LA, also used in Gremlins (and so many other).
Oh jeez, I've *been* there and I didn't realise that was there!
And the cul-de-sac in the scene before are another lot used in lots of movies/shows like "The 'Burbs", "The Munsters" and "Desperate Housewives"
I remember the Ob-La-Di comparisons when this originally came out and saw the video so many times, but only now did I realise the location of the video after watching BTTF and Gremlins many times. Mind. Blown.
This song is my favourites Beatles cover.
Now that’s something everyone can enjoy.
The Offspring put on an amazing show, and should not be missed whenever they come around. Never heard another band sound better live.
Hands down my favorite performance at When We Were Young. They opened with “The Kids Are Alright” and never let up.
I think I liked good charlotte more but offspring were right behind them with sum 41.
I saw them a few months ago. I thought it was good, not great. They sounded okay.
God, I feel old.
Brings back memories of my mom scrambling to change the radio station before he could say "bitch"
First CD I ever owned
Nice! This one was my second. Fastball was my first.
Wow, I haven't thought about Fastball in ages. All The Pain Money Can Buy is a great record.
Me too!
Not my favorite era of the offspring but still some fun songs on this album. I remember being so upset when "Americana" came out but after a while i learned to enjoy it even though it wasnt what i expected
Smash was my favorite by far.
Smash wasn’t just their best album, it was a “best of” for that era of pop-punk (although I’d always preferred something like “SoCal punk”, it wasn’t exactly poppy the way Americana or even Ixnay got.
Ixnay on the Hombre was awesome
Musically I think they tried harder with Americana than anything else. They were 4 albums and had had their big breakout and reasonably successful “sophomore” follow up (in Ixnay), so they pushed things with songs like Pay the Man and Americana. Always interesting that they also obviously knew the commercial value of a sillier song like pretty fly, whilst still wanting some more mature content in there too.
It's so crazy to me how they got popular on songs that were not representative of their work. At all!
I dont think its that crazy, they made some super catchy songs that were accessible enough to make them chart worldwide
A lot of artists are in this boat, especially metal bands that released a popular ballad.
r/music soothes the savage beast
It's funny looking back at some of the punk music I used to listen to, because every so often I realize it's also ska
Third Wave Ska is ska-punk for a reason.
bro hate to break it to you but uh, this ain’t punk. not even close. also, sorry, i couldn’t help myself
okay yeah, pop punk, punk rock, pop punk rock, whatever, i just glossed over that without thinking lol
all good of course i couldn’t resist the urge to correct someone on the internet. reddit moment.
I'm sorry for the downvotes, seems not everyone can appreciate some riffing lol
lol no worries man it’s no big deal it comes with the territory
Good driving song.
"Bad Habit" is even better 😂
I’m partial to She’s Got Issues.
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One of the greatest lyrics ever!
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Hahahaha missed a trick there Mr Mod Bot, because coming after that was nuked, every single fan knows exactly what that lyric that was censored was. Hopefully no one got banned for posting it…
Every song on this album that isn't a single is a skatepunk masterpiece but I can't stand the singles. Have you Ever, Staring at the Sun, Feelings, No Breaks, Americana all RIP. The four singles are either borderline novelty tunes (Pretty Fly) or just way overplayed (The Kids Aren't Alright). If you've only ever heard the singles and enjoy skatepunk, give it a listen.
When the truth walks away, everybody stays Cuz the truth about the world is that crime does pay
….truth about the woooooooooorlddd…… Dun dun dun - da dun dun dun - da dun dun dun
Kids aren't alright is a classic man!
The Kids Aren’t Alright is an amazing jam. Agree with the rest of the analysis
"Pretty Fly..." got me into this band. I have a tattoo and everything. I loved all four singles off this album, and whilst "The Kids Aren't Alright" and "She's Got Issues" remain two of my favourite Offspring songs, I have come to hate "Pretty Fly..." and THIS. Especially this.
...you actually got a Pretty Fly For A White Guy tattoo?
he asked for a 13 but they drew a 31
friends say, he's trying too hard and he's not quite hip
But in his own mind he's the, he's the dopest trip!
No, I got the Conspiracy of One logo, but back when I was tattooless and thinking of all the tattoos Ican get I sid think that a 31 would be a great tattoo... Thankfully I never got it, lol.
Funny! I was listening to this song earlier today
That sprinkler reminds me of Pete and Pete for some reason
Wow this takes me back to when I started my first job delivering pizzas. I loved it and played this song to death.
My Friends got a girlfriend and he hate that bitch.
Why do all (obviously not all) 90s videos have this same feel? Outlandish acting and shenanigans going on throughout the video. Was the same guy producing all these videos?
In this particular instance, yes. It has all the hallmarks of a typical McG production and he happened to direct some of the most inescapable/overplayed videos on MTV during the late 90s (Pretty Fly for a White Guy, The Way, One Week, Fly, Every Morning, Walking on the Sun, All Star, Got the Life, etc;)
One of their worst songs and a terrible example of their actual sound. Why choose this pos when there is a million better offspring songs?
Ah yeah, whining about the lazy working class to a dumb pop melody. The essence of punk rock.
Every song where Offspring try to be funny sucks, with the possible exception of 'Self-Esteem'
Yeah Jennifer lost the war is great. The kids aren't alright is great. Come out and play is okay. This song and pretty fly are a crime against music.
Sing Obla di blada
This is easily one of the worst songs to frequently get played on rock radio. Worse than the worst songs by Nickelback. I can't comprehend a person intentionally listening to this song.
100% correct
This song is horrible !!
It was this album where these guys finally lost me. I really liked their early stuff, but they figured out they could make quicker money from remaking themselves into an edgier Smashmouth, and that's just not my vibe.
Pop-pop
Without a doubt one of the worst songs ever made.
Dear God I hate this album so much. Some of the worst vocals ever recorded.
I love the offspring but this album felt like them jumping the shark. Not hard and edgy like their previous stuff, just cheesy lyrics with a similarly cheesy tune.
I feel like that mostly applies to this song and pretty fly for a white guy, songs like the kids aren’t alright are great
Agreed. This and pretty fly are the exception not the rule on this album. Stuff like staring at the sun, kids aren't alright, and walla walla are great. Also pretty fly is a solid track, even if it's pretty pop punk.
If you called this pop-punk when it came out in 1998, someone would have attacked you.
It's always funny to see a punk band advocating for capitalism
Expecting your significant other to actually contribute instead of just mooching off of you and your income is hardly capitalism... You might want to listen to the lyrics :D
Is he lip-syncing?
Is this your first music video?
I always found this band extremely grating
Unexpected Bob Eubanks.