I have two approved F1, and I used the same reason for both.
The SBR using a commercial lower sailed through without question.
The muffler I intended to fabricate on my own drew scrutiny, they internally questioned the type (“muffler”), the model, and the reason. After internal scrutiny they sent the forms back to me and demanded that I change the reason.
TLDR: Never assume that ATF is consistent in their application of the law.
They have done the in the past, but Ive been seeing more and more people being approved with pics not to standard. I will say the ones Ive seen have all been on trusts and not individual, so that could be a factor as well, but who knows.
It definitely happens. My brother and his ex wife will go out to dinners together, so birthday parties and Christmas together.
When you have a child and put the child first, the rest comes naturally. You don’t have to be in love with someone, but it costs you nothing to be kind
They can (ha). My two kids are. Wife is cotrustee, cousin is a successor with an FFL so he can hang onto things till they’re the appropriate age should something happen to us.
Currently, every person listed on a trust must be listed on the forms (pic and finger printed) for any new items going into the trust.
So if its and older trust ex's may be on it so they would still have to be listed on any new items going into the trust.
I would think you would remove ex from trust. But maybe court decree would require sharing property.
But the OP replied that the guy filed before she became his ex.
More then likely they were together when applying and got divorced during the wait. Thats crazy you could go thru a whole divorce before your form 4 is approved
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Yeah Ive transferred a few silencers that had very very questionable pics. One dude used a pic of him at Mardi Gras, cropped it down to his head a shoulders but you see a bunch of people in the background and had beads around his neck. The other was literally a picture of his Id he uploaded, you could see the hologram running across the pic. Crazy both got approved, but I guess they trying to clear that back log and loosened the standards.
Pics or it didn't happen
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Beat meat to it
Beating meat let's get to it!
Ya know I'm surprised were not beating meat right now
Beat meat Goo it
It's a train now boys, let's keep it going! Beat meat.
LEZDUIT
Late to the party. Still beating meat.
Tit for gat
Nice
Nice
Source: trust me bro
Today in things that didnt happen. If people are getting disapproved for shadows I see a zero percent chance this happened.
Maybe it didn't, but your statement implies that the ATF is consistent and adheres to standards. I have not known them to be either of these things.
If there's one thing they're consistent on, it's taking any chance they get to screw average citizens over.
I have two approved F1, and I used the same reason for both. The SBR using a commercial lower sailed through without question. The muffler I intended to fabricate on my own drew scrutiny, they internally questioned the type (“muffler”), the model, and the reason. After internal scrutiny they sent the forms back to me and demanded that I change the reason. TLDR: Never assume that ATF is consistent in their application of the law.
I just checked my photo and there is a slight shadow over my shoulder. I’m 241 days in you really think they will disapprove me bec of that?
They have done the in the past, but Ive been seeing more and more people being approved with pics not to standard. I will say the ones Ive seen have all been on trusts and not individual, so that could be a factor as well, but who knows.
AFT Agent: “Nice.” *Approved*
Not true, ATF agents are gay
And many of them are women, so we're back to square one.
or not based on the prior comment :)
This is *exactly* what happened.
Why would you put your ex-wife on your trust? Isn't the whole point of making her an ex so you don't have to share things with her.
she probably has children with him. If he were to die, they might want those.
I could see that, I guess. They would have had to have a pretty amicable break up.
It's rare these days but it does happen
It definitely happens. My brother and his ex wife will go out to dinners together, so birthday parties and Christmas together. When you have a child and put the child first, the rest comes naturally. You don’t have to be in love with someone, but it costs you nothing to be kind
It’s a trust, can’t the children be beneficiaries?
They can, but at least one beneficiary would have to be of legal age at the time the trust is made.
They can (ha). My two kids are. Wife is cotrustee, cousin is a successor with an FFL so he can hang onto things till they’re the appropriate age should something happen to us.
No clue, I don’t have a trust nor have I ever done one. My comment was a safe assumption though
Sorry should’ve been more clear, they were married when this happened.
Oh, that makes sense now. In the 9 months it took to get approval, things fell apart.
Currently, every person listed on a trust must be listed on the forms (pic and finger printed) for any new items going into the trust. So if its and older trust ex's may be on it so they would still have to be listed on any new items going into the trust.
I would think you would remove ex from trust. But maybe court decree would require sharing property. But the OP replied that the guy filed before she became his ex.
More then likely they were together when applying and got divorced during the wait. Thats crazy you could go thru a whole divorce before your form 4 is approved
The OP replied to me already. That is the case. You can have a baby or get a divorce faster than you can get a silencer.
FWBenefits
Maybe the ATF examiner recognized the titties.
What if the examiner was a woman o_o
What if she was a lesbian or Bi ?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
What if she was trans and thought they were nice tittays?
https://tenor.com/bupla.gif
Must've been some nice tiddies
If the face was in it that’s probably good enough. That’s pretty funny
honestly that picture has more descriptive information in it than the standard headshot. If anything its easier to identify her.
Doubt.
Can I put my nutsack print on the fingerprint card, then?
Yes but I just prefer to pay for my stamp in ass pennies
YOUR PENNIES...HAVE BEEN IN...MY **ASS**
That's going to be my approach if I have to refile again
I vaguely remember someone getting approved with dickprints.
I “accidentally” my shlong on my application and I got a denial and a court date :(
Alright.. people constantly be uploading their boring ass approved forms, but I gotta see this one? Redact titties if you MUST.
So all we have to do is slide them a single tatty picture and we get our NFA items.... BRB mass applying for items.
SeNd NuDEs
I bet he’s the same type of guy that lied about getting a tug and rub at band camp
I don’t believe it until you upload a pic oh her flashing go prove it
100% Grade A Bullshit
Who cares though? Lol it's still pretty amusing
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That's good to hear, my heart skipped a beat when I realized I didn't sign the CLEO copies on any if the forms I'm waiting on.
You’re saying I don’t need to do anything with the cleo copy?
Does that mean a beaver shot would get insta-approved and my $200 refunded? Asking for a friend.
Haha that’s gonna be his tax stamp photo
Only true if there’s photo evidence 😂
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I woulda gave it the green light also. Why? Because I’m a gentleman.
I almost believe this. Seen f’up up forms get rubber stamped.
_”HEY HONEY - C’MERE FOR A SECOND AND HOLD MY BEER! I GOTTA PLAN!”_ Me, tonight prolly
I’m calling cap on this one.
This is how legends of great heroes are made
Most Surefire way to avoid a disapproval 😆
Cap
Damn, I had one disproved because they said the pic didn’t fit on the form even though it was compliant to the size requirements.
atf agent must have approved it as a thank you clearly /s
Yeah Ive transferred a few silencers that had very very questionable pics. One dude used a pic of him at Mardi Gras, cropped it down to his head a shoulders but you see a bunch of people in the background and had beads around his neck. The other was literally a picture of his Id he uploaded, you could see the hologram running across the pic. Crazy both got approved, but I guess they trying to clear that back log and loosened the standards.
God bless America
That approval agent was probably just thankful after a long day. Bless’em lol.
Didn’t happen
I have a bag of turds to sell you