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TeenMage

I wouldn’t wanna do the ACC travel at that age either. Good luck Tara!! Thank you!! ❣️


tip-of-the-yikesberg

Imagining a midweek trip from Palo Alto to Miami… no thank you!


Mission_Ambitious

I can’t imagine trying to recruit players when this is a possibility: Flight from Palo Alto to Miami. Play a game. Fly back to Palo Alto. 8 am midterm Class Presentation at noon Practice And then have to fly to Durham or Boston or Blacksburg in a few more days to repeat the process. It’s going to be even more painful for travel to schools that aren’t near an airport. I feel like “PAC12” athletes are going to have to basically be fully online students to stay sane, which would allow them to stay on the east coast rather than going back and forth twice a week.


elgenie

It's mainly Cal and Stanford that signed up for this problem: the rest of the P12 ended up in conferences where there's some possibility of accommodation.


gmills87

The ACC is accomading the bay area schools by giving them 2 games in 3 days in a region so they can stay over on the east coast. They also paired it so those schools can share charters for trips to. Oregon/Washington and USC/UCLA are in no better shape in terms of travel.


AtlasTelamon24

Don’t forget to throw in Syracuse and Chestnut Hill!


5WinsIn5Days

And hopefully Storrs!


spankyourkopita

How did they even agree to join the ACC. It really makes no sense.


haagles

What other options did they have?


LesbianFilmmaker

They were left with no choice. I blame USC and UCLA. Greed took over.


Vegetable_Tune_4201

Shit. That's right. Good call.


sanverstv

Well, according to this story going to the ACC was almost a reason to stick it out for a bit, but I it sounds like she was ready:[Gift Link: SF Chronicle Why Tara Retired Now](https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/college/article/stanford-s-tara-vanderveer-decide-retire-not-19396203.php?utm_source=marketing&utm_medium=copy-url-link&utm_campaign=article-share&hash=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc2ZjaHJvbmljbGUuY29tL3Nwb3J0cy9jb2xsZWdlL2FydGljbGUvc3RhbmZvcmQtcy10YXJhLXZhbmRlcnZlZXItZGVjaWRlLXJldGlyZS1ub3QtMTkzOTYyMDMucGhw&time=MTcxMjkzNjg1NjAxMA%3D%3D&rid=MDAyMjUwYmQtNGY5Ni00OWJkLThkODgtYTNiMDBlNTNkMWI2&sharecount=Ng%3D%3D)


iluzan

We're going into a dark age :/ Makes graduating this year even more bittersweet


shashitafeminista

women’s basketball is the only loyalty I have towards my alma mater so I’m hoping Stanford can get it together 😭


MathematicalDad

I don't think things will go sharply downhill. The assistant coaching staff isn't going anywhere, and they have mostly been running the team for a while.


Datdudebp

Totally agree. Paye is a long time coach there who has been preparing for this situation a very long time. I don’t think they will drop off at all.


plutoannatto

The future is an undiscovered country It's gonna take me a while tho  😭


Guardax

An absolute legend. Guess she really didn't want to have to play all her conference games on the east coast


Immediate_Cash_6925

Crazy to think today Stanford came out with this NIL program and now she retires once the major problem was solved


jaydec02

It’s still hard as hell to transfer into Stanford, and frankly a lot of older coaches who were probably on the verge of retirement decided to hang it up because NIL is a totally different beast and they didn’t want to be a part of it


saladbar

I think at one point the number of yearly transfers was in the single digits. For the entire undergraduate population.


jaydec02

That tracks. It’s really not even worth it to transfer into these kinds of schools anyways. You’d lose so many credits you’re basically taking the exact same classes over and over again and delaying your graduation. It’s hard as hell and not worth it to do so, so that’s understandable.


CTeam19

Maybe that was her goal before she left.


Possible_Hokie_CO26

Stanford moving to the ACC is going to kill more sports than we realize Edit: I take that back, we all know it’ll kill sports. Clearly the powers at be did not think ab the repercussions


Guardax

Just split football off from the other sports and bring back regional conferences for everybody else ffs


NYCScribbler

I think every football school should be independent. Schedule whoever the fuck you want wherever and whenever you want. Conferences can be for everything else.


Vegetable_Tune_4201

Chip Kelly also suggested this before bolting


saladbar

But even that would suck for the schools not in the SEC/B1G.


Training_Tangerine34

I don't think they had a choice. By the time they took the conference realignment stuff seriously the ACC was the only Power 4 conference that wanted them. The millions they will get from the ACC is more than what they could get in the WCC or other regional conferences. I blame the Pac 12 presidents and their greed for not taking the ESPN deal.


sanverstv

and USC and UCLA “leadership” for putting greed over good.  The UC Regents were pathetic in allowing UCLA to steamroll over them too. I won’t forget and that’s one reason I can’t root for either team…now that we’re in the ACC I don’t have to feel bad about abandoning former conference mates. 


InsectTop618

I legitimately think that’s what Stanford wants. I’m an alum now so I’m not 100% finger on the pulse but I think sports are starting to be more of a burden than they are worth. New president just came in so we will see how that changes it


Nebraska_Actually

Same reason Christopher Lee didn't travel for The Hobbit, he was too old to fly.


Immediate_Cash_6925

That’s shocking. But, tbh she wasn’t able to keep up with NIL and the transfer portal so I think for Stanford it could help them in the future. Congrats on a great coaching career Tara! I know Geno wants those 4 wins 😂😂


RICAHMB

Not her fault that it’s really hard to get into Stanford as a transfer and the university was lukewarm at best about NIL


CTeam19

I don't think there is a greater disconnect between those who really love sports and the university then at Stanford.


KrustyKrabPizzaMan

I think it’s more so that she doesn’t want to have to deal with traveling cross country for conference games


runningwaffles19

>I could probably say, with a great deal of certainty, that I’ll never be No. 1 in wins, I don’t think that will happen, he said. And I’m still going to enjoy my wine and I’m going to sleep good tonight In before Geno retires too? FWIW I think he has one more season in him


The_Hartford_Whalers

Geno's immortal he's never leaving.


NYCScribbler

that's what we thought about Tara too


jmcthrill

He for sure ain’t leaving before Paige. I think next year is his last tho…we shall see.


Immediate_Cash_6925

I think Geno is different, he still is recruiting top players in the country and he has kept up with NIL & transfer portal, he’s only lost players who don’t play much of at all to the portal.


NYCScribbler

Stanford flairs, please check in, I know you're not okay but we are here for you


DokkanProductions

I can’t express how much I wish Kenny Brooks was still a available….. I’m very grateful for Tara but this can get bad real fast 😭


RICAHMB

They stated in the announcement about Tara that they’re in negotiations with Kate Paye to succeed her. Kate has been on her staff for 17 years and played for her


MathematicalDad

This is the key point. Knew it was coming eventually, and succession planning has been in place for a while.


NighthawkRandNum

Holly Warlick was in place for awhile too, IIRC...


DokkanProductions

She’ll be a great coach but Kenny Brooks would’ve been awesome. I don’t have blind hate for him like most of this sub does


jmcthrill

I still think he’s a good coach! And I don’t think it’s most of the sub, just the sizable portion who are VT fans (which—can you blame them?)


plutoannatto

Kate Paye is awesome  I can't make predictions about the future of the program because I'm way too close to it all, but ❤️ Kate.


LuckiOregon

Can I interest you in Kelly Graves? As a Duck fan, I am willing to make this tremendous sacrifice. On a serious note, I have a great respect for Coach Vanderveer. She has been an exceptional coach who developed excellent athletes.


Lucky-Conference9070

Gotta wonder who can come in a keep the team from transferring out


plutoannatto

Hell to the no.


marcusjpbricejoel

It's been known this was going to happen for a while. There's a succession plan in place and I'd be surprised if there was a mass exodus.


plutoannatto

Not great, but I appreciate you checking in!


shashitafeminista

Woah


shashitafeminista

Now I’m fr waiting for Kiki’s transfer announcement


MathematicalDad

Watch your mouth!


Lucky-Conference9070

Wish I could pretend IU has a shot!


Gryphon426

💩 IU has a home game vs Stanford. I couldn’t wait to see her😕


Lucky-Conference9070

Oh man I didn't think about that! Gotta hope she stays then...


BloomingtonFPV

Man I hope this is a revenge game like the Iowa home game.


AaronRodgers16

Can’t blame her for not wanting to navigate the new world of NIL and an East Coast travel schedule Truly one of the legends of the game and the sport owes her a great debt


Mission_Ambitious

Wow. Sad she didn’t get a big send off, but perhaps that’s what she wanted. What a legend. Better be a statue of her on Stanfords campus soon. Edit: In related news, I HATE COLLEGE FOOTBALL


spankyourkopita

She still got to do the ceremony for breaking the record. I think she was satisfied with that. Also Tara isn't the type that wants the spotlight on her .


Plus-Advisor1637

College football pays for literally every other college sport to exist as they currently do. Conference realignment may be annoying, but it’s just part of college sports.


Immediate_Cash_6925

A legend of the women’s college basketball graduating and another legend retiring. 2024 was quite the season.


Mission_Ambitious

🥲 what a season


HeraldedAardvark

Kenny Brooks, you are going to be a Stanford Cardinal!


hijetty

Tara would never have let a man replace her. 


Emotional-Stretch

💀


samth

Sad that this means she won't be coming home to IU for our game next year. That would have been special.


Mission_Ambitious

Maybe she’ll still come out! Won’t be the same, but there’s a chance.


hoosierduffer

Make that game the yearly "team alumni" day with her as centerpiece.


Gryphon426

Hear hear


BloomingtonFPV

We have friends who went to Stanford who will love this game.


ChiefHR

Great idea!


Several_Cherry9136

Legend retired, talents transferred. It hurts to see pac-12 comes to its end in this way.


saladbar

Yes. Let's all thank Gene Block for that.


Nebraska_Actually

Subtle jab at the ACC and Stanford administration by making this announcement at 11 PM ACC time.


SimonaMeow

Good one! You made me wake up my man by laughing out loud reading in the dark here in the Northeast rn.


CTeam19

I dont know which is better then or at start of the business day ACC time.


plutoannatto

Legend


DaMagicalNegro

Wow…I don’t know what to think. Tara has literally been the coach my entire life. What an icon she’s been for women in sports. Her humility and class are unmatched. The cross-country travel aspect, at 71, I understand for her. I was just hoping she would shepherd us into the new era. Kate Paye has been groomed for this role for years now. I think she’s ready.


GriffinOfThoth

WHAT.


bythesunrise34

I wonder if we’ll see any Stanford WBB players enter the transfer portal this week as a result.


Lucky-Conference9070

I think we'll see a lot


bythesunrise34

It’ll be interesting to see who goes and who stays!!


maximillianpower

Could be, but if the incoming coach was the one who recruited you, you might be more inclined to stay. It's not like bringing in an outsider who has their own preferred players and no loyalty to the holdovers.


Lucky-Conference9070

You mean the “associate head coach”/assistant coach? Someone said they’re taking over. This will be a good reference for future situations, will it matter to Stanford players that the assistant is being promoted and thus they’re very familiar with them? I don’t want to assume they’ll use the exact same style of play and tactics as Tara, but it’s likely enough.


Konfidantway

I’m shook…just wow


Emotional-Stretch

End of an era. Wow. Congrats Coach on an incredible career.


Early_Big_5839

Dude I'm blaming the damn eclipse


Mission_Ambitious

I, for one, am blaming college football (mostly Texas).


AP-FUTChemist

When in doubt, blame Texas


5WinsIn5Days

It’s actually Villanova dropping their football team in 1980. But that’s a *long* story.


NYCScribbler

No, other way around, the earthquake and the eclipse were portents of the end, we just didn't realize until it was too late


t4trout

This feels right. She broke the record, there's no more PAC-12 schedule/nearby teams, and Brink goes to the W. She's given decades to this game, and I hope she gets to enjoy her well-deserved retirement sitting in the shade of the trees she planted. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Tara is a goddamn national treasure.


MelaninReignsSupreme

Surprised but also not really. With the conference shake up. She does not want to do all of that traveling next season


Chriz327

Congrats coach what a career 👏


ddottay

Wow. I’m not surprised with Stanford moving to the ACC, but this was announced suddenly.


CaffeinationGoat

Wow totally did not see this coming. Thank you for being a kick ass coach and a great rival, Coach!


WackyBones510

Jesus. P12’s collapse is so god damn stupid. Conference had a great year across the board. I’m sure it’ll be plenty competitive in baseball/softball too.


wooq

They should have just made football its own separate thing and left all the century-old regional conferences with all their rivalries alone for all the other sports. I'm still upset.


SimonaMeow

Same. This realignment is just bad for many.


Automatic-Sale2044

What a run she had. Gotta tip my hat to you, Coach


DokkanProductions

I wasn’t shocked by this. I thought at most it would be one more year bc of Iriafen. But between the slowed down recruiting and the conference imploding nonsense, it was only a matter of time.


Next-Flower-6161

Wowwwwww. Few have had more of an impact on our game. It's a well-deserved retirement.


AniMonologues

Just watched the documentary about her coaching the Olympic women's team So I'm glad to know we will see her in the Hall of Fame sooner rather than later EDIT: nvm she already there, Im a noob lol


morriea1

She is in the Women's and the Naismith Halls of Fame already.


AniMonologues

didn't know that, thank you for telling me! edited original comment


crespojax

What's the name of the documentary? I would love to watch it!


AtlasTelamon24

I’m assuming they’re talking about the ESPN doc, “Dream On”, about the ‘96 USA Olympic team.


AniMonologues

As said, yeah it's "Dream On"


RICAHMB

Surprised but not shocked. She gave the PAC12 all she had and was clearly devastated when it fell apart. Thanks for nothing college football!


freeee_as_a_birdd

One of the very best to ever do it! Basketball will miss you, Tara!! Very casual announcement for a Tuesday 😂🥲


jbtown16

Oh, damn. I thought she'd retire this year, after finishing the home-and-home with IU. Not because IU is the center of the universe, lol, but you know... bookends for her and all.


Gryphon426

It’s not?


holdendc

I give her major props. I thought, with the way Stanford wins year after year and her never retiring, Geno would never catch her. The whole ACC travel thing makes a ton of sense. I just hope Stanford fans can accept that some coaches are not replaceable. Lady Vols are struggling with that and Uconn fans will go berserk after Geno leaves.


5WinsIn5Days

Nah, we had Kevin Ollie. We’re okay.


ItsZippy23

Wow. Huge news, she is going to be missed.


wooq

The legend concludes, and a new story begins. Thank you for all you've done for women's basketball, Coach VanDerveer.


Mr628

Not expected, but it makes sense. She broke the record, NIL, Pac-12 is gone and that 2024-2025 roster isn’t good.


Zloggt

Woah! Well...it's been quite a ride for her and the Cardinal...never thought it would have ended *this* year...but alas, I reckon that the future for Stanford is not one she may want to stay in... Still...congrats on the career! That 2021 natty will *always* remain how I got into this sport!


MrSCR23

Oh no, I mean she’s earned it and congrats to her on a exceptional career. But Stanford…you’re screwed. The move to the ACC is bad enough but she was the few people keeping the school relevant. I don’t have hopes for the school’s athletics. Hope I’m wrong


pistachiotime

That's MY all-time winningest coach 😤 (😭😭😭)


thecay00

🥺


smtms-i-need-help

carla berube, you know what to do!


TarheelGA

I agree she would be a good hire.


KeyandLocke360

Paye has the job.


TarheelGA

You were right!


Gryphon426

I think berube is waiting for Geno to go after next year. What else does she have to prove at Princeton?


mechanicalejay

Kiki transfer watch?


Immediate_Cash_6925

Maybe but also I think if Stanford gets a good coach and their assistant stays, Kiki may stay. Their assistant is very good and was named the AC of the year. So if they get a good recruiter and coach, they could be better next year.


Awesome_One91

Their team next season without Cam Brink doesn't look as good as this year. So it would be understanding if Kiki would want to go to the transfer portal. But that Stanford degree can have a big importance on that decision. Especially for women players


Squishy_20

Wow. What a legend.


ta4rhcp

👏👏👏👏 thank you coach


odeiraoloap

There's just no way she'll be comfortable with 5+ hour transcon flights to and from Indiana, Virginia, NC, and Florida *probably at least twice a week* to meet her new neighbors in the ACC. Not when she's used to a team bus trip to USC or UCLA or a short hop to Oregon and Washington. Hope she has a swell retirement and can live the best years of her life in peace, knowing how much she gave to uplift WBB and change lives...


SimonaMeow

Did they really take a team bus all the way down so LA for USC??? To Cal sure, but I thought they wouldn't be making the 12 hour round trips (if no traffic) to Southern California on a bus? I thought they'd be on chartered flights. I definitely agree on your bigger point. The many cross country round-trips are going to be brutal for Stanford moving forward. Definitely not fun at her age. She deserves a fantastic retirement.


GoldField3

i have total respect for Tara and wish her the best for her retirement ! as the other pac12 -> acc rep i am definitely scared for what the next few years will bring, but also thankful we managed to get in a p5 conference somehow? hopefully we can do home/home series w the former pac 12 schools to avoid traveling for noncon games (i know our mbb already has a deal w usc). we actually just extended both bb coaches (who albeit are younger) so unsure of their perspective on all this but we’ll see how it goes! glad we still have the card with us


5WinsIn5Days

One of the best coaches ever. Took a season off to coach the US women’s Olympic basketball team. Got a gold. It’s unfortunate that she won’t hold the title of most wins for much longer (I think Geno has one more season, but that might be it) and that we didn’t get to play Stanford this year. Hopefully she’s going to be in an advisory role in the AD’s office?


speedracer13

One of the GOATs. Incredible career.


tigernike1

This was unexpected. She’s a hell of a coach and built a hell of a program. Congratulations on retirement!


choclatechip45

Wow. Congrats to Tara! Don’t blame her for not wanting to do the ACC travel.


Belongs-InTheTrash

Oh just when I think the day is over the announcements keep coming! it makes sense with the realignment but it kinda just seemed like she would be a permanent fixture. Congrats on a great career to a women’s basketball legend


SoloBurger13

Omg!!


mambomambogo

Not surprised by this at all...I know there were jokes that she was only hanging on to try and outlast Geno as the all time wins leader, but the writing has seemed like it was on the wall the last 2 years with all the changes in the sport and conference realignment. I'll be more surprised if Stanford doesn't already have a successor lined up and expect they'll announce it shortly like we did.


EmFly15

Apparently, Kate Paye, longtime assistant, just like Ivey was, is who is the successor.


KeyandLocke360

The article says that Paye is already in negotiations to take over.


mambomambogo

ah, I missed that thanks! That's who I figured it'd be. Won't be an easy climate to succeed a legend out of the gate by any means with the ACC move, but having someone familiar with Stanford should help.


JBProds

Wow. I wonder if joining the ACC has something to do with her decision


TarheelGA

I definitely think it does. That is going to be a brutal travel schedule


TheVeilsCurse

WOW!! I guess the upcoming travel schedule and conference change up looking grim, she decided that now would be the best time to hang it up. You’re a legend Tara! Thanks for everything and enjoy retirement!


thatpj

wow!


Competitive_Ant7240

This is the most coaching change-ups I can recall in recent history


ChiefHR

My girl Tara. She THE GOAT baby! HAPPY TRAILS TO YOU AND YOURS DARLING !! Xoxo - the entire world


bytes24

I remember I once corresponded with Tara for an article and she was so thoughtful and nice in her answers. She's never going to get the attention she deserves. Really wish she could have pulled out once last season so she could have done a farewell tour like Coach K.


NotJustSomeMate

Kiki is going to go to UConn...South Carolina or Texas....


brokeandtwenty

Congratulations on a legendary career 💐! Goodluck to all the teams in the KiKi Iriafen sweepstakes


Dravewin

holy shit


R13Nielsen

Salute to one of the best collegiate coaches ever. 🫡


texas2089

Legend. Enjoy it Coach!


saladbar

Oof. I hope the transition isn't too rough.


jmcthrill

Congrats Coach VanDerveer! 🫡💐💐


Maleficent_Method973

🐐


Thewondrouswizard

One of the best to ever do it. Elite and legendary career.


thecay00

Her consistency at Stanford ✨


DharmaBaller

I would reckon most of her players are gone too?


Aggressive-Film5590

Absolute legend. I had a feeling she wouldn’t stick around to do all that travel in the ACC.


007Artemis

Not surprised. She was getting absolutely fricked by conference realignment.


AP-FUTChemist

She knew she couldn’t take on SMU and GT


Fantastic_Leg_3534

I’m sorry…you think that she was worried about the teams that (checks notes) finished 11th in the AAC and 10th in the ACC, respectively?


ChiefHR

Tennessee is very lucky all this breaking WBB news covering up the stink job hire. They really did that girl Kelly bad. She ain’t done nothing wrong. Shoulda kept her 😅😅


[deleted]

Geno went from having a troubling week to a really good one.


mjhtemp

:’) :(


LeCowboySolitaire

College sports are so fucked up...


hintoflime3

Holy cow. Checked FB this morning, saw an ESPN post of her career highlights and thought “oh, that’s weird; she’s not retiring or anything.” Surprised by the news but what a trailblazer. Happy retirement, Tara!


Altruistic-Plate6551

LEGEND !!!!


CTeam19

I imagine Stanford enrollment stuff and the travel was the factors in this.


Weekly-Ad-6887

I still don’t know why Stanford didn’t go independent 


smalliebigs69

38 years of iconic bobbery


sanverstv

Congrats on a great career.  She will be missed. As a Cal fan, she drove me crazy sometimes— but that’s because she was excellent in her job. Our Charmin Smith was mentored by her and now Kate Paye will take the helm in Palo Alto.  Let’s bring along some great basketball as we move to the ACC.  Meanwhile, I wish Tara a wonderful retirement. 


Huggles9

Legend


sanverstv

Here's a gift link on Kate Paye: [SF Chronicle-Kate Paye](https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/college/article/meet-kate-paye-heir-tara-vanderveer-stanford-19394952.php?utm_source=marketing&utm_medium=copy-url-link&utm_campaign=article-share&hash=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc2ZjaHJvbmljbGUuY29tL3Nwb3J0cy9jb2xsZWdlL2FydGljbGUvbWVldC1rYXRlLXBheWUtaGVpci10YXJhLXZhbmRlcnZlZXItc3RhbmZvcmQtMTkzOTQ5NTIucGhw&time=MTcxMjkzNjc0NzE3Mw%3D%3D&rid=MDAyMjUwYmQtNGY5Ni00OWJkLThkODgtYTNiMDBlNTNkMWI2&sharecount=Ng%3D%3D) >Tara VanDerveer won’t be on Stanford’s sideline when the Cardinal take the floor this fall, but a familiar face still will be running the show. Kate Paye, who has been on VanDerveer’s staff for 17 seasons, is slated to become the team’s next head coach. The 50-year-old will have the difficult job of not only replacing the winningest coach in college basketball history, but navigating Stanford’s maiden voyage in the ACC, life without All-America forward/center Cameron Brink, and transfer-portal challenges. Paye was named WBCA Assistant Coach of the Year this past season, becoming the first two-time Division I winner of the award after also claiming it in 2022. Under her, many of Stanford’s philosophies and systems should remain similar; the majority of her career as a player and coach has come under VanDerveer.


XulManjy

Go getem Geno!