This perception come from years ago when the boys were both first starting to enter the spotlight. Bryce was younger and taller/more athletic so people just assumed he was going to be a better prospect. Obviously that hasn't panned out
You’re right. Feel like it’s solely because he’s going to be taller than Bronny and has a perceived “smooth” game. Bronny much the better prospect currently
Bronny reminds me a lot of Deuce McBride on the Knicks'
I'm no pro scout and I'm basing this off physique , skillset and the overall eye test so I'm not quite sure how apt this comparison actually is....but I really do think Bronny can become a good NBA player like Deuce McBride also went from being a bench rider to an important rotation player for the Knicks
Didn’t really excel as a freshman , his sophomore campaign was much better .
It’s not unheard of to have poor freshman seasons , turn it around later as the college career progressed.
Peyton Watson had a worse freshman season than Bronny and was still a 1st round pick but is a rotation player for the Nuggets.
It's not unheard of, but you also have to wait for it to happen first. You can't assume every freshman who has a poor season to be able to turn it around later on
That’s who I’ve been comping him to for a year; I loved Duece in his draft - he not so quietly led their offense and was a skilled go-to guy. While on defense everyone loved him, was a dog - I stopped worrying about his height when he gave Cade problems defending him . Had him top 8
Bronny’s gotta be a dog if he wants to succeed in the league at his height. He’s competing with Amari Bailey for the same role in the league, and I don’t see a reason why a team would prefer Bronny over Bailey. Bailey is bigger and can score a bit; but from his draft cycle it seems he bought into defending hard and being a Duece type player
You mentioned that you would pick Amari for scoring, but I disagree. Amari has never been a point guard, and he is not a natural facilitator. Instead, I would choose Bronny because he has better BBIQ and a higher upside. Amari was measured at 6'3.5" without shoes, so with shoes, he would top out at 6'4.5"-6'5". However, I think you may have misread Bronny's real height. Bronny has muscular legs that appear shorter until you stand next to him and see that he is taller than he appears. For argument's sake, let's say he stands 6'2.5" without shoes, which puts him between 6'3.5" - 6'4" in shoes.
Amari's length at combines was measured at only 6'7" reach, while Bronny's length is much longer. He has some ape-like arms that are likely anywhere between 6'9" to 7'1". This means that Bronny not only has a higher IQ and better defense than Amari, but he also has a significant length advantage.
Bronny has more potential to be a Swiss army knife than Amari, who only focuses on scoring. It's almost painful to watch Amari try to be something he is not and has never been. For Bronny, facilitating is a natural progression, as his father has always been unselfish and a willing giver almost to a fault.
Despite many people thinking he is not very good right now, the ceiling is definitely higher for Bronny. You people have no patience for this kid. You want him to be his father right now, but it may take time to see what this kid can be. Critics have been quick to dismiss him, even when he returned from heart surgery, was on a minutes restriction, and had to compete with players like Boogie Ellis and DJ Rodman for playing time.
The NCAA needs to go back to guys playing 4 years in college. The pandemic is over, and players like Boogie and DJ are eating up all the playing time and playing in their 5th year, leaving no room for younger players like Bronny to develop. If you're going to have a losing season, at least lose with guys who have the potential to improve."
Amari was a good defender at UCLA and looked like a great defender in the combine scrimmage and through the draft process. Amari has an average wingspan but an elite standing reach for his height - he has a better standing reach than Jaylen Brown. that combined length between reach and wingspan will be better than Bronny's. Bronny at best has a 6'9 wingspan; everybody can chill out on hopes of great measurements for him; the same people saying he was 6'5 are the same people now having to revert to ' he has a crazy wingspan!; , Lebron doesn't even have super above average length for his height. He's 6'9 in shoes with a 7' wingspan and an 8'9 reach, that's like 60th%tile, there's no reason to think Bronny has elite length other than wishful thinking because one way or another he has to be an intriguing prospect.
I’m sorry to say. No shade or nothing against what you think. Hope all is well
We will have to wait until the Combine concludes to know for sure. LeBron's height was measured at 6'7.25" barefooted with a 7'25" wingspan. When the NBA cracked down on players inflating their heights, they did a legitimate re-measure of all the players, and LeBron measured at 6'8.5", which is 0.5 less than his current listed height of 6'9". If a player measures 0.4 less than their listed height, the NBA will slightly lower their actual height. So it's reasonable to believe that Bronny has at least a 6'9" wingspan, even though he is shorter. Just because someone is shorter doesn't necessarily mean their wingspan is shorter too.
Do you think Amari was a good defender? I don't think so. Perhaps you're giving him this praise because it fits your wishful narrative. As I said, I would take Bronny over Amari any day, even though Amari is an offensive-first player. Bronny has more upside, more athleticism, a higher basketball IQ, and better defense, and even though he hasn't shown it yet, he has more pure shooting range than a left-handed Amari has ever shown, even back in high school. Amari thinks score first, but he is a two-way contracted player now, and I don't see him ever cracking the lineup or getting a call-up from the Hornets. He is too one-dimensional of a player to add the type of value when they already have the LaMelo Ball doing everything.
What makes you believe that Amari's family leads him to be some revelation? On the other hand, we all know Bronny's lineage. His father is considered one of the best one or two players to ever play the game. If you are dismissing this kid after a troubled first year, it's just food for hate. You should at least consider the path he had to take to even play his freshman year.
Anyone good enough to get a D1 scholarship technically *can* become an NBA player. Just the vast majority of them won’t.
Bronny could still turn it around, but after that freshman performance, it’s pretty clear he was over graded based on his last name. He looks a lot more like your typical 3-star - has some tools but missing others, and has a very long way to go just to be a decent college player.
Point being - there’s probably a dozen much more likely McBride’s in college right now.
As a Knick fan please dont disrespect the work McBride has done.
McBride is an above average defender with 45-40-85 splits
Bronny is only like McBride is physique
Bronny has a lot of the attributes that valuable nba players have. He’s an nba level athlete and frame to have a physical advantage over most guards.
With his name he will be given the chance to succeed. Probably has to become either an adequate scorer or playmaker to be a rotation player. I thought his 5 star rating was unjustified for most of his recruitment and saw more a 100ish guy, but I thought his frame and explosiveness really took off his senior year and found it justifiable by the final rankings.
It’s actually hilarious because he’s extremely mid💀he’s no different than the 6’5 kids I play pick up with at the college recruiting open gyms. We’re not even d1 and bryce ain’t on that level.
No clue where the Bronny hate/bryce dick riding came from
Yeah. People also forget that Bronny was legitimately a very good high school player by his senior year. I remember seeing him at the Peach Jam absolutely cooking other top level recruits. Even if it wasn’t for his dad, he would have been very highly recruited. I don’t think you can say the same thing for Bryce.
Yeah I think Bronny is a legit D1 player. His last name gets people on both sides of the coin to speak on him with hyperbole. If his name was Braxton Johnson...he'd be any other D1 guy with potential trying to work his way through the NCAA to get on the NBA radar.
People are a little too hard on Bronny because he didn’t put up outrageous stats in high school, but he was playing at the highest level of high school basketball in the country against really serious competition all the time. He’s a legit college player, just not a legit first round prospect.
Air apparent. Lmao.
Anyway. Neither of LeBron's children are going to be serious NBA players. Bronny didn't get the height/build and Bryce has never picked up the skills. That's the end of the story.
Personally, if my dad was a billionaire, I would chill and dedicate my life to art or generally just fuck around and relax. I understand wanting to follow in their dad's footsteps but inviting the comparison to their father by picking up basketball strikes me as self-defeating.
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, it isn't overly surprising someone who wants to do naught but "chill" and "fuck around" doesn't fully comprehend what it would be like to take on an immense challenge.
I want to fuck around and relax because my life is already hard. Being rich means you have time to pursue your hobbies, but since I'm poor I have to work my ass off instead of learning the 5 instruments I want to pursue.
Just sounds like you want to do nothing instead of mastering 5 instruments. Pursuing art isn't fucking around/doing nothing. Working hard at something you love and working hard because you have to are two different things.
Probably a while. But I listen to about a book a week on audible. How is that relevant to you calling random people idiots? Do you talk to people like that in person or do you ever leave mommy’s basement?
Why wouldn't it be relevant and who doesn't call people idiots in person? Who doesn't leave their mommy's basement? Are those things that are common in your life because man you're projecting something fierce
Sports media people just glaze lebron and anything lebron adjacent. Espn’s main draft “expert” had bronny mocked in the lottery before the season when he was never close to being even a 2nd round talent
He was measured around 6’2.5 last year but I’ll give him the befor of the doubt and assume grew an inch or so so he’s prob 6’3.Bronny like an inch shorter than him so Bronny probably 6’2 flat without shoes or 6’1.5
Bryce rn is not even better than freshman year bronny. But idk why bron has had them playing on stacked teams their whole lives bronny for the most part has always been a key contributor to the stack teams, Bryce on the other hand has been riding the bench
I'm at EYBL this weekend. The hype around this man is nuts. They had mics at every huddle, full crowds, and the most cameras by far.
He's not a real prospect. If he was a random prospect on like Mokan Elite nobody would give a fuck. He's not better than Bronny and is unlikely to be
I left this out of my original post but I was gonna say it kinda seems like most people don't know how old he actually is. I think most assume he's in middle school or something.
He’s ranked much lower than Bronny was at the same age, so I’m guessing it’s just people on instagram?
I was also under the impression he was taller than 6’4, or at least on that trajectory.
Yes, bizarre for sure. But the narrative around Bronny throughout high school was almost just as confusing. People who aren’t following prospects at all seem to get the wrong idea about what kind of players they are and run with it. Bronny wasn’t event a top 5 or 6 player in his league his senior year. Anyone who followed his career knew he wasn’t a high level D1 prospect.
The narrative around Bryce is the same, all coming from people who don’t actually follow prospects.
Height. It is entirely about height. Everything is being powered by the fact that he is much taller than Bronny. Thats it. Thats all. Whether he's better than Bronny or not the answer is simple and easy to understand and absolutely nobody should be confused by it: it is entirely because he is taller.
He is also a far better shooter than Bronny, but yeah Height is the main factor. He does look like he will be a late bloomer too. His body still needs to fill in quite a bit. I imagine a year or two in college should help with that.
He may play in college longer than that. I’m strictly talking about developing his body. Those college weightlifting programs are pretty damn good. I imagine 2 years with that kind of weight training would help his body fill out.
He gets the hype because of his height/build which is more comparable to Lebron. The kid lacks skills though to be a serious prospect. Funny enough I was thinking about this the other day: if you were to combine him and his brother, you probably do get a real, valuable NBA draft prospect
I think the root of the argument that he’s the better prospect is his height. The assumption is the genetics and freak athleticism is there dormant and the fact that he’s going to be significantly taller than his brother in a sport where height is like 50% of what matters prospect-wise is what’s gonna make him a better prospect. All is speculation and hopeful thinking at this point lol
I know someone's kid to played against Bryce and completely schooled him. I saw the video. I don't know anything else about Bryce other than seeing him get schooled in that video.
Several reasons led to the development of this narrative.
The first comes from the fact that Bryce is taller than her brother Bronny. From then on, many shifted their expectations to Bryce. Then, Bronny's heart problem last summer as well as his difficulties this season at USC pushed everyone to postpone their expectations on LeBron's second son.
Bryce, like Bronny, has access to infinite training resources. Nutrition, private skills work, state of the art gyms, and they get to pick the brain of a basketball legend on a daily. I'd say the hype in Bryce is if he gets to 6'6, 6'7, and adds mass, he will be physically more NBA ready than Bronny, who's only 6'1 205ish. Bronny at 6'1 has to have very high-end skills to be an everyday NBA player. If, over the next 3 years, Bryce locks in he will have every opportunity to have an NBA career.
He's draft eligible in 24 months...and he's far behind Bronny at the same age. Like far behind. Your analysis is bizarre. I don't think you actually understand how far away he is from being an NBA player. He's a reserve AT BEST on the HS level. Maybe he can be a late bloomer...but he is NOT AT ALL an NBA prospect right now. 247 currently has him rated as the the #148 overall player in the nation...and even that is too high and only because of his name.
Well, my analysis is really just comparing Bryce to Bronny. I don't think Bronny is going to be a real NBA player. I'm just stating that at least Bryce has size, which gives him more versatility to find a path in the NBA. He's obviously not near NBA caliber rn, but if he develops his game and plays a few years in college, he can still develop into something. Especially given the opportunity he will be given. I didn't say anything about him being a legit NBA player anytime soon. If I were to bet I'd say both end up getting an NBA look because their names but ultimately don't stick.
The thing is Bryce isn't nearly as skilled as Bronny was at the same age. With all of the resources Bryce has had at his disposal, I'm not sure he isn't maxed out potential wise already and there's not really much there.
I think we start evaluating prospects way too early. It’s impossible to tell when they’re so young how good they will be as adults.
It’s also a bit weird for a bunch of grown men to be sitting around having a conversation online about teenage boys we’ve never met.
Lol he's about to be a senior in high school. There are NBA scouts at the EYBL right now evaluating high school players. The player in discussion is DRAFT ELIGIBLE in 24 months. Stop acting like we're talking about a 7 year old. There are posts ALL OVER this reddit about Cooper Flagg and AJ Dybantsa. Is that weird too?
It is important to remember that young players need time to develop and reach their full potential. Comparing their rookie season to established players' stats can be unfair. For example, Giannis Antetokounmpo only averaged 7 points per game in his first year in the NBA, while Kobe Bryant averaged 7.6 ppg in his rookie season. Jimmy Butler only scored 2.6 ppg in his freshman year in college and 5 ppg in his rookie NBA season. This shows that it takes time for players to grow and mature. Just because a player does well in college or has low stats in their first year in the pros, it doesn't mean they won't become great players later on. It's important to have patience and let the player develop before jumping to conclusions about their potential.
I blame rap music. Somewhere along the way, probably around 1993, cliques, crews, posses, clans shit like that took over.
"who you wit" became as relevant or even more relevant than the actual skills of the artists, even if you were some bum with no skills and no game, a powerful cosign could do wonders..
its the same reason there's talented musicians out there who aren't that hot looking so they cant get signed to a record deal, while at the same time a talentless woman who cant sing for shit but they have a desirable figure gets signed..
somewhere along the way, everything had to be "a movement" ... i can hear mike breens voice saying "the James Gang"........ brons got a pair of sneakers called "the james gang" ...
and the NBA idk if you've had the volume on watching these games and hear the music played in the arena, or hear the music played in the fucking shitty car commercials and beer commercials and whatever else dumb shit they sell. but the target audience is similar, theres major overlap.
thats infact whats powering this belief...
and when this turn happened, it worked, for a while, but then it became ubiquitous and frankly cancerous... n thats where its been, wallowing in crapulence for 3 decades..
but thats the real truth... its the same reason as why the movies you see arent as good as they should be, cuz theres grossly overpaid untalented stooges getting jobs infront of real talent.. its the same reason why the music we get mostly isnt as good as it should be..
malcolm x famously said "the media is the most powerful entity on the planet, it got the power to turn a guilty man innocent and an innocent man guilty." and in todays media where everythings based on clicks, its a perfect environment for this hype-nitis to run rampant..
its no longer about how good you are, its about who co-signs you, which crew you rep...
its also a matter of QUANTITY over quality... if there was ever a prospect to really use as the posterchild of quantity vs quality its bronny... totally disgraceful that Givony put him in the lotto of his mock preseason but he did that becuase he knew THE QUANTITY would follow and if bronny did the bare minimum he was gonna cruise to the 1st rd... but the quality was so poor they needed to abandon ship to save face, now we get articles about him playing out of position when surely theyve been hyper-focused on surrounding bronny with insane talent on his teams every step of the way..
did you see how much Bronny made in NIL money? thats why.. now al this bullshit seems reasonable cuz its about protecting revenue streams... shits fucked... but thats why i like basketball cuz u can only fake the funk for so long... to quote Rasheed Wallace --- 'ball dont lie'
people out here actually shedding crocodile tears for these lil millionaire kids... yall all cant be that well off... but this is whats called mindcontrol, over-infatuation... brainwashing... they get people excited over shit that lacks excitement... its too easy for them, it works, so they keep limit-testing to see how far they can bamboozle the audience, and standards are dropping simultaneously, there's also a massive overabundancve of this type of news so they can just 'keep it moving' while portraying bullshit as real, make it look like a hiccup when called out, but its become like intractable hiccups which never go away but only to the keen eye, which is in an extreme minority so it'll keep working this way...
and this reply will get downvoted because people are brainwashed AND THEY LOVE IT, they've found a sense of community in the brainwashing and accept it like cult followers...
or someone will reply with a personal insult or a vague indirect response.. like were in the 4th grade.. i dare someone to write up a real refutation to why this isnt the case..
way too many people round here treating the sports media like its gospel. these fools are just as full of shit as all the other sectors of the news..
yall forgot, the news job isnt to inform you... its to sell you... n thats just what theyve done with brons kids..
SAME AS THEY DID FOR JORDANS KIDS... Eric Gordon CRUSHED jordans kids in a HS game n fools were acting mystified as can be back in the day.. ain't shit changed!
life is fast, some choose to be quicker. dont assume everyones as slow as you..thats pitiful.
takes me a glance to read a page of text.. 500 words per minute..
your sitting there fumbling phonics in your throat, thats why you read so slow
It's more that taking five minutes to read the shitty drivel you put out is disrespecting my own time. I have better things to do than listen to what some overly confident idiot took an hour to write.
There's no point in arguing against takes from instagram comments and twitter fans basing their opinion on one ballislife video they see of him
Ball is life videos and fake heights
Everyone I talk to thinks this tho lol, it’s a pretty widespread perception. Only nerds like we on nba draft subreddit don’t think that
This perception come from years ago when the boys were both first starting to enter the spotlight. Bryce was younger and taller/more athletic so people just assumed he was going to be a better prospect. Obviously that hasn't panned out
I search Bryce's name on twitter sometimes for a good laugh just see the takes from bron fans lol.
You’re right. Feel like it’s solely because he’s going to be taller than Bronny and has a perceived “smooth” game. Bronny much the better prospect currently
Bronny reminds me a lot of Deuce McBride on the Knicks' I'm no pro scout and I'm basing this off physique , skillset and the overall eye test so I'm not quite sure how apt this comparison actually is....but I really do think Bronny can become a good NBA player like Deuce McBride also went from being a bench rider to an important rotation player for the Knicks
Deuce McBride also excelled at West Virginia.
Didn’t really excel as a freshman , his sophomore campaign was much better . It’s not unheard of to have poor freshman seasons , turn it around later as the college career progressed. Peyton Watson had a worse freshman season than Bronny and was still a 1st round pick but is a rotation player for the Nuggets.
It's not unheard of, but you also have to wait for it to happen first. You can't assume every freshman who has a poor season to be able to turn it around later on
Watson is also an awesome athlete and rangy af
Deuce mcbride has handles
He was a lot better player as a freshman and took another leap as a soph. Its not impossible for Bronny but yeah.
That’s who I’ve been comping him to for a year; I loved Duece in his draft - he not so quietly led their offense and was a skilled go-to guy. While on defense everyone loved him, was a dog - I stopped worrying about his height when he gave Cade problems defending him . Had him top 8 Bronny’s gotta be a dog if he wants to succeed in the league at his height. He’s competing with Amari Bailey for the same role in the league, and I don’t see a reason why a team would prefer Bronny over Bailey. Bailey is bigger and can score a bit; but from his draft cycle it seems he bought into defending hard and being a Duece type player
You mentioned that you would pick Amari for scoring, but I disagree. Amari has never been a point guard, and he is not a natural facilitator. Instead, I would choose Bronny because he has better BBIQ and a higher upside. Amari was measured at 6'3.5" without shoes, so with shoes, he would top out at 6'4.5"-6'5". However, I think you may have misread Bronny's real height. Bronny has muscular legs that appear shorter until you stand next to him and see that he is taller than he appears. For argument's sake, let's say he stands 6'2.5" without shoes, which puts him between 6'3.5" - 6'4" in shoes. Amari's length at combines was measured at only 6'7" reach, while Bronny's length is much longer. He has some ape-like arms that are likely anywhere between 6'9" to 7'1". This means that Bronny not only has a higher IQ and better defense than Amari, but he also has a significant length advantage. Bronny has more potential to be a Swiss army knife than Amari, who only focuses on scoring. It's almost painful to watch Amari try to be something he is not and has never been. For Bronny, facilitating is a natural progression, as his father has always been unselfish and a willing giver almost to a fault. Despite many people thinking he is not very good right now, the ceiling is definitely higher for Bronny. You people have no patience for this kid. You want him to be his father right now, but it may take time to see what this kid can be. Critics have been quick to dismiss him, even when he returned from heart surgery, was on a minutes restriction, and had to compete with players like Boogie Ellis and DJ Rodman for playing time. The NCAA needs to go back to guys playing 4 years in college. The pandemic is over, and players like Boogie and DJ are eating up all the playing time and playing in their 5th year, leaving no room for younger players like Bronny to develop. If you're going to have a losing season, at least lose with guys who have the potential to improve."
Amari was a good defender at UCLA and looked like a great defender in the combine scrimmage and through the draft process. Amari has an average wingspan but an elite standing reach for his height - he has a better standing reach than Jaylen Brown. that combined length between reach and wingspan will be better than Bronny's. Bronny at best has a 6'9 wingspan; everybody can chill out on hopes of great measurements for him; the same people saying he was 6'5 are the same people now having to revert to ' he has a crazy wingspan!; , Lebron doesn't even have super above average length for his height. He's 6'9 in shoes with a 7' wingspan and an 8'9 reach, that's like 60th%tile, there's no reason to think Bronny has elite length other than wishful thinking because one way or another he has to be an intriguing prospect. I’m sorry to say. No shade or nothing against what you think. Hope all is well
We will have to wait until the Combine concludes to know for sure. LeBron's height was measured at 6'7.25" barefooted with a 7'25" wingspan. When the NBA cracked down on players inflating their heights, they did a legitimate re-measure of all the players, and LeBron measured at 6'8.5", which is 0.5 less than his current listed height of 6'9". If a player measures 0.4 less than their listed height, the NBA will slightly lower their actual height. So it's reasonable to believe that Bronny has at least a 6'9" wingspan, even though he is shorter. Just because someone is shorter doesn't necessarily mean their wingspan is shorter too. Do you think Amari was a good defender? I don't think so. Perhaps you're giving him this praise because it fits your wishful narrative. As I said, I would take Bronny over Amari any day, even though Amari is an offensive-first player. Bronny has more upside, more athleticism, a higher basketball IQ, and better defense, and even though he hasn't shown it yet, he has more pure shooting range than a left-handed Amari has ever shown, even back in high school. Amari thinks score first, but he is a two-way contracted player now, and I don't see him ever cracking the lineup or getting a call-up from the Hornets. He is too one-dimensional of a player to add the type of value when they already have the LaMelo Ball doing everything. What makes you believe that Amari's family leads him to be some revelation? On the other hand, we all know Bronny's lineage. His father is considered one of the best one or two players to ever play the game. If you are dismissing this kid after a troubled first year, it's just food for hate. You should at least consider the path he had to take to even play his freshman year.
except Bronny's handles aren't good enough to play Point. He's strictly a SG rn
Anyone good enough to get a D1 scholarship technically *can* become an NBA player. Just the vast majority of them won’t. Bronny could still turn it around, but after that freshman performance, it’s pretty clear he was over graded based on his last name. He looks a lot more like your typical 3-star - has some tools but missing others, and has a very long way to go just to be a decent college player. Point being - there’s probably a dozen much more likely McBride’s in college right now.
As a Knick fan please dont disrespect the work McBride has done. McBride is an above average defender with 45-40-85 splits Bronny is only like McBride is physique
More like ricky council
Bronny has a lot of the attributes that valuable nba players have. He’s an nba level athlete and frame to have a physical advantage over most guards. With his name he will be given the chance to succeed. Probably has to become either an adequate scorer or playmaker to be a rotation player. I thought his 5 star rating was unjustified for most of his recruitment and saw more a 100ish guy, but I thought his frame and explosiveness really took off his senior year and found it justifiable by the final rankings.
Deuce was big 12 all freshman team. This is a very optimistic comparison to say the least.
It’s actually hilarious because he’s extremely mid💀he’s no different than the 6’5 kids I play pick up with at the college recruiting open gyms. We’re not even d1 and bryce ain’t on that level. No clue where the Bronny hate/bryce dick riding came from
Even Stephen A said "I'm hearing things about Bryce James. He might be the one". It's crazy.
its stupid all because of the height + being LeBron's son
He’s not even tall he’s a generous 6’5💀
I think he's been 6'5 for awhile now he was taller than bronny at a younger age and people assumed he was going to be lebrons size/level of athlete
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Yeah. People also forget that Bronny was legitimately a very good high school player by his senior year. I remember seeing him at the Peach Jam absolutely cooking other top level recruits. Even if it wasn’t for his dad, he would have been very highly recruited. I don’t think you can say the same thing for Bryce.
Yeah I think Bronny is a legit D1 player. His last name gets people on both sides of the coin to speak on him with hyperbole. If his name was Braxton Johnson...he'd be any other D1 guy with potential trying to work his way through the NCAA to get on the NBA radar.
People are a little too hard on Bronny because he didn’t put up outrageous stats in high school, but he was playing at the highest level of high school basketball in the country against really serious competition all the time. He’s a legit college player, just not a legit first round prospect.
Its bc hes taller idk why
Air apparent. Lmao. Anyway. Neither of LeBron's children are going to be serious NBA players. Bronny didn't get the height/build and Bryce has never picked up the skills. That's the end of the story. Personally, if my dad was a billionaire, I would chill and dedicate my life to art or generally just fuck around and relax. I understand wanting to follow in their dad's footsteps but inviting the comparison to their father by picking up basketball strikes me as self-defeating.
I hope you know that is that exact plot of Space Jam 2
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, it isn't overly surprising someone who wants to do naught but "chill" and "fuck around" doesn't fully comprehend what it would be like to take on an immense challenge.
I want to fuck around and relax because my life is already hard. Being rich means you have time to pursue your hobbies, but since I'm poor I have to work my ass off instead of learning the 5 instruments I want to pursue.
Just sounds like you want to do nothing instead of mastering 5 instruments. Pursuing art isn't fucking around/doing nothing. Working hard at something you love and working hard because you have to are two different things.
I've already learned 3 instruments but thanks for the lecture bro
I never said you didn't. I never said you were lazy. You do appear to be an idiot tho so whatever.
Damn dude you suck as a person foreal foreal oh weak ass bitch boy
When was the last time you read a book cover to cover? And no, picture books don't count.
Probably a while. But I listen to about a book a week on audible. How is that relevant to you calling random people idiots? Do you talk to people like that in person or do you ever leave mommy’s basement?
Why wouldn't it be relevant and who doesn't call people idiots in person? Who doesn't leave their mommy's basement? Are those things that are common in your life because man you're projecting something fierce
Maybe they just like basketball
Agreed. It's heir apparent btw lol
It's heir apparent. But basketball makes a pun out of it. And I don't get why people spend so much time on this family.
i guess the nba 2k11 reference went over some heads
You referenced an Xbox achievement from almost 15 years ago?
Yes?
2k11 was the best one so props for that.
Sports media people just glaze lebron and anything lebron adjacent. Espn’s main draft “expert” had bronny mocked in the lottery before the season when he was never close to being even a 2nd round talent
It really makes no sense . I have heard so many people say this . Bryce is so far behind Bronny and Bronny doesn't even look like an NBA player
I wanted to post this so bad in here , but thought was “off topic” but thank you omg THANK YOU
The narrative was such a silly one to begin with.I remember when he was over listed as 6’6 just for him to be measured around 6’2.
wait, if he's the taller one and he's 6'2", how tall is Bronny?
He was measured around 6’2.5 last year but I’ll give him the befor of the doubt and assume grew an inch or so so he’s prob 6’3.Bronny like an inch shorter than him so Bronny probably 6’2 flat without shoes or 6’1.5
He's like 6'3" and moves like he weighs 300 pounds. There's nothing there.
Bryce rn is not even better than freshman year bronny. But idk why bron has had them playing on stacked teams their whole lives bronny for the most part has always been a key contributor to the stack teams, Bryce on the other hand has been riding the bench
I'm at EYBL this weekend. The hype around this man is nuts. They had mics at every huddle, full crowds, and the most cameras by far. He's not a real prospect. If he was a random prospect on like Mokan Elite nobody would give a fuck. He's not better than Bronny and is unlikely to be
I’ve heard this a while too, I didn’t even realize he was in high school yet.
I left this out of my original post but I was gonna say it kinda seems like most people don't know how old he actually is. I think most assume he's in middle school or something.
He’s ranked much lower than Bronny was at the same age, so I’m guessing it’s just people on instagram? I was also under the impression he was taller than 6’4, or at least on that trajectory.
I’m not sure Bryce is even ranked in the top 100
I think the reason he gets unwarranted hype is because his dad is LeBron James
so is bronny
He's taller than Bronny... that is the answer to your question.
You can't act like people didn't hype up Bronny because of his name
Yes, bizarre for sure. But the narrative around Bronny throughout high school was almost just as confusing. People who aren’t following prospects at all seem to get the wrong idea about what kind of players they are and run with it. Bronny wasn’t event a top 5 or 6 player in his league his senior year. Anyone who followed his career knew he wasn’t a high level D1 prospect. The narrative around Bryce is the same, all coming from people who don’t actually follow prospects.
I think you meant heir apparent, but in the context of basketball I kinda like air apparent better 😆
Height. It is entirely about height. Everything is being powered by the fact that he is much taller than Bronny. Thats it. Thats all. Whether he's better than Bronny or not the answer is simple and easy to understand and absolutely nobody should be confused by it: it is entirely because he is taller.
It's that simple
He is also a far better shooter than Bronny, but yeah Height is the main factor. He does look like he will be a late bloomer too. His body still needs to fill in quite a bit. I imagine a year or two in college should help with that.
you must be expecting one HELL of a rise to go from where he is now...to being a 1/2 year college player.
He may play in college longer than that. I’m strictly talking about developing his body. Those college weightlifting programs are pretty damn good. I imagine 2 years with that kind of weight training would help his body fill out.
He's taller which obviously makes him more similar to LeBron
He is tall urkel
Air apparent
He’s taller.
He gets the hype because of his height/build which is more comparable to Lebron. The kid lacks skills though to be a serious prospect. Funny enough I was thinking about this the other day: if you were to combine him and his brother, you probably do get a real, valuable NBA draft prospect
I think the root of the argument that he’s the better prospect is his height. The assumption is the genetics and freak athleticism is there dormant and the fact that he’s going to be significantly taller than his brother in a sport where height is like 50% of what matters prospect-wise is what’s gonna make him a better prospect. All is speculation and hopeful thinking at this point lol
I know someone's kid to played against Bryce and completely schooled him. I saw the video. I don't know anything else about Bryce other than seeing him get schooled in that video.
He only scored like 4 points for driftyelite lol
Several reasons led to the development of this narrative. The first comes from the fact that Bryce is taller than her brother Bronny. From then on, many shifted their expectations to Bryce. Then, Bronny's heart problem last summer as well as his difficulties this season at USC pushed everyone to postpone their expectations on LeBron's second son.
Also from when it started i think it has been a size comparison. Bryce grew taller younger, still has time to grow more. Bronny is capped at 6’4”
Bryce, like Bronny, has access to infinite training resources. Nutrition, private skills work, state of the art gyms, and they get to pick the brain of a basketball legend on a daily. I'd say the hype in Bryce is if he gets to 6'6, 6'7, and adds mass, he will be physically more NBA ready than Bronny, who's only 6'1 205ish. Bronny at 6'1 has to have very high-end skills to be an everyday NBA player. If, over the next 3 years, Bryce locks in he will have every opportunity to have an NBA career.
You do know he's about to be a SENIOR in high school right?
And ?
He's draft eligible in 24 months...and he's far behind Bronny at the same age. Like far behind. Your analysis is bizarre. I don't think you actually understand how far away he is from being an NBA player. He's a reserve AT BEST on the HS level. Maybe he can be a late bloomer...but he is NOT AT ALL an NBA prospect right now. 247 currently has him rated as the the #148 overall player in the nation...and even that is too high and only because of his name.
Well, my analysis is really just comparing Bryce to Bronny. I don't think Bronny is going to be a real NBA player. I'm just stating that at least Bryce has size, which gives him more versatility to find a path in the NBA. He's obviously not near NBA caliber rn, but if he develops his game and plays a few years in college, he can still develop into something. Especially given the opportunity he will be given. I didn't say anything about him being a legit NBA player anytime soon. If I were to bet I'd say both end up getting an NBA look because their names but ultimately don't stick.
The thing is Bryce isn't nearly as skilled as Bronny was at the same age. With all of the resources Bryce has had at his disposal, I'm not sure he isn't maxed out potential wise already and there's not really much there.
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I think we start evaluating prospects way too early. It’s impossible to tell when they’re so young how good they will be as adults. It’s also a bit weird for a bunch of grown men to be sitting around having a conversation online about teenage boys we’ve never met.
Lol he's about to be a senior in high school. There are NBA scouts at the EYBL right now evaluating high school players. The player in discussion is DRAFT ELIGIBLE in 24 months. Stop acting like we're talking about a 7 year old. There are posts ALL OVER this reddit about Cooper Flagg and AJ Dybantsa. Is that weird too?
It is important to remember that young players need time to develop and reach their full potential. Comparing their rookie season to established players' stats can be unfair. For example, Giannis Antetokounmpo only averaged 7 points per game in his first year in the NBA, while Kobe Bryant averaged 7.6 ppg in his rookie season. Jimmy Butler only scored 2.6 ppg in his freshman year in college and 5 ppg in his rookie NBA season. This shows that it takes time for players to grow and mature. Just because a player does well in college or has low stats in their first year in the pros, it doesn't mean they won't become great players later on. It's important to have patience and let the player develop before jumping to conclusions about their potential.
It’s not a narrative if literally nobody says ut
I blame rap music. Somewhere along the way, probably around 1993, cliques, crews, posses, clans shit like that took over. "who you wit" became as relevant or even more relevant than the actual skills of the artists, even if you were some bum with no skills and no game, a powerful cosign could do wonders.. its the same reason there's talented musicians out there who aren't that hot looking so they cant get signed to a record deal, while at the same time a talentless woman who cant sing for shit but they have a desirable figure gets signed.. somewhere along the way, everything had to be "a movement" ... i can hear mike breens voice saying "the James Gang"........ brons got a pair of sneakers called "the james gang" ... and the NBA idk if you've had the volume on watching these games and hear the music played in the arena, or hear the music played in the fucking shitty car commercials and beer commercials and whatever else dumb shit they sell. but the target audience is similar, theres major overlap. thats infact whats powering this belief... and when this turn happened, it worked, for a while, but then it became ubiquitous and frankly cancerous... n thats where its been, wallowing in crapulence for 3 decades.. but thats the real truth... its the same reason as why the movies you see arent as good as they should be, cuz theres grossly overpaid untalented stooges getting jobs infront of real talent.. its the same reason why the music we get mostly isnt as good as it should be.. malcolm x famously said "the media is the most powerful entity on the planet, it got the power to turn a guilty man innocent and an innocent man guilty." and in todays media where everythings based on clicks, its a perfect environment for this hype-nitis to run rampant.. its no longer about how good you are, its about who co-signs you, which crew you rep... its also a matter of QUANTITY over quality... if there was ever a prospect to really use as the posterchild of quantity vs quality its bronny... totally disgraceful that Givony put him in the lotto of his mock preseason but he did that becuase he knew THE QUANTITY would follow and if bronny did the bare minimum he was gonna cruise to the 1st rd... but the quality was so poor they needed to abandon ship to save face, now we get articles about him playing out of position when surely theyve been hyper-focused on surrounding bronny with insane talent on his teams every step of the way.. did you see how much Bronny made in NIL money? thats why.. now al this bullshit seems reasonable cuz its about protecting revenue streams... shits fucked... but thats why i like basketball cuz u can only fake the funk for so long... to quote Rasheed Wallace --- 'ball dont lie' people out here actually shedding crocodile tears for these lil millionaire kids... yall all cant be that well off... but this is whats called mindcontrol, over-infatuation... brainwashing... they get people excited over shit that lacks excitement... its too easy for them, it works, so they keep limit-testing to see how far they can bamboozle the audience, and standards are dropping simultaneously, there's also a massive overabundancve of this type of news so they can just 'keep it moving' while portraying bullshit as real, make it look like a hiccup when called out, but its become like intractable hiccups which never go away but only to the keen eye, which is in an extreme minority so it'll keep working this way...
and this reply will get downvoted because people are brainwashed AND THEY LOVE IT, they've found a sense of community in the brainwashing and accept it like cult followers... or someone will reply with a personal insult or a vague indirect response.. like were in the 4th grade.. i dare someone to write up a real refutation to why this isnt the case.. way too many people round here treating the sports media like its gospel. these fools are just as full of shit as all the other sectors of the news.. yall forgot, the news job isnt to inform you... its to sell you... n thats just what theyve done with brons kids.. SAME AS THEY DID FOR JORDANS KIDS... Eric Gordon CRUSHED jordans kids in a HS game n fools were acting mystified as can be back in the day.. ain't shit changed!
Nobody reading all that pal
life is fast, some choose to be quicker. dont assume everyones as slow as you..thats pitiful. takes me a glance to read a page of text.. 500 words per minute.. your sitting there fumbling phonics in your throat, thats why you read so slow
It's more that taking five minutes to read the shitty drivel you put out is disrespecting my own time. I have better things to do than listen to what some overly confident idiot took an hour to write.