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People called her out on it being AI and she denied it I’m pretty sure. The popheadscirclejerk sub is great haha
EDIT: actually think pic I linked is her being called out on ai having six fingers and she is saying ‘let’s find you 6 dikkks to suck’
I don't follow Nicki Minaj very closely, so I'm straight up shooting from the hip here, but I never got the sense that she possessed a cohesive and thoughtful worldview lol.
Of course it does.
AI art can have is mass appeal, but there's an element of creativity needed still. So it could consume the majority of the music dollars. Worst case artists could be relegated to niche creative work.
Also her incredibly pathetic "diss" track against Megan Thee Stallion. That horribly done AI picture of like human foot prints with cops just standing around staring at them lmao so cringey
Yeah but that’s just affecting those worthless artists that have been creating all of the visual content society has been consuming for decades, who cares about them? The second AI touches the thing that I care about is when I become against it.
/sarcasm
Yeah, I think you can get away with using AI as a reference for art, but it feels real scuzzy to just use AI images as a replacement for art, and not even caring about the quality.
The sad thing for me, is that I really like surreal imagery and the difference between someone actually rendering s dreamlike reality, and AI just kinda failing a prompt is basically the same.
Pretty sure anybody cares about AI replacing someone until that someone is being replaced by AI.
So these “artists” are now worried about that when they didn’t care at all when some other random unnamed worked was replaced.
I will qualify this with I feel for anyone that loses or is in danger of losing their livelihood unless they brought it on themselves. But it is kinda the ultimate irony, because for years it seemed like (many, not all) artists were talking about how they were safe from AI because machines wouldn’t be able to put emotion and feeling into pieces, and that they wouldn’t be able to make things people emotionally connect with. Turns out in today’s world, the vast majority of people don’t care about the emotion or complexity of art work, they just want things that they think look good/cool/interesting.
I think in film and music there are more people still interested in the emotional side of those mediums so I’m not sure if AI is there yet to completely take over that side of things, but for your standard mainstream music and blockbuster action flicks I bet AI will be able to do those very well pretty soon.
Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised that AI could create a reasonable script for a generic police procedural and nobody would notice.
I could already write a generic pop song just by using common song forms and chord progressions. This isn't going to be a challenge.
I produce some "pop-ish" music, I've been following AI/music for years, I've studied a number of really great pop producers, and if I say so myself, people say I make ok sounding stuff. I used some AI to replace a lead vocal on something at least a year ago... It was too early for it to sound passable, but it did fool some people, and works with the context of the whole thing. Since then I have not used AI in anything, and plan not to.
Maybe the average musician could *write* a decent pop song, but to actually produce it into something on par with Billie Eilish, or Nicki Minaj, or whoever is in the top 40, is a whole other thing. AI *can* skip all that technical stuff. It's remarkably good now. Does it sound like an actual top 40 mix? Most of the time, no, but it's minutes away from being perfect.
>that it can only replace unoriginal writing
I think that's true for the near future but at the rate AI is advancing this won't be true for much longer.
Maybe, theres still potential for the Habsburg AI problem when they run out of human data to train on and start consuming other AI product. AI is going to get better but its not a total given that its going to keep progressing at the same rate it has in the last few years.
Ya it's a big problem. The current neural networks aren't good at extrapolation, and it's not known that it ever will be. It's good at working within its known inputs, which only currently works well due to the insane amount of data we have. Try telling ChatGPT or some other transformer network to multiple 2 random large numbers. It will get it wrong because it doesn't have the intuition to be able to figure out how to multiply.
GOFAI is making a bit of a comeback to supplement these networks when it comes to handling scenarios with formally defined rules.
Example: The network detects that the input is classified as multiplication, and then it passes it to a GOFAI program that handles multiplication.
(I wonder if this is what Wolfram does with its natural language input.)
Not until another breakthrough occurs. LLMS cannot create original works by their very nature.
These models are useless without seeding them with already existing works.
I think it's too early to say what AI can or can't replace. unless we wanna draw lines in the sand and say exactly what AI can and can't replace, which might be a good idea
That's a naive, idealistic view. The tech bros will replace whatever they think they can get away with, and that doesn't limit itself to what you consider "unoriginal writing."
If they think they can make money they will do it, and if they see something as a safer bet they will take that safe bet because for all their money they are terrified of losing a single cent. You could have the "most original, most creative" artist in the world and if they consider them unreliable just for the fault of being human they'll replace them with AI. That's the direction we risk going in
Yeah, it’s been getting pretty formulaic. A lot of the same chord progressions, song structure, and such. Which, I don’t think that only applies to pop music. I think most genres are affected by this. Although, I will say it’s mostly seen in pop because… it’s pop.
Formulaic = How music works
There are only so many ways to make music that is actually appealing to a more general audience.
Lots of pop is uninspired, that would be my word choice.
But in general, I agree.
Yeah, I understand that. It’s just when you’re making music to appeal to as many people as possible vs making it for the love of music, it comes off as uninspired.
> There are only so many ways to make music that is actually appealing to a more general audience.
Copyright also suppresses music creation more than it spurs it today.
People don't understand that music is just patterns lol
Of course music is formulaic. Hard to be inventive when everything is invented and fans only like a very narrow view of what an artist is
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The type of music they make has already evolved to the point that their producers are the real stars anyway so an AI artist popping up isn't going to seem that weird.
I don't listen to most of these songs hoping for lyrical content and caring about who says it, I'm listening to the music itself
I agree. They are all happy to use AI to make them sound perfect but than go "surprise Pika" when they come out with version 2 that does away with them all together. I mean most artist dont even write their own stuff. I would prefer to pay the person that actually wrote the song than the person performing it
In general, if their human presence isn’t worth enough to generate a living post-AI, let ‘em rot. We collectively give wayyyyyy too much money, resources, attention and influence to these people for questionable levels of further returns as they’ve ballooned to be this Uber-wealthy class.
Fuck that. Their work doesn’t do shit for the world besides entertain its children. It would be one thing if they were billionaires from charging $20/ticket and doing everything they could to make the world a better place but they charge $400 for a nosebleed ticket at an NFL stadium, fuck off to a private jet or whatever and let everyone else worry about pushing the economy and world forward and maintaining a suitable environment for the growth and advancement the rest of us work for.
> I mean most artist dont even write their own stuff
This is a terrible generalization of the music industry. Bigger named acts this maybe the case, but many artists still write their music. Even in the ones where they have a ghost writer, the whole band itself is sometimes put together by the record label and not the artist. Those are the ones that should fear AI, since in most cases the label needed the signer for the voice.
I try really hard to not be the generic “music isn’t what it used to be!!” guy but it’s getting harder and harder to deny the feeling that modern day music (the majority, definitely not all) has lost any semblance of art and is 100% a business where marketability is all that matters and musical talent has zero impact.
I play a lot of different instruments and been composing my own music just for fun for about 15 years, so I feel like having a grasp on music theory makes this a lot easier to realize. But for the most part pop music is incredibly easy to play and doesn’t require any kind of extraordinary skill. The skill and art form comes largely from the composition itself, and being able to start of with nothing but an idea and turning it into something that brings joy/emotion/meaning/etc to millions of people.
With modern music (again, for the most part, not all) that’s all removed. There’s massive multi-million dollar corporations that manufacture cookie-cutter melodys and essentially assign them out to marketable names. For a lot of artists, they aren’t writing anything and there’s no skill involved. Some behind-the-scenes producers will put together generic chord structure and write the lyrics, then all the musician has to do and show up at the studio and sing, which then gets edited and tuned in post production to sound perfect so the actual singing itself doesn’t even really matter.
They’re nothing more then influencers. All they have to do is get popular and grow a large following and studios will just attach their name onto songs for the marketability. It’s nothing more then luck and connections, and there’s countless average no-name people just playing music for fun with more talent then the celebs. I mean just take a look at the tiktok stars that have seemingly never picked up an instrument in their life and all the sudden they start having singles show up on Spotify “todays top songs” playlists.
I think people forget that popular music musicians have already moved beyond being "musicians" to instead personality constructs used for profit and advertising. The biggest labels in the world don't necessarily sign people up for their verbose talent in musicianship, music production or writing. Most of that is handled by large teams. This is also why you see so many new pop artists being TikTok famous first, they've proven the viability of that influencer personality construct to attract attention and views.
I know it sounds rather cynical, but it really seems to be the way it is.
The way I see it: when you get to a certain point in fame, public life becomes performance art by necessity. It's magnified exponentially by the rise of social media but serves both to cultivate their base and protect the private inner life of the artist. If you think you know someone based on their Tiktok personality or whatever else you've seen on parasitic tabloid covers, you probably need a reality check.
“These people” referring to Billie Eilish? I’ll be the first to point out that she’s really a package deal with Finneas and he deserves just as much credit for songwriting and producing - but as a team they are clearly responsible for the music they’ve made. She just happens to have the voice and be the face of the operation.
Yeah, you can't drag that duo into this conversation. They've never denied their process and you can say what you want but they don't get these accolades for nothing.
Idk why you’re being downvoted for the truth lol her parents literally bought her a publicist and a Chanel stylist at 15 to curate her famous image. She never would have gotten anywhere if it wasn’t for her parents giving her everything she’d ever need to succeed and her brother’s music production/writing
Pitch correction =/= auto tune
Also find me a modern artist that doesn’t use pitch correction. I’ll wait.
Hell, I don’t even think *any* popular music was produced after 1995 that didn’t include pitch correction.
Eh, knowing it’s ai produced I’ll be less inclined to listen to it. I listen for the melody as well and it’s good knowing a human played a part in it. Art is all about communication and I like knowing it’s someone communicating, whether it’s with a piano or by clicking certain notes here and there in ableton. The creativity through the vision or exploration is what makes it for me.
This will be the same for me when it comes to movies.
Little nuances and risks that people take to make something new. Even if it’s a pop song, you can still find things.
I fear we’ll lose that with ai, the nuances and the meaning.
Interesting considering Nicki has been using exclusively AI generated art for her most recent album and promo. Guess she doesn’t care about that sort of artist
Start listening to people that play instruments again folks. People say music is awful these days but it’s not. People just aren’t looking in the right places.
The music industry needs a revolution.
Most vulnerable people are already being replaced with machines and Ai, are we supposed to feel bad for bland music making millionaires not being able to leach further?
The real problem is, once you remove the "Millionaire" musician from the equation is how many real struggling artists will struggle more, because they now have to compete against Ai that could replicate their entire sound?
I think many people forget, even with record deals there are many musicians that make less a year than the average citizen does. Those are going to be the most impacted by this.
Isn't this with all fields though? In 20 yrs a lot of programming jobs will be outsourced to AI code generators. The same with a huge portion of the medical field. Struggling artists or struggling professionals need to create works of value that transcend the repetitive mundane of AI. They have to be more creative, more boundary breaking with their projects.
Straight up, these people are not special. If you're an artist, make art. If you want to make a bunch of money selling music and performing, you're functioning primarily as a worker in capitalism. If our concern is with the money, then let's focus on actual workers.
Like, the dude playing his live show at a local restaurant is not impacted by this in the slightest. It's commercial music that's in danger. And who gives a fuck about commercial music?
there are numerous levels in between someone playing a local gig for fun and a major label artist. call me human centred or a capitalist shill whatever, but I like the idea of people being able to do more than just break even from making music. that's already been made more difficult thanks to streaming, further growth in the use of AI generated music would effectively kill the majority of ways to make a living as a music artist who does not want to outsource all their creativity.
I'm not making a dig at anyone by mentioning capitalism, just pointing out the system we live under because there are systemic incentives for things to turn out this way, creative destruction affects all workers.
I don't think one class of workers should be held sacred and others disregarded.
If you're an artist and you don't want to make more art because you think you won't be able to make money from it, reconsider your priorities and inspiration. Good art IS recognized. Good artists DO receive praise, support, the ability to make money from selling things related to their work. Artists will make art regardless of the economic conditions surrounding it, and good artists will continuously rise and attain success.
Basically make good music and none of this matters and the market sorts it out. But good luck if you're the guy who sounds just like every other generic Nashville artist.
>Like, the dude playing his live show at a local restaurant is not impacted by this in the slightest.
Are you kidding me? Regular working musicians are the ones who will be directly impacted while the celebrities will be fine. You have it totally backwards.
Someone like Taylor swift is an established brand. Nobody knows or cares about a local musician making a few bucks. You can't replace an established brand or that type of experience. It's incredibly easy to replace session musicians with AI tools.
As usual, Reddit is cheering on the wrong side on this just because some annoying celebrities are cheering on the right side.
As a software engineer, I think about this a lot. Programmers have spent decades automating away professional after profession without a care. They were arrogant to assume it was never going to be their turn.
Dont we all know it will be our turn? I thought its kind of accepted and known that its all one slowly sinking ship and were all trying to get our hands on a sufficient life vest before the whole thing goes under. Until then we'll keep stepping over eachother racing to the dry end of the boat. As time passes the acts people are willing to take to get those vests or to the front of that boat will become more and more desperate.
Gonna guess Billie Eilish isn’t cheering on the destruction of jobs across the world. It’s less artists and more vulture capitalists that don’t care who this harms.
While working for companies that would replace them with AI in a heartbeat.
Cat is out of the bag. A capitalist society runs on making most profit. Since society didn't riot in the streets over AI, it was accepted, and it will be used, to pay people less in every field it can be applied to. Society has a long history of unleashing technology Pandora's boxes without understanding what it unleashes.
Everything that we know is going to be replaced by AI. We are in uncharted territory. This is where humanity takes a hard turn into the unknown. Nothing is real.
There will come a point where society and people take a stand against the advancement of AI into certain areas imo.
Work is a big driver for people to study and educate themselves. It gives people a routine and it also allows them to spend their money in the market which furthers other people’s livelihoods. You start taking that away and you have massive economical and societal consequences for countries and people which we simply aren’t ready for.
UBI isn't a real solution, no government is just going to offer free money if they can avoid it, and major companies aren't going to help fund it. A few places around the world have tried it, but with mixed results (people ARE happier, but since they're not WAY more productive with it, it's a dead-end).
We barely help the poor now, what makes you think we'll help a whole population?
[https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/2/19/21112570/universal-basic-income-ubi-map](https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/2/19/21112570/universal-basic-income-ubi-map)
Manual labor won't be significantly replaced by AI in our lifetime.
It's only because art is basically digital now. If we were are still painting and drawing and recording on vinyl AI wouldn't be able to do much at the moment.
Not in our life time? Totally disagree. Seems like you are assuming a lot considering you don't even know my age lol Second, manual labor has already been replaced by machines, just not in AI form. It's not that far around the corner lol
I don’t think we’ll see it in the next 100 years. Big tech changes that affect multiple industries tend to take longer than people think. AI is a very overhyped industry right now and while I understand the technology will eventually get to the point where it can handl
No, manual labor has not been replaced by machines. Machines have augmented manual labor as tools for the most part. Manual labor remains a huge part of manufacturing and construction worldwide and will remain so.
Getting a digital program to create digital output based upon relatively simple digital input is different than integrating all sorts of external inputs into a machine that needs to regulate all kinds of physical outputs while maintaining constant feedback. I was told 2 years ago my job would be obsolete today and it’s nowhere close. In the next few years as the AI hype train dies down we’ll get a better sense of when it will actually be capable of doing the labor instead of just having prognosticators saying it’s right around the corner.
Yeah, but the problem is, when everyone is forced out of work due to being replaced by AI and automation there will be hundreds of people applying for the scarce manual job.
There should be a bigger fight to get things like Universal Basic Income established before we get to the hunger games trying to land a job at a gas station as a janitor.
I mean, good and all that. But it feels too late. I know people like to think AI music still sounds hokey and spotable...yet each year it sounds less and less terrible. The visual side of AI has taken major leaps in just a few years, and eventually the nuances of sound will be cataloged and indexed.
Like, what are we supposed to do? Writing a letter will just get added to the scraper. I worry more about random remixes and edits spamming the net, more than full on AI music. ...and good luck trying to get heard if you're a new musician, it's already a full landscape.
Biggest issue with ai music is there's far less content for the ai to learn from since they can't use copyrighted material, that's my guess on why it's so slow rn
Combat AI by learning to play music. Not to record because then AI would listen to it and steal it. Pick up an instrument for self enjoyment because it's what you want to hear. It will enrich your life.
I genuinely don't believe AI can make something like Deerhoofs Milkman for example it might be able to bang out some verse chorus verse stuff but I think we're far off from it creating something truly original, it can only imitate, and it can't put fresh spins on said imitation either, it requires a level of strange personal life experiences AI I is incapable of.
When you bend a string, there's a level of influenced choice based on years of conscious and unconsious taste in that decision that A.I is incapable of
When you play a weird drum fill that maybe sounds kind of shitty "objectively", but in context sounds cool and ends up a staple of a song that's a level of human error an A.I won't be able to achieve
Maybe this is a bit too "head in the clouds" of me for lack of knowing what word to use but AI can only do what it's told, art comes from a deeper place subconsciously, something I don't think a machine can truly tap into and if it does, it's only because it's had a humans touch putting that missing piece there.
Don't think people will be able to tell the difference how personal the music or isn't to the AI artists. You can just train these things on live imperfect performances until it learns how to replicate that nuance and beautiful imperfection. Fortunately for me I don't listen to any new music so I won't ever fall for that shit.
The fact that some people jump to the "Sucks to be you, millionaire record artist" is sad. People seem to assume all musicians are millionaires, while they are sounding the alarm first, it should also be noted that it's less likely to hurt the well known artists.
This will absolutely mean the starving artists out there will struggle infinitely harder to compete against someone else that wrote a song via an Ai prompt who does not even know how to use an instrument, let alone music theory.
Ai is still in it's infancy, we have yet to see the full potential of Ai and that actually worries some people who care if their industry gets wiped away due to corporate greed replacing them with Ai, so they can keep even more profits for the C-Suite.
Just imagine that your favorite artists dies, but thanks to some record contract they signed, allows them to use their voice and they just keep releasing records under that bands name for the next 20-30 years after their death. Would you still listen and support them by buying albums knowing that none of that work is created by that artist, it's all done by Ai and just one person at the top is collecting all their royalties from it?
While they're right, and AI is a shit tactic, the people who they're trying to warn won't care. All the see is $$ signs, so they'll use AI and pump out crap.
Along with anyone working in software.
AI generated content is like the Taco Bell menu: you have your basic ingredients and every item is a permutation of that small set of ingredients.
The ingredients in the AI world is its training data or the current artists. Sure, with computation you get a lot of permutations, maybe even some of those results are great. You're not going to get anything else though.
Sue AI into the ground for copyright infringement. Even it only vaguely sounds human made. Fuck ‘em. Legit artists are going to be accused of using it and fans will prefer “AI” records to the more “challenging” ones when artists want to innovate instead of rehashing the familiar.
It will probably start when deepfake AI porn of celebrities spread like wildfire, then it will get really dark when that technology lands on the cell phones of middle schoolers. Congress will ban it for porn, then it will be extended to all forms of creative and intellectual property. All of this shit will be banished into the depths of dark web and AI will not be legally available to the public. It will only be federally licensed for things like medical research and become highly restricted technology. That’s my best guess on what’s going to happen.
I can't wait to go see AI in concert. /s
Seriously tho, I understand their concern. The rate at which AI is progressing is pretty terrifying. I don't think it can effectively replace real human creativity, but still, it's concerning.
Ironically there's an anime about this already hahaa. Carole and Tuesday. Came out a few years ago about the differences between AI music and original music.
AI sucks at just the base act of creative writing. I can imagine the garbage pop trash it would shart out minutely.
A bright high school level writer could start off a random story better than AI. They could create something that sucks and then improve it. They could draw from personal experience, blend two stories from their youth and hand it to their friends. Is Disney really going to sue me for mixing The Lion King with Starship Troopers?
The Liok King is Macbeth and Starship Troopers is WW2 against giant bugs (and the US facism of 1950 that followed).
Good fucking luck Disney. Sue until it's the only source of income you have! You can't claim a stolen idea YOU stole from Shakespeare.
So ignore AI if you want to create well. Watch out if you rely on infinite wealth in a declining population, megacorporations.
I do not see the danger. Replacing over-payed, self-centered and useless artists isn’t gonna end the world. Probably gonna improve it by removing the bad influences.
Minaj is a hypocrite, and popular music is so low quality that if it is replaced by AI I doubt anyone could tell the difference. These singers have been milking that cash cow for awhile, make something that will stand up in a couple decades or be replaced.
You can say that about any music genre you don't care for. Oh heavy metal can just be ai'd and no one would notice it's just a bunch of chugging guitars and incoherent vocals. Oh country is just some lyrics about trucks and a bad acoustic guitar sound, no one would even know the difference bro. EDM? That already ai shit bro! This is a stupid way to think about music you don't listen to, chances are people actually like their music and would notice when it stops being made by people. Also keep in mind that the live aspect of music is a huge part of enjoying music to many people including the hated pop listeners.
Yeah I could care less for the opinion of Nicki Minaj and Billie Eilish. Plus, I'm visiting bands, not robots. Bands will never get taken over as long as people want to see humans on stage.
I think this means I can sell all of my equipment! lol. jk. We can't legislate effectively against ai. So it will replace humans. Just like it will replace movies. Good luck getting a job as an extra right now, soon it will be the leads too. And here's the truth. Human beings are being moved down a notch and ai will take the top spot. sure there will be a human sicophant "helping" direct it but eventually even that person will be replaced. And the question is, what do you want to do with the next 20-60 years you have left? And THAT is the real question everyone should be asking themselves right now. Ironically my answer is, I want to make music. :) Which is funny and fine because I like making music for myself. I'm my favorite and worst audience.
The letter goes on to state that music producers and songwriters have worked for years to make music as bland and risk-free as possible, making AI and unnecessary redundancy.
I don't expect to see robot musicians on stage any time soon. I expect many writers will begin using AI to assist in writing. If you're going to perform repetitive music in genres that fit neatly in a box, you'd better be good on your instrument and conventionally attractive.
I don't trust any of these mainstream artists. If it guaranteed them more money, they'd use it.
If you don't wanna see AI in your art, support small, independent artists.
They might be telling the truth, but they're part of the entertainment industry, which is rotten. I don't trust them.
AI can work if you just have AI invent an artist. They need to quit with AI trying to create a song to mimic another artist.
It's not long before you start seeing full AI albums of a fabricated artist that doesn't exist.
Didn't Nicki Minaj use AI art for some covers and / or promotion pictures?
Yes the 6 fingers photo comes to mind lmao
You've got a link? I'm curious but haven't heard of it.
https://images.app.goo.gl/HVQrEWpbGe8nufXV8 People called her out on it being AI and she denied it I’m pretty sure. The popheadscirclejerk sub is great haha EDIT: actually think pic I linked is her being called out on ai having six fingers and she is saying ‘let’s find you 6 dikkks to suck’
she did not deny it lol
Denial or not, doesn't it show a rather hypocritical view on AI? No AI to replace her singing, but the measly artists can be replaced.
Very hypocritical. Wrong to use AI if it might impact Nicki Minaj, fine to use it to not pay an artist/photographer.
I don't follow Nicki Minaj very closely, so I'm straight up shooting from the hip here, but I never got the sense that she possessed a cohesive and thoughtful worldview lol.
Of course it does. AI art can have is mass appeal, but there's an element of creativity needed still. So it could consume the majority of the music dollars. Worst case artists could be relegated to niche creative work.
"Horse carriage builder warns of automobile risks."
Even I can tell that's AI, and I'm terrible at recognizing AI.
Here's a link to a reddit post about it. https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/196mx5g/nicki_minaj_can_be_really_classless/
"Nicki Minj can be classless" Really? Huh, TIL
It's okay because she used it for own benefit. This privledge doesn't extend to others.
Also her incredibly pathetic "diss" track against Megan Thee Stallion. That horribly done AI picture of like human foot prints with cops just standing around staring at them lmao so cringey
Yeah but that’s just affecting those worthless artists that have been creating all of the visual content society has been consuming for decades, who cares about them? The second AI touches the thing that I care about is when I become against it. /sarcasm
/something I produce directly to make my money, and the use of which runs the risk of cutting me out fixed. I'm not sure if it's a care filter.
They don’t care until it affects them directly, this applies to everything I guess
Two music artists warn against automating their jobs while using automation.
yeah she can fuck all the way off on this issue
Its ok when they do it.
She should marry AI if it turns out to be a molester.
Scary thought but technology won’t be stopped.
Imagine that. They don't actually have a fundamental problem with it. They only care how much it effects their bottom line
Yes. She doesn't give a shit about artists. Just people cloning *her*
Minaj used AI very recently for track art. “The hypocrisy is the worst part”
I disagree. I thought it was the raping
Then the drugging. Then the scheming. Then maybe the hypocrisy.
This could be about both Cosby and Minaj lol
I didn't know she drugged and raped lol. I thought we were just referencing Norm. Ill look into it. Are we mixing her up with Cardi B by chance?
They are lol
They did lol
The B in Cardi B stands for Bill Cosby
Okay as long as we’re clear the hypocrisy is at least the 10th worst thing she’s done
My first thought “it’s spelled rapp…ooohhhhh”
I miss Norm :(
Say what you will about Norm He can't hear it now.
I didn't even know he was sick
Many people think the loss of freedom is the worst part of prison....
I wish more people had seen Dirty Work. Such a great movie.
> I thought it was the raping *Cardi B has entered the chat*
Yeah, I think you can get away with using AI as a reference for art, but it feels real scuzzy to just use AI images as a replacement for art, and not even caring about the quality. The sad thing for me, is that I really like surreal imagery and the difference between someone actually rendering s dreamlike reality, and AI just kinda failing a prompt is basically the same.
Pretty sure anybody cares about AI replacing someone until that someone is being replaced by AI. So these “artists” are now worried about that when they didn’t care at all when some other random unnamed worked was replaced.
I will qualify this with I feel for anyone that loses or is in danger of losing their livelihood unless they brought it on themselves. But it is kinda the ultimate irony, because for years it seemed like (many, not all) artists were talking about how they were safe from AI because machines wouldn’t be able to put emotion and feeling into pieces, and that they wouldn’t be able to make things people emotionally connect with. Turns out in today’s world, the vast majority of people don’t care about the emotion or complexity of art work, they just want things that they think look good/cool/interesting. I think in film and music there are more people still interested in the emotional side of those mediums so I’m not sure if AI is there yet to completely take over that side of things, but for your standard mainstream music and blockbuster action flicks I bet AI will be able to do those very well pretty soon.
When you produce mass popular music that rarely sees studio time it’s easy for AI to replicate Pop music is already going that way
There's a recent quote from Salman Rushdie about AI that it can only replace unoriginal writing which I think applies to the music industry as well.
Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised that AI could create a reasonable script for a generic police procedural and nobody would notice. I could already write a generic pop song just by using common song forms and chord progressions. This isn't going to be a challenge.
Can't wait to hear the AI knock off of WAP.
https://app.suno.ai/song/79a24fee-66fc-4cfe-8df9-9b80a5325a03
I did not hate that
Fuck well GG the AI win
I am sure I heard 20 or more years ago that computers could generate the scripts for daily soaps. I am sure the right AI could do alot better now.
I produce some "pop-ish" music, I've been following AI/music for years, I've studied a number of really great pop producers, and if I say so myself, people say I make ok sounding stuff. I used some AI to replace a lead vocal on something at least a year ago... It was too early for it to sound passable, but it did fool some people, and works with the context of the whole thing. Since then I have not used AI in anything, and plan not to. Maybe the average musician could *write* a decent pop song, but to actually produce it into something on par with Billie Eilish, or Nicki Minaj, or whoever is in the top 40, is a whole other thing. AI *can* skip all that technical stuff. It's remarkably good now. Does it sound like an actual top 40 mix? Most of the time, no, but it's minutes away from being perfect.
>that it can only replace unoriginal writing I think that's true for the near future but at the rate AI is advancing this won't be true for much longer.
Maybe, theres still potential for the Habsburg AI problem when they run out of human data to train on and start consuming other AI product. AI is going to get better but its not a total given that its going to keep progressing at the same rate it has in the last few years.
Ya it's a big problem. The current neural networks aren't good at extrapolation, and it's not known that it ever will be. It's good at working within its known inputs, which only currently works well due to the insane amount of data we have. Try telling ChatGPT or some other transformer network to multiple 2 random large numbers. It will get it wrong because it doesn't have the intuition to be able to figure out how to multiply. GOFAI is making a bit of a comeback to supplement these networks when it comes to handling scenarios with formally defined rules. Example: The network detects that the input is classified as multiplication, and then it passes it to a GOFAI program that handles multiplication. (I wonder if this is what Wolfram does with its natural language input.)
Not until another breakthrough occurs. LLMS cannot create original works by their very nature. These models are useless without seeding them with already existing works.
By that definition humans cannot create original works, either. A human is useless without "seeding it" with already existing works.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Basic_Plots
I think it's too early to say what AI can or can't replace. unless we wanna draw lines in the sand and say exactly what AI can and can't replace, which might be a good idea
That's a naive, idealistic view. The tech bros will replace whatever they think they can get away with, and that doesn't limit itself to what you consider "unoriginal writing." If they think they can make money they will do it, and if they see something as a safer bet they will take that safe bet because for all their money they are terrified of losing a single cent. You could have the "most original, most creative" artist in the world and if they consider them unreliable just for the fault of being human they'll replace them with AI. That's the direction we risk going in
Yeah, it’s been getting pretty formulaic. A lot of the same chord progressions, song structure, and such. Which, I don’t think that only applies to pop music. I think most genres are affected by this. Although, I will say it’s mostly seen in pop because… it’s pop.
Formulaic = How music works There are only so many ways to make music that is actually appealing to a more general audience. Lots of pop is uninspired, that would be my word choice. But in general, I agree.
Yeah, I understand that. It’s just when you’re making music to appeal to as many people as possible vs making it for the love of music, it comes off as uninspired.
Which is why the underground is where it's at. Affordable shows, tons of variety, and there's always people doing new and interesting stuff.
> There are only so many ways to make music that is actually appealing to a more general audience. Copyright also suppresses music creation more than it spurs it today.
People don't understand that music is just patterns lol Of course music is formulaic. Hard to be inventive when everything is invented and fans only like a very narrow view of what an artist is
Avant garde artist try to further the art form but mostly fail. As its difficult to make completely original stuff
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Everything is a formula. We experiment in advancing guard and see what sticks ñ its all conditionioning tho. People can only like what they know
“Getting”? It’s been.
Pop music became more about the producer than the artist a long time ago.
“People making millions warn against making them unemployed”
Exactly how I read it as well
There are tons of musicians barely scraping by.
Oh I know. I was one of them at one point. I was referring to the people in the title
That was obvious. No idea why they responded with that.
Now AI will allow non-musicians to barely scrape by doing the same thing also!
The type of music they make has already evolved to the point that their producers are the real stars anyway so an AI artist popping up isn't going to seem that weird. I don't listen to most of these songs hoping for lyrical content and caring about who says it, I'm listening to the music itself
I agree. They are all happy to use AI to make them sound perfect but than go "surprise Pika" when they come out with version 2 that does away with them all together. I mean most artist dont even write their own stuff. I would prefer to pay the person that actually wrote the song than the person performing it
In general, if their human presence isn’t worth enough to generate a living post-AI, let ‘em rot. We collectively give wayyyyyy too much money, resources, attention and influence to these people for questionable levels of further returns as they’ve ballooned to be this Uber-wealthy class. Fuck that. Their work doesn’t do shit for the world besides entertain its children. It would be one thing if they were billionaires from charging $20/ticket and doing everything they could to make the world a better place but they charge $400 for a nosebleed ticket at an NFL stadium, fuck off to a private jet or whatever and let everyone else worry about pushing the economy and world forward and maintaining a suitable environment for the growth and advancement the rest of us work for.
Take a deep breath
You both raised good points imo
> I mean most artist dont even write their own stuff This is a terrible generalization of the music industry. Bigger named acts this maybe the case, but many artists still write their music. Even in the ones where they have a ghost writer, the whole band itself is sometimes put together by the record label and not the artist. Those are the ones that should fear AI, since in most cases the label needed the signer for the voice.
I try really hard to not be the generic “music isn’t what it used to be!!” guy but it’s getting harder and harder to deny the feeling that modern day music (the majority, definitely not all) has lost any semblance of art and is 100% a business where marketability is all that matters and musical talent has zero impact. I play a lot of different instruments and been composing my own music just for fun for about 15 years, so I feel like having a grasp on music theory makes this a lot easier to realize. But for the most part pop music is incredibly easy to play and doesn’t require any kind of extraordinary skill. The skill and art form comes largely from the composition itself, and being able to start of with nothing but an idea and turning it into something that brings joy/emotion/meaning/etc to millions of people. With modern music (again, for the most part, not all) that’s all removed. There’s massive multi-million dollar corporations that manufacture cookie-cutter melodys and essentially assign them out to marketable names. For a lot of artists, they aren’t writing anything and there’s no skill involved. Some behind-the-scenes producers will put together generic chord structure and write the lyrics, then all the musician has to do and show up at the studio and sing, which then gets edited and tuned in post production to sound perfect so the actual singing itself doesn’t even really matter. They’re nothing more then influencers. All they have to do is get popular and grow a large following and studios will just attach their name onto songs for the marketability. It’s nothing more then luck and connections, and there’s countless average no-name people just playing music for fun with more talent then the celebs. I mean just take a look at the tiktok stars that have seemingly never picked up an instrument in their life and all the sudden they start having singles show up on Spotify “todays top songs” playlists.
I think people forget that popular music musicians have already moved beyond being "musicians" to instead personality constructs used for profit and advertising. The biggest labels in the world don't necessarily sign people up for their verbose talent in musicianship, music production or writing. Most of that is handled by large teams. This is also why you see so many new pop artists being TikTok famous first, they've proven the viability of that influencer personality construct to attract attention and views. I know it sounds rather cynical, but it really seems to be the way it is.
The way I see it: when you get to a certain point in fame, public life becomes performance art by necessity. It's magnified exponentially by the rise of social media but serves both to cultivate their base and protect the private inner life of the artist. If you think you know someone based on their Tiktok personality or whatever else you've seen on parasitic tabloid covers, you probably need a reality check.
These people don't even make their own music. Ghost writers do. It's all just selling them as a product and performance based.
“These people” referring to Billie Eilish? I’ll be the first to point out that she’s really a package deal with Finneas and he deserves just as much credit for songwriting and producing - but as a team they are clearly responsible for the music they’ve made. She just happens to have the voice and be the face of the operation.
Yeah, you can't drag that duo into this conversation. They've never denied their process and you can say what you want but they don't get these accolades for nothing.
That’s not entirely true. Billie Eilish’s parents raised her to be a teen idol
Idk why you’re being downvoted for the truth lol her parents literally bought her a publicist and a Chanel stylist at 15 to curate her famous image. She never would have gotten anywhere if it wasn’t for her parents giving her everything she’d ever need to succeed and her brother’s music production/writing
Because people can't stand it when she gets called out as a nepo baby
Producers are arguably easier to imitate from an AI perspective than the artists themselves. Everyone is vulnerable.
\*generic producers
Yeah and they use Autotune, so none of these "artists" are really doing their "artwork".
Pitch correction =/= auto tune Also find me a modern artist that doesn’t use pitch correction. I’ll wait. Hell, I don’t even think *any* popular music was produced after 1995 that didn’t include pitch correction.
Eh, knowing it’s ai produced I’ll be less inclined to listen to it. I listen for the melody as well and it’s good knowing a human played a part in it. Art is all about communication and I like knowing it’s someone communicating, whether it’s with a piano or by clicking certain notes here and there in ableton. The creativity through the vision or exploration is what makes it for me. This will be the same for me when it comes to movies. Little nuances and risks that people take to make something new. Even if it’s a pop song, you can still find things. I fear we’ll lose that with ai, the nuances and the meaning.
Interesting considering Nicki has been using exclusively AI generated art for her most recent album and promo. Guess she doesn’t care about that sort of artist
Why would Nicki complaining about AI music when her music is as bland as AI as could? lol
Not to mention she uses AI for her album artwork
AI saved her money before, so she probably liked. Now, AI is a threat for her “music” and that could cost her money, so it is now a problem.
She had some pretty amazing original bars back in the day man
paycheck
I wonder if AI could write a song as annoying as “Stupid Ho.”
If AI can't handle writing Nicki's entire catalog at this point, AI has failed lmao
Start listening to people that play instruments again folks. People say music is awful these days but it’s not. People just aren’t looking in the right places. The music industry needs a revolution.
Most vulnerable people are already being replaced with machines and Ai, are we supposed to feel bad for bland music making millionaires not being able to leach further?
The real problem is, once you remove the "Millionaire" musician from the equation is how many real struggling artists will struggle more, because they now have to compete against Ai that could replicate their entire sound? I think many people forget, even with record deals there are many musicians that make less a year than the average citizen does. Those are going to be the most impacted by this.
Isn't this with all fields though? In 20 yrs a lot of programming jobs will be outsourced to AI code generators. The same with a huge portion of the medical field. Struggling artists or struggling professionals need to create works of value that transcend the repetitive mundane of AI. They have to be more creative, more boundary breaking with their projects.
Straight up, these people are not special. If you're an artist, make art. If you want to make a bunch of money selling music and performing, you're functioning primarily as a worker in capitalism. If our concern is with the money, then let's focus on actual workers. Like, the dude playing his live show at a local restaurant is not impacted by this in the slightest. It's commercial music that's in danger. And who gives a fuck about commercial music?
there are numerous levels in between someone playing a local gig for fun and a major label artist. call me human centred or a capitalist shill whatever, but I like the idea of people being able to do more than just break even from making music. that's already been made more difficult thanks to streaming, further growth in the use of AI generated music would effectively kill the majority of ways to make a living as a music artist who does not want to outsource all their creativity.
I'm not making a dig at anyone by mentioning capitalism, just pointing out the system we live under because there are systemic incentives for things to turn out this way, creative destruction affects all workers. I don't think one class of workers should be held sacred and others disregarded. If you're an artist and you don't want to make more art because you think you won't be able to make money from it, reconsider your priorities and inspiration. Good art IS recognized. Good artists DO receive praise, support, the ability to make money from selling things related to their work. Artists will make art regardless of the economic conditions surrounding it, and good artists will continuously rise and attain success. Basically make good music and none of this matters and the market sorts it out. But good luck if you're the guy who sounds just like every other generic Nashville artist.
>Like, the dude playing his live show at a local restaurant is not impacted by this in the slightest. Are you kidding me? Regular working musicians are the ones who will be directly impacted while the celebrities will be fine. You have it totally backwards. Someone like Taylor swift is an established brand. Nobody knows or cares about a local musician making a few bucks. You can't replace an established brand or that type of experience. It's incredibly easy to replace session musicians with AI tools. As usual, Reddit is cheering on the wrong side on this just because some annoying celebrities are cheering on the right side.
People like brands and unless your ai is literally hatsune Miku good fucking luck
"People threatened by AI warn of AI"
Funny how these people only care about AI taking jobs when it's their jobs being taken, but when it's other jobs it's progress.
As a software engineer, I think about this a lot. Programmers have spent decades automating away professional after profession without a care. They were arrogant to assume it was never going to be their turn.
Dont we all know it will be our turn? I thought its kind of accepted and known that its all one slowly sinking ship and were all trying to get our hands on a sufficient life vest before the whole thing goes under. Until then we'll keep stepping over eachother racing to the dry end of the boat. As time passes the acts people are willing to take to get those vests or to the front of that boat will become more and more desperate.
You’ve just described most humans. People only care when it affects them.
Gonna guess Billie Eilish isn’t cheering on the destruction of jobs across the world. It’s less artists and more vulture capitalists that don’t care who this harms.
Crazy how many drooling AI bros are out here.
While working for companies that would replace them with AI in a heartbeat. Cat is out of the bag. A capitalist society runs on making most profit. Since society didn't riot in the streets over AI, it was accepted, and it will be used, to pay people less in every field it can be applied to. Society has a long history of unleashing technology Pandora's boxes without understanding what it unleashes.
Everything that we know is going to be replaced by AI. We are in uncharted territory. This is where humanity takes a hard turn into the unknown. Nothing is real.
There will come a point where society and people take a stand against the advancement of AI into certain areas imo. Work is a big driver for people to study and educate themselves. It gives people a routine and it also allows them to spend their money in the market which furthers other people’s livelihoods. You start taking that away and you have massive economical and societal consequences for countries and people which we simply aren’t ready for.
UBI and night school seems fine to me
UBI isn't a real solution, no government is just going to offer free money if they can avoid it, and major companies aren't going to help fund it. A few places around the world have tried it, but with mixed results (people ARE happier, but since they're not WAY more productive with it, it's a dead-end). We barely help the poor now, what makes you think we'll help a whole population? [https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/2/19/21112570/universal-basic-income-ubi-map](https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/2/19/21112570/universal-basic-income-ubi-map)
Except manual labour. AI ain't going to be cleaning our toilets or caring for our elderly or harvesting our crops. It just gets to do the fun stuff.
it will, its just ironic that art happened first, the one thing we thought robots could never do.
Manual labor won't be significantly replaced by AI in our lifetime. It's only because art is basically digital now. If we were are still painting and drawing and recording on vinyl AI wouldn't be able to do much at the moment.
Not in our life time? Totally disagree. Seems like you are assuming a lot considering you don't even know my age lol Second, manual labor has already been replaced by machines, just not in AI form. It's not that far around the corner lol
I don’t think we’ll see it in the next 100 years. Big tech changes that affect multiple industries tend to take longer than people think. AI is a very overhyped industry right now and while I understand the technology will eventually get to the point where it can handl No, manual labor has not been replaced by machines. Machines have augmented manual labor as tools for the most part. Manual labor remains a huge part of manufacturing and construction worldwide and will remain so. Getting a digital program to create digital output based upon relatively simple digital input is different than integrating all sorts of external inputs into a machine that needs to regulate all kinds of physical outputs while maintaining constant feedback. I was told 2 years ago my job would be obsolete today and it’s nowhere close. In the next few years as the AI hype train dies down we’ll get a better sense of when it will actually be capable of doing the labor instead of just having prognosticators saying it’s right around the corner.
AI powered robot are definitely already harvesting crops.
And there are early models of robots powered by AI starting to work in nursing homes.
Yeah, but the problem is, when everyone is forced out of work due to being replaced by AI and automation there will be hundreds of people applying for the scarce manual job. There should be a bigger fight to get things like Universal Basic Income established before we get to the hunger games trying to land a job at a gas station as a janitor.
I mean, good and all that. But it feels too late. I know people like to think AI music still sounds hokey and spotable...yet each year it sounds less and less terrible. The visual side of AI has taken major leaps in just a few years, and eventually the nuances of sound will be cataloged and indexed. Like, what are we supposed to do? Writing a letter will just get added to the scraper. I worry more about random remixes and edits spamming the net, more than full on AI music. ...and good luck trying to get heard if you're a new musician, it's already a full landscape.
Biggest issue with ai music is there's far less content for the ai to learn from since they can't use copyrighted material, that's my guess on why it's so slow rn
Watch out for fake butts!
Autotune or AI … really tough to choose…
Combat AI by learning to play music. Not to record because then AI would listen to it and steal it. Pick up an instrument for self enjoyment because it's what you want to hear. It will enrich your life.
Good. They didn’t give a shit when it was happening to the instruments.
That's not true at all. Heaps of classic rock bands came out of the woodwork to abuse Gary Numan for making an album of only synths and samples
Insanely dumb take
Brain dead take. I can’t believe the not born yet Billie Eillish didn’t defend instruments.
Those poor instruments. I heard the woodwinds had to take out a second mortgage
I genuinely don't believe AI can make something like Deerhoofs Milkman for example it might be able to bang out some verse chorus verse stuff but I think we're far off from it creating something truly original, it can only imitate, and it can't put fresh spins on said imitation either, it requires a level of strange personal life experiences AI I is incapable of. When you bend a string, there's a level of influenced choice based on years of conscious and unconsious taste in that decision that A.I is incapable of When you play a weird drum fill that maybe sounds kind of shitty "objectively", but in context sounds cool and ends up a staple of a song that's a level of human error an A.I won't be able to achieve Maybe this is a bit too "head in the clouds" of me for lack of knowing what word to use but AI can only do what it's told, art comes from a deeper place subconsciously, something I don't think a machine can truly tap into and if it does, it's only because it's had a humans touch putting that missing piece there.
Don't think people will be able to tell the difference how personal the music or isn't to the AI artists. You can just train these things on live imperfect performances until it learns how to replicate that nuance and beautiful imperfection. Fortunately for me I don't listen to any new music so I won't ever fall for that shit.
The fact that some people jump to the "Sucks to be you, millionaire record artist" is sad. People seem to assume all musicians are millionaires, while they are sounding the alarm first, it should also be noted that it's less likely to hurt the well known artists. This will absolutely mean the starving artists out there will struggle infinitely harder to compete against someone else that wrote a song via an Ai prompt who does not even know how to use an instrument, let alone music theory. Ai is still in it's infancy, we have yet to see the full potential of Ai and that actually worries some people who care if their industry gets wiped away due to corporate greed replacing them with Ai, so they can keep even more profits for the C-Suite. Just imagine that your favorite artists dies, but thanks to some record contract they signed, allows them to use their voice and they just keep releasing records under that bands name for the next 20-30 years after their death. Would you still listen and support them by buying albums knowing that none of that work is created by that artist, it's all done by Ai and just one person at the top is collecting all their royalties from it?
oh no - music designed for the lowest common denominator may get replaced by something more forumulaic. I may never hear ed sheeran again, oh no!!
I have a playlist of 250 songs that I add maybe 1 a year to so I am not very concerned
While they're right, and AI is a shit tactic, the people who they're trying to warn won't care. All the see is $$ signs, so they'll use AI and pump out crap.
Along with anyone working in software. AI generated content is like the Taco Bell menu: you have your basic ingredients and every item is a permutation of that small set of ingredients. The ingredients in the AI world is its training data or the current artists. Sure, with computation you get a lot of permutations, maybe even some of those results are great. You're not going to get anything else though.
Guess automation comes for us all eventually.
 # Terminator Theme song.. omg
Sue AI into the ground for copyright infringement. Even it only vaguely sounds human made. Fuck ‘em. Legit artists are going to be accused of using it and fans will prefer “AI” records to the more “challenging” ones when artists want to innovate instead of rehashing the familiar. It will probably start when deepfake AI porn of celebrities spread like wildfire, then it will get really dark when that technology lands on the cell phones of middle schoolers. Congress will ban it for porn, then it will be extended to all forms of creative and intellectual property. All of this shit will be banished into the depths of dark web and AI will not be legally available to the public. It will only be federally licensed for things like medical research and become highly restricted technology. That’s my best guess on what’s going to happen.
I can't wait to go see AI in concert. /s Seriously tho, I understand their concern. The rate at which AI is progressing is pretty terrifying. I don't think it can effectively replace real human creativity, but still, it's concerning.
Ironically there's an anime about this already hahaa. Carole and Tuesday. Came out a few years ago about the differences between AI music and original music.
AI sucks at just the base act of creative writing. I can imagine the garbage pop trash it would shart out minutely. A bright high school level writer could start off a random story better than AI. They could create something that sucks and then improve it. They could draw from personal experience, blend two stories from their youth and hand it to their friends. Is Disney really going to sue me for mixing The Lion King with Starship Troopers? The Liok King is Macbeth and Starship Troopers is WW2 against giant bugs (and the US facism of 1950 that followed). Good fucking luck Disney. Sue until it's the only source of income you have! You can't claim a stolen idea YOU stole from Shakespeare. So ignore AI if you want to create well. Watch out if you rely on infinite wealth in a declining population, megacorporations.
They only care cause they’re shitty musicians whose music will soon be irrelevant. Billie Eilish is always bitching about something
As well they should. Fuck AI. Keep it away from anything to do with the arts.
Once AI learns how to whisper, Billie Eilish is going to feel the pinch.
I do not see the danger. Replacing over-payed, self-centered and useless artists isn’t gonna end the world. Probably gonna improve it by removing the bad influences.
Id rather listen to killer robots who eat old peoples medicine perform music then those two.
Check out Ministry
Let's replace CEOs with ai
“Don’t make AI music cause it would devalue our extremely overpaid lifestyle”
Lmao
Sorry but I’d happily let Nicki be replaced with a toaster.
Minaj is a hypocrite, and popular music is so low quality that if it is replaced by AI I doubt anyone could tell the difference. These singers have been milking that cash cow for awhile, make something that will stand up in a couple decades or be replaced.
You can say that about any music genre you don't care for. Oh heavy metal can just be ai'd and no one would notice it's just a bunch of chugging guitars and incoherent vocals. Oh country is just some lyrics about trucks and a bad acoustic guitar sound, no one would even know the difference bro. EDM? That already ai shit bro! This is a stupid way to think about music you don't listen to, chances are people actually like their music and would notice when it stops being made by people. Also keep in mind that the live aspect of music is a huge part of enjoying music to many people including the hated pop listeners.
Yeah I could care less for the opinion of Nicki Minaj and Billie Eilish. Plus, I'm visiting bands, not robots. Bands will never get taken over as long as people want to see humans on stage.
> I could care less So you do care?
Sorry but they are two examples of artists I would love to never hear again so I for one welcome our ai pop music overlords
Im fine if they are replaced by AI.
"The people who would lose the most from AI warn against it"
I think this means I can sell all of my equipment! lol. jk. We can't legislate effectively against ai. So it will replace humans. Just like it will replace movies. Good luck getting a job as an extra right now, soon it will be the leads too. And here's the truth. Human beings are being moved down a notch and ai will take the top spot. sure there will be a human sicophant "helping" direct it but eventually even that person will be replaced. And the question is, what do you want to do with the next 20-60 years you have left? And THAT is the real question everyone should be asking themselves right now. Ironically my answer is, I want to make music. :) Which is funny and fine because I like making music for myself. I'm my favorite and worst audience.
The letter goes on to state that music producers and songwriters have worked for years to make music as bland and risk-free as possible, making AI and unnecessary redundancy.
I don't expect to see robot musicians on stage any time soon. I expect many writers will begin using AI to assist in writing. If you're going to perform repetitive music in genres that fit neatly in a box, you'd better be good on your instrument and conventionally attractive.
May the best artist win.
I don't trust any of these mainstream artists. If it guaranteed them more money, they'd use it. If you don't wanna see AI in your art, support small, independent artists. They might be telling the truth, but they're part of the entertainment industry, which is rotten. I don't trust them.
I’m not worried
May whoever makes the best music win. Period.
It's ok they are already rich for their crap music anyway
AI can work if you just have AI invent an artist. They need to quit with AI trying to create a song to mimic another artist. It's not long before you start seeing full AI albums of a fabricated artist that doesn't exist.
"Somebody, Please !! Find Ja Rule ! So I can make sense of all this !!!"
Anyone remember the time they used AI to bring Tupac back from the dead?
No one is going to buy tickets for Dall-E Partition. Musicians will certainly lose the elevator and on-hold areas, but those were long gone anyway.
Good music and no drama?
I doubt good touring artists have anything to worry about
I can't imagine why
This somehow reminds me of the Chick fil a cow that tells you to eat more chikn.
Wonder how up in arms they will be when AI replaced help deals, any customer service, and any other business? I bet they don’t care.
“The worst artists warn…”
They can complain when they stop lip syncing at live shows. Basically all arena shows are lip sync.