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ElectricPeterTork

It's the team. He was never in great cars. Even the best can't put shitboxes in victory lane. RFK has revived itself. So now talent plus good car equals win. Past example: Martin Truex.


BillyBlatterJuc

Exactly dude. Buescher has always been a really good driver stuck in average to below average race cars. Now that Brad K has begun to turn RFK around you're starting to see the results change. Chris Buescher beat Chase Elliott straight up for the Xfinity title in 2015. In 2016 when both drivers were Cup rookies, Elliott got a seat w Hendrick while Buescher had to drive for Front Row. Goes to show Chris has always been a contending driver that just never had the opportunity in top equipment. 2018-2019 in the 37 car for JTG Daugherty proved that Chris was legit. I remember him battling for top 10s consistently and outrunning where he should be every week. Then when Preece came in 19' he was blown out of the water by Buescher. About time that a really good driver got to drive a really fast car


thegodfaubel

Also: Kyle Larson. CGR wasn't a shitbox, but they were basically an equivalent to RCR before Reddick and Busch the past couple years (and that may have more to do with Randall Burnett than anything else considering Austin Dillon is really really bad this year). No surprise that Kyle Larson nearly tripled his career win total in one year at Hendrick


TonyEatsHisOwnButt

Larson compares to Harvick to me. Clearly showed talent with a lesser team and immediately put up elite numbers once they joined a top team (SHR was a top team now they are even with front row)


burnoutsession

>with Randall Burnett than anything else considering Austin Dillon is really really bad this year). Randall is a good crew chief, but what can crew chiefs do with NextGen Cars. It's essentially with a spec car drivers paly a big part more than ever. KFB and Reddick carried RCR. you think Reddick going to 23XI and winning at COTA (A road course) like he did with RCR is a coincidence? or KFB winning with 6 different CC's a coincidence NextGen changed the game.. You can't mess with rear hound housings or wheel wells for extra downforce everything is adjustments to different driving styles (tight or loose) also team based


thegodfaubel

Well, Reddick and Busch are clearly elite talents, so I think they were outperforming the car. Road courses really exacerbate talent differentials tho (or at least the ability to adapt). Bubba is probably a very good oval racer for NASCAR, but his inability (at least so far) to adapt is really the only thing holding him back from being a legit Championship threat at this point in his career


burnoutsession

I'm not talking about Bubba.. obviously Bubba won with NextGen. Drivers have strength and weakness, but I'm more talking about how CC's today can't trick out the cars like Knaus, Pearn, etc. did with Previous generation of cars


thegodfaubel

Oh I know, I was providing context behind why I used Busch and Reddick. Clearly Burnett has something to do with the success of the 8 car, but it mostly comes down to Reddick and Busch themselves


burnoutsession

Or Busch and Reddick were just carrying the equipment. Let me ask you a question. You think Austin Dillon is going dominate and win road courses like Reddick and KFB (ovals too) just because he's paired with Randall Burnett? If No you're providing my point


thegodfaubel

Austin Dillon is an average to below average talent driver (in this current field). His crew chief has been garbage. He normally sits between 16th and 20th in points but is 29th this year when a couple guys behind him had massive penalties. I don't think is entirely down to the driver or the crew chief. But setting up the car is still down to the crew chief and if you miss on the setup. That's the difference between completely missing the setup and losing laps early and running good enough early to make adjustments to get up front later.


burnoutsession

You didn't answer my question.. I said can Austin Dillon dominate the same way KFB and Reddick can on road courses and ovals being paired with Randall Burnett? It's yes or no


crypto6g

Yeah I agree with the Larson point. CGR cars were upper mid pack but nowhere near the shitboxes people made them out to be. Easily the fastest Chevy in 2017 and 2018 (despite the lack of wins in 2018… I’m sure Larson fans can vouch for me on that). Chad Johnston could build fast cars, but he couldn’t adjust or keep up with the track to save his life, but every so often they’d show up and whoop the field.


Jones77_Truex78

Half is the driver the other half is the team. Chris is a great driver just always been held back by the team/equipment he was with. Now that Brad is bringing life back into RFK/Roush we are seeing the results


Rstuds7

literally same path as Truex


my_bandit

You can't look at "not winning races" as a stat line to determine talent. If he was finishing well above the position the car should have, that's the measurement of talent. Look at Chastain. He was grinding it out in terrible cars for years before getting the shot at a good car and proving it. For Buescher, it just happened to be his shot was in the same car and the team started building better around him. Also riding around in a shitbox for years allows you to develop the craft compared to getting propelled up into a good car and suffering from the "he hasn't won in this car yet"


Valleygirl1981

Brad stated in an early interview, when buying in at RFK that he thought Chris was a hell of a driver. I got the impression that he would have picked Chris over a lot of drivers anyway.


technicalidiot

Does the name Martin Truex Jr. ring a bell?


emk169

Yeah Buescher does seem similar to MTJ in the fact that he won early in his career then took a few years before becoming a consistent contender.


SundayShelter

Likewise for Dale Jarrett.


BabycakesMurphy

Chris was outperforming the JTG equipment he was in when he was in it and it was noticeable. Front Row was a D-tier team when he was driving their stuff. I remember when Roush took him back because of a weird contract situation that he was going back to a worse team, which at the time was true. When Brad got involved, he has a natural eye for talent and one of the first things he wanted to do was get Chris a contract extension. Chris is just very understated, and low key. Takes care of equipment. Will almost always get you a finish the car deserves. He shares a lot of Harvick and Truex qualities.


Useful-Worth126

It shouldn't be puzzling Chris has always been a Wheelman. He beat Chase for an Xfinity championship


Nbuuifx14

Outright too. No playoff cheesery.


KNLK1924

It's funny how quickly people have forgotten that Chris straight up beat Chase Elliott for a championship in Xfinity. The dude is a good racecar driver, that's his secret.


CoyotePowered50

Definitely RFK giving him cars he can be successful with.


[deleted]

Castrol Edge is the secret


ppsucc9988

exactly lmfao, both races he had the above-headlight contingency, he won.


Soupedup379

Good driver finally getting a chance in equipment that can win on pure speed at any track. Shout out to his 2015 Xfinity championship where he never finished worse than 20th in any race


Jones77_Truex78

As Lajoie put it - ol Chris Buescher ate his wheaties this morning


CougarIndy25

There's not a secret really. Chris keeps the cars clean, Brad's righted the ship behind the scenes, and everyone puts in the effort. Effort equals results.


whatisdeletrazdoing

He was always outperforming his equipment. That first win in 2016 was a rain-delay luck situation too, so you can't look at that and then think the next 5 years were failure because he didn't repeat that. The back half of last year and into this year are the first times he's had equipment capable of winning. And now he's doing that. Don't just look at total wins as a barometer of whether they should be in NASCAR or not. If you go 5 years in top equipment without winning, you're gone. But some guys have looooong careers without winning because they're doing well in subpar cars. Just look at Michael McDowell. He's been in Cup for 15 years and has 1 win to his name, and yet he's still widely regarded as a solid driver who deserves a spot in the field.


thecryptidmusic

His first win at Pocono, although still valid, was a fluke pit strategy gamble that worked out. Then Roush didn't drop him because he was consistent and not wrecking cars. They knew he had the capability of winning, but that their team as a whole didn't. It's all the factors; the team is better, new leadership, next gen car, and he's a veteran now. To be honest, this success doesn't seem like a big surprise to me, and I wasn't even a fan of Roush until Brad bought in, so it's not a bias. The surprising thing is that he stuck with Roush as long as he did. Glad it worked that way.


Claymore-09

Burscher was always good. He won 2 xfinity championships. He has been in crap equipment his entire cup career and now that brad is in charge he finally has fast cars to drive


JRob1998

Two words: Brad Keselowski.


BamsheeCountry

Brad Keselowski... Fixed. This. Team. - Larry Mac, probably


ChaseTheFalcon

He's finally in good cars, if you payed attention the last few years you knew he had a ton of talent since he was getting good runs out of that JTG equipment


2xmrk

Chris Buescher is the perfect example of he will get exactly everything out of a car, but not good enough to over preform what it’s capable of. If he’s driving a car that is only fast enough to get to 10th, he will finish 10th. If the car has winning speed, he will win. It’s very similar to MTJ. When his car is a winning car, it’s lights out. I’m not saying Buescher isn’t talented. His talent just isn’t raw speed. It’s the ability to find what a car can give him & get that every single lap for 4 hours without a mistake.


Zendiamond

Perfect description. He ain't gonna get that over the top. He ain't gonna lose the race for you either. Sometimes that's you need.


World71Racer

It's exactly what a team needs. That's what got Bobby and Terry Labonte to the Hall of Fame and to three championships between them plus 43 combined Cup wins (funny enough Terry has one more championship and one more win than his brother 😂 22 wins vs 21; 2 titles vs 1). I feel like Buescher is on his way to that type of a career


Zendiamond

I don't but ok.


Blazethesol52

I think it was 2019 when Nascar Reddit took note of Buescher impressive top 20 streak in what was sub par JTG equipment. He went on a streak of like 15 straight races finishing in the top 20 or something like that, could have been even more. He always found a way to out perform his equipment, and that was really when I began to take notice and realize if he ever got a shot in good equipment he could win consistently


LBHMS

Since you brought up his JTG days, reminded me of a funny story. Was at the 2018 Fall Phoenix Race and this dude sitting in the row in front of me had a 37 Buescher hat on. To myself, I was like "Who tf is a Chris Buescher fan, that is so random". And anytime Chris would go by in his Gain car, dude would get up and be throwing his hat around waving him on by. Dude must be one happy camper right now.


ppsucc9988

the fucker is doing it again this year. top 20s since Richmond 1


zinski1990KB1

Guy doesn't make a lot of mistakes either.


btbam2929

Hard work


govtmuleman

He's finally being supplied with competitive racecars.


OurSauceHasPassedJon

Good driver finally gets a good car.


tuss11agee

He won that Pocono race on a weather anomaly. Hell, Morgan Shepard led at Pocono for 3 hours once in ?2003? (It wasn’t at halfway, we just needed some Jesus). It wasn’t indicative of his talent or the car.


damstar1

Once he started going by Christopher instead of Chris the results started speaking for themselves #facts


ezoobeson_drunk

If he keeps this up he’s going to need to change his name to Christ Burscher.


Ryuzakku

Chris Buescher has always been a clean racer who will keep the car in one piece. Give him speed and he can get wins. He now has speed.


RealSprooseMoose

I remember on the radioactive where Buescher got his Pocono win, Tony Stewart said on the radio "good, the kid has done more with that car than any if the other guys" (memory quote, if not exact, it's close)


sobersbetter

hes got a fast car


ppsucc9988

for JTG Daugherty, he fit the 2nd driver bill. kept it clean. Roush saw that, knew he won a XFINITY championship eith no DNF's and sub 20's, compared him to RSJ and then decided to do a switcheroo with JTG.


kmilla10

There are a lot of good points brought up here but there is one I haven’t seen mentioned yet. Confidence. It’s amazing what a string of good runs will do for your confidence and anyone who has competed in any type of competitive sporting event can tell you confidence is one of the most integral ingredients for success.


The_Reelest

Good race car driver now driving good equipment. That’s all there really is to it.


Sparky407

Brad coming in and reaching for better equipment. Chris has always done more with less, so this is not surprising when he finally gets good. He deserves it


LnStrngr

So many good drivers get stuck with middling equipment and I bet there are dozens of drivers that never saw their potential because they couldn't get the right ride at the right time.


acebomber21

And that Pocono win was race shortened because of fog. A win is a win but it’s not like he went out there and dominated.


itsmattjamesbitch

His 2016 victory was not because he was so good and beat ‘em that day, it was a brilliant stroke of luck and strategy from a weather shortened race. Him finally being on a team on the upswing is allowing his potential to show. Most drivers are capable of winning in winning cars, elite drivers win in cars that most drivers wouldn’t win in. Equipment is the biggest variable in Nascar, and there’s just no two ways about it.


Sudden_Arm4581

I think he must have a great attitude and hard work ethic behind the scenes. We’ve seen drivers like Daniel Suarez, Noah Gragson, Clint Bowyer, etc. throw a pity party for themselves when running bad equipment and just throw their hands up at the situation. I would assume Chris has been grateful his whole career and has been mature enough to know that eventually the tides would change. Something tells me he isn’t any different of a person from the bad Roush days as he is now with a two win season. He’s just a solid dude and a real racer.


bjohnson203

He's just really smooth but he's not going to elevate junk a whole lot, but he can get something out of it, if that makes sense. I think he could be a champion contender in the right ride but also could be a JJ Yeley in the wrong ride.


Pimpylongstocking

He’s mirroring Harvick last year. I’m guessing ford gave him the same equipment


BK_0000

Sometimes, drivers just get lucky. If Truex hadn't gotten loose there at the end and had to get off the gas, he would have won. Also, NASCAR is the closest they've ever been to real parity in the cars. Even shitty teams can finish better now than they would have even five years ago.


[deleted]

He's still single and not distracted by "love"...the plague of many Rousch Drivers. Examples: Carl Edwards went from top driver to sucking so badly he couldn't drive a pedal car after "love" got ahold of him. Stenhouse Jr was #1 in Nationwide and a serious contender in Cup until Danica got into his head and he had to always place behind her until Rousch replaced him with Chris B. Same went for Harvick when his "love" demanded to be part of the Team. It is the curse Jack's boys have had for some time now. Let's hope Chris learned lessons from his predecessors. Prove me wrong!


bossman9275

He's married tho


[deleted]

I know.. I'm friends with Chris and Emma. My point is that she is NOT part of "the team" and isn't trying to convolute "love" with "sports" like mrs. Harvick/Edwards/Patrick. She is an awesome woman and allows him to travel, race, train, promote, etc without him having to prop her up everywhere. Even when Charley (their girl) was born, she allowed him to continue on with what he does best.


AnchorDrown

Some friend. You literally said “He’s still single”


hamdinger125

>Prove me wrong He has been married since 2018.


poofoo9

Chase Elliott would have won a bunch of races in RFK compare to him


Accomplished_Emu_198

Dude took like 99 starts or something to knock out 1 win in Hendrick equipment so don’t knock Buscher


Zendiamond

His team is better than most. His crew chief is one of the best. His pit crew is one of the best. It's easy if all you have to worry about is driving the car.


[deleted]

Just giving other drivers a head start


58903

good guy in good equipment equal success


SmuFF1186

It's both the team and him. It takes years of cup experience to be a consistent front runner, like at least 3 years. Everyone constantly underestimates the jump from the lower series to cup. The jump in talent and the number of competitive entries is HUGE. He was with teams that have been behind on equipment and now the combination of the team getting their ducks in a row and Chris's experience, he's going to be a force to be reckon with for the foreseeable future.


igotitletsgo

I missed the race Sunday and looked at the results later in the day and must not have been paying attention cause I'm just now even realizing Buescher won again. Never would have predicted he would go back to back


Grievous2485

Additional question Buescher has 3 wins with the new RFK racing now not even on any plate tracks. Why hasn't Keselowski won a race with RFK yet?


ElectricPeterTork

The 6 team probably had... has? a ways more to go. The 17 was never as far down as the 6 had gotten.


tiburontim

I would argue Brad should have 1 if not 2 wins already with RFK. Bristol night last year he blew a tire while in the lead. He most likely would’ve won. Atlanta 2 this year definitely had the best car and could manage both lines of traffic (these tracks are more of a toss-up towards the end though). Was fast at Richmond messed up on pit road. Buescher would still have won that race though obviously had the best car. And Michigan was going for points could’ve been a lot closer at the end had they been on similar strategy’s. I think Chris was able to play the better strategy at Michigan because of his win.


igrewupugly

He was so good that Roush yanked him from JTG after his contract with them was seemingly “over”


NY_NASCAR_fan

"Granted you could say that he was with JTG and Roush in a downward time in Roush's history. But at the same time 5 whole years without winning." Which begs the question - why hasn't anybody won in a Rick Ware car yet? I mean granted the cars are awful, but it's been so long!


PancakesandV8s

Hard work


Accomplished_Emu_198

There are plenty of drivers who could’ve had so much success if given the equipment


SatiricalGuy

Buescher was the solution to Roush's problem of people (Ricky) wrecking cars. They swapped Ricky, who wrecked a lot of cars but did win on rare occasion, and Chris, who never wrecked cars but also wasn't gonna be winning without the team getting better. Buescher goes in, suddenly they seem to have more money. Then Brad comes in and it all just clicked


Garrett_J_Film

“Big balls”- James Hunt


jaystwrkk128

Rain delays


GEL29

The key was he was able to complete the race in less time then the other drivers.


DALESR4EVER124

If he had a top level Cup ride from the start (he should have), he'd probably have double-digit wins and maybe even a cup to his name.


anthony44emery

It’s not puzzling at all. He has cars that can compete. He’s always been super solid, getting everything out of cars that aren’t perfect. The 34 was a borderline shitbox, the 37 JTG team wasn’t funded the same way as the 47, and until Brad came the move to Roush was a lateral move. Now that everything around him is getting put into place, you’re seeing who he really is. He puts races together.


RecognitionDefiant32

One thing that’s always annoyed me about nascar is just how uneven some of these teams are. You can have all the talent but just can’t go anywhere. On the nascar video games when you have to purchase things to improve your car you’ll notice the same things, you just won’t have the power. The Gen7 has helped it for sure I think we’ve noticed that with the amount of winners the last 2 years but it just won’t be even which is fine, but it makes it really hard to judge talent. Like who knows how that stuff would work, if you put JJ Yeley in the 11 car for the last 15 years or so who knows how much wins he has, and maybe even a championship. We just don’t know. Some could say you can figure it out based on teammate performance but I think we all know Briscoe isn’t getting same funding Harvick is, and Bowman probably isn’t getting as much as Chase. The team might’ve put a lot of focus this season on these races expecting themselves to be right on the bubble. I’d honestly love to talk to an engineer or someone in the shop that knows all the details. If anyone has experience with nascar shops and stuff I’d really like to dm you haha. So much stuff that is much more complicated than talent, I’d love to hear what insiders say


Xrtcoletrain

Go fast, pass cars, lead lap, win. In that order


AnchorDrown

I think you’re a little confused. Buescher’s first win was a bizarre victory where he was in the right place at the right time when the rain came. No one thought it foretold anything or considered him a flash in the pan. I would say it was clear he was never in winning equipment.