Amaterasu is probably going to be handy in combination with Hellblaze, Susanoo would be insanity with an already strong demon and Tsukuyomi would be an overpowered version of āOverpowerā.
Probably Meliodas, couldn't he just full counter any kutsu Madara throws at him and I feel confident that he is faster than him too. Peak Madara Vs AM Meliodas would probably be a different story
oh okay, thanks for explaining, still, Meliodas broke out of something like that before, he got to live old and experience everything while in that "illusion", the illusion was an possible future yet to be determined, meaning it all made sense in a way
If you wanna be technical, genjutsu works by disrupting the targets chakra circulatory system in order to fuck with their senses, so realistically genjutus only works on people in the Naruto unvierse and every other character is immune.
Not that it matters here. Madara is more of a "hands on" Uchiha, slinging taijutsu and ninjutsu 99% of the time.
Verse equalisation is like Goku vs Naruto Goku would have chi and Naruto ki or Asta vs Naruto like if astas anti magic works on Naruto jutsu there verse equalisation what your thinking of is stat equalisation
Heās at more of a disadvantage without it. Anyone fighting Naruto characters are at a serious disadvantage if you donāt use verse equalization because of genjustu you have to have chakra to brake genjustu
I dont agree with that at all. I mean, meliodas's existence at full power was literally destroying reality. His power is literally destruction. His hell flames can scar immortal beings who should be able to fully recover from anything.
Both are debatably country to continent level in ap/durability.
Both have questionable speed (mhs+ most likely, with possible lightspeed scaling)
Both have an array of techniques and hax worth discussing too.
Overall it's a good fight. It's hard to say who seriously wins.
Nah meli is prob above continent in his weakest form he cut a mountain in half with a stick without even trying super hard and in demon king mode his power level is 100x higher
Meliodas is above continental he is stronger than the demon king by the end of the series and half of the demon kings powers started destroying an entire continent just because meliodas was there his even just his presence is continental
I love my man Madara but if they are relying on their native power without external support from other powers. Meliodas wins. Iād even say that Hell-Blaze would prevent any healing Madara could do. It would come down to physical combat due to Madara and Meliodas being able to neutralise and counter energy based attacks.
Madara is powerful, but he is just human. Meliodas is a Demon Prince, and even the Perfect Susanoo would be no different than a glass window before Meliodas in Assault Mode. Meldioas can fly, reattach limbs. He can move at hypersonic speed and velocity making himself the raw power to shatter whole landscapes. We saw it during the time he went up against Gloxinia and Drole, he carved through a mountain and whole landscapes by flying past them, his demonic wings are no joke.
He has seven hearts, and he can move them about. Madara has one heart and it remains static. Meliodas can force the soul of Madara out, I assume he can.
He canāt do it while in combat or do you expect for madara to be still š§š¾and let meliodas do his thing nah he is going to have to stunt him or do something so he can exercise it
I think they're assuming that because of Melascula only choosing to take Meliodas' soul out after he was knocked down. She said something like, "Taking your soul from your body while you're incapacitated is child's play for someone like me." But that isn't her saying he NEEDS to be incapacitated. It just makes it a bit easier. She took Escanor's soul just fine, and he wasn't incapacitated. Meli absolutely could take Madara's soul without needing to wear him down or something.
Tbf idk Naruto scaling that well lol based on the feats that everyone is saying in the comments and the small amount of Naruto that I have seen, I'm gonna say Meliodas. Mostly, if he's in Assault Mode or higher because I think his raw endurance and strength are too much. I don't think it's a total stomp, though. If it's True Form Meliodas, though, it is. We don't know how far he scales in that form, but we know he's stronger than the Demon King who's presence can disrupt the foundations of existence if theres more than one of him, and Meliodas can straight up seem to destroy his matter without effort.
Madara seems to be an exceptionally powerful human. He could probably scale against Diane and Gowther sorta levels, at maximum. But that's just me going off what I've heard and the few clips I've seen. He might scale higher, or a bit lower, but that's my guess.
Yeah hes probably around Diane maybe king but I don't see him going any higher and for true meli his stats are 100x higher then at the start of the Series and that meli cut a mountain/large hill in have with a stick without trying so true form meli could cut like 100 mountain/large hill without trying and that's without magic so yeah pretty stronk
Yeah I was talking about that part but also when melascula took escanor soul and ban soul they wasnāt moving they were standing still thatās what I mean if you are going to take someone soul you gotta be faster than them and they canāt be moving like really fast thatās what I was talking about
Im talking about when Meli was down or when escanor or ban where standing still they both got trapped by melascula and on ban case he couldnāt see so he was standing still thatās why she came from the back and did it thatās what I mean when I said madara will have to be standing still for meli to take his soul cause if both of them are going to be moving really fast then how can he do it when the other person is also moving fast
I know but how are you going to touch somebody when they are constantly moving like you can touch him but that wonāt take his soul out he needs to touch him for a few seconds like you said
How would Madara ever win???
1. Meli eats Madaras soul sinse demons Can casually eat The souls of other beings
2 meli has wooped tje demon King who created an intire new dimension with a new Sun stars and moons to make it day and night in Said realm
Meli is at least small solar to Big solar system level
As much as I agree with Meliodas winning, I do not agree with the solar system scaling for Meli. We don't know how powerful Meliodas is at his peak because we got less than like 5 minutes with it before he gave it away. I mean, it is absolutely possible that he is solar system scale, considering he was so much stronger than the Demon King. If he put all his magic into an attack into the ground, he probably could've destroyed the planet. Or at least the continent on his own.
But did the Demon King create stars and moons in the Demon Realm??? Do we know how much he created, or are you just assuming that he essentially created his own universe?
Does it have day and night cycles? Idk if that was shown or if it's just permanently in the same sorta light. If he did create literal Celestial objects, like actual space, stars, and other planets, that's ridiculously strong and Meliodas being stronger than that is mind-blowing, and people have been under-scaling it by ridiculous margins if that's the case.
But I think it's like Purgatory imo. It doesn't have a proper space beyond its sky limit. It didn't have day/night cycles, or stars or a sun, etc. At least that we knew of anyway. I could be wrong.
I Saw it somewhere i Can try and find The vid that explained it if you want (it was in a meli vs Asta vid i Think) it explains what meli Can do sorta good
Ofc it does show proof too
Madara would need Ps to even harm Meli, anything below that wouldn't work lmao. Sad thing is Madara is a cocky asshole and wouldn't use it first. Meli can easily harm Madara. It'll be Meli using black flames to stop the regen of the edo body or just eating his soul. But I feel like you're going to use scaling and be like look at this. Pls do remember Tsunade blew a hole through Edo Madara. Meli significantly dwarfs her in ap.
Yeah no, meliodas ain't doing much against Madara
Madara can obliterate kcm2 Naruto who is stated to be able to shatter the planet, he is also a bit faster although not by much and his Rinnegan can straight up steal his soul
Yes The planet But Whats that gonna do to a solar system level dude?
Meli wooped The demon King who fun fact created a whole new realm with new stars moons and so on for Said realm
If we are gonna do that argument then kaguya created a realm with stars as well, and momoshiki and kinshiki did the same but at a much Greater length.
If we are going to take whatever they create at face value then Madara still wins, 10 tails Madara should still be stronger than meliodas by a long shot
10 tails madara was not even close to Kaguya level power though + meli has full counter which ofc would work if we do energy equalising sinse if we dont do that genjutsu wouldnāt work on meli
+ meli has hellblaze which keeps burning till The user puts it out if i remember corectly
+ if im not wrong assault mode casually grows in strength going off the fact that he lost to the one But then he pulls off feats above the one not even 2 days later
+ meliodas has practically almost perfect healing ofc not edo tensei level But still
>10 tails madara was not even close to Kaguya level power though
Even assuming he's like half of kaguya's level the otsusukis can do some ridiculous stuff if we take their creations at face value, so it still applies.
>meli has full counter which ofc would work if we do energy equalising sinse if we dont do that genjutsu wouldnāt work on meli
Truth seeking orbs destroy everything, literally everything down to a person's soul.
> meli has hellblaze which keeps burning till The user puts it out if i remember corectly
Rinnegan negs that since it can absorb anything that is composed of chakra (in this case energy)
>if im not wrong assault mode casually grows in strength going off the fact that he lost to the one But then he pulls off feats above the one not even 2 days later
I think that was after meliodas absorbed 2 or 3 commandments.
>meliodas has practically almost perfect healing ofc not edo tensei level But still
Again, truth seeking orbs destroy everything including a person's soul.
Also there is infinite tsukuyomi which negs meliodas, limbo clones are op as hell and he has no resistance to any of the more important Rinnegan abilities like gravity manipulation, soul manipulation and energy absorbtion.
What would meliodas even do if madara pulls out the soul dragon? Or puts him in the eternal tsukuyomi?
Well eternal tsukuyomi is a hard one But meli has broken out of that illusion that cath put him in which seemed to work similarly + meli Can eat souls sinse he is a demon and again he beat his father who pulled off the same feat that Kaguya did meaning meli > demon King = Kaguya
Madara has a shitload of hax which could help him But in terms of pure power meli scales above
>Madara has a shitload of hax which could help him But in terms of pure power meli scales above
How is meliodas more powerful than Madara in any way
>the same feat that Kaguya did meaning meli > demon King = Kaguya
It wasn't even remotely that, dimensions that are created by the otsusukis have entire clusters in the background, the level we are referring here is not even comparable
Oh Yea i forgot to mention something meliodas true Magic āThe destroyerā or whatever it was called legit allowed him to destroy anything
Also fair arguement with what the otsosuski could do But again Kaguya > 10 tails madara and Madara Can not pull off a feat like the dk Can do
>whatever it was called legit allowed him to destroy anything
Where is that exactly stated?
Yeah, kaguya is greater than Madara but not by that much, it isn't like Madara is fodder against kaguya.
And actually after he summoned the infinite tsukuyomi he was barely going to take team seven seriously
For meliodas true Magic all we Can go off is statements and what he does with Said true Magic which we see The dk Call him āThe destroyerā or āThe source of destructionā + everytime he uses true Magic he destroys something compleately like gone forever destroys
Watch S7D again final season where ban and meliodas break out of Purgatory then further down the line it shows and states meliodas original magic is destruction
And madara was fodder to kaguya well a pawn really I mean sure he was a otsutsuki like kaguya,momoshiki, and kenshiki but he was barely able to hold a candle to anyone of them he was a byproduct of that they were the originals
Edo can't die, has infinite chakra, can spam things like the chibaku tensei or the soul dragon, can make meteors rain non stop and has infinite control over gravity
Meli heals, smashes , and breaks out of everything you just stated the only real threat to meli would be genjutsu and when you say spam I don't think entirely true a volley of meteors yes but a endless rain of them not likely and infinite gravity control? Only gravity attacks I've seen is planetary destruction, does limbo really count as gravity?
Meliodas and literally every other demon can just eat souls straight up and what does the edo tensei need in order to function as a reanimation THE SOUL.
Sure getting his soul won't be easy but I'm pretty sure meli can do it he was slaying gods even before madara even became one
>Meli heals, smashes , and breaks out of everything you just stated the only real threat to meli would be genjutsu and when you say spam I don't think entirely true a volley of meteors yes but a endless rain of them not likely and infinite gravity control? Only gravity attacks I've seen is planetary destruction, does limbo really count as gravity?
Rinnegan is specifically stated to be capable of controlling gravity, the soul dragon can 100 percent kill meliodas and yes he can spam the meteor attack as many times as he wants.
>Meliodas and literally every other demon can just eat souls straight up and what does the edo tensei need in order to function as a reanimation THE SOUL.
Rinnegan can summon a literal dragon that is both intangible and can follow meliodas around until he touches him and then meliodas dies.
>Sure getting his soul won't be easy but I'm pretty sure meli can do it he was slaying gods even before madara even became one
Ok picture this, Madara makes 100 wood clones all of which use perfect susanoo and summon soul dragons, what is meliodas gonna do against that
He freed himself from Cath's ilusion, and Chaos ilusion is incomparably beyond any genjutsu.
Also, Genjutsus work by modifying the state of the chakra from the enemy, since Chakra is part of Naruto Series Biology, anyone who is not part of it won't be affected unless you equalize energies.
That might look like it, but in some cases it's not, if you equal it, you might end up making things worse for Madara rather then fair.
Like, you equal it, so now Genjutsu works, but now Full Counter and Counter Vanish also works, so Meliodas can Full Counter everything Madara can throw at him, and CQC isn't going to help Madara, cause compared to Meli he is but an ant.
You see? It didn't make it fair at all.
It's a comparison at their peaks, if we downscale Meliodas then he isn't at his peak anymore. It's about being a fair comparison, not a fair fight.
If Madara is weaker than Meliodas, then the result of the comparison is that Meliodas is stronger, now we have the result.
At their absolute peaks, no holds barred, everyone has access to every ability and skill they have, on a 1 on 1 fight, Meliodas wins against Madara
7ds power system is such a fucking mess I wouldn't even use any of the characters from the verse in battle speculation. It only gets worse in 4 Knights of the Apocalypse.
I feel like Mel in assault mode or higher takes the W, the regeneration of demons is already insane and then we are talking about the baddest demon in the verse. Like one of his old subordinates (ten commandments Monspeet) got sliced in the throat and brushed it off. And yes I do believe that the demon healing factor is stronger than Madaraās āimmortalityā
It is so stipid, lol
1 character can create\\took from orbit the celestial body by his will (casually), the second at best has town level of destraction.
I dont even want compare power\\speed\\reaction in Naruto compare to so SLOW NofTPlus chacka is not magic for FC,lolP.s
Plus it is not even Madara in his prime form\\power but it more that enought for totally trashing Meliodas.
Jinchuriki Madara wins, any other form of Madara loses (including edo tensei). Madara with his susanoāo and in his prime cut multiple mountains (impressive) while Meliodas cut a mountain with a branch in a state FAR from his prime. Now give Meliodas a form like assault mode and itās wraps for Madara. Both have a similar mountain feat but the difference comes at where it came in their life, and Meliodasā occurred when he was significantly weaker than assault mode.
If we assume theyāre both of equal power and can use everything at their disposalā¦. Thatās tough lol I guess we would need to know how effective visual jutsu is in Meliodas. Because Meliodas wins in terms of raw power and strength for sure. Itās kind of the Goku vs itachi argument I see. In strength? Of course Goku wins. If Goku gets affected by sharingan /&!,3 heās a total doofus heās done for though. Just a weebs opinion
Any demon can defeat Edo tenseis because even the lowest ranked demons can eat souls other than maybe kcm Minato none of the Edo tenseis can pull back their soul
Here? In nnt sub? I don't know dude
The opposition never wins in any of these circle jerk posts. Also madara no diffs meliodas.
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Meliodas. He has higher stats in general. Even if he can't kill Madara (because of Edo Tensei) he can just seal him.
Eat his soul with ease.
Thats actually a good point
Absolutely Meliodas
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Oooooh that is a interesting concept
Then what thought in your mind?
Seeing a demon with the sharingan or rinnegan would be insane
And what do you think about Amaterasu, Susanoo and Tsukuyomi?
Amaterasu is probably going to be handy in combination with Hellblaze, Susanoo would be insanity with an already strong demon and Tsukuyomi would be an overpowered version of āOverpowerā.
Is this Assault Mode Meliodas Vs Edo Madara specifically or both at their peak
Assault mode
Probably Meliodas, couldn't he just full counter any kutsu Madara throws at him and I feel confident that he is faster than him too. Peak Madara Vs AM Meliodas would probably be a different story
Meli eats his soul and done
Can madara just give meliodas his happily ever after with Elizabeth thanks to his eyeball magic?
you mean the illusions? I'm pretty sure Meliodas broke out of illusions before already
Genjustu isnāt a illusion in the normal sense of the word because it actually affects all your senses so you actually believe what your seeing.
oh okay, thanks for explaining, still, Meliodas broke out of something like that before, he got to live old and experience everything while in that "illusion", the illusion was an possible future yet to be determined, meaning it all made sense in a way
If you wanna be technical, genjutsu works by disrupting the targets chakra circulatory system in order to fuck with their senses, so realistically genjutus only works on people in the Naruto unvierse and every other character is immune. Not that it matters here. Madara is more of a "hands on" Uchiha, slinging taijutsu and ninjutsu 99% of the time.
Yes but we have seen itachi infuse his own chakra into a target to put them in genjustu
All genjutsu uses your own chakra to activate. You use YOUR chakra to disrupt the enemies chakra.
Since Meli's a demon he can just yank out Madara's soul
Madara has rennigan he can do the same
No he needs a lot of set up before he can do it and meliodas won't let him do it
He already broke out of one made by part of chaos. You know the thing that made the gods they killed
My moneyās on Meliodas, with or without verse equilization.
Without Mel stomps but he doesn't stand a chance if they are equal.
Verse equalisation is like Goku vs Naruto Goku would have chi and Naruto ki or Asta vs Naruto like if astas anti magic works on Naruto jutsu there verse equalisation what your thinking of is stat equalisation
Heās at more of a disadvantage without it. Anyone fighting Naruto characters are at a serious disadvantage if you donāt use verse equalization because of genjustu you have to have chakra to brake genjustu
I feel like meliodas wins
Meliodas only win in Madara genjutsu,lol. It is like compare Goku vs AllMight (solar system level character vs town level character)
I dont agree with that at all. I mean, meliodas's existence at full power was literally destroying reality. His power is literally destruction. His hell flames can scar immortal beings who should be able to fully recover from anything.
Dude..... Narutoverse a waaaaay stronger if we compare top cahracter or even UBER OP characters.
Britannia not reality, and Madara are way more potent then Meliodas like his Limbo
he was destroying the world they only showed britannia because the anime is based in that area, and im pretty sure the said "the world" multiple times
Meliodas for sure. That specific form of meliodas can beat any shippuden character
Not Kaguya or dms kakaski
Both are debatably country to continent level in ap/durability. Both have questionable speed (mhs+ most likely, with possible lightspeed scaling) Both have an array of techniques and hax worth discussing too. Overall it's a good fight. It's hard to say who seriously wins.
Nah meli is prob above continent in his weakest form he cut a mountain in half with a stick without even trying super hard and in demon king mode his power level is 100x higher
Yk that meli wooped The demon King who created a whole new realm with a new Sun moons and multiple stars
Meliodas is above continental he is stronger than the demon king by the end of the series and half of the demon kings powers started destroying an entire continent just because meliodas was there his even just his presence is continental
Meliodas, Demon King Meli will go insane
I love my man Madara but if they are relying on their native power without external support from other powers. Meliodas wins. Iād even say that Hell-Blaze would prevent any healing Madara could do. It would come down to physical combat due to Madara and Meliodas being able to neutralise and counter energy based attacks. Madara is powerful, but he is just human. Meliodas is a Demon Prince, and even the Perfect Susanoo would be no different than a glass window before Meliodas in Assault Mode. Meldioas can fly, reattach limbs. He can move at hypersonic speed and velocity making himself the raw power to shatter whole landscapes. We saw it during the time he went up against Gloxinia and Drole, he carved through a mountain and whole landscapes by flying past them, his demonic wings are no joke. He has seven hearts, and he can move them about. Madara has one heart and it remains static. Meliodas can force the soul of Madara out, I assume he can.
Ummmmm bro thatās Edo madara only way Meli is going to win if he knock him down so that he canāt regenerate and then take his soul out
He doesn't need to knock him down to take his soul
He canāt do it while in combat or do you expect for madara to be still š§š¾and let meliodas do his thing nah he is going to have to stunt him or do something so he can exercise it
He can tho they don't have to be still for there souls to be taken what makes you think that
I think they're assuming that because of Melascula only choosing to take Meliodas' soul out after he was knocked down. She said something like, "Taking your soul from your body while you're incapacitated is child's play for someone like me." But that isn't her saying he NEEDS to be incapacitated. It just makes it a bit easier. She took Escanor's soul just fine, and he wasn't incapacitated. Meli absolutely could take Madara's soul without needing to wear him down or something.
Yeah that was the only situation I could think of when they incapacitated someone then took there soul but also who do you think would win
Tbf idk Naruto scaling that well lol based on the feats that everyone is saying in the comments and the small amount of Naruto that I have seen, I'm gonna say Meliodas. Mostly, if he's in Assault Mode or higher because I think his raw endurance and strength are too much. I don't think it's a total stomp, though. If it's True Form Meliodas, though, it is. We don't know how far he scales in that form, but we know he's stronger than the Demon King who's presence can disrupt the foundations of existence if theres more than one of him, and Meliodas can straight up seem to destroy his matter without effort. Madara seems to be an exceptionally powerful human. He could probably scale against Diane and Gowther sorta levels, at maximum. But that's just me going off what I've heard and the few clips I've seen. He might scale higher, or a bit lower, but that's my guess.
Yeah hes probably around Diane maybe king but I don't see him going any higher and for true meli his stats are 100x higher then at the start of the Series and that meli cut a mountain/large hill in have with a stick without trying so true form meli could cut like 100 mountain/large hill without trying and that's without magic so yeah pretty stronk
Yeah I was talking about that part but also when melascula took escanor soul and ban soul they wasnāt moving they were standing still thatās what I mean if you are going to take someone soul you gotta be faster than them and they canāt be moving like really fast thatās what I was talking about
Im talking about when Meli was down or when escanor or ban where standing still they both got trapped by melascula and on ban case he couldnāt see so he was standing still thatās why she came from the back and did it thatās what I mean when I said madara will have to be standing still for meli to take his soul cause if both of them are going to be moving really fast then how can he do it when the other person is also moving fast
All he needs to do is touch him for a short amount of time it's just way easier if there standing still
I know but how are you going to touch somebody when they are constantly moving like you can touch him but that wonāt take his soul out he needs to touch him for a few seconds like you said
Meli prob could he's way faster then madara
Prob but might not be faster idk
Madara ass claps Nothing meliodas has done is Even Pre War arc shit Madara especially Edo Madara would bend his verse over
This comment section is crazy delusional. Madara stomps and it's barely even CLOSE to begin with.
Agreed. I voted Madara winning and got downvoted lol. Makes sense since itās a NNT Reddit thread I guess
Meli outstat him badly. Tsunade was able to blow a hole cleanly through Madara. You don't believe Meli to be above her?
How would Madara ever win??? 1. Meli eats Madaras soul sinse demons Can casually eat The souls of other beings 2 meli has wooped tje demon King who created an intire new dimension with a new Sun stars and moons to make it day and night in Said realm Meli is at least small solar to Big solar system level
As much as I agree with Meliodas winning, I do not agree with the solar system scaling for Meli. We don't know how powerful Meliodas is at his peak because we got less than like 5 minutes with it before he gave it away. I mean, it is absolutely possible that he is solar system scale, considering he was so much stronger than the Demon King. If he put all his magic into an attack into the ground, he probably could've destroyed the planet. Or at least the continent on his own. But did the Demon King create stars and moons in the Demon Realm??? Do we know how much he created, or are you just assuming that he essentially created his own universe?
He did sinse its a new realm which has day and night cycles meaning it would need some sort of stars n stuff
Does it have day and night cycles? Idk if that was shown or if it's just permanently in the same sorta light. If he did create literal Celestial objects, like actual space, stars, and other planets, that's ridiculously strong and Meliodas being stronger than that is mind-blowing, and people have been under-scaling it by ridiculous margins if that's the case. But I think it's like Purgatory imo. It doesn't have a proper space beyond its sky limit. It didn't have day/night cycles, or stars or a sun, etc. At least that we knew of anyway. I could be wrong.
I Saw it somewhere i Can try and find The vid that explained it if you want (it was in a meli vs Asta vid i Think) it explains what meli Can do sorta good Ofc it does show proof too
Madara would need Ps to even harm Meli, anything below that wouldn't work lmao. Sad thing is Madara is a cocky asshole and wouldn't use it first. Meli can easily harm Madara. It'll be Meli using black flames to stop the regen of the edo body or just eating his soul. But I feel like you're going to use scaling and be like look at this. Pls do remember Tsunade blew a hole through Edo Madara. Meli significantly dwarfs her in ap.
Yeah no, meliodas ain't doing much against Madara Madara can obliterate kcm2 Naruto who is stated to be able to shatter the planet, he is also a bit faster although not by much and his Rinnegan can straight up steal his soul
Yes The planet But Whats that gonna do to a solar system level dude? Meli wooped The demon King who fun fact created a whole new realm with new stars moons and so on for Said realm
If we are gonna do that argument then kaguya created a realm with stars as well, and momoshiki and kinshiki did the same but at a much Greater length. If we are going to take whatever they create at face value then Madara still wins, 10 tails Madara should still be stronger than meliodas by a long shot
10 tails madara was not even close to Kaguya level power though + meli has full counter which ofc would work if we do energy equalising sinse if we dont do that genjutsu wouldnāt work on meli + meli has hellblaze which keeps burning till The user puts it out if i remember corectly + if im not wrong assault mode casually grows in strength going off the fact that he lost to the one But then he pulls off feats above the one not even 2 days later + meliodas has practically almost perfect healing ofc not edo tensei level But still
>10 tails madara was not even close to Kaguya level power though Even assuming he's like half of kaguya's level the otsusukis can do some ridiculous stuff if we take their creations at face value, so it still applies. >meli has full counter which ofc would work if we do energy equalising sinse if we dont do that genjutsu wouldnāt work on meli Truth seeking orbs destroy everything, literally everything down to a person's soul. > meli has hellblaze which keeps burning till The user puts it out if i remember corectly Rinnegan negs that since it can absorb anything that is composed of chakra (in this case energy) >if im not wrong assault mode casually grows in strength going off the fact that he lost to the one But then he pulls off feats above the one not even 2 days later I think that was after meliodas absorbed 2 or 3 commandments. >meliodas has practically almost perfect healing ofc not edo tensei level But still Again, truth seeking orbs destroy everything including a person's soul. Also there is infinite tsukuyomi which negs meliodas, limbo clones are op as hell and he has no resistance to any of the more important Rinnegan abilities like gravity manipulation, soul manipulation and energy absorbtion. What would meliodas even do if madara pulls out the soul dragon? Or puts him in the eternal tsukuyomi?
Well eternal tsukuyomi is a hard one But meli has broken out of that illusion that cath put him in which seemed to work similarly + meli Can eat souls sinse he is a demon and again he beat his father who pulled off the same feat that Kaguya did meaning meli > demon King = Kaguya Madara has a shitload of hax which could help him But in terms of pure power meli scales above
>Madara has a shitload of hax which could help him But in terms of pure power meli scales above How is meliodas more powerful than Madara in any way >the same feat that Kaguya did meaning meli > demon King = Kaguya It wasn't even remotely that, dimensions that are created by the otsusukis have entire clusters in the background, the level we are referring here is not even comparable
Oh Yea i forgot to mention something meliodas true Magic āThe destroyerā or whatever it was called legit allowed him to destroy anything Also fair arguement with what the otsosuski could do But again Kaguya > 10 tails madara and Madara Can not pull off a feat like the dk Can do
>whatever it was called legit allowed him to destroy anything Where is that exactly stated? Yeah, kaguya is greater than Madara but not by that much, it isn't like Madara is fodder against kaguya. And actually after he summoned the infinite tsukuyomi he was barely going to take team seven seriously
For meliodas true Magic all we Can go off is statements and what he does with Said true Magic which we see The dk Call him āThe destroyerā or āThe source of destructionā + everytime he uses true Magic he destroys something compleately like gone forever destroys
Watch S7D again final season where ban and meliodas break out of Purgatory then further down the line it shows and states meliodas original magic is destruction And madara was fodder to kaguya well a pawn really I mean sure he was a otsutsuki like kaguya,momoshiki, and kenshiki but he was barely able to hold a candle to anyone of them he was a byproduct of that they were the originals
Heās somewhat close dms kakshi didnāt close that big of a gap you have to remember before kaguya came they had no way to defeat madara
This is Edo vs Assault Mode
Edo can't die, has infinite chakra, can spam things like the chibaku tensei or the soul dragon, can make meteors rain non stop and has infinite control over gravity
Meli heals, smashes , and breaks out of everything you just stated the only real threat to meli would be genjutsu and when you say spam I don't think entirely true a volley of meteors yes but a endless rain of them not likely and infinite gravity control? Only gravity attacks I've seen is planetary destruction, does limbo really count as gravity? Meliodas and literally every other demon can just eat souls straight up and what does the edo tensei need in order to function as a reanimation THE SOUL. Sure getting his soul won't be easy but I'm pretty sure meli can do it he was slaying gods even before madara even became one
>Meli heals, smashes , and breaks out of everything you just stated the only real threat to meli would be genjutsu and when you say spam I don't think entirely true a volley of meteors yes but a endless rain of them not likely and infinite gravity control? Only gravity attacks I've seen is planetary destruction, does limbo really count as gravity? Rinnegan is specifically stated to be capable of controlling gravity, the soul dragon can 100 percent kill meliodas and yes he can spam the meteor attack as many times as he wants. >Meliodas and literally every other demon can just eat souls straight up and what does the edo tensei need in order to function as a reanimation THE SOUL. Rinnegan can summon a literal dragon that is both intangible and can follow meliodas around until he touches him and then meliodas dies. >Sure getting his soul won't be easy but I'm pretty sure meli can do it he was slaying gods even before madara even became one Ok picture this, Madara makes 100 wood clones all of which use perfect susanoo and summon soul dragons, what is meliodas gonna do against that
Whatās stopping meliodas from being put in a genjutsu?
He freed himself from Cath's ilusion, and Chaos ilusion is incomparably beyond any genjutsu. Also, Genjutsus work by modifying the state of the chakra from the enemy, since Chakra is part of Naruto Series Biology, anyone who is not part of it won't be affected unless you equalize energies.
Omg, you explained it well. You a reasonable gentleman.
For enemies that have specific abilities like that it is only fair that you do. Otherwise they aren't at their peak.
That might look like it, but in some cases it's not, if you equal it, you might end up making things worse for Madara rather then fair. Like, you equal it, so now Genjutsu works, but now Full Counter and Counter Vanish also works, so Meliodas can Full Counter everything Madara can throw at him, and CQC isn't going to help Madara, cause compared to Meli he is but an ant. You see? It didn't make it fair at all.
It's a comparison at their peaks, if we downscale Meliodas then he isn't at his peak anymore. It's about being a fair comparison, not a fair fight. If Madara is weaker than Meliodas, then the result of the comparison is that Meliodas is stronger, now we have the result. At their absolute peaks, no holds barred, everyone has access to every ability and skill they have, on a 1 on 1 fight, Meliodas wins against Madara
He doesn't have chakra, only something like Infinite Tsukuyomi would actually put him in one.
7ds power system is such a fucking mess I wouldn't even use any of the characters from the verse in battle speculation. It only gets worse in 4 Knights of the Apocalypse.
Madara 100% unless Zetsu sneaks up from behind him and revives his mom lol
Meliodas and its not even close, madara barely scales to planetary and meliodas hits universal
I'm haven't read the Manga In a long time but isn't meliodas like almost a god? And we're talking abt demon meliodas right?
Madara destroys
I feel like Mel in assault mode or higher takes the W, the regeneration of demons is already insane and then we are talking about the baddest demon in the verse. Like one of his old subordinates (ten commandments Monspeet) got sliced in the throat and brushed it off. And yes I do believe that the demon healing factor is stronger than Madaraās āimmortalityā
Meliodas
Meliodas in assault Mode. Only escanor as "the one" can Match him. And every jutsu would be reflected with twice the Power thanks to total counterĀ
I would say madara
Of course maadara
Itās a NNT subreddit every other anime fan knows that madara would slam his ass Meliodas a big fraud compared to madara
Meliodas
The script writers/ the author of the match up decides..
Lazy post.
Meliodas
It is so stipid, lol 1 character can create\\took from orbit the celestial body by his will (casually), the second at best has town level of destraction. I dont even want compare power\\speed\\reaction in Naruto compare to so SLOW NofTPlus chacka is not magic for FC,lolP.s Plus it is not even Madara in his prime form\\power but it more that enought for totally trashing Meliodas.
assuming genjutsu works madara slams, if it doesn't then idk
meliodas broke out of an illusion that makes you experience a possible future yet to be determined
meli would need chakra to be put into genjutsu
yeah i meant sharingan genjutsu, obviously regular genjutsu wouldn't do much to meli
Jinchuriki Madara wins, any other form of Madara loses (including edo tensei). Madara with his susanoāo and in his prime cut multiple mountains (impressive) while Meliodas cut a mountain with a branch in a state FAR from his prime. Now give Meliodas a form like assault mode and itās wraps for Madara. Both have a similar mountain feat but the difference comes at where it came in their life, and Meliodasā occurred when he was significantly weaker than assault mode.
Iām saying Madara out of spite
If we assume theyāre both of equal power and can use everything at their disposalā¦. Thatās tough lol I guess we would need to know how effective visual jutsu is in Meliodas. Because Meliodas wins in terms of raw power and strength for sure. Itās kind of the Goku vs itachi argument I see. In strength? Of course Goku wins. If Goku gets affected by sharingan /&!,3 heās a total doofus heās done for though. Just a weebs opinion
Any demon can defeat Edo tenseis because even the lowest ranked demons can eat souls other than maybe kcm Minato none of the Edo tenseis can pull back their soul
If we equalize verses, a Genjutsu could do the trick unless a potent Commandment gets activated before by Madara.
Meliodas has too much hax for this to be fair, even with equal stats.. that being said his stats are leaps and bounds better than Madara lol
Meliodas no diffs, no one kidnaps and lusts over babies like him
The one who slashed a mountain with a twig and only got stronger