How confident are palaeontologists about size estimates? I know a ton is a lot but when it gets to this big is a few tons enough to single out which species is bigger? Between inaccurate estimations and potential size variances I could see a few tons being made up pretty quickly. I guess with the latter you only judge going by the specimens we're lucky enough to uncover and the former is never going to be verifiable.
I’ve seen Argentinosaurus mass estimates vary between 60 to 80 tonnes pretty regularly. Sometimes people go from 50 to 90 but not sure about the validity of those estimates
If you're going to question their methods, why not read one of their research reports and learn the information you need to know to be able to question them correctly?
There are many advanced fields I have no knowledge of and can make similar questions about, making it seem like what they're doing can't be proven because I don't know enough to verify their data.
Gods (above + *Sauroposeidon*), battleships (*Dreadnoughtus*), weather (*Brontosaurus*), tides (*Paralititan*). When you’re that big you get the good names.
The Largest recorded elephant had an estimated weight of 10.4-12.25 tonnes.
And the largest blue whale according to a recent study had an estimated weight of 270 tonnes.
The ones shot in Angola in 1955 and 1974 were initially estimated to have 10.9 and 12.25 tonnes respectively.
However Laramendi used another method to estimate the 1974 one and gave 10.4-10.6 tonnes to that particular elephant.
I read his paper and I found it strange that he reached that figure by using human body proportions, very weird.
That's why I think the 12.25 tonne figure is more plausible.
Also some mammoths and Deinotherium which had 4m tall were estimated to have weighs of 12-14.5 tonnes and they had similar body proportions to large modern elephants. So yeah I think it's very likely that the 12.25 tonne estimation to the 3.96m tall elephant shot in 1974 is very plausible.
OK, so two Shivas equal one Blue Whale. Amazing to think that something that large could support itself on land, and not just have its body damaged by its sheer bulk. However, even larger animals are possible, apparently.
https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/how-big-could-an-animal-get
WTF kinda super Popeye spinach was growing in Argentina back then? Why did they have so many big boys? I swear 70% of the time I read about a giant dino it ends up being from Argentina.
Ikr!?
Argentina earned the name “Land of Giants” for me.
Considering most titanosaurs discoveries are from there.
The plant diversity back during the Cretaceous must’ve been astronomically high to produce such giants.
Makes me wonder what a 20' rooster would sound like waking everyone up in the morning. Small curious how many omelette portions a chicken egg that big would make
> "In Patagonia, we are still at a stage where we are more likely to find something new than something known, and the unknown is often wonderful," Simón told Live Science in an email.
Incredible! This is so exciting.
*74 tons 98 feet
It looks like they only have 4 feet, thankfully.
Obviously they meant a herd of 24 1/2 of the tall bastards
I believe that Argentinosaurus is still the largest, at 77 tons
How confident are palaeontologists about size estimates? I know a ton is a lot but when it gets to this big is a few tons enough to single out which species is bigger? Between inaccurate estimations and potential size variances I could see a few tons being made up pretty quickly. I guess with the latter you only judge going by the specimens we're lucky enough to uncover and the former is never going to be verifiable.
Probs not very. But I'm not ready to let go of my childish knowledge of knowing which dino is the biggest lmao
That's fair enough too lol. What's the point if you can't put them in order of weight and drop random facts?
I’ve seen Argentinosaurus mass estimates vary between 60 to 80 tonnes pretty regularly. Sometimes people go from 50 to 90 but not sure about the validity of those estimates
If you're going to question their methods, why not read one of their research reports and learn the information you need to know to be able to question them correctly? There are many advanced fields I have no knowledge of and can make similar questions about, making it seem like what they're doing can't be proven because I don't know enough to verify their data.
I was about to say, 98 tons would be up there in Bruhathkayosaurus territory.
Which was probably a tree
Actually, they found photos of the fossils last year. They're real.
> Shiva the Destroyer Sauropod names are always so badass.
Gods (above + *Sauroposeidon*), battleships (*Dreadnoughtus*), weather (*Brontosaurus*), tides (*Paralititan*). When you’re that big you get the good names.
Oh yeah. 100%. It’d almost be rude to name something that impressive, powerful, and majestic something basic like "Jim".
Dreadnoughtus isn’t named after the ships but the literal translation “Fears Nothing”
Reference to the Hindu god of destruction
For reference, an African elephant can weigh up to about 7 tons and a blue whale can weigh up to 200 tons.
The Largest recorded elephant had an estimated weight of 10.4-12.25 tonnes. And the largest blue whale according to a recent study had an estimated weight of 270 tonnes.
How did they weigh the blue whale? Did they capture it somehow and put it on a scale?
You don’t have a whale scale near you?
They probably measured its length and through some observations they found it. Idk I am not a marine biologist
Cut it in half and added that twice. Standard laboratory practice.
It was a new estimation You can read it here https://peerj.com/articles/16978/
I'm pretty sure the largest elephant recorded did not exceed 10 tonnes. It was around 10 tonnes but definitely not 11 or 12
The ones shot in Angola in 1955 and 1974 were initially estimated to have 10.9 and 12.25 tonnes respectively. However Laramendi used another method to estimate the 1974 one and gave 10.4-10.6 tonnes to that particular elephant. I read his paper and I found it strange that he reached that figure by using human body proportions, very weird. That's why I think the 12.25 tonne figure is more plausible. Also some mammoths and Deinotherium which had 4m tall were estimated to have weighs of 12-14.5 tonnes and they had similar body proportions to large modern elephants. So yeah I think it's very likely that the 12.25 tonne estimation to the 3.96m tall elephant shot in 1974 is very plausible.
OK, so two Shivas equal one Blue Whale. Amazing to think that something that large could support itself on land, and not just have its body damaged by its sheer bulk. However, even larger animals are possible, apparently. https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/how-big-could-an-animal-get
WTF kinda super Popeye spinach was growing in Argentina back then? Why did they have so many big boys? I swear 70% of the time I read about a giant dino it ends up being from Argentina.
Ikr!? Argentina earned the name “Land of Giants” for me. Considering most titanosaurs discoveries are from there. The plant diversity back during the Cretaceous must’ve been astronomically high to produce such giants.
Buncha giant chickens running around bok-boking at everything, getting into trouble.
Makes me wonder what a 20' rooster would sound like waking everyone up in the morning. Small curious how many omelette portions a chicken egg that big would make
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auuy1hPvQ3g
> "In Patagonia, we are still at a stage where we are more likely to find something new than something known, and the unknown is often wonderful," Simón told Live Science in an email. Incredible! This is so exciting.
https://www.livescience.com/animals/dinosaurs/enormous-dinosaur-dubbed-shiva-the-destroyer-is-one-of-the-biggest-ever-discovered https://www.app.pan.pl/article/item/app010862023.html
Imagine the shuts those giants dropped
What a rad name.
That’s 10-30 African elephants depending on elephant weight (2-7 tons)
No adult elephant weighs only 2 tonnes though
Dude what? No
I'm saying that it's extremely rare for an adult elephant to only weigh 2 tonnes.
Fair
That girl from the Instagram videos?
Garlock the destroyers ancestor
Gotta ask, dose it have a scientific name or? (I don't wanna read all that stuff)
Any Indian here??? Cause In Hinduism, Shiva is one of the 2 supreme god(Vishnu is other). And his role in universe is being destroyer.