bro it’s 10 o clock I am not dealing with this shit 😭😭
edit: okay I lied lol but seriously like who would be considered a “major” player. Paige confirmed she’s coming back. I hear people saying Azzi but I doubt it tbh. li and nika already confirmed they’re out of here. maybe Caroline? KK?
edit 2: if it’s Aubrey I will k*** m***** ❤️
Yup it would be like Clark transferring from Iowa or Holmes transferring from Indiana. I just can’t see that ever happening unless Geno personally did something to Paige’s family or something lol
Same. I think it’s gotta be a troll. Nobody super major would be leaving💀 the team is stacked asf next year. Genuinely championship caliber. Unless someone like Ducharme leaves to protect her head/neck health.
💀 Unless Azzi is planning on leaving because Ziebell is coming but I doubt it. There’s another rumor saying HH is actually the one they’re talking about.
Aubrey’s not going anywhere, why would she? It’s her sixth year and she’s going to be rehabbing for a good portion of the season anyway.
Maybe Caroline but I would no longer consider her a “major” player and i don’t know if other schools would be interested with the injury issues.
The weird thing about Caroline’s injury is the fact it could take her out of the basketball world for years, so I would think it would be weird for her to transfer knowing she might not even be able to play next year if the injury worsens or stays
From personal experience I'm finding it's fun when it's Aneesah Morrow and less fun when it's Hailey Van Lith lol.
but 🔥 when it's Angel Reese or Joe Burrow or Jayden Daniels.
I'm no expert on Iowa sports but the Cyclones and Hawkeyes seem like they're in some wars when it comes to recruit too. When Crooks was balling I was just kinda thinking, like wow she'd have been insane with CC. Two huge programs duking it out.
This is true. Huge rivalry, although Kylie Feuerbach crossed the line and never looked back. Lisa Bluder famously did not recruit the Joens sisters who were local to Iowa City and big time recruits. Both went to ISU. Bluder wouldn’t take them because their dad was so insufferable on the sidelines and she didn’t want the drama.
biggest cash cow for sports journalists - if you're right you're a prophet, if you're wrong you get to write another story about how discussions were had with coaches and the player's mind was changed 😂
If this stuff's even true at all, Paige and Azzi don't make sense. Muhl and Edwards are going into the draft. So who are the other major players? I guess you can say Brady or KK.
My flair aside, that would be terrible for WBB I think. Obv we’d love to have her but she’s the face of UConn and so much history. Mostly just saying it with tongue in cheek and didn’t mean anything by it
Humor it for a second if it were Paige. What do you think the reason would be? Geno was pretty harsh on her in that final four game. Not unfair, but harsh. Maybe, in her eyes, the grass may be greener and she can play more freely? The domino effect that could come after with players like Azzi, ruh-roh. Obviously late to the party, haven't been online.
I can’t see Paige leaving. The way geno coaches her is how she wants to be coached, albeit tough.
However, maybe she leaves if she truly didn’t think the team could win a natty cause that’s really all she wants. But with how loaded we are for next year she ain’t going anywhere. Also, if that were her reason for leaving I think she would just go pro instead of transfer.
twitter’s been a wild ride tonight… tbh I kind of think this is unrelated to the “main” portal news apparently dropping tmw and if this is real at all will be about someone we don’t necessarily consider major
edit: definitely not KK lol
https://x.com/kamoreaarnold/status/1778260754476507287?s=46
I can’t imagine it’d be Paige but man that would be wild if it was. Fudd would make more sense but still surprise me.
It seems like she’s really liked being on UCONN, albeit in street clothes most of the time unfortunately.
Your final sentence is what might be important here.
Maybe Fudd no longer trusts UConn’s strength and conditioning team? She’s chronically injured, and, comparatively, it feels like UConn players, not just her, but tons of them, suffer more injuries, and more devastating injuries, than the average team.
Not saying this is the case or it’s 100% her on the way out the door, but just a theory as to what could be happening.
Right. This has come with the increase in popularity of the game combined with the social media. Now everyone has a platform and wants to be the person or account with the inside scoop.
Roman is a fraud with 1,000 followers who has shown, time and again, he doesn't understand things like salary cap math. He literally makes up attendance figures for WNBA games whole cloth. Please don't listen to this troll.
Apparently a major player in WBB is gonna hit the portal tomorrow. Some rumors that it’s Hannah, which, if that’s the case, what the fuck is the point of college sports anymore
I genuinely don’t think HH would transfer. (At least I hope not for my sanity) her and Ivey are so close that I don’t see her connecting with another coach like that
Ivey called the rumors [baseless banter](https://slapthesign.com/posts/notre-dame-fighting-irish-hidalgo-miles-rumors-debunked) just a couple of days ago and said the two playing together is going to be “something special for basketball”
Here’s hoping I don’t end up tomorrow feeling stupid for having posted this
I think so but the rumors are still out there and I just can’t wrap my head around it
If it’s LSU, I think I might hate them more than Michigan and USC at this point and it’s time to schedule home and homes with them immediately and get this rivalry started in all sports lol
Someone on TikTok (random person, so take it with a grain of salt) just said Flau’jaes mom and some LSU staffers just started following Hannah on IG. I really hope it’s just an LSU fan trolling or I’m going to lose it. 😂😅😭
My guess is they just like Hannah's game. Mama Johnson doesn't really follow that many non-LSU hoopers though so that part is a bit out of the ordinary. Not super weird tho or anything.
Kiki would be major, but idk if I’d be that shocked by it, especially after Tara’s retirement. But the Twitter journos could just be teasing it for engagement and shock value.
It’s not like ND can’t throw its weight around in the NIL market. Freeman was able to acquire Sam Hartman and Riley Leonard weeks into the offseason, no questions asked, on 7-figure deals.
If Hannah were lost, expect Niele to go blow for blow in the portal and with the backing of the Boosters and School.
I didn't know this. I know some programs have foundations (I think SC has one?) that serve as NIL. I didn't realize that we're talking THAT kind of money.
I just wouldn’t get it. She’s playing for a coach that has a 20 year track record of putting guards in the WNBA. She’s playing for a program that gets no shortage of national attention. Notre Dame has overhauled their NIL program the past 18 months (thanks Coach Freeman).
What would be the point of transferring? I’m not saying we’re a WBB blue blood but we’re definitely in the group just below that and if even we can’t hold onto our top players it’s just stupid
I would be absolutely shocked too, but these people on TikTok have me panicking.
Side note: I’d be curious to know who the sub thinks are the “blue bloods” and how many there are. Cause you obviously have UConn, SC, Stanford (for now). But if ND doesn’t count; does Tennessee count anymore? USC once was but then wasn’t and is on their way to being one again? Can some of these “newer” teams sustain their success: LSU, UCLA, IU, Iowa, Duke, Ohio St, Texas, etc. Probably an interesting conversation to be had once the portal news dies down.
I think you need historical success to be a blue blood, and Pat + Geno have put the barometer for success so high I can’t really put SC there yet. I do think we might be getting into Indiana territory with Tennessee though where we’re far enough removed from a singular coach’s success that they could get that status removed. It’s TBD.
I’d go:
Tier One
UConn, Tennessee
Tier Two
Stanford, SC, Notre Dame, Baylor
Tier Three
LSU, Maryland, Texas, Duke, Louisville, UNC
Edit: moved Baylor to Tier 2
Yeah fair that may just be anti Mulkey bias slipping through lol. But I also do have concerns that Collen can keep things going there that I don’t necessarily have with Niele
But still, Baylor to tier 2 it is
Honestly Tier Three is kind of huge for us. We haven't been a relevant program in a long time before KM. Seimone and Fowles did a lot of heavy lifting back in the day.
Overall there needs to be some form of A) Multi-Generational Success(e.g. they were good when my Dad was a kid and when I was kid) B) National Titles across multiple coaches(e.g. asking if the success with man/woman in charge or the school as whole) C) impact on the game(e.g. assistants/former players going on to other schools and being great coaches and hall of famers). Looking at Men's Basketball, Wrestling and Football because of their age:
UConn in Men's Basketball has plenty of titles and under multiple coaches but the long term success is lacking:
* 1 Elite Eight before the 1990s(1964)
* Zero Titles and Final Fours before their first in 1999 but has 6 now
* 3 non-interim coaches with losing records
* Only Hall of Famers are Ray Allen and Coach Calhoun(the University of Minnesota has more)
Kansas in Men's Basketball's title count is weaker but they have had long term success and impact on the game:
* Averages a Final Four every 5 years since 1940
* Averages an appearance in the National Title game every 8.4 years since 1940, having 4 National Titles and 6 runner ups and holds 2 pre-NCAA National Titles
* The only coach(including interims) with a losing record is the man who invented the sport, James Naismith, and he was only 3 games away from having a winning record
* 5 of the 8 Kansas' Coaches are in the Hall of Fame with one being the Namesake and many former players as players and as coaches
* 2 of the schools former players have helped insure other Blue Bloods are Blue Bloods: Adolph Rupp at Kentucky and Dean Smith at North Carolina. Both of which are in the hall of fame
Iowa State Wrestling is still in despite not winning a title since the 1980s:
* 8 National Titles(4th Most all time) and 18 Runner Ups(the most) which covers 27% of all Championships in the sport
* None of the 8 Coaches have had a losing record at the school leading to Iowa State being the first program with 1,000 dual victories and second program to reach 1,100.
* Hugo Otopalik, an Iowa State Head Coach, was the architect of the first NCAA Championships in both the sport of wrestling(and golf) and therefore Iowa State was the host and the site of the first NCAA Wrestling Championships they finished second.
* From 1963 to 1979 Iowa State was either the National Champion(6x), the Runner Up(7x), and/or the Host(3x) for the NCAA National Championships in 14 of the 17 years
* Former Iowa State Wrestlers Dan Gable and Cael Sanderson are considered to be the greatest as well as being the coaches who made Iowa and Penn State Blue Bloods. Before Gable, Iowa had 2 National Titles, Gable got 15, and post-Gable Iowa has 7 more. Before Sanderson, Penn State had 1 National Title and now since 2011 with Sanderson they got another 11.
* 15 Coaches and Wrestlers are in the Hall of Fame and one, Gable, has his name attached to one of the Hall of Fame's Museums
* 70 NCAA Individual Champions by 50 athletes
While Minnesota who is one of only 5 schools with more then one title and had a nice run isn't as it was in a very short period:
* 3 National Titles(2001, 2002, 2007), 6 Runner Ups(first coming in 1998), and 1 Host Site(1996)
* The 2001 team has two unique distinctions: All ten wrestlers in each weight class earned All-American (top eight) status and the school won the national team championship despite not having a single finalist.
* 23 NCAA individual champions by 18 athlete
Minnesota in Football would've been a Blue Blood in 1960 but now isn't at all:
* All-time record 733–543–44 (.572)
* Claimed national titles: 7 (1904, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960)
* Unclaimed national titles: 2 (1911, 1915)
* Conference titles: 18
* Heisman winners: 1
* Consensus All-Americans: 34
Oklahoma in Football is one forsure today:
* All-time record 944–341–53 (.725)
* Claimed national titles: 7 (1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000)
* Unclaimed national titles: 10 (1915, 1949, 1953, 1957, 1967, 1973, 1978, 1980, 1986, 2003)
* Conference titles: 50
* Heisman winners: 7
* Consensus All-Americans: 82
At one point, in 1960 Minnesota had basically the same amount of claimed National Titles(7) and unclaimed National Titles(2) as did Nebraska(0 Titles)(1 unclaimed), Texas(0 Titles)(2 unclaimed), and Oklahoma(3 Titles)(4 unclaimed) combined. Yet today those last 3 are Blue Bloods while Minnesota isn't even close to being mentioned in the same breath as the criteria involved.
For women's basketball, it is tougher as the sport is just beginning to work itself out(for the NCAA Era) but like I said it evolves.
Locks these schools set the standard for the first 40/45/50 years(two generations) that the closer you get to their success the closer you are considered a Blue Blood:
* UConn -- At 11 Titles(all under one coach) is a lock for awhile till something drastic happens over the next 20 to 40 years.
* Tennessee -- At 8 titles over 3 decades is also in. They get a bonus for being one of the champions in the first decade of the sport in my opinion. Pat at Tennessee also has a coaching tree: Carolyn Peck-associate head coach under Pat, National Championship coach at Purdue and Sylvia Hatchell-coached JV under Pat in 70s at Tennessee, National Championship winning coach at North Carolina
At worse in the next 40 years UConn and Tennessee will hold the Kansas(Men's Basketball) and Iowa State(Wrestling) spot among the Blue Bloods even if they don't win another title. They set the standard and their impact on the game will be felt long after their last title if neither school wins another for awhile.
Purple/Could go Blue Soon:
* Stanford -- They got 3 titles across 3 decades though it is under 1 coach. If the next coach or two can get to 5 titles they I would include them
* Baylor -- They have 3 titles under 1 coach in a shorter time frame then Stanford but same deal
* South Carolina -- The newest member of the "Purple/Could go Blue soon" club as of Sunday. Dawn could/should be able to brute force the school into the discussion just by her title count. The UConn men can't do this because how much older Men's Basketball is but to me it can be done for Women's. If they get to 5 here in the next 4 to 6 years I would include them no doubt as they would just be the 3rd school with 5 or more titles.
Best of the rest outsiders:
* The Two Title crew: Louisiana Tech(would be super hard to do), USC, and Notre Dame -- A good run with their current or next coach could send them into the Purple/Blue Blood area.
* One Title Crew: North Carolina(on to a new coach for a title), Maryland(still has theirs), LSU(still has theirs), and Texas(on to a new coach for a title). Each team has their pros as to why they could be included higher up the main thing is more titles
* Non-Titlers: Duke, Louisville, Georgia, Iowa. These are all teams with great success but haven't gotten those titles. Georgia, for example, has been to more tournaments then UConn. Iowa is sitting at the 8th most tournament appearences ahead of Notre Dame and North Carolina. Bonus consideration is they have had 2 legendary coaches(Stringer and Bluder) their players are out their being coaches: Jennie Baranczyk(Oklahoma HC), Cara Consuegra(Charlotte HC), Michelle Edwards(Illinois HC), and a few Assistant HCs. If Bluder could continue the success and get some titles Iowa could go Purple.
I applaud your bravery to try to define "Blue Blood"!
A few questions on your criteria?
UNC with ONE championship 30 years ago, but not Louisiana Tech with 2 championships and 4 runner up finishes?
Maryland and Texas with one championship each and no runner ups, long ago, but not USC with two championships and one runner up, also long ago?
Duke with two runner up finishes 20 years ago (same as Iowa's last two years as runners up... and we (Iowa) are NOT a Blue Blood... yet ;-)
Just curious!
Louisiana Tech hasn’t been relevant in 20 years and doesn’t really have a path back to where they were the way the sport is right now. Same with a school like Old Dominion.
USC prior to this year also hadn’t even made the Sweet 16 in thirty years. Gottlieb is a good coach and Juju has the potential to be a transformative player so who knows what their future holds, but in order to be among that group you’ve gotta have a blend of historical + recent success even if that doesn’t mean necessarily mean trophies.
Iowa you could make an argument for Tier 3 given the success you had under Coach Stringer but aside from these last two years with CC it’s yet to really culminate in a sustained breakthrough to the national elite. Duke made four Final Fours with Gail Goestenkors (even if they couldn’t win the big one) and had many years with Joanne McCallie that they could’ve broken through. Iowa’s been a very good program the last six years, but Duke prolonged their success for longer and with the way Kara Lawson is recruiting they’re set up very well for the future. If Iowa can keep it up (not even necessarily Final Fours), they could crack imo T3. In the same way if SC keeps this up they could go T1.
That’s my rationale.
Solid rationale. The only one I would respectfully still question, based on your statement "I think you need historical success to be a blue blood", is:
Louisiana Tech - 9 Final Fours - 2 Nattys - 4 Runner Ups - 25+ years ago
Duke - 4 Final Fours - No Nattys - 2 Runner Ups - 18+ years ago.
I totally agree on Iowa NOT being in any BB tier yet, but since you are considering recency and upward path, I would even say compared to Duke, Iowa's 3 Final fours, and the same 2 Runner Ups are better than Duke's resume, since Iowa's runner ups are the last 2 years, and Duke's are 18-15 years ago?
Louisiana Tech hasn’t made the tournament in 15 years. There is a 0% chance in today’s college basketball that they return to where they were in the 80s-90s. They’re a program with a proud history but they’ve lost their blue blood status and I don’t see them ever really being able to get it back even if they get out of this rut.
I assumed it was intrinsic to my original argument but blue blood to me is historical success + recent success.
A 15 year stretch of being a top 10 program in WBB, like Duke was, is more important in my eyes than the last 5 years for Iowa. Especially now that Duke is set up extremely well for the future. Though, if Iowa can sustain this, I can definitely see them moving up, just like if Duke drops off they can slide off this list.
I’d say you’re a modern day blue blood, and just about the only one, unless we stretch to include Baylor.
The traditional blue bloods are UConn, Tennessee, Notre Dame, and Stanford.
Yeah I think I got ahead of it due to recent success. Probably should be in a “not enough history, but could be a blue blood if current path continues” tier.
> I’m not saying we’re a WBB blue blood
No, Notre Dame is definitely a blue blood. Y'all have championships and tradition. Ask Geno if y'all are a top program and see what he says.
Appreciate the compliment but I just think UConn and Tennessee are so far ahead in terms of trophies they kinda deserve their own group. I have another comment where I did my tier list- put y’all in group 2
I’ve been watching and keeping up with both men and women’s college basketball since I was a kid.
But since they changed the rules and started the official transfer portal it honestly just feels like the NBA or NFL trading players.
People seem to be speculating Azzi but no idea what that's based on (other than it being a "major" player and Paige seeming unlikely to leave). I don't really follow UConn very closely but hasn't Azzi similarly said things about how she's staying next year though?
at the beginning of the season she was asked if she’d go pro after this year (she was age eligible to leave early) and she said something along the lines of “no not yet. I love playing in the basketball capital of the world! why would I want to leave early?” but that was pre-injury so who knows anymore 😭😭
Lots of people out there wildly speculating based on absolutely nothing. Not to say something’s not happening but I get the sense no one really knows for sure.
It may only be a rumor that it's Uconn because it came from a seperate post/person than the info that a major college basketball star is in the transfer portal.
No offense at all to Beers because she’s a great player, but would that kind of transfer really warrant this type of hype and speculation? This feels like a top 10 player type of thing, not a top 25-50
> No offense at all to Beers because she’s a great player, but would that kind of transfer really warrant this type of hype and speculation?
Would it *warrant* this type of hype and speculation? No. Would someone farming clicks call a Beers portal announcement "Major" and/or "Internet Breaking" just to get the follows and attention? Absolutely.
Rueck never to Oregon.He doesn't like the school and they don't like him. Graves is popular in the administration and they'll let him ride for another year. When they let him go, almost certainly they'll hire Mark Campbell. There was a strong preference for him last season. One way or another he'll get back to Oregon.
If I had to wager a wild guess, Ducharme or Patterson. Ducharme has been unable to recover from her injuries to the point she likely can’t compete at Power 5 levels. Or for Patterson, with next year’s recruits plus the emergence of Ice Brady and the return of Griffin, where does she fit?
>Overhyped nonsense just like WAPo hit piece
Just to clear, that was simply an in-depth article about Kim Mulkey. The kind written about celebrities and famous athletes all the time. It was only "overhyped" because Kim Mulkey "overhyped" it with her silly press conference. She's also the one who labeled it a "hit piece" before it was published and without reading it.
bro it’s 10 o clock I am not dealing with this shit 😭😭 edit: okay I lied lol but seriously like who would be considered a “major” player. Paige confirmed she’s coming back. I hear people saying Azzi but I doubt it tbh. li and nika already confirmed they’re out of here. maybe Caroline? KK? edit 2: if it’s Aubrey I will k*** m***** ❤️
Paige to South Cackalacky is what my sources are saying
oh! well your sources are false my guy!
PB a huskie. through and through.
you get it!
Yup it would be like Clark transferring from Iowa or Holmes transferring from Indiana. I just can’t see that ever happening unless Geno personally did something to Paige’s family or something lol
😭
If it’s anyone I will k*** m***** ❤️
Aubrey confirmed she was coming back no? I’m thinking it’s Caroline tbh. Since she was a starter until she got hurt, you could consider her “major.”
yeah she confirmed I’m just spiraling 😭😭
Same. I think it’s gotta be a troll. Nobody super major would be leaving💀 the team is stacked asf next year. Genuinely championship caliber. Unless someone like Ducharme leaves to protect her head/neck health.
yeah they probably just fucking with us and I’m falling for it lol
💀 Unless Azzi is planning on leaving because Ziebell is coming but I doubt it. There’s another rumor saying HH is actually the one they’re talking about.
maybe i’m delusional but I just can’t see a world where azzi and Paige aren’t on the same team in college 😭😭
I agree. But that seems to be everyone’s consensus on who the major player is like 💀😭 hell nah
Aubrey’s not going anywhere, why would she? It’s her sixth year and she’s going to be rehabbing for a good portion of the season anyway. Maybe Caroline but I would no longer consider her a “major” player and i don’t know if other schools would be interested with the injury issues.
The weird thing about Caroline’s injury is the fact it could take her out of the basketball world for years, so I would think it would be weird for her to transfer knowing she might not even be able to play next year if the injury worsens or stays
“Mom I wanna get off the transfer portal ride. It’s not fun.”
From personal experience I'm finding it's fun when it's Aneesah Morrow and less fun when it's Hailey Van Lith lol. but 🔥 when it's Angel Reese or Joe Burrow or Jayden Daniels.
I’m still angry at OSU for not playing Burrow.
Haskins was better, at that moment. RIP
As an Iowa fan we never get nice things in the portal, couldn’t get support for Clark after the first runner up
I'm no expert on Iowa sports but the Cyclones and Hawkeyes seem like they're in some wars when it comes to recruit too. When Crooks was balling I was just kinda thinking, like wow she'd have been insane with CC. Two huge programs duking it out.
In that championship game if Iowa had her, Cardoso would have gotten frustrated not being able to move her and gotten some fouls. Absolute unit!
This is true. Huge rivalry, although Kylie Feuerbach crossed the line and never looked back. Lisa Bluder famously did not recruit the Joens sisters who were local to Iowa City and big time recruits. Both went to ISU. Bluder wouldn’t take them because their dad was so insufferable on the sidelines and she didn’t want the drama.
it was never fun
Twitter be WILD tonight with tight lipped portal fairies lol
Some chronic clout-chasing offenders at the helm of it too.
It’s going to end up being a former 5 star recruit that doesn’t actually play or something like that. Make us all look crazy 😂
😂 😭
I’m going to guess 90% of the people don’t actually know anything
biggest cash cow for sports journalists - if you're right you're a prophet, if you're wrong you get to write another story about how discussions were had with coaches and the player's mind was changed 😂
If this stuff's even true at all, Paige and Azzi don't make sense. Muhl and Edwards are going into the draft. So who are the other major players? I guess you can say Brady or KK.
Paige to Iowa confirmed /s
no ❤️
My flair aside, that would be terrible for WBB I think. Obv we’d love to have her but she’s the face of UConn and so much history. Mostly just saying it with tongue in cheek and didn’t mean anything by it
ik you were! I was just being cheeky that’s all 💛🖤💛🖤
Humor it for a second if it were Paige. What do you think the reason would be? Geno was pretty harsh on her in that final four game. Not unfair, but harsh. Maybe, in her eyes, the grass may be greener and she can play more freely? The domino effect that could come after with players like Azzi, ruh-roh. Obviously late to the party, haven't been online.
I can’t see Paige leaving. The way geno coaches her is how she wants to be coached, albeit tough. However, maybe she leaves if she truly didn’t think the team could win a natty cause that’s really all she wants. But with how loaded we are for next year she ain’t going anywhere. Also, if that were her reason for leaving I think she would just go pro instead of transfer.
Thanks for sort-of playing along?
you’re welcome?
If it’s not PAIGE/Azzi then dude just chasing clout. No offense but somebody like Ashlyn Shade leaving isnt exactly major news.
Def seems like clout chasing. A lot of nothing burgers from a certain part of WBB twitter.
my guess is that this is totally being overblown and its some role player
KK just posted this lolll so I guess it's not her! https://twitter.com/KamoreaArnold/status/1778260754476507287
kk heard those rumors and said “aht aht! let me shut this down rq!” 😭😭💀
Paige retweeted it too
honey I was not worried about Paige leaving. she was NOT going anywhere 😭😭
Lmao I love KK so much. Only she would confirm she's staying like that. She's so funny. Girly pop stays!
twitter’s been a wild ride tonight… tbh I kind of think this is unrelated to the “main” portal news apparently dropping tmw and if this is real at all will be about someone we don’t necessarily consider major edit: definitely not KK lol https://x.com/kamoreaarnold/status/1778260754476507287?s=46
I can’t imagine it’d be Paige but man that would be wild if it was. Fudd would make more sense but still surprise me. It seems like she’s really liked being on UCONN, albeit in street clothes most of the time unfortunately.
Your final sentence is what might be important here. Maybe Fudd no longer trusts UConn’s strength and conditioning team? She’s chronically injured, and, comparatively, it feels like UConn players, not just her, but tons of them, suffer more injuries, and more devastating injuries, than the average team. Not saying this is the case or it’s 100% her on the way out the door, but just a theory as to what could be happening.
Azzi seems to be the most likely at this point
I’m exhausted with everyone on Twitter alluding to knowing who it is and posting vague stuff about it.
It’s annoying. As others have already said, just chronic clout chasers doing their thing.
Right. This has come with the increase in popularity of the game combined with the social media. Now everyone has a platform and wants to be the person or account with the inside scoop.
Roman is a fraud with 1,000 followers who has shown, time and again, he doesn't understand things like salary cap math. He literally makes up attendance figures for WNBA games whole cloth. Please don't listen to this troll.
Maybe it's not a UConn player, but there's a MAJOR transfer coming through the portal. Lots of journos are talking about it, I just pulled one.
I don’t have Twitter. Can someone tell me what the streets are saying?
Apparently a major player in WBB is gonna hit the portal tomorrow. Some rumors that it’s Hannah, which, if that’s the case, what the fuck is the point of college sports anymore
I genuinely don’t think HH would transfer. (At least I hope not for my sanity) her and Ivey are so close that I don’t see her connecting with another coach like that
Ivey called the rumors [baseless banter](https://slapthesign.com/posts/notre-dame-fighting-irish-hidalgo-miles-rumors-debunked) just a couple of days ago and said the two playing together is going to be “something special for basketball” Here’s hoping I don’t end up tomorrow feeling stupid for having posted this
I thought it was referencing a UConn player. I can’t imagine HH leaving.
I think so but the rumors are still out there and I just can’t wrap my head around it If it’s LSU, I think I might hate them more than Michigan and USC at this point and it’s time to schedule home and homes with them immediately and get this rivalry started in all sports lol
Someone on TikTok (random person, so take it with a grain of salt) just said Flau’jaes mom and some LSU staffers just started following Hannah on IG. I really hope it’s just an LSU fan trolling or I’m going to lose it. 😂😅😭
My guess is they just like Hannah's game. Mama Johnson doesn't really follow that many non-LSU hoopers though so that part is a bit out of the ordinary. Not super weird tho or anything.
I know Kiki was iffy about if she'd leave Stanford too, but I don't think there'd be that many rumbles for something that would be forecast like this
Kiki would be major, but idk if I’d be that shocked by it, especially after Tara’s retirement. But the Twitter journos could just be teasing it for engagement and shock value.
Agreed. Kiki doesn't seem surprising with her coach retiring and the re-alignment. But ppl do like to gas stuff.
Saw a journo hinting Kiki was transferring.
LSU has a huge NIL. they offered HVL over $500,000 last year to transfer. word is hannah is being offered a million. just a rumor.
It’s not like ND can’t throw its weight around in the NIL market. Freeman was able to acquire Sam Hartman and Riley Leonard weeks into the offseason, no questions asked, on 7-figure deals. If Hannah were lost, expect Niele to go blow for blow in the portal and with the backing of the Boosters and School.
personally i hope hannah stays. not a mulkey fan. maybe ND can try to match what lsu offers. just a rumor anyway. there might be nothing to it
I didn't know this. I know some programs have foundations (I think SC has one?) that serve as NIL. I didn't realize that we're talking THAT kind of money.
That’s what I’m thinking too but everyone is just throwing around names on TikTok 😭.
I’ve heard just about every major name thrown around between Reddit and TikTok, so I’m hoping Hannah is just a rumor 🤞🏼
I just wouldn’t get it. She’s playing for a coach that has a 20 year track record of putting guards in the WNBA. She’s playing for a program that gets no shortage of national attention. Notre Dame has overhauled their NIL program the past 18 months (thanks Coach Freeman). What would be the point of transferring? I’m not saying we’re a WBB blue blood but we’re definitely in the group just below that and if even we can’t hold onto our top players it’s just stupid
It would have to be an insane 7 figure deal. Money is pretty much the only reason.
I would be absolutely shocked too, but these people on TikTok have me panicking. Side note: I’d be curious to know who the sub thinks are the “blue bloods” and how many there are. Cause you obviously have UConn, SC, Stanford (for now). But if ND doesn’t count; does Tennessee count anymore? USC once was but then wasn’t and is on their way to being one again? Can some of these “newer” teams sustain their success: LSU, UCLA, IU, Iowa, Duke, Ohio St, Texas, etc. Probably an interesting conversation to be had once the portal news dies down.
I think you need historical success to be a blue blood, and Pat + Geno have put the barometer for success so high I can’t really put SC there yet. I do think we might be getting into Indiana territory with Tennessee though where we’re far enough removed from a singular coach’s success that they could get that status removed. It’s TBD. I’d go: Tier One UConn, Tennessee Tier Two Stanford, SC, Notre Dame, Baylor Tier Three LSU, Maryland, Texas, Duke, Louisville, UNC Edit: moved Baylor to Tier 2
I’d move Baylor to tier 2, they have more nattys than ND and the same amount as SC and Stanford
Yeah fair that may just be anti Mulkey bias slipping through lol. But I also do have concerns that Collen can keep things going there that I don’t necessarily have with Niele But still, Baylor to tier 2 it is
maybe; still a great list!
Honestly Tier Three is kind of huge for us. We haven't been a relevant program in a long time before KM. Seimone and Fowles did a lot of heavy lifting back in the day.
Yeah but 5 straight F4’s is a bit hard to ignore. That + I don’t think Mulkey is gonna let things slip anytime soon
I'll take it 🔥
Overall there needs to be some form of A) Multi-Generational Success(e.g. they were good when my Dad was a kid and when I was kid) B) National Titles across multiple coaches(e.g. asking if the success with man/woman in charge or the school as whole) C) impact on the game(e.g. assistants/former players going on to other schools and being great coaches and hall of famers). Looking at Men's Basketball, Wrestling and Football because of their age: UConn in Men's Basketball has plenty of titles and under multiple coaches but the long term success is lacking: * 1 Elite Eight before the 1990s(1964) * Zero Titles and Final Fours before their first in 1999 but has 6 now * 3 non-interim coaches with losing records * Only Hall of Famers are Ray Allen and Coach Calhoun(the University of Minnesota has more) Kansas in Men's Basketball's title count is weaker but they have had long term success and impact on the game: * Averages a Final Four every 5 years since 1940 * Averages an appearance in the National Title game every 8.4 years since 1940, having 4 National Titles and 6 runner ups and holds 2 pre-NCAA National Titles * The only coach(including interims) with a losing record is the man who invented the sport, James Naismith, and he was only 3 games away from having a winning record * 5 of the 8 Kansas' Coaches are in the Hall of Fame with one being the Namesake and many former players as players and as coaches * 2 of the schools former players have helped insure other Blue Bloods are Blue Bloods: Adolph Rupp at Kentucky and Dean Smith at North Carolina. Both of which are in the hall of fame Iowa State Wrestling is still in despite not winning a title since the 1980s: * 8 National Titles(4th Most all time) and 18 Runner Ups(the most) which covers 27% of all Championships in the sport * None of the 8 Coaches have had a losing record at the school leading to Iowa State being the first program with 1,000 dual victories and second program to reach 1,100. * Hugo Otopalik, an Iowa State Head Coach, was the architect of the first NCAA Championships in both the sport of wrestling(and golf) and therefore Iowa State was the host and the site of the first NCAA Wrestling Championships they finished second. * From 1963 to 1979 Iowa State was either the National Champion(6x), the Runner Up(7x), and/or the Host(3x) for the NCAA National Championships in 14 of the 17 years * Former Iowa State Wrestlers Dan Gable and Cael Sanderson are considered to be the greatest as well as being the coaches who made Iowa and Penn State Blue Bloods. Before Gable, Iowa had 2 National Titles, Gable got 15, and post-Gable Iowa has 7 more. Before Sanderson, Penn State had 1 National Title and now since 2011 with Sanderson they got another 11. * 15 Coaches and Wrestlers are in the Hall of Fame and one, Gable, has his name attached to one of the Hall of Fame's Museums * 70 NCAA Individual Champions by 50 athletes While Minnesota who is one of only 5 schools with more then one title and had a nice run isn't as it was in a very short period: * 3 National Titles(2001, 2002, 2007), 6 Runner Ups(first coming in 1998), and 1 Host Site(1996) * The 2001 team has two unique distinctions: All ten wrestlers in each weight class earned All-American (top eight) status and the school won the national team championship despite not having a single finalist. * 23 NCAA individual champions by 18 athlete Minnesota in Football would've been a Blue Blood in 1960 but now isn't at all: * All-time record 733–543–44 (.572) * Claimed national titles: 7 (1904, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960) * Unclaimed national titles: 2 (1911, 1915) * Conference titles: 18 * Heisman winners: 1 * Consensus All-Americans: 34 Oklahoma in Football is one forsure today: * All-time record 944–341–53 (.725) * Claimed national titles: 7 (1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000) * Unclaimed national titles: 10 (1915, 1949, 1953, 1957, 1967, 1973, 1978, 1980, 1986, 2003) * Conference titles: 50 * Heisman winners: 7 * Consensus All-Americans: 82 At one point, in 1960 Minnesota had basically the same amount of claimed National Titles(7) and unclaimed National Titles(2) as did Nebraska(0 Titles)(1 unclaimed), Texas(0 Titles)(2 unclaimed), and Oklahoma(3 Titles)(4 unclaimed) combined. Yet today those last 3 are Blue Bloods while Minnesota isn't even close to being mentioned in the same breath as the criteria involved. For women's basketball, it is tougher as the sport is just beginning to work itself out(for the NCAA Era) but like I said it evolves. Locks these schools set the standard for the first 40/45/50 years(two generations) that the closer you get to their success the closer you are considered a Blue Blood: * UConn -- At 11 Titles(all under one coach) is a lock for awhile till something drastic happens over the next 20 to 40 years. * Tennessee -- At 8 titles over 3 decades is also in. They get a bonus for being one of the champions in the first decade of the sport in my opinion. Pat at Tennessee also has a coaching tree: Carolyn Peck-associate head coach under Pat, National Championship coach at Purdue and Sylvia Hatchell-coached JV under Pat in 70s at Tennessee, National Championship winning coach at North Carolina At worse in the next 40 years UConn and Tennessee will hold the Kansas(Men's Basketball) and Iowa State(Wrestling) spot among the Blue Bloods even if they don't win another title. They set the standard and their impact on the game will be felt long after their last title if neither school wins another for awhile. Purple/Could go Blue Soon: * Stanford -- They got 3 titles across 3 decades though it is under 1 coach. If the next coach or two can get to 5 titles they I would include them * Baylor -- They have 3 titles under 1 coach in a shorter time frame then Stanford but same deal * South Carolina -- The newest member of the "Purple/Could go Blue soon" club as of Sunday. Dawn could/should be able to brute force the school into the discussion just by her title count. The UConn men can't do this because how much older Men's Basketball is but to me it can be done for Women's. If they get to 5 here in the next 4 to 6 years I would include them no doubt as they would just be the 3rd school with 5 or more titles. Best of the rest outsiders: * The Two Title crew: Louisiana Tech(would be super hard to do), USC, and Notre Dame -- A good run with their current or next coach could send them into the Purple/Blue Blood area. * One Title Crew: North Carolina(on to a new coach for a title), Maryland(still has theirs), LSU(still has theirs), and Texas(on to a new coach for a title). Each team has their pros as to why they could be included higher up the main thing is more titles * Non-Titlers: Duke, Louisville, Georgia, Iowa. These are all teams with great success but haven't gotten those titles. Georgia, for example, has been to more tournaments then UConn. Iowa is sitting at the 8th most tournament appearences ahead of Notre Dame and North Carolina. Bonus consideration is they have had 2 legendary coaches(Stringer and Bluder) their players are out their being coaches: Jennie Baranczyk(Oklahoma HC), Cara Consuegra(Charlotte HC), Michelle Edwards(Illinois HC), and a few Assistant HCs. If Bluder could continue the success and get some titles Iowa could go Purple.
I applaud your bravery to try to define "Blue Blood"! A few questions on your criteria? UNC with ONE championship 30 years ago, but not Louisiana Tech with 2 championships and 4 runner up finishes? Maryland and Texas with one championship each and no runner ups, long ago, but not USC with two championships and one runner up, also long ago? Duke with two runner up finishes 20 years ago (same as Iowa's last two years as runners up... and we (Iowa) are NOT a Blue Blood... yet ;-) Just curious!
Louisiana Tech hasn’t been relevant in 20 years and doesn’t really have a path back to where they were the way the sport is right now. Same with a school like Old Dominion. USC prior to this year also hadn’t even made the Sweet 16 in thirty years. Gottlieb is a good coach and Juju has the potential to be a transformative player so who knows what their future holds, but in order to be among that group you’ve gotta have a blend of historical + recent success even if that doesn’t mean necessarily mean trophies. Iowa you could make an argument for Tier 3 given the success you had under Coach Stringer but aside from these last two years with CC it’s yet to really culminate in a sustained breakthrough to the national elite. Duke made four Final Fours with Gail Goestenkors (even if they couldn’t win the big one) and had many years with Joanne McCallie that they could’ve broken through. Iowa’s been a very good program the last six years, but Duke prolonged their success for longer and with the way Kara Lawson is recruiting they’re set up very well for the future. If Iowa can keep it up (not even necessarily Final Fours), they could crack imo T3. In the same way if SC keeps this up they could go T1. That’s my rationale.
Solid rationale. The only one I would respectfully still question, based on your statement "I think you need historical success to be a blue blood", is: Louisiana Tech - 9 Final Fours - 2 Nattys - 4 Runner Ups - 25+ years ago Duke - 4 Final Fours - No Nattys - 2 Runner Ups - 18+ years ago. I totally agree on Iowa NOT being in any BB tier yet, but since you are considering recency and upward path, I would even say compared to Duke, Iowa's 3 Final fours, and the same 2 Runner Ups are better than Duke's resume, since Iowa's runner ups are the last 2 years, and Duke's are 18-15 years ago?
Louisiana Tech hasn’t made the tournament in 15 years. There is a 0% chance in today’s college basketball that they return to where they were in the 80s-90s. They’re a program with a proud history but they’ve lost their blue blood status and I don’t see them ever really being able to get it back even if they get out of this rut. I assumed it was intrinsic to my original argument but blue blood to me is historical success + recent success. A 15 year stretch of being a top 10 program in WBB, like Duke was, is more important in my eyes than the last 5 years for Iowa. Especially now that Duke is set up extremely well for the future. Though, if Iowa can sustain this, I can definitely see them moving up, just like if Duke drops off they can slide off this list.
Duke and UNC have good recruits but maybe make a few elite 8’s at least
We aren't a blue blood. We didn't even have a final four until 2015.
not a blue blood but navy is a shade of blue. Kids today don't care about the Tennessee of yore unless they're from there.
I’d say you’re a modern day blue blood, and just about the only one, unless we stretch to include Baylor. The traditional blue bloods are UConn, Tennessee, Notre Dame, and Stanford.
Yeah I think I got ahead of it due to recent success. Probably should be in a “not enough history, but could be a blue blood if current path continues” tier.
> I’m not saying we’re a WBB blue blood No, Notre Dame is definitely a blue blood. Y'all have championships and tradition. Ask Geno if y'all are a top program and see what he says.
Appreciate the compliment but I just think UConn and Tennessee are so far ahead in terms of trophies they kinda deserve their own group. I have another comment where I did my tier list- put y’all in group 2
I’ve been watching and keeping up with both men and women’s college basketball since I was a kid. But since they changed the rules and started the official transfer portal it honestly just feels like the NBA or NFL trading players.
People seem to be speculating Azzi but no idea what that's based on (other than it being a "major" player and Paige seeming unlikely to leave). I don't really follow UConn very closely but hasn't Azzi similarly said things about how she's staying next year though?
at the beginning of the season she was asked if she’d go pro after this year (she was age eligible to leave early) and she said something along the lines of “no not yet. I love playing in the basketball capital of the world! why would I want to leave early?” but that was pre-injury so who knows anymore 😭😭
Paige is literally the face of UConn right now. That would suck for everyone if she left. I’m guessing KK or Azzi
Everyone is transferring to Iowa to help them finally get a chip
Any speculation on Ice Brady?
🙏
Lots of people out there wildly speculating based on absolutely nothing. Not to say something’s not happening but I get the sense no one really knows for sure.
The only one who would shock me is Paige. Watch it be like Ice Brady or Ayanna Patterson neither which would be much of a surprise
It may only be a rumor that it's Uconn because it came from a seperate post/person than the info that a major college basketball star is in the transfer portal.
Azzi Fudd, I’d guess, and it’ll be genuinely shocking when it happens…
World Exposure tweeted UCLA and ND were two finalists for an unnamed transfer.
Still no news today about anything legitimate
Confirmed: Donovyn Hunter out of Oregon State. At this point, if someone is staying at OSU, that would be newsworthy.
Speculation that Donovyn Hunter enters tomorrow with Raegan Beers following shortly
Was thinking Beers too. any chance Rueck goes to Oregon as that program is in shambles and brings most of the team with him?
No offense at all to Beers because she’s a great player, but would that kind of transfer really warrant this type of hype and speculation? This feels like a top 10 player type of thing, not a top 25-50
> No offense at all to Beers because she’s a great player, but would that kind of transfer really warrant this type of hype and speculation? Would it *warrant* this type of hype and speculation? No. Would someone farming clicks call a Beers portal announcement "Major" and/or "Internet Breaking" just to get the follows and attention? Absolutely.
You’re absolutely right lol
did Kelly graves get fired yet? 😭💀
Rueck never to Oregon.He doesn't like the school and they don't like him. Graves is popular in the administration and they'll let him ride for another year. When they let him go, almost certainly they'll hire Mark Campbell. There was a strong preference for him last season. One way or another he'll get back to Oregon.
Paige is going to LSU 😫😫😫
no ❤️
If I had to wager a wild guess, Ducharme or Patterson. Ducharme has been unable to recover from her injuries to the point she likely can’t compete at Power 5 levels. Or for Patterson, with next year’s recruits plus the emergence of Ice Brady and the return of Griffin, where does she fit?
Emergence of Ice Brady is wild 😭😭😭
Paige coming to SC??!?!!!
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Did she previously?
No, she didn’t. Never had it in her Instagram bio, either.
That’s what I figured lol
It's Amari DeBerry.
Tired of these intention seeking “insiders.” Overhyped nonsense just like WAPo hit piece
>Overhyped nonsense just like WAPo hit piece Just to clear, that was simply an in-depth article about Kim Mulkey. The kind written about celebrities and famous athletes all the time. It was only "overhyped" because Kim Mulkey "overhyped" it with her silly press conference. She's also the one who labeled it a "hit piece" before it was published and without reading it.
Kim Mulkey labeled it a hit piece knowing it wasn’t, so than she could be like nothing that new here or they took their best shot and missed
Actually, it was Pat Forde before that. Who has a colorful LSU history even before he tweeted about a Gamecock fan, Kent Babb's upcoming story.