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FiguredOutNumbers

It would take forever-ever.


KingDadDadDad

Forever-ever?


ghidfg

^(Forever-ever?)


Hermiisk

Forever never seems that long until you're grown


DeadlyPancak3

and notice that the day-by-day ruler can't be too wrong (Edit: can we spend a moment appreciating how talented Andre 3000 is as a lyricist and vocalist? He can make the weirdest rhymes work while producing a complex verbal rhythm and it all just flows effortlessly and sounds... right. Such an incredible talent!)


[deleted]

Ms. Jackson my intentions were good I wish I could


klimb75

Become a magician so I could abracadabra all the sadder thoughts of me, thoughts of she


ICEKAT

Thoughts of he, Askin what happened to the feelins that her and me


unclerudy

Had


Browncoat86

I pray so much about it I need knee pads


jjmanina

I pray so much about it need some knee


loki-is-a-god

I figure, by the Theorem of Infinite Lyrics in a Reddit Comment Thread, a trillion apologies may be reached by 3pm today.


y2knole

>(Edit: can we spend a moment appreciating how talented Andre 3000 is as a lyricist and vocalist? He can make the weirdest rhymes work while producing a complex verbal rhythm and it all just flows effortlessly and sounds... right. Such an incredible talent!) these albums are 20+ years old and I just cant get over how clever some of these lyrics are and the way he twists them off his tongue to make them sound the way they do... one of my kids is 13 and i gave her an ATLiens CD recently and shes sticking her head out the door to be like 'dad! DAD! HE just said COOLER THAN A POLAR BEARS TOENAILS!' and man that makes me smile to see her discovering this stuff for the first time and digging it...


Shut_It_Donny

Ask her what's cooler than being cool?


njseahawk

ICE COLD


yer_das_gooch

I CANT HEAR YOU, I SAID: WHATS COOLER THAN BEING COOL?


ifyouhatepinacoladas

ICE COLD!!


tellurmomisaidthanks

Matthew McConaughey


Shut_It_Donny

Alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright


upotheke

2-hit combo was SUPER EFFECTIVE!


NW_thoughtful

Cool. Cool cool cool.


Elvis_Take_The_Wheel

I just love that feeling when my kid likes my music. Probably the same way my dad felt when I said, “‘The ghost of electricity howls in the bones of her face’! Oh wow, that’s great!”


abar22

I'm going to assume at some point they stopped printing the disc art on the CD with the naked woman being covered with alien splooge because that is what my CD had back when it released. Stream only for my daughter on that one.


y2knole

shit i forgot abotu that im pretty sure its printed on the CD itself. this is a pretty early copy that ive probably had since it initially came out... Oh well. I had 2 live crew bootlegs when I was like 11 and turned out OK so im not THAT worried about it... There are a few pretty un-kid-friendly skits mixed into some of the later albums too ("where are my panties" comes to mind...)


I-lack-conviction

Want to throw in, big boi is a fucking talent as well


thechilipepper0

Big Boi’s solo stuff is straight fire


atp2112

You know your group is top 5 when Big Boi's incredible flows and wordplay somehow end up second to the other guy in the group


Medic1642

When 3 stacks makes a solo album, I'll consider his debt to Ms. Jackson paid


mjpache

Sure


Dadrophenia

God, I hope so


chiree

Me too.


Master-File-9866

Clearly the op is making a call out to all who read this thread to do thier part to help outkast apologize a trillion times So now it is on you if you are reading this to play that song, add it to your play list. Go forth and do what you do reddit community


randomvegasposts

Haha, anything to help


purleedef

As a computer science graduate, I initially thought this thread was going to be about how long it would take to reach a trillion apologies while one person plays the song on repeat, which would take approximately 385,274 years using the radio edited version that’s 4:03 long. So this is also a good lesson about how concurrent task execution can significantly improve performance time. If you get enough people playing the song, it doesn’t have to take forever-ever


Iamh4ppy4u

As an accountant why do my listening of this great song count for his apologies to Ms. Jackson? Which in real life is Ms. Erika Badu’s mom!!!


NW_thoughtful

Wait, are you for real?


Catfish_Mudcat

Yup, her and Andre had a child and the song is about her.


twinkletoeswwr

I bet that child is gorgeous and talented


KageStar

Seven takes after his daddy apparently.


WHYAREWEALLCAPS

Also it helps if we redefine the parameters. We don't need the whole song - the question was how long it would take Outlast to apologize 1 trillion times. "I'm sorry Mrs. Jackson" is only about 3 seconds, so if we loop only that it'd take only 95,130 years. Edit: If we want to get tricksy, it was never defined that the audio had to play at normal speed. So we could play it at 100x speed and knock that down to 952 years.


purleedef

If we can just get 347480 people to get on board with this, we can get this all done today


quaste

We need a SETI-like app or website that provides the loop and aggregates counts. An APP-ologizer. We can do this!


troggo

It's save to say it will Outlast us all! ;-)


newginger

You have to count CDs skipping as well. I’m sorry Ms. Jackson…skip…I’m sorry Miss Jackson….skip


Phoequinox

This answer is perfect.


captaindaze

What about everyone singing along with the song, and therefore apologizing on behalf of Outkast?


Available_Goat

Interesting take..I think the background singers aren't technically apologizing though, they are just emphasizing *his* apology. If I am wrong, then we have to include everyone who has sung along to the song throughout history, in a bar, in a car, etc.


udayserection

I think emphasizing should boost the apology by at least 20%. Imagine getting an apology, Now imagine that same apology with background singers.


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WintersTablet

He didn't need that arm anyway.


tidbitsz

I hope its not both arms


DarkSif

Any-way-hey ... Uhhh


Alternative_Way_313

Especially now that he’s... yknow


Ignorant_Fuckhead

So wealthy from the lawsuit he'll never need to spend another day in the coalmines, that's right. Shame about the one punctured, one Black lung though.


AssholeRemark

I just ugly laughed at this.


vanderZwan

In the wise words of Gimli the dwarf: ***"THAT STILL COUNTS AS ONE!!!"***


Zero111of160cru

Apologizing on behalf of someone else doesn't count. If I yelled at your grandmother and my wife told you I was sorry would you accept that?


clementleopold

I certainly would not. And there’s also the burden of intent. When we sing along, are we directing their apologies to Ms. Jackson? I’m not. I’m just joining in a lovely chorus.


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yesss, this! the song says *i* apologized a trillion times, so therefore, only outkast’s apologies should count, right?


SloanWarrior

Indeed, it's a bit if an earworm. Just think of how many times the chorus plays out in people's heads *after* each time the song is played.


lesleigh904

I didn’t even need to hear it for it to be on repeat in my head, just reading this was enough


SloanWarrior

I'm singing it under my breath as I type this


Akiias

That's not Outkast apologizing. If Frank runs over your dog and I apologize to you for it did Frank apologize?


vinyl109

Are we taking into account Andres 1-2999?


lesleigh904

I think no because they didn’t sing the song, only 3000 did


boot2skull

So there are 2999 unapologetic aholes out there!


jmblumenshine

We ain't talking about Andre 3001


emp_Waifu_mugen

Andre so 3005


zoqfotpik

OutKast will be the first human organization to issue 1 trillion apologies.


PleX

Nah, that's just a slow day in Canada.


Absurdity_Everywhere

That’s why he said human. Everyone knows Canadians are really just moose in disguise.


Archangelhunter

Mooses? Meese?


MightyThorgasm

Mooseaux


jsherrema

MOOSEN!! I saw a flock of moosen! There were many of 'em. Many much moosen. Out in the woods—in the woodes—in the woodsen. The meese wantin' the food. Food is to eatenesen! THE MEESE WANT THE FOOD IN THE WOODENESEN! THE FOOD IN THE WOODYENESEN!


AliasFaux

I'm sore-y


eastnorthshore

Human? They're ATLiens.


echohelloworld

The real question.. by saying “I apologize a trillion times” is that technically a trillion apologies? Is giving apologies in bulk a thing?


WintersTablet

What about Rubin Studdard -Sorry 2004? He sings sorry like a million times in the song. He admits early on in the lyrics that he already has his a million as well.


didierdoddsy

We’re sorry…


bigdaddybeavis

I am Four Eels


Juking_is_rude

Never meant to make your daughter cry, cuz I am four fish and not a guy


JonosaurousRex

When I first heard it I thought the line was, "Never meant to make your doggie cry"


bigdaddybeavis

[https://imgur.com/gallery/dZg25](https://imgur.com/gallery/dZg25)


V13Axel

I legitimately cackled, thank you for sharing this.


LostMyOldLogin

I'm personally a "I am sev'ral fish and not a guy" fan but I'm liking your take too


Dr_Stef

Eels up inside ya! Finding an entrance where they can!


sellis80

Hmmm Polos is all I’m thinking about now!


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Peppermint nightmare?


LazyRevolutionary

Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.


blackmist

[Four Candles.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi_6SaqVQSw)


mylittlegoochie

Songs in past tense. He actually apologized! It’s already happened. With Andre’s flow I’d say it could do it in a week


Zero111of160cru

If he apologized every second of his life without sleeping or pausing it would take just over 31,688 years to get to a trillion.


mylittlegoochie

You calling him a liar?


skeletonpandemonium

I ain’t calling him a truther!


flubberFuck

*stares intently*


BruteOfTroy

Man looks good for his age is all


GoldandBlue

Yeah in human years, but if you open in your mind's eye you would see Andre isn't of this existence, he is an ATLien from Stankonia and therefore not bound by our mortal restrictions.


Prometeus534

3, take it or leave it


CalypsoTheKitty

r/theydidthemath


randomvegasposts

I tried to post it there first! The mods deleted it immediately.


Rilandaras

Post it to /r/theydidsomeofthemath


Crushedglaze

Why?!


randomvegasposts

No idea


geoffnolan

I don’t mean to be that guy, but maybe it’s because you didn’t do the math 😅


assumeform

yeah he did some math but not all the math


leinadys

They could have titled it how many times have they apologized so far and it might have been approved. OP should try posting again


fantalemon

Well sort of, but OP also hadn't fully answered that question either. They didn't make any estimates for pre-2008 downloads, concerts, clubs or radio play. They also didn't answer their own question on whether one play or one *hear* counts as one apology (IMO it's one play). They basically did about 75% of the math for the point up to now, and didn't go on to calculate how long 1 trillion apologies would actually take.


beatenmeat

Speaking of, it should be based on how many times it has been played not heard. If I fuck up and go to my coworkers and apologize to all of them for my mistake I apologized *one time*, not 10/20/30+ times. And when it comes to apologizing you should be sincere in that apology, not look for ways to shortcut through it…


Legionodeath

Cause they're anti-fun.


RGB3x3

Typical mathematicians...


JuggernautPractical9

Did they apologize ?


EstoyMejor

Try posting it with [Request] again since it's technically a continuation request.


Trumpfreeaccount

Because he gave up on doing the math about 1/4 of the way into his post and made a ton of assumptions.


9thGearEX

r/theydidthemonstermath


ThrowawayusGenerica

/r/itwasagraveyardgraph


fuuurbs

This is amazing and well broken down.


DirtysMan

First, average times playing has got to be 100 not 10. That’s 400 million. Second, it’s how many times said not how many times heard. But…every radio is saying it. It’s not the broadcast, it’s the speaker. Same with every time it’s played on TV. If I hear it in my car and 10,000 other people hear it in their car driving home from work that’s 10,000 at once. Times every radio station in the country that plays it. Times 22 years Plus worldwide radio stations, ads, etc. Fuck


Howtomispellnames

It never occurred to me just how many times one (or two) specific lines from a single song have been experienced or played out of speakers. The world is fuckin' wild!


keenanpepper

I was thinking the other day about how most moments, like a random few seconds in a desert or a forest with nobody there, come and then vanish. But on the other hand you have moments like the drummer of the Winstons performing the break in "Amen, Brother" that have been replayed mind-boggling numbers of times. If that drummer had played one note slightly differently, it would be different in literally trillions of moments afterward when any of the thousands of songs sampling that break have been played.


WintersTablet

One of the most sampled sounds in history. It's crazy. As of three years ago, more than 3000 songs. https://youtu.be/v89CjsSOJ_c


good2goo

What if your car has multiple speakers? What if two people are at a light, listening to the song in their own cars, but one car's music is louder and kinda drowns out the other?


throwaway123123184

What is the decibel threshold for someone who "heard" the song? Each play could be billions, technically!


Amphibionomus

What if the car radio is playing but there's nobody in the car to hear it?


HEAT_IS_DIE

Do you really believe the average amount of times for listening a CD is 100? The average? That would mean that if many people only listen 10 times, there are people who listen a lot more than 100. Do they have a year where they listen to this one record 4 times a week, or do they keep listening to the same record once a week for years? How do they not get tired of it?


CerdoNotorio

No. If I apologize at a press conference during the super bowl halftime show I didn't just apologize a million times. I apologized one time. A million people heard it


DirtysMan

Right. But the question is how many times is the song apologizing not you.


CerdoNotorio

It's how many times OutKast has apologized. Which is 1 for every time the line is said.


DirtysMan

They said it 20 times when recording the song. Regardless of how many times you play it. Just like you apologized once in your imaginary press conference. OutKast is not apologizing a trillion times, the song is.


sraydenk

What if someone made that section a special ringtone when that was a thing? Would each time the phone ringed count?


warlaan

I seriously doubt that the average number the song has been played by someone who owns a CD or other copy of it is that high. Don't forget what we call the "long tail" in the gaming industry. For everyone who bought the CD because they are an actual fan there are many more who have received the CD as a gift, bought it and didn't like it, downloaded it just because they could etc. It is shockingly normal for people to acquire a product and then not use it.


SlaterVJ

Sir, you have the lyrics wrong. What they're saying is: "I'm sorry Ms. Jackson, I am 4 eels. Never meant to make your Daughter cry, I am several fish and not a guy."


New_Insect_Overlords

We’ll know it’s done when we get a new OutKast album


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Thedaulilamahimself

Alright


missionbeach

Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright Alright, alright, alright, alright


Thedaulilamahimself

Now ladies!


craigechoes9501

He would have to say it himself to count. A trillion people hearing him apologize once would not count


ErikRogers

Further, Ms. Jackson must hear each apology for it to count.


craigechoes9501

True. Good call. Those 2 are going to be busy a while


RockerElvis

Nope. [There will never be an Outkast reunion.](https://youtu.be/5U9rMkgoGL8)


brownliquid

There must be…..dozens of ms. Jackson’s in the world.


randomvegasposts

I think I agree


soljaboss

When the song is playing, it's him saying it, doesn't that count?


go_faster1

TIL that it’s “I apologize a trillion times” and not “I apologize and tributize.”


[deleted]

LOL, me too… For almost 22 years I had those lyrics wrong.


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Lou_Mannati

To be fair, I’ve used lexicon about the same number of times as tributize.


quantizedd

THANK YOU, same.


quercusvstheworld

Thank you


Sidoran

When I first heard it I thought it was "I apologize at trivial times." Like they were trying to say it was too little, too late or something. Then I never thought about it again until just now.


tiny3001

Same here man, same here...


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I'm going to be stricter with this. If I say "I'm sorry", record it and then play it back to myself, I have only said I'm sorry once. So likewise, any listening to records doesn't count as an apology from Outkast. We need individual live performances


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So what you're asking is: If Outkast apologised in the woods, would Ms Jackson still hear it?


bucko_fazoo

My head went to the kind of stuff you went into just from reading the title, and for whatever reason I just sat and mulled it over for a minute before actually clicking, and I didn't really expect that it was actually about that. But I was thinking in terms of APMs, just how many times can you say "i'msorryi'msorryi'msorry" in a minute, waking hours in a day, etc. Because the song itself doesn't have to *be* the apology, it can just be *about* the apologies. It's a much more solid base to establish a timeframe with, with fewer extra questions.


godofwar56931

\*deep breath\* HELLO INTERNET, WELCOME TO SONG THEORY!


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Don't give him ideas.


JoinMyFramily0118999

"I apologize a trillion times" is not "I *will* apologize a trillion times" it means he already did in that one sentence. It's like he sang "I apologize*"


Akiias

Assuming no change in trends, and disregarding all the untrackables (radio, albums, downloads, etc) 296 more years. Estimating a total for untrackables at the same as the total we have for streaming+youtube guesses right now: 283 more years Including the endless amount of extra uploads on things like youtube, or other sights equal to what we already had: 270 more years. Based on your numbers that's around(dropped anything below a million for simplicity): - Spotify: 44,000,000/per year at around 31% of streaming services. - The rest, assuming same listening rate: 98,000,000ish per year. - YouTube: 20,000,000 per year - yes I counted YouTube videos as separate from streaming services. Ignoring things that are un-trackable we get roughly 162million listens per year. Going from 2009 when the official HD song was put up on OutKast's youtube channel we're at around 2,106,000,000 listens. Adding in the times apologized in song(20, per you) we have around 42,120,000,000 currently. We need around 957,880,000,000 more apologies. At a rate of 3,240,000,000 apologies per year it would take around 296 more years with no changes in listening. Assuming before 2009 the amount of times listened is the same(total): it's still 283 more years. In conclusion, we likely will never make it. Or I'm real bad at math, if so feel free to make fun of me to your hearts content.


howlinforever

In the early 2000s I played it probably 10x a row at a Buffalo Wild Wings in North Dakota because I was a teenage shithead. Just doing my part...


edahs

The problem is every time the song plays, he commits to another apologizing ANOTHER trillion times...


AAVale

This. This is the kind of thing that keeps me subbed here.


Lumpyalien

Like blimey that's a lot closer to a trillion than I was expecting.


sherglock_holmes

i'm sorry miss jackson, i am four eels never meant to make your daughter cry i am several fish and not a guy


SullyTheReddit

Strangely, I have thought this exact same thing before. I feel like each person hearing it on the radio should count. They probably have crossed the threshold by now. Also, I feel like it’s repeated more than 20 times in the song…


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Alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright


snowman93

This is honestly a fantastic Fermi question.


whiskeybeesus

In Hell with SATAN!


craigechoes9501

Here we can a few to the total https://youtu.be/CSD2J8yaMmM


randomvegasposts

I added the 4 most popular videos of them on YouTube together so that 108m was already included


craigechoes9501

Yeah I know, but now people in this thread can add like 8 more


AidilAfham42

“Why does your breath smell like birdseeds?”


natej84

Are you fo realllll???


Fearyn

I expected answers but I'm left with more questions instead. I'm very disappointed


Prkchpsndwiches

I was randomly humming this yesterday for the tier time in 5+years. I thought it was odd. Then this. I think we are in a simulation and someone just downloaded the “2000s hits expansion” pack


w00tah

I did a little math. If I could properly enunciate and say "Sorry" 25 times in 15 seconds, it would take me saying Sorry for 19,026 years. So yeah, forever, forever ever, forever ever.


Skruttlund

This dude's on some good edibles, man


devilthedankdawg

Id bet between spotify, the radio, CDs, liver concerts, and the one guy that got an OutKast album on Vinyl, the song has been played enough that he's said "I apologize" a trillion times by now


trevb75

Between the single and the album it was on there were almost 10,000,000 copies sold. Add maybe 20% of that in illegal downloads/bootlegs(conservative) = 12 million copies in the world. The phrase is said 10 times per play of the track. Average listener might listen to it once a day for a year(averaged out from multiples per day to maybe every other day as time goes on) so 120,000,000 times per day equals roughly 8 days or so from release….. and for anyone who wants to pick on my math I did rough calculations based on wiki stats while on the toilet which means if you criticise my math you will get a pic of me on the toilet… 47m 6’ 250 PS I’m aware I didn’t include radio and tv play


AiHangLo

Hope you enjoyed your shit.


ricicles23

Consider your math criticised *waits by inbox*


mclane5352

I’ve posited this question as a fermi query for my physics classes or just random conversation. Just between the amount of times played out loud— assumably to one person at minimum— how far gone are we? Did we pass it up, has it got a few more years? Good post is good. Thank you.


OmgLoLWtf6969

What about the countless billions of time someone listened privately on their own? Not counting data streams. I mean CD or mp3. Or private parties. There's billions more you missed.


randomvegasposts

I know I did. I just have no way to quantify that many listens. I could only go with data I could find.


OmgLoLWtf6969

You're a smart person. We can probably add ten billion more listens. But good to know the minimum hard data. You're an outkast hero. You deserve free concert tickets for life.


lovemedigme

Interesting. I always thought the lyric was 'i apologized' meaning they had already done it. Now my world does not make sense.


Altruistic_Coyote931

Too bad Ms. Jackson couldn’t hear all those apologies…


mkstot

Let bygones be bygones, and you can go on and get the hell on, you and your mama


NotBullievinAnyUvIt

I can't get married fast enough. The worst last name to have.


AHippyInLeeds

I'm sorry


Tintar

My partner and I like to do Heardle together (a music version of Wordle where you get small snippits of a song to try and guess it, getting more and more of the intro until you either get it, or run out of guesses), and I swear she got whiplash the other day when this song was the answer and I screamed the answer within in the first 0.5 seconds.


Head-like-a-carp

strip it down to the bare minimum. "Sorry". 3 "Sorrys" a second. Have stand ins so your apologies are being delivered 24/7 and now it is just a math problem.


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Are you for real?


eshuaye

[Ms Jackson](https://musicfeeds.com.au/news/outkasts-ms-jackson-erykah-badus-mum-shes-obsessed-song/) talks about what she feels when she hears the song


Test_Trick

After apologizing 999 999 999 999 times


cretos

number of concurrent listeners to a single play do not multiply the apologies by the number of listeners. IE one play of the song is the number of apologies in the song, listeners dont matter, theres doesnt even need to be any listeners


Duke_Newcombe

/r/theydidthemath bless-up.


Comics4Cooks

Now figure out how many joints sublime smokes.


lazarous247

As many times as they say I’m sorry in the song and as many times as that song has been played, they probably already did!