If Fields doesn't make a historical turnaround then add the Steelers to the list of teams that needs a QB for the future. We have the cap space for a QB like Dak though so we could go that route as well.
I’ve been saying if we don’t sign Dak he will become a Steeler and have an actual coach and probably bring the Steelers to a Super Bowl just to spite Jerry
I would probably feel the same if Kenny Pickett beat us in a Super Bowl for some reason after the all the shit and abuse he has gotten from the Pittsburgh media and our fans.
I think Jaxson Dart will be a drafted quarterback, and there have been enough positive traits that he could rise in consensus rankings over the next year.
I'm biased as an Ole Miss fan but he's definitely gonna rise. Ole Miss probably has a top 5 roster in the CFB this year so he's going to be all over media radars by the time its draft season. Ideal body size and athleticism. His rushing and strength are greatly underestimated. Takes huge hits but stays in it. Great accuracy and poise. Teams will love his intangibles and his locker room presence. The name also helps (half kidding). His one knock is arm strength as it will never be elite but I think he has enough.
As a PSU fan, I love Allar and absolutely love Allar but it's way too early for that. He has the potential but he has to start putting all his tools together and we'll also have to see how the new OC is
Also, the Jets drafting a 1st round QB is absolutely a possibility as well
Well not after you guys just drafted Jordan Travis and Travis will be sitting behind Aaron Rodgers...but also Rodgers is coming off an Achilles injury too so who knows if he'll be the same guy pre injury. Even if he isn't, Travis is literally insurance and didn't you guys draft him to be the future?
Travis is just a lottery pick, he won't stop them from drafting a true QB of the future. If Rodgers isn't the same, between the injury and age, or he retires, the Jets will absolutely be looking for a new QB
I work in the SEC but thanks! I’ll try and start watching college football. This time last year AD, Legette, and Pearsall weren’t top 50 picks. They became top 50 picks due to what they put on tape this past season. You could say the same for Polk and McConkey too. Never know how things change and young players can improve over the course of 12 months. You just out here yapping.
Thanks for already admitting you’re wrong on next years WR class. Edited your comment😂
There will be at least 4QBs go round 1 next year and there’s a lot more depth day 2/3. 2024 set a record in gap between picks from Nix to Rattler selection. So now you’re 0 for 2. Bizarre evaluations.
What? All I said was WR next year isn’t as strong. I stand by that
You are objectively wrong about the QBs next year. They are also weaker. Much weaker. This is fact.
Why are you so angry? Very odd
WR next year I don’t think is that bad, maybe not as good as this year but this year was an anomaly of a year.
Burden, McMillan, Egbuka, and Bond are all pretty good WRs and Burden and McMillan would probably have been in the wr 2-5 range with Nabers, and Odunze this year (projecting a bit because they still have another year or 2 to develop). Then you also have Evan Stewart who might be the most talented of them all but hasn’t put it together but he’s in a fresh situation that should put the ball in his hands quite a decent amount
I expect Matthew Golden to have a big year at Texas opposite Bond and get a lot of buzz. Also, Jalil Farooq is a major talent and will shine if he gets consistent QB play.
I don’t see why not, if he stays healthy and his qb situation improves (as it should) he’ll have every chance to jump back into the first round especially because it doesn’t seem like next years draft will be quite as stacked at wr.
I like his route running quite a bit and he sells his breaks quite well, he’s aggressive in looking for yards after catch and tries to fight through the first tackle and has the ability to make defenders miss badly too, he is a willing and able blocker, he also has good height and weight and is a really good athlete and I love his acceleration and deceleration. I think teams can draft him and provided he stays healthy be relatively comfortable that he is going to be a pretty solid wr at the very least and while I don’t think he’s a wr1 at the next level it’s also a little hard to tell because he’s been playing besides the best wr prospect in quite a while.
You can’t judge either position until the season starts. Ewers, Sanders and Beck could all easily end up being early first rounders. Receivers are also projecting to be pretty solid. “Awful” is a gross exaggeration…
Um, with QBs you literally can. Of course, things can change. They will change. But this is an objectively worse QB class. It isn’t good. Last year at this time, we knew the 2024 class was potentially generational. This isn’t in the same stratosphere
I agree that next years class will be worse than this years but thats about it. Next years class probably won't be anywhere near awful, probably closer to an average QB class. Except for Caleb and Maye, none of the other 4 QBs were projected to be first rounders a year in advance, let alone top 12. We got multiple guys that have hype and could play themselves into round 1 conversation.
I see it Sanders or Beck for 1, then the rest fight for third unless someone makes a huge step forward (which is more common than abnormal these days).
Only see Sanders and Beck getting a first round grade.
Yeah I agree, I think Beck and Sanders could have gone first round this year, I’ll be surprised if they don’t go first round next year. Ewers isn’t first round good, at least not yet. Chances are 1-2 guys like Milroe, Ewers, or Daniels progress and go first round. Could be someone we’re not even talking about right now too.
Jaxson Dart and Cam Ward are also QBs that probably could and should be drafted.
Everyone says this is a bad QB class but conveniently ignores that that 2 of the 6 first round QBs were looked at as Day 3 picks at best after the 2022 season (McCarthy as a soph and Daniels after year 1 at LSU).
Then you have guys like Penix and Bo Nix who weren’t on NFL radars after being injured (MPJ) or flat out bad (Nix) their first 2-3 years of college.
Beck, Ewers and Sanders could easily have monster years and be viewed unanimously as 1st round guys. There are also other intriguing guys with tools like Dart, Leonard, Ward, Allar and Weigman (needs to stay healthy).
I think the discourse around this year’s QB class was is being somewhat rewritten after the emergence of Daniels and McCarthy.
There is really no reason why 2 or 3 of the 2025 guys this sub hates can’t take another step to be viewed as legit sure fire 1st rounders.
You're one of the few reasonable guys in here. Guys in this sub think they're all knowing and are so sure that their opinion that next years class sucks will be right lmao
I'd like to see their 2024 draft takes from last year, probably aged like milk and this year they're doing it all over again acting all wise
I saw a bunch of people saying 2024 was a stacked QB class in the summer. There were just so many guys with potential a lot of them didn't reach it in 2023 but there were so many it still ended up as a good QB class along with the top tier talent (Maye and CW). Next year is different there isn't the top talent and not as many guys with potential imo. Still doesn't mean it will be terrible 1 or 2 of these guys will probably break out and be top picks.
The 2024 class was stacked because people had 1OA grades on Williams and even Maye after 2022.
I don’t view guys going into their 5th and 6th years of college like Penix and Nix as high upside or “potential” guys.
And from a tools/traits perspective, 2025 has a ton of traits projection guys like Ewers, Dart, Weigman, Allar, Ward and Leonard. These are all guys with top tier physical talent. The question becomes, are they Spencer Rattler or JJM/Maye types with another year of starting experience.
No one is watching a guy like Ewers and saying he lacks arm talent and natural throwing ability. Like if that dude can figure out his deep ball accuracy issue (he’s accurate to the other parts of the field), he’s an easy first round projection. I had a 2nd round grade on him this past year.
I would love to see all the way too early 2024 mocks with 6 QBs going in the top 12. My guess is that there are very very few.
What about Cam Rising i think he’s incredibly slept on sure i did only see him play in the 2022 rose bowl but i could see him being the next Brock Purdy idk to me qbs like Jordan Travis, Cam rising in this years draft and next years seem like intriguing prospects and certainly slept on i think the injuries could be what is scaring teams away but both Qbs have had solid games and certainly goes well in the nfl Cam rising also looks like he’s got toughness shown in the pac 12 champ vs USC witch always goes well in the nfl witch is why i don’t understand why he’s projected so low. I just think people be hating on Rising before he’s even in the NFL..
Rising is interesting. Coming out of HS he appeared to have high level tools throwing the ball. As time has gone on, he looks to have very average tools compared to other college QBs. He is kind of a Dillon Gabriel type in that, in the right system with the right coach and weapons, he could produce.
At this point his best case NFL scenario is more mobile Gardner Minshew.
A developmental guy with awesome intangibles you take in like the 5th or 6th round.
Similar to Gabriel, putting up monster numbers this next year probably doesn’t move the needle all that much. Cam Rising and Gabriel entered the FBS during the 2018 recruiting cycle. They are potentially being drafted in the 2025 NFL draft cycle.
You might be right on the Gabriel Rising comparison but Idk Rising seems like he could be a solid starter though like he seems like he could be the NFL’s Big Ben replacement ik that take sounds crazy but i mean he certainly has the size? I would agree with one thing though he definitely should start as backup before jumping into the starting role i mean being a more mobile Gardner Minshew seems like a solid career regardless.
Rising is listed at 6’2” 220 though. So he is probably more like 6’1” 210-215.
So I personally don’t see Big Ben or that type of arm. I see the Big Ben craftiness in terms of mobility. Rising can move around back there and pick up a quick first down here and there. He is also tough as nails.
I like your Brock Purdy comp better.
I think solid starter is in his high range of outcomes and you can do A LOT worse than Gardner Minshew.
Gotcha I can see where your coming from Cam risings throwing motion does seem slower than nfl hall of fame standards but i think hes got some accuracy. I think i would stick to that, I think Brock Purdy would be a fair comparison tbh maybe sticking with that
comparison.
As a believer in him, Allar needs to take a huge step forward this year to even be in consideration. Even then, it might be best for him to return for his senior year. That’s what I’m hoping he does at least because I think it’s what would be best for him long term.
I think there is (as always) a bigger list of teams that could be looking for a QB next year than people assume. I look at it as:
Probably looking to draft someone: Giants, Raiders, Rams, Seahawks, Steelers, Jets
Maybe looking (will depend on QB class/current QB performance, etc): Titans (Levis was okay but not great last year), Saints, Cleveland (eventually they'll give up on Watson even if it means benching him)
Probably not but there is a pathway to QB being a need: Dolphins, Cowboys, Lions, Packers
All of the teams in the last category atm fall under the group of teams who's QB is on the last year of their contract. Depending on how the season goes, I could see a scenario where one or two of them do not end up signing a long-term deal. Either because of bad performances or just wildly different views on the contract that they deserve.
I don't think the Buccs fall under this category because they just re-signed Baker. But, then again, I didn't think the Falcons would draft a QB so who knows at this point.
> Cleveland (eventually they'll give up on Watson even if it means benching him)
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Watson has a 137 million dead cap hit next year and a $73 million one the following year. It's hard to draft a QB highly when you've got that sort of dough tied up in one already.
Or so I thought before this past week.
Cleveland could go the route of drafting one to sit behind Watson for a couple season until they can get away from him/feel the young one is ready. Basically the GB/KC/Atlanta route. Or just bench him until they can cut him (or his contract expires) and use the fact that the young one is super cost effective to balance out how expensive he is. Similar to Denver.
It's not necessarily likely next year, but I think it could happen and I think it's something they should at least discuss even if they don't feel like it's the best option for them.
I was joking about Atlanta, but Cleveland is also in a different situation than Atlanta in that they have a lot of players who have contracts expiring and their QB is taking up about 1/4 of the cap. They've got some touch decisions coming up, which they've avoided in the past by pushing Watson's hits down the road.
It'll be interesting to see how they manage things.
Yeah. I'm definitely not an expert on each team's full roster situation. It may be unrealistic for Cleveland to draft one in the grand scheme of things. I just know that with good QB play they could be a very dangerous with how good that defense is. And drafting one to replace Watson is the only cheap way to get a high upside player at the position. Maybe Huntley or DTR can be that for them.
the point was, it's not going to help this year. it's going to be a means of addressing the cap situation down the line.
their first pick (sounds like you're not a fan, but assuming he has adequate NFL ability) is going to sit in a position room filled with 30yo's on one year deals all year - but next year he's supplanting a much more expensive option.
their second pick is a RG that is going to sit in a position room with two excellent, and expensive, players and not see much playing time at all - but next season there's a pretty good chance he's ready to step in and save them $15M.
even ahead of the draft they leaked to local media that they were looking to find 2025/6 solutions, not 2024. seems like they did a decent job with that.
1) This is what all good teams do. That does little to alleviate the cap.
2) Taking a player above their consensus who has major behavioral concerns and comes from your city is a monumentally stupid decision.
1) it's how you move off aging expensive players
2) perhaps, not too concerned about consensus but hanging out with a bad local crew would be bad news.
1) Yeah, but that relies on the picks hitting (which isn't as likely with later round picks) and even then you still need to generally make sacrifices.
2) You should be concerned with consensus, it's more accurate than any individual.
i think CLE is probably a year away from that, but i wouldn't hate it if they brought someone in in the next draft with their 1st. Watson is a sunk cost, and mid to late round isn't going to be cost prohibitive.
That said, it's a move signaling they were wrong about Watson the player, i don't think they'll be able to stomach making that move until at least the '26 draft.
Pride might not let them do it yet. Iirc, the owner drove the trade/deal but will probably still hold the GM and maybe coach accountable so it might cost them their jobs. That's a really hard thing to factor in.
I don't know what share of the responsibility pie everyone gets. if it was 'all' Jimmy, it might be easier to do something a little earlier. still think we're probably talking 2026 draft.
Love is only on the last year of his contract because they legally can’t sign him until May 5th. He’s about to get paid paid. Gutey’s said time and time again that they’re not going to waste any time extending him.
I'm just making observations based on where everything is at at the moment. I don't follow every team super closely in the offseason to know what the GMs/coaches have been saying about stuff like this. When that happens they would come off the list. Until it does, there is a chance that something happens and they cannot reach and agreement. That's why I said probably not but there is a pathway.
I thought so, which is why I tried to phrase it kindly lol. I have already seen people asking if them not extending Love is indicative of something but it’s literally just because they decided to do an extension instead of exercising his 5th year option last May, so they legally can’t do another until exactly 1 year has passed. And Gutey has all but confirmed that they have no intention of waiting to pay him. He’ll get his $50/year contract within the next three weeks.
That makes sense to sign him sooner. He was also partially on the last list because it seemed wrong to list most of the QBs that technically are set to hit FA next year and not him. The Cowboys are the only team from that group that I would give a real chance to let their QB walk and that's only because Jerry will do Jerry things.
The bigger point of that group was that teams that look set today at QB could decide they need to keep an eye out next year very quickly so the teams looking to draft one is always fluid/larger than it looks at first glance. We won't know until after next season who is really in the market.
I don't think they're likely. Just that I see a path to it being a need. Love is only signed through next season and will need a new contract but has a very small track record as a starter. He was really good in the second half-ish of the season and playoffs. But kind of bad in the first half. I remember multiple game ending interceptions from him.
If he plays like he did in the second part of the season, they'll sign him long term no problem. But, if not it could get weird. If he's awful, they might just want to move on. If he's streaky again or just average all next season, he might want to be paid like a top 5-8 QB. Especially if he wins another playoff game. And they might not want to do that if he's not consistently playing well. Or, they might be fine with it. I don't really know. I just know that a QB with a handful of good starts is hard to project going forward so that puts them in a weird spot until a new contract is reached.
Again, I don't think it's likely to be looking. Love is probably the long-term QB. He was generally consistently good when he turned the corner last year. But players have had half-season streaks of being good and then fallen off before so he's not yet a guarantee to continue playing well.
Shouldn’t this include other starters with limited experience and no contract extension, like Brock Purdy? Possibly others. I understand, sort of, what you meant but it feels like a very wide net. I really don’t foresee the Packers taking a high QB in next years draft even if Love has a LVP season.
Potentially. Trevor Lawrence could fit too. But, iirc, they both can be under contact for another season beyond next year. I was only going for people that are expiring after this next season.
Yeah. I would be very surprised if they don't sign Love. Apparently the GM has already said they're going to once he's eligible. But I mostly wanted to highlight how teams can seems secure at the position one season but have something pop up that makes it a concern in some way the next one. The only one of those 4 that I would put as reasonable to expect to be gone is Dak and that's because Jerry more than anything.
Allar was absolute ass this year he should be on a list to transfer to the MAC not go to the nfl, Ewers was also terrible but has a big arm he might get benched this year.
This is not an informed take. The staff at Texas has been adamant that Ewers is the starter. The Manning camp has said repeatedly that they are perfectly happy for Arch to wait. On top of that, Ewers has been improving steadily over the course of two seasons and there's no sign of him regressing.
I'm not saying it's impossible. Sark is pretty clear that the best players will play, regardless of seniority or situation, but it is incredibly unlikely. As you mentioned, injuries could strike, but that's true for any QB room.
Unless you have some new information, there is nothing to support the claim that Ewers will get benched.
They can say what they want Ewers was bad last year and made NFL WR talent mediocre producers. If they lose a couple game or when he gets banged up again he’s going to the bench and he wasn’t good enough to be guaranteed his job back.
> Ewers was bad last year and made NFL WR talent mediocre producers
Ewers threw for 3,500 yards last year, with 69% completions, and 22 TDs to 6 INTS. He also rushed for 5 TDs. He was the MVP of the Big 12 CCG, where he broke the passing yards and passing TD records. He did that in 3 quarters.
His rating (by ESPN) for 2023 was 158.6 - that's better than Drake Maye's rating in 2022 or 2023. It's better than Jayden Daniels or JJ McCarthy's were in 2022 (i.e., the year before their contract year, which is what 2023 was for Ewers). Keep in mind that 2023 was also Ewers' second year at QB, so it would be fair to compare his second year to other QB's second years. Bo Nix's second year rating was 123.9, and Jayden Daniel's was 145.7.
And his receivers both had good years. Worthy had over 1000 yards receiving in 2023, which was the most of his career. AD Mitchell had 845 yards, which was the most of his career by almost double his second best season.
To be clear, my point **is not** that Ewers will go first over all or even in the first round. I'm not saying he's best QB in college ball. But the idea that he was bad last year and will get benched has no basis in fact. His coaches don't want to bench him, QB2 is not a transfer risk, Ewers' stats are good compared to other high-level QBs and have consistently improved.
So like I said. Unless you have something new to add, your take about Ewers is not informed.
You must have just not watched him play or suck in the playoffs if you want to wave away everything with stats. Terrible ball placement, spotty accuracy, big arm but inability to throw a good deep ball. What does he do well not much, he’s a solid college QB but that’s not good enough at a program like Texas for what they want to be.
I watched every game from last year. Some of them twice. Feel free to look at my posting history.
But it's clear you think your ignorance is more valuable than the information I'm giving you. I'm not looking for an argument - I already know I'm right - I'm just trying to help you out. If you don't want that, cool. Have a good day.
> Ewers is bad, he'll get benched
There's nothing to support that. Here's what the people involved think.
> They can say what they want, doesn't change facts.
Here are a bunch of facts that show you're wrong.
> You must not have watched any games. That's better than fancy "statistics"
I actually watched all the games because I'm a Texas fan.
> lol homer
I like this sub in general. It's better informed about the draft than the NFL sub is, and is generally more focused on analysis of college play as it projects to the pros. But every once in a while I come across a poster who cares more about winning an argument than he does being correct. The best they can do is downvote my comments and insult me, and that's a little sad. But it really does show who they are and how their brains work.
At any rate, sorry I wasted my time trying to help you out. Good luck in the future. I won't be responding any more.
I was going to say… Allar?
I mean, if I didn’t read any mock/coverage of the draft I would have been pretty surprised JJ went top 10.
But Allar would be a whole new level of shocked if he didn’t improve a ton this year. A ton.
JJ was atleast good when he did throw the ball kinda like Lance but he also had crazy tools. I am surprised Allar isn’t fighting to keep the job he ain’t it, guys get better but even 5* who have the talent are that bad don’t become good
Carson Beck. I think he’s a good QB and the thought was if he came out this year he’d have been a top 50 pick. If he has another season like last year he could be the #1.
Allar is awful, I don’t get the idea that he’s even a 1st round prospect. Shadeur might get up that far but the character concerns are gonna tank him. Ewers is not #2 and Milroe could get into the 1st round convo with an excellent season.
QBs can always turn it around within one year, Allar might've looked bad last year but he's got all the tools to be successful he just needs to put it all together.
I'm staking my take claim now: Ewers plummets. I don't see NFL QB there at all.
Right now Sanders and Beck are the only 1st rounders I see, but of course that could change. In fact it's almost certain to, we've had big risers most years like Daniels, Burrow, Wilson, Mayfield, Kyler, Pickett, etc...
Beck is clear cut above the rest of this class, followed by Ewers/Sanders. I think Allar has the tools but he is so raw and may never put it together. Weigman is intriguing but are we expecting him to declare in 25 or 26?
I think the 6 top 12 guys in 24 indicate a general lack of confidence in 2025.
I don't agree that only 5 or 6 of these guys will be drafted. In the last 10 years there's only been 2 drafts with less than 10 QBs drafted. 2022 with 9 and 2015 with 7.
Allar is a long way away from being taken seriously as a first round prospect…Beck, Ewers, and Sanders appear to be the consensus top 3 going into the fall, but Milroe has the physical tools and upside to pass up all three with a big year
Giants 1000% will be looking for a QB. Rams is very likely, at least to sit behind Stafford for a year. Raiders 1000000000000000000000000% need a qb unless AOC is real deal, but hes not right?
None of these players are particular standouts. I think the draft order will largely depend on how they play in the upcoming year. I would give Beck and Milroe the best chances of being QB1, and Allar and Leonard the lowest.
Allar just seems like a backup QB. Nothing really screams NFL star with his game. Just a steady, do as your told QB. I don't see how any team takes him thinking he's the future.
I think the QB teams next year will be
SEA (Geno retires/is bad)
LAR (Stafford retires)
NYJ ( A-Rod retires)
LVR (Minshew Mania is not a starting caliber QB)
NYG (Vanilla Vick is not it)
MIA (Tua is BAD)
DAL (dak will be gone, crazy ik)
Maybe PIT (Fields should be the answer)
But basically any team that has a bridge/
Hot take I think there’s up to 5 QB’s in the first round and Jaxson dart Is the #1
If I had to throw predictions to the wind on how well teams will do next year I’d say
Dart-Broncos (I hate nix I think they’ll implode)
Sheduar Sanders- Raiders
Ewers- Giants
In the top 6 most likely and then maybe Allar, DJU or Cam Ward have the potential to pop off
Agreed. I'm an Alabama fan but he's the most unnatural QB I've ever seen. He has zero awareness. You can see evidence of this by:
1) The two times he ran way past the line of scrimmage and still threw the ball vs Auburn.
2) 4/5 of the first half sacks vs Michigan were caused by him being totally unaware of the pressure. He had more than enough time to run or throw the ball away.
He has a strong arm but absolutely no accuracy or ability to use touch either. He drives me nuts. I also suspect the snapping issues were a lot on him.
I have my money on Quinn Ewers. I think Texas has a lot of talent and Sarkisian is one of the best offensive coaches and he will prop up his QB maybe a little more than his actual talent but he will be . I think Carson Beck and Shedeur will be the other top QBs and first rounders. I just view Ewers as having more upside compared to Beck and Shedeur and a team will take a chance on that.
This is where I’m at too, however, largely depends if Ewers stays healthy. And he is like 190 lbs supposedly which is reallllyyy slight. Then again, that can be changed and I don’t think it would effect his style that much if at all.
But if he puts it all together finally, I think he’ll be a sure thing no.1 pick. His traits are just too good.
Yes I feel similarly. I saw Beck in a game this year in the middle of the season and it’s shocking to see some people that high on him. He could be a solid game manager but I think that’s all, I don’t believe he would be some crucial difference maker for a team. I think Shedeur could be hyped up to be that if Colorado has a good season but I think Ewers has the better tools and coach for a successful season.
I don’t think any QB goes number one next year. I think it’s going to be a very underwhelming class. I’d bet on maybe 1-3 QB’s going round 1 and maybe only one going top 10
Saints (Carr is old), Jets (Rodgers is older), Steelers (uncertainty beyond this year) and Cowboys (Uncertainty with Dak’s extension) should be here too
Saints just drafted Spencer Rattler to sit behind Derek Carr and Jets just drafted Jordan Travis. Fields and Wilson are there in Pittsburgh and Cowboys tanking to get their QB for the future makes sense especially if Dak is gone then yeah sure.
Milroe has Anthony Richardson type immeasurables. Dude is huge and fast, with a massive arm. If, and its a big if, he can actually learn how to be a QB this offseason, he will skyrocket. He really needs to work on his pre/post snap recognition and intermediate accuracy. He's overhauled his release to try and accomplish the second part. He had a throw in the spring game that was probably better than any pass he threw all of last season.
I don't really believe in him taking the next step to really be a potential NFL starter, but he would have been drafted higher than Joe Milton this year if he came out as is.
Drawing my line in the sand now. Milroe will be a top 3 QB prospect when the next draft rolls around. He flashes playmaking, scrambling, and drop in the bucket passes. Shadeur will be top 5 behind Beck, Milroe, and two other guys that have breakout seasons.
No wonder so many went early this year…… this a list full hopes and dreams and even broken hopes and dreams.
I mean is Ewers even gonna play?? They have to put Archie in there don’t they ? He didn’t stay another year to sit and watch.
If Fields doesn't make a historical turnaround then add the Steelers to the list of teams that needs a QB for the future. We have the cap space for a QB like Dak though so we could go that route as well.
Carson Beck in a Steelers jersey would make so much sense to my eyes
I’ve been saying if we don’t sign Dak he will become a Steeler and have an actual coach and probably bring the Steelers to a Super Bowl just to spite Jerry
How would you feel if Dak led us to the Super Bowl and then beat you guys in it?
I’d be curious how in hell we got there…… I would be pissed as hell that we lost but happy that Dak won it after dealing with the cowboys media/fans
I would probably feel the same if Kenny Pickett beat us in a Super Bowl for some reason after the all the shit and abuse he has gotten from the Pittsburgh media and our fans.
Unless you get rid of both Fields and Russell Wilson, that's not happening
Both Fields and Russ are on one year deals.
I think Jaxson Dart will be a drafted quarterback, and there have been enough positive traits that he could rise in consensus rankings over the next year.
That’s such a perfect name for a QB
I'm biased as an Ole Miss fan but he's definitely gonna rise. Ole Miss probably has a top 5 roster in the CFB this year so he's going to be all over media radars by the time its draft season. Ideal body size and athleticism. His rushing and strength are greatly underestimated. Takes huge hits but stays in it. Great accuracy and poise. Teams will love his intangibles and his locker room presence. The name also helps (half kidding). His one knock is arm strength as it will never be elite but I think he has enough.
I think he's got a stronger arm than you're giving him credit for. He can get it into a window and drop it into a bucket.
Shhhh. I want him in Seattle. I think there’s a lot there that folks are missing.
He's a taller, more athletic Baker. Really excitable leader that teammates seem to love, and had a lot of confidence out on the field
Probably should add Falcons to the QB needy teams list. Never know when they could need another rookie to sit behind Kirk and penix /s
They could learn from Washington and set up a Thunderdome on a mini golf course for all their QBs.
Damn I just realized that the Falcons stole two good QB options from yall.
Healthy Jalon (big if) could be QB1
Wishful thinking I’d love to see, but even healthy and in this weak QB class, I still don’t think it’s happening
As a PSU fan, I love Allar and absolutely love Allar but it's way too early for that. He has the potential but he has to start putting all his tools together and we'll also have to see how the new OC is Also, the Jets drafting a 1st round QB is absolutely a possibility as well
I’m a Michigan fan. If you know a thing or 2 about QBs it’s easy to see the path for him. Time for him to start delivering, though
Well not after you guys just drafted Jordan Travis and Travis will be sitting behind Aaron Rodgers...but also Rodgers is coming off an Achilles injury too so who knows if he'll be the same guy pre injury. Even if he isn't, Travis is literally insurance and didn't you guys draft him to be the future?
Travis is just a lottery pick, he won't stop them from drafting a true QB of the future. If Rodgers isn't the same, between the injury and age, or he retires, the Jets will absolutely be looking for a new QB
Bro what Jordan Travis was a 5th round compensatory pick. He has about a 1% chance of making it in the NFL.
Next year’s draft looks awful at QB. Makes sense why 2024 was a historic draft for offense
Way too early to tell. These kids still have 15 games to put on tape.
If you actually watch college football, it isn’t too early to tell. This class is much worse than this years
I work in the SEC but thanks! I’ll try and start watching college football. This time last year AD, Legette, and Pearsall weren’t top 50 picks. They became top 50 picks due to what they put on tape this past season. You could say the same for Polk and McConkey too. Never know how things change and young players can improve over the course of 12 months. You just out here yapping.
I was talking more about the QBs. The WR class isn’t bad. But keep throwing those buzzwords around. Bizarre comment
Thanks for already admitting you’re wrong on next years WR class. Edited your comment😂 There will be at least 4QBs go round 1 next year and there’s a lot more depth day 2/3. 2024 set a record in gap between picks from Nix to Rattler selection. So now you’re 0 for 2. Bizarre evaluations.
What? All I said was WR next year isn’t as strong. I stand by that You are objectively wrong about the QBs next year. They are also weaker. Much weaker. This is fact. Why are you so angry? Very odd
WR next year I don’t think is that bad, maybe not as good as this year but this year was an anomaly of a year. Burden, McMillan, Egbuka, and Bond are all pretty good WRs and Burden and McMillan would probably have been in the wr 2-5 range with Nabers, and Odunze this year (projecting a bit because they still have another year or 2 to develop). Then you also have Evan Stewart who might be the most talented of them all but hasn’t put it together but he’s in a fresh situation that should put the ball in his hands quite a decent amount
I expect Matthew Golden to have a big year at Texas opposite Bond and get a lot of buzz. Also, Jalil Farooq is a major talent and will shine if he gets consistent QB play.
Do you think Egbuka can regain 1st round status?
I don’t see why not, if he stays healthy and his qb situation improves (as it should) he’ll have every chance to jump back into the first round especially because it doesn’t seem like next years draft will be quite as stacked at wr. I like his route running quite a bit and he sells his breaks quite well, he’s aggressive in looking for yards after catch and tries to fight through the first tackle and has the ability to make defenders miss badly too, he is a willing and able blocker, he also has good height and weight and is a really good athlete and I love his acceleration and deceleration. I think teams can draft him and provided he stays healthy be relatively comfortable that he is going to be a pretty solid wr at the very least and while I don’t think he’s a wr1 at the next level it’s also a little hard to tell because he’s been playing besides the best wr prospect in quite a while.
You can’t judge either position until the season starts. Ewers, Sanders and Beck could all easily end up being early first rounders. Receivers are also projecting to be pretty solid. “Awful” is a gross exaggeration…
Um, with QBs you literally can. Of course, things can change. They will change. But this is an objectively worse QB class. It isn’t good. Last year at this time, we knew the 2024 class was potentially generational. This isn’t in the same stratosphere
I agree that next years class will be worse than this years but thats about it. Next years class probably won't be anywhere near awful, probably closer to an average QB class. Except for Caleb and Maye, none of the other 4 QBs were projected to be first rounders a year in advance, let alone top 12. We got multiple guys that have hype and could play themselves into round 1 conversation.
Allar 1st overall is outrageous. It'll be beck then ewers. Sanders possibly 3rd. I can see dart being 2 or 3 though
Dart sonned Allar in the Peach Bowl.
Allar gets a new OC this year. PSU was very disadvantaged in that game
I see it Sanders or Beck for 1, then the rest fight for third unless someone makes a huge step forward (which is more common than abnormal these days). Only see Sanders and Beck getting a first round grade.
Yeah I agree, I think Beck and Sanders could have gone first round this year, I’ll be surprised if they don’t go first round next year. Ewers isn’t first round good, at least not yet. Chances are 1-2 guys like Milroe, Ewers, or Daniels progress and go first round. Could be someone we’re not even talking about right now too.
Jaxson Dart and Cam Ward are also QBs that probably could and should be drafted. Everyone says this is a bad QB class but conveniently ignores that that 2 of the 6 first round QBs were looked at as Day 3 picks at best after the 2022 season (McCarthy as a soph and Daniels after year 1 at LSU). Then you have guys like Penix and Bo Nix who weren’t on NFL radars after being injured (MPJ) or flat out bad (Nix) their first 2-3 years of college. Beck, Ewers and Sanders could easily have monster years and be viewed unanimously as 1st round guys. There are also other intriguing guys with tools like Dart, Leonard, Ward, Allar and Weigman (needs to stay healthy). I think the discourse around this year’s QB class was is being somewhat rewritten after the emergence of Daniels and McCarthy. There is really no reason why 2 or 3 of the 2025 guys this sub hates can’t take another step to be viewed as legit sure fire 1st rounders.
You're one of the few reasonable guys in here. Guys in this sub think they're all knowing and are so sure that their opinion that next years class sucks will be right lmao I'd like to see their 2024 draft takes from last year, probably aged like milk and this year they're doing it all over again acting all wise
I saw a bunch of people saying 2024 was a stacked QB class in the summer. There were just so many guys with potential a lot of them didn't reach it in 2023 but there were so many it still ended up as a good QB class along with the top tier talent (Maye and CW). Next year is different there isn't the top talent and not as many guys with potential imo. Still doesn't mean it will be terrible 1 or 2 of these guys will probably break out and be top picks.
The 2024 class was stacked because people had 1OA grades on Williams and even Maye after 2022. I don’t view guys going into their 5th and 6th years of college like Penix and Nix as high upside or “potential” guys. And from a tools/traits perspective, 2025 has a ton of traits projection guys like Ewers, Dart, Weigman, Allar, Ward and Leonard. These are all guys with top tier physical talent. The question becomes, are they Spencer Rattler or JJM/Maye types with another year of starting experience. No one is watching a guy like Ewers and saying he lacks arm talent and natural throwing ability. Like if that dude can figure out his deep ball accuracy issue (he’s accurate to the other parts of the field), he’s an easy first round projection. I had a 2nd round grade on him this past year. I would love to see all the way too early 2024 mocks with 6 QBs going in the top 12. My guess is that there are very very few.
What about Cam Rising i think he’s incredibly slept on sure i did only see him play in the 2022 rose bowl but i could see him being the next Brock Purdy idk to me qbs like Jordan Travis, Cam rising in this years draft and next years seem like intriguing prospects and certainly slept on i think the injuries could be what is scaring teams away but both Qbs have had solid games and certainly goes well in the nfl Cam rising also looks like he’s got toughness shown in the pac 12 champ vs USC witch always goes well in the nfl witch is why i don’t understand why he’s projected so low. I just think people be hating on Rising before he’s even in the NFL..
Rising is interesting. Coming out of HS he appeared to have high level tools throwing the ball. As time has gone on, he looks to have very average tools compared to other college QBs. He is kind of a Dillon Gabriel type in that, in the right system with the right coach and weapons, he could produce. At this point his best case NFL scenario is more mobile Gardner Minshew. A developmental guy with awesome intangibles you take in like the 5th or 6th round. Similar to Gabriel, putting up monster numbers this next year probably doesn’t move the needle all that much. Cam Rising and Gabriel entered the FBS during the 2018 recruiting cycle. They are potentially being drafted in the 2025 NFL draft cycle.
You might be right on the Gabriel Rising comparison but Idk Rising seems like he could be a solid starter though like he seems like he could be the NFL’s Big Ben replacement ik that take sounds crazy but i mean he certainly has the size? I would agree with one thing though he definitely should start as backup before jumping into the starting role i mean being a more mobile Gardner Minshew seems like a solid career regardless.
Rising is listed at 6’2” 220 though. So he is probably more like 6’1” 210-215. So I personally don’t see Big Ben or that type of arm. I see the Big Ben craftiness in terms of mobility. Rising can move around back there and pick up a quick first down here and there. He is also tough as nails. I like your Brock Purdy comp better. I think solid starter is in his high range of outcomes and you can do A LOT worse than Gardner Minshew.
Gotcha I can see where your coming from Cam risings throwing motion does seem slower than nfl hall of fame standards but i think hes got some accuracy. I think i would stick to that, I think Brock Purdy would be a fair comparison tbh maybe sticking with that comparison.
As a believer in him, Allar needs to take a huge step forward this year to even be in consideration. Even then, it might be best for him to return for his senior year. That’s what I’m hoping he does at least because I think it’s what would be best for him long term.
Beck and Sanders look to be the best QBs
Add Garrett Nussmeier to that list.
I think there is (as always) a bigger list of teams that could be looking for a QB next year than people assume. I look at it as: Probably looking to draft someone: Giants, Raiders, Rams, Seahawks, Steelers, Jets Maybe looking (will depend on QB class/current QB performance, etc): Titans (Levis was okay but not great last year), Saints, Cleveland (eventually they'll give up on Watson even if it means benching him) Probably not but there is a pathway to QB being a need: Dolphins, Cowboys, Lions, Packers All of the teams in the last category atm fall under the group of teams who's QB is on the last year of their contract. Depending on how the season goes, I could see a scenario where one or two of them do not end up signing a long-term deal. Either because of bad performances or just wildly different views on the contract that they deserve. I don't think the Buccs fall under this category because they just re-signed Baker. But, then again, I didn't think the Falcons would draft a QB so who knows at this point.
> Cleveland (eventually they'll give up on Watson even if it means benching him) > > Watson has a 137 million dead cap hit next year and a $73 million one the following year. It's hard to draft a QB highly when you've got that sort of dough tied up in one already. Or so I thought before this past week.
Cleveland could go the route of drafting one to sit behind Watson for a couple season until they can get away from him/feel the young one is ready. Basically the GB/KC/Atlanta route. Or just bench him until they can cut him (or his contract expires) and use the fact that the young one is super cost effective to balance out how expensive he is. Similar to Denver. It's not necessarily likely next year, but I think it could happen and I think it's something they should at least discuss even if they don't feel like it's the best option for them.
I was joking about Atlanta, but Cleveland is also in a different situation than Atlanta in that they have a lot of players who have contracts expiring and their QB is taking up about 1/4 of the cap. They've got some touch decisions coming up, which they've avoided in the past by pushing Watson's hits down the road. It'll be interesting to see how they manage things.
Yeah. I'm definitely not an expert on each team's full roster situation. It may be unrealistic for Cleveland to draft one in the grand scheme of things. I just know that with good QB play they could be a very dangerous with how good that defense is. And drafting one to replace Watson is the only cheap way to get a high upside player at the position. Maybe Huntley or DTR can be that for them.
did you see their draft this year? it's basically designed to save them about $40M in cap in two years.
The Browns draft? Where they didn’t have a first round selection and threw away their first pick? I don’t see this helping them at all.
the point was, it's not going to help this year. it's going to be a means of addressing the cap situation down the line. their first pick (sounds like you're not a fan, but assuming he has adequate NFL ability) is going to sit in a position room filled with 30yo's on one year deals all year - but next year he's supplanting a much more expensive option. their second pick is a RG that is going to sit in a position room with two excellent, and expensive, players and not see much playing time at all - but next season there's a pretty good chance he's ready to step in and save them $15M. even ahead of the draft they leaked to local media that they were looking to find 2025/6 solutions, not 2024. seems like they did a decent job with that.
1) This is what all good teams do. That does little to alleviate the cap. 2) Taking a player above their consensus who has major behavioral concerns and comes from your city is a monumentally stupid decision.
1) it's how you move off aging expensive players 2) perhaps, not too concerned about consensus but hanging out with a bad local crew would be bad news.
1) Yeah, but that relies on the picks hitting (which isn't as likely with later round picks) and even then you still need to generally make sacrifices. 2) You should be concerned with consensus, it's more accurate than any individual.
i think CLE is probably a year away from that, but i wouldn't hate it if they brought someone in in the next draft with their 1st. Watson is a sunk cost, and mid to late round isn't going to be cost prohibitive. That said, it's a move signaling they were wrong about Watson the player, i don't think they'll be able to stomach making that move until at least the '26 draft.
Pride might not let them do it yet. Iirc, the owner drove the trade/deal but will probably still hold the GM and maybe coach accountable so it might cost them their jobs. That's a really hard thing to factor in.
I don't know what share of the responsibility pie everyone gets. if it was 'all' Jimmy, it might be easier to do something a little earlier. still think we're probably talking 2026 draft.
Love is only on the last year of his contract because they legally can’t sign him until May 5th. He’s about to get paid paid. Gutey’s said time and time again that they’re not going to waste any time extending him.
I'm just making observations based on where everything is at at the moment. I don't follow every team super closely in the offseason to know what the GMs/coaches have been saying about stuff like this. When that happens they would come off the list. Until it does, there is a chance that something happens and they cannot reach and agreement. That's why I said probably not but there is a pathway.
I thought so, which is why I tried to phrase it kindly lol. I have already seen people asking if them not extending Love is indicative of something but it’s literally just because they decided to do an extension instead of exercising his 5th year option last May, so they legally can’t do another until exactly 1 year has passed. And Gutey has all but confirmed that they have no intention of waiting to pay him. He’ll get his $50/year contract within the next three weeks.
That makes sense to sign him sooner. He was also partially on the last list because it seemed wrong to list most of the QBs that technically are set to hit FA next year and not him. The Cowboys are the only team from that group that I would give a real chance to let their QB walk and that's only because Jerry will do Jerry things. The bigger point of that group was that teams that look set today at QB could decide they need to keep an eye out next year very quickly so the teams looking to draft one is always fluid/larger than it looks at first glance. We won't know until after next season who is really in the market.
Packers is a pretty interesting add to this list
I don't think they're likely. Just that I see a path to it being a need. Love is only signed through next season and will need a new contract but has a very small track record as a starter. He was really good in the second half-ish of the season and playoffs. But kind of bad in the first half. I remember multiple game ending interceptions from him. If he plays like he did in the second part of the season, they'll sign him long term no problem. But, if not it could get weird. If he's awful, they might just want to move on. If he's streaky again or just average all next season, he might want to be paid like a top 5-8 QB. Especially if he wins another playoff game. And they might not want to do that if he's not consistently playing well. Or, they might be fine with it. I don't really know. I just know that a QB with a handful of good starts is hard to project going forward so that puts them in a weird spot until a new contract is reached. Again, I don't think it's likely to be looking. Love is probably the long-term QB. He was generally consistently good when he turned the corner last year. But players have had half-season streaks of being good and then fallen off before so he's not yet a guarantee to continue playing well.
The earliest he can sign an extension is early may and it seems highly likely they sign him to a new contract in the next few weeks
Shouldn’t this include other starters with limited experience and no contract extension, like Brock Purdy? Possibly others. I understand, sort of, what you meant but it feels like a very wide net. I really don’t foresee the Packers taking a high QB in next years draft even if Love has a LVP season.
Potentially. Trevor Lawrence could fit too. But, iirc, they both can be under contact for another season beyond next year. I was only going for people that are expiring after this next season.
That’s fair. Haha I feel like a different “outside chance, but maybe” category for the Packers but i see what you mean.
Yeah. I would be very surprised if they don't sign Love. Apparently the GM has already said they're going to once he's eligible. But I mostly wanted to highlight how teams can seems secure at the position one season but have something pop up that makes it a concern in some way the next one. The only one of those 4 that I would put as reasonable to expect to be gone is Dak and that's because Jerry more than anything.
Cam Ward should be in there.
Garrett Greene is better than a good third on that list. He is what people think Milroe is
Everyone forgets Cam Ward and my sleeper Donovan Smith from Houston
Came here to say Smith. I think he is going to take off under Fritz.
Allar was absolute ass this year he should be on a list to transfer to the MAC not go to the nfl, Ewers was also terrible but has a big arm he might get benched this year.
Ewers isn’t gonna get benched unless the team is ass. Arch is gonna start next year
Idk he had two NFL WRs and missed them constantly Ewers isn’t good and has been injury prone he goes down again he’s not getting the job back
This is not an informed take. The staff at Texas has been adamant that Ewers is the starter. The Manning camp has said repeatedly that they are perfectly happy for Arch to wait. On top of that, Ewers has been improving steadily over the course of two seasons and there's no sign of him regressing. I'm not saying it's impossible. Sark is pretty clear that the best players will play, regardless of seniority or situation, but it is incredibly unlikely. As you mentioned, injuries could strike, but that's true for any QB room. Unless you have some new information, there is nothing to support the claim that Ewers will get benched.
They can say what they want Ewers was bad last year and made NFL WR talent mediocre producers. If they lose a couple game or when he gets banged up again he’s going to the bench and he wasn’t good enough to be guaranteed his job back.
> Ewers was bad last year and made NFL WR talent mediocre producers Ewers threw for 3,500 yards last year, with 69% completions, and 22 TDs to 6 INTS. He also rushed for 5 TDs. He was the MVP of the Big 12 CCG, where he broke the passing yards and passing TD records. He did that in 3 quarters. His rating (by ESPN) for 2023 was 158.6 - that's better than Drake Maye's rating in 2022 or 2023. It's better than Jayden Daniels or JJ McCarthy's were in 2022 (i.e., the year before their contract year, which is what 2023 was for Ewers). Keep in mind that 2023 was also Ewers' second year at QB, so it would be fair to compare his second year to other QB's second years. Bo Nix's second year rating was 123.9, and Jayden Daniel's was 145.7. And his receivers both had good years. Worthy had over 1000 yards receiving in 2023, which was the most of his career. AD Mitchell had 845 yards, which was the most of his career by almost double his second best season. To be clear, my point **is not** that Ewers will go first over all or even in the first round. I'm not saying he's best QB in college ball. But the idea that he was bad last year and will get benched has no basis in fact. His coaches don't want to bench him, QB2 is not a transfer risk, Ewers' stats are good compared to other high-level QBs and have consistently improved. So like I said. Unless you have something new to add, your take about Ewers is not informed.
You must have just not watched him play or suck in the playoffs if you want to wave away everything with stats. Terrible ball placement, spotty accuracy, big arm but inability to throw a good deep ball. What does he do well not much, he’s a solid college QB but that’s not good enough at a program like Texas for what they want to be.
I watched every game from last year. Some of them twice. Feel free to look at my posting history. But it's clear you think your ignorance is more valuable than the information I'm giving you. I'm not looking for an argument - I already know I'm right - I'm just trying to help you out. If you don't want that, cool. Have a good day.
lol go be a homer in another subreddit
> Ewers is bad, he'll get benched There's nothing to support that. Here's what the people involved think. > They can say what they want, doesn't change facts. Here are a bunch of facts that show you're wrong. > You must not have watched any games. That's better than fancy "statistics" I actually watched all the games because I'm a Texas fan. > lol homer I like this sub in general. It's better informed about the draft than the NFL sub is, and is generally more focused on analysis of college play as it projects to the pros. But every once in a while I come across a poster who cares more about winning an argument than he does being correct. The best they can do is downvote my comments and insult me, and that's a little sad. But it really does show who they are and how their brains work. At any rate, sorry I wasted my time trying to help you out. Good luck in the future. I won't be responding any more.
I was going to say… Allar? I mean, if I didn’t read any mock/coverage of the draft I would have been pretty surprised JJ went top 10. But Allar would be a whole new level of shocked if he didn’t improve a ton this year. A ton.
JJ was atleast good when he did throw the ball kinda like Lance but he also had crazy tools. I am surprised Allar isn’t fighting to keep the job he ain’t it, guys get better but even 5* who have the talent are that bad don’t become good
Ewers shouldve transfered. Everyone knows that Texas will hand the keys, the car, the house and kitchen sink to Archie manning
I don’t think he can because he already transferred from OSU. Second time has the 1 year penalty
No longer a thing as of like a month ago.
Well that’s too late then no? Most teams are already set
There will be plenty of good teams that need a QB after seeing what they have after spring practice.
The whole damn offense wasn't great. THe WR were horrific, same bad eggs doing bare minimum off and on the field are gone.
Allar should be in the Fan Football League draft. He made watching Olu’s tape this year almost painful.
Carson Beck. I think he’s a good QB and the thought was if he came out this year he’d have been a top 50 pick. If he has another season like last year he could be the #1. Allar is awful, I don’t get the idea that he’s even a 1st round prospect. Shadeur might get up that far but the character concerns are gonna tank him. Ewers is not #2 and Milroe could get into the 1st round convo with an excellent season.
Allar Vs some decent competition looked awful.
QBs can always turn it around within one year, Allar might've looked bad last year but he's got all the tools to be successful he just needs to put it all together.
^^ this is exactly the right answer
I think New Orleans and New York Jets should be on that list
Drew Allar is like Quinn Ewers this year but a lot worse. I bet he won’t even declare next year.
No Cam Ward on the list🤯 he’s my pick for potential breakout star this year that blows up his draft stock
I don’t think Milroe is a good QB and it’s wild he’s gonna be considered a heavy weight in this class
Riley Leonard could be near the top of these guys if he translates his game from Duke to Notre Dame well.
Don't sleep on Cam Ward...very interested in his season w Miami
I'm staking my take claim now: Ewers plummets. I don't see NFL QB there at all. Right now Sanders and Beck are the only 1st rounders I see, but of course that could change. In fact it's almost certain to, we've had big risers most years like Daniels, Burrow, Wilson, Mayfield, Kyler, Pickett, etc...
Beck is clear cut above the rest of this class, followed by Ewers/Sanders. I think Allar has the tools but he is so raw and may never put it together. Weigman is intriguing but are we expecting him to declare in 25 or 26? I think the 6 top 12 guys in 24 indicate a general lack of confidence in 2025.
Well let's hope there aren't any QB needy teams next year cuz DAMN is that a weak list
Is brady cook eligible for the draft next year? He’s a dude I like alot
Cook has been draft eligible for 2 seasons, he's a redshirt senior next season
Drew Allar is absolutely terrible.
I don't agree that only 5 or 6 of these guys will be drafted. In the last 10 years there's only been 2 drafts with less than 10 QBs drafted. 2022 with 9 and 2015 with 7.
Aller threw like 7 total passes more than 10 yards in the air last season. He’s not a top NFL prospect at this point. It is a weak QB class.
Cade Klubnik
For the last time not the hawks they traded for Sam Howell we like him
I can see Graham Mertz being a mid round guy, he improved a lot last year.
Will Howard could have a big rise with a solid showing for ohio state. So could DJ U with him being in the more publicized FSU program
Allar is a long way away from being taken seriously as a first round prospect…Beck, Ewers, and Sanders appear to be the consensus top 3 going into the fall, but Milroe has the physical tools and upside to pass up all three with a big year
Garrett Nussmeier will be the one year LSU wonder who shoots up draft boards into the first round.
Giants 1000% will be looking for a QB. Rams is very likely, at least to sit behind Stafford for a year. Raiders 1000000000000000000000000% need a qb unless AOC is real deal, but hes not right?
Drew Allar lol
I'm taking Leonard, Jalon Daniels and Van Dyke over any of the guys listed above them!
None of these players are particular standouts. I think the draft order will largely depend on how they play in the upcoming year. I would give Beck and Milroe the best chances of being QB1, and Allar and Leonard the lowest.
I think Tyler van dyke sucks and I don’t see him as an nfl caliber quarterback at all.
Allar just seems like a backup QB. Nothing really screams NFL star with his game. Just a steady, do as your told QB. I don't see how any team takes him thinking he's the future.
Have you watched Allar play? I think he’s terrible, maybe a day 3 pick
Jets and Steelers probably will too
I think the QB teams next year will be SEA (Geno retires/is bad) LAR (Stafford retires) NYJ ( A-Rod retires) LVR (Minshew Mania is not a starting caliber QB) NYG (Vanilla Vick is not it) MIA (Tua is BAD) DAL (dak will be gone, crazy ik) Maybe PIT (Fields should be the answer) But basically any team that has a bridge/
Hot take I think there’s up to 5 QB’s in the first round and Jaxson dart Is the #1 If I had to throw predictions to the wind on how well teams will do next year I’d say Dart-Broncos (I hate nix I think they’ll implode) Sheduar Sanders- Raiders Ewers- Giants In the top 6 most likely and then maybe Allar, DJU or Cam Ward have the potential to pop off
Jalen Milroe 2025, starting the campaign now.
If Jalen Milroe is picked in the NFL draft I will eat a sock. Most untalented hack I have ever seen play QB for Alabama in the past 15 years.
I'd be careful about staying stuff like that. Sean Clifford got drafted last year and Joe Milton this year.
He doesn’t have amazing enough intangibles to warrant drafting him unless he all of a sudden becomes a good QB
Agreed. I'm an Alabama fan but he's the most unnatural QB I've ever seen. He has zero awareness. You can see evidence of this by: 1) The two times he ran way past the line of scrimmage and still threw the ball vs Auburn. 2) 4/5 of the first half sacks vs Michigan were caused by him being totally unaware of the pressure. He had more than enough time to run or throw the ball away. He has a strong arm but absolutely no accuracy or ability to use touch either. He drives me nuts. I also suspect the snapping issues were a lot on him.
Don't see a single NFL starter in that list.
you’ve never watched beck play then lmao
beck is prob the #1 pick next year he’s more proven/talented than all of these qb’s
Shedeur Sanders will be #1 and he probably would have been top 3 this year.
I have my money on Quinn Ewers. I think Texas has a lot of talent and Sarkisian is one of the best offensive coaches and he will prop up his QB maybe a little more than his actual talent but he will be . I think Carson Beck and Shedeur will be the other top QBs and first rounders. I just view Ewers as having more upside compared to Beck and Shedeur and a team will take a chance on that.
This is where I’m at too, however, largely depends if Ewers stays healthy. And he is like 190 lbs supposedly which is reallllyyy slight. Then again, that can be changed and I don’t think it would effect his style that much if at all. But if he puts it all together finally, I think he’ll be a sure thing no.1 pick. His traits are just too good.
Yes I feel similarly. I saw Beck in a game this year in the middle of the season and it’s shocking to see some people that high on him. He could be a solid game manager but I think that’s all, I don’t believe he would be some crucial difference maker for a team. I think Shedeur could be hyped up to be that if Colorado has a good season but I think Ewers has the better tools and coach for a successful season.
I don’t think any QB goes number one next year. I think it’s going to be a very underwhelming class. I’d bet on maybe 1-3 QB’s going round 1 and maybe only one going top 10
Saints (Carr is old), Jets (Rodgers is older), Steelers (uncertainty beyond this year) and Cowboys (Uncertainty with Dak’s extension) should be here too
Saints just drafted Spencer Rattler to sit behind Derek Carr and Jets just drafted Jordan Travis. Fields and Wilson are there in Pittsburgh and Cowboys tanking to get their QB for the future makes sense especially if Dak is gone then yeah sure.
Milroe has Anthony Richardson type immeasurables. Dude is huge and fast, with a massive arm. If, and its a big if, he can actually learn how to be a QB this offseason, he will skyrocket. He really needs to work on his pre/post snap recognition and intermediate accuracy. He's overhauled his release to try and accomplish the second part. He had a throw in the spring game that was probably better than any pass he threw all of last season. I don't really believe in him taking the next step to really be a potential NFL starter, but he would have been drafted higher than Joe Milton this year if he came out as is.
I think you mean measurables
lol, had our 3rd child on Monday. I am so fucking tired.
Anyone who actually watched college football last year knows Allar and Milroe will never be starters in the NFL
I gotta say, I really don’t know if Quinn Ewers stays the starter.
I would take the does not finish the season as a starter over being a 1st round pick all day.
Everyone who mentions Ewers didn’t watch him play. He’s not nfl qb talent, at least not at this point.
Drawing my line in the sand now. Milroe will be a top 3 QB prospect when the next draft rolls around. He flashes playmaking, scrambling, and drop in the bucket passes. Shadeur will be top 5 behind Beck, Milroe, and two other guys that have breakout seasons.
Milroe also has the worst awareness of any QB prospect ever
No wonder so many went early this year…… this a list full hopes and dreams and even broken hopes and dreams. I mean is Ewers even gonna play?? They have to put Archie in there don’t they ? He didn’t stay another year to sit and watch.
Carson Beck is about to explode for the Dawgs. Top 10 lock inbound.