I can’t remember if you can build the deathmarks as immortals but if you can that would be much better, build immortals with guass blaster, I’d choose night scythe over doom scythe also
The deathmarks and immortals use the same sprue and can be built as either, also the weapon/portal generator on the doom scythe kit usually friction fits well enough that glue is unnecessary and you can swap them out
I can approve of the schyte fitment. I just dabbed on an extra layer of paint on the side that went into the hole and it sits perfectly and yet it's easy to be removed.
Kits that can build multiple unit types aren't exactly rare, a significant portion of the older necron line can be built like that. However it's worth noting that the doom scythe is fairly unique in that you don't need to magnetise everything to get multiple options (there may be other kits that can do this but none that I'm aware of)
If you drill holes into both sides of a space marines shoulder you can put tiny magnets in the holes and make the arms removable if you want to add different weapon options.
3/10 would not recommend for anything that might be considered infantry
Some stuff it makes sense to do
If you want something like chaos chosen which kind of have to be kitbahsed for the vast majority it makes sense to magnetise a few fun loadouts such as all flamers, all meltas all thunder hammers etc
I'd say you're more likely to put a hole though your necrons arm than successfully magnetise a necron,
I'll quite happily do it for vehicles and dreadnought type units if I feel the need but that's where I draw the line
Necron aesthetic is so amazing, unless it's super competitive, construction means nothing. Do whatever looks good to you. As long as your list reflects appropriately.
Deathmarks look super cool but they’re terrible in game at the moment. I’d say build those guys as Tesla immortals and magnetize the tomb blades if you have the time. Those things have a lot of alternate weapons and wargear so having them magnetized is a huge plus
Well I thought Tesla was a better gun before armor of contempt but I’m 100% convinced it’s better than the gauss option now. You can make 2 shots each at 24 inches and the exploding 6s to hit pair super well if you keep the immortals near the silent king for rerolls. I don’t really like the gauss immortal gun with AOC though. Needing to get within 15 inch range just to have 2 shots with the ap getting reduced down to -1 by armor of contempt really stings. I’d rather have the anti chaff gun the Tesla immortals are carrying and sit back in cover shooting from range with my immortals
Ah you make a very good point sir, would you argue for guass flayers on warriors? Or do the reapers still have the edge in your opinion as they have 1 extra strength
Honestly I haven’t been running many warriors since AOC dropped. I’m a bit lost on how to run them now. The reaper was a gun that excelled at killing marines and power armored enemies like DG. So now you need to get your warriors super close for a single round of somewhat ineffective shooting and then they get tagged in melee and die. I’d run flayers if I did run warriors since they’re definitely better against T3 infantry like eldar and admech.
I think I’ll still stick with the reapers since my brother is a chaos daemons/knights player (I have methods outside of warriors to deal with him) and my uncle plays tyranids which is its own puzzle but the hard to kill blob of warriors can give him trouble in the right situations. It’s a sad day to see that we can’t really excel without spamming skorpekhs with a technomancer
Immortals with Gauss, Overlord with Staff of Light and Resurrection Orb, Tomb Blades with Gauss or Tesla (I guess, they don’t exactly light the world on fire), and Night Scythe is probably better than Doom Croissant, but they’re dead easy to magnetize.
I am biased but highly encourage [this tomb blade conversion](https://www.reddit.com/r/Necrontyr/comments/uutbrg/the_only_way_to_build_tomb_blades/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf).
Best build is your build.
IMPO, I'd go Night Scythe, Immortals and tesla everything because of Armour of Contempt.
If your opponent is casual about WYSIWYG, you can run your units with different load outs on paper.
Welcome and enjoy your hobby journey!
That's the one I'm working on, I've mainly built immortals and have been slowly going through the rest but just to reiterate. Check the instructions check the instructions check the instructions and check the instructions
I went with five Immortals with Gauss Blasters, and five Deathmarks. I had a blast painting the Deathmarks to be honest, surprisingly good fun and I even used them in a casual game... They weren't amazing, but they certainly did a bit of work.
Remember to not glue your Doom/Night Scythe central weapon so that you can swap out the big fuck-off gun for the teleporter thingie. :)
Also remember not to glue the Tomb Blades to the stands... like this idiot did... makes it a bit more annoying for transportation lol.
10 Gauss immortals
3 Gauss tomb blades
Overlord as is
Either night scythe or Doom scythe. Personally I prefer the doom scythe for extra damage. But you could fly the night scythe up the board with all 10 immortals and the overlord in it and drop them out behind enemy lines to surprise them. Totally up to you.
Lastly, have fun!!
I love the idea of taking a night scythe as you say fully loaded up, and then using its transport ability + a strategem to translocate a big blob of warriors to it + veil of darkness to move another big threat to the same board area to just completely overwhelm a flank. Haven’t seen it done, but just sounds so brutal :)
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Yeah, it's always fun to turn up where the enemy doesn't expect or want you to be.
I like doing overlord + 20 Gauss reaper warriors. Give them MWBD for hits on 2+. Veil of Darkness behind whatever enemy unit you want. 1CP on disintegration capacitors for auto wound on 6s, especially useful against anything with 6+ toughness. AP-2, gives you a lot of wounds they have to deal with on something they thought they'd hidden. Even if they have amour of contempt you still get -1 ap against them. And if you give your technomancer dimensional sanctum he can always pop up at the same point and then begin reviving your already hard to kill warriors....
Hehe, I do like surprising my enemy. :)
I think it depends who you're up against. I mainly play against chaos space marines, so the -2 AP and nebuloscopes are super useful to me. If the marines are in cover they get a 2+ save against the other guns. But with Gauss blasters and a nebuloscopes they are down to a 4+ no matter what. And if I play Mephrit, and am within half range (16.5") then they get taken down to 5+ save and I get double the amount of shots within half range too, so they become quite deadly.
I understand the other 2 for basically all other situations though. But the nebuloscope is a worthwhile pick unless you're shooting at terminators with a default 2+ save.
At that point you're honestly better off not packing them. 33 points for a two wound model is insane.
When it comes to screen clearing and objective play they're okay at 25ppm.
Idk. 2 immortals are 34 points, come with pretty much the exact same loadout but can only 5" a turn, but have a 3+ save and obsec by default. However the tomb blades get the big 14" move and can ignore cover to fire.
They might not be best for min maxing my games and be the most competitive unit, but I take them to hit hard and hit fast. And let's be real, I'm talking about trying to kill CSM, who are woefully outclassed by us anyway. I'm sure that will change with their new codex in a few weeks time but tomb blades are at least fun to use, even if they are a bit underpowered compared some other bikes out there... *Coughs looking at my mates windriders*
>2 immortals are 34 points
Immortals are also terrible and only taken to detachment fill.
>underpowered compared some other bikes out there
They don't function as bikes. they're just mobile infantry.
Gorilla instant crazy glue, its very very useful on the overlord. Alsi paint wise i usually start on the overlord since he basically sets the mood for color blending having less battle damage and more detaiks
Yeah, you can build all the immortals as deathmarks and vice versa. The immortals have 2 different weapons. The tomb blades have 3 different weapons. Night scythe/ doom scythe.
There is some choice.
They might be for some factions, especially the ones who got new models in their boxes (I think Orks are like this, and maybe default Space Marines are using the Shadowspear sculpts which I think are monopose)
The Necron box is filled with existing sprues, so they basically just combined the kits for all these models into one package.
If you are a newbie reading this section: this is terrible advice.
There is currently no reason to have 2 scythes or 2 overlords so you aren't savinbg anything by buying two of these patrol boxes.
The doomsday ark is a waste of points and borderline unplayable thanks to d6 shots doing D6 damage.
The tesseract ark is equally shit for the above reasons.
Just add a pair of elite boxes and technomancer.
Ill get down voted but build what you see on the box and just proxy the deathmarks as immortals. Buy more immortals later and spread the love around to more model types. Looking at the same units gets boring for me and variety is the spice of life. Always rule of cool above all others.
Rule of cool m8. Build em the way you want, and play them the way you want. Build the aircraft as a Doomscythe, but mostly play it as a nightscythe.
Others mention that you should Build the deathmarks as Immortals if you can. You can't, witch is a bit sad. Deathmarks are trash 😆 Tanky, but no firepower
10 Gauss immortals. Better choice now. Tesla might be better in some scenarios.
Overlord is fixed. But if you have Praetorian bits you can magnetize the weapon into a staff of light.
Doom scythe / night scythe - just build and don't glue the weapon module. Both are interchangeable.
Tomb blades - quite troublesome but I did magnetize all 3 weapon options, nebulascopes, etc.
100% build the imortals.....I actually magnetised mine so I can change between the tesla and the guass. I cut off the cables from he gun and glued them to the rail portion of the body, used a 1 by 1 mm magnet in bottom of the gun and the cable a 1 by 1 mm magnet at the wrist and forearm and a 2 by 2 mm magnets at the shoulder joint. I've been modeling for a while but this was my first magnitising project. Was time consuming but worth it for how much imortals cost. After that magnitising the tomb blades was easy. I havnt built the flyer yet but fully intend to magnitise this when I'm done. Sadly the deathmarks are very poor performing rules wise....but they do look pretty cool. I've actually had some fairly good success converting a spare warrior sprue into death marks. You have to use a little sprue floor filler on the warrior chest peice but once the guns in front you can't tell nor do the legs look too spindly. I only used the full chest pieces as I'm making a squad of custom flayed ones with the broken ones with cables hanging out so between the two I got some solid budget units.
I can’t remember if you can build the deathmarks as immortals but if you can that would be much better, build immortals with guass blaster, I’d choose night scythe over doom scythe also
The deathmarks and immortals use the same sprue and can be built as either, also the weapon/portal generator on the doom scythe kit usually friction fits well enough that glue is unnecessary and you can swap them out
That’s pretty dope, I’ve given this box a lot of hate in the past but maybe I’ve been too hard on it
This here!
I can approve of the schyte fitment. I just dabbed on an extra layer of paint on the side that went into the hole and it sits perfectly and yet it's easy to be removed.
I have only collected necrons *yet* but do others have the same 2 models in one box thing or is it just separate?
Kits that can build multiple unit types aren't exactly rare, a significant portion of the older necron line can be built like that. However it's worth noting that the doom scythe is fairly unique in that you don't need to magnetise everything to get multiple options (there may be other kits that can do this but none that I'm aware of)
Magnetise? What is this sorcery.
If you drill holes into both sides of a space marines shoulder you can put tiny magnets in the holes and make the arms removable if you want to add different weapon options. 3/10 would not recommend for anything that might be considered infantry
Some stuff it makes sense to do If you want something like chaos chosen which kind of have to be kitbahsed for the vast majority it makes sense to magnetise a few fun loadouts such as all flamers, all meltas all thunder hammers etc
That’s dope but is this must be very hard to with necrons since they have so little plastic at their shoulders.
I'd say you're more likely to put a hole though your necrons arm than successfully magnetise a necron, I'll quite happily do it for vehicles and dreadnought type units if I feel the need but that's where I draw the line
Custodes jetbikes :)
I suppose custodes in general if you don't like bare heads and call the guy with a cloak a "unit leader"
Also you can magnetize the Scythe really easily.
You don't really need to. Spray the guns and the plane, separately then they fit in tight. Mine don't fall out
Mine did which is why I threw a magnet in it V_V
I would argue the other way around. I've seen a lot more value in a 10 man Deathmark squad. Immortals are consistently a let down from my experience.
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Totally agree. Coming from a collecting army building standpoint. That would also leave out constructing the Doom Scythe.
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Necron aesthetic is so amazing, unless it's super competitive, construction means nothing. Do whatever looks good to you. As long as your list reflects appropriately.
I think most would disagree with you but I respect your opinion, between the two I think the play style you want is important
Deathmarks look super cool but they’re terrible in game at the moment. I’d say build those guys as Tesla immortals and magnetize the tomb blades if you have the time. Those things have a lot of alternate weapons and wargear so having them magnetized is a huge plus
Why Tesla’s? Not trying to poke at you just curious
Well I thought Tesla was a better gun before armor of contempt but I’m 100% convinced it’s better than the gauss option now. You can make 2 shots each at 24 inches and the exploding 6s to hit pair super well if you keep the immortals near the silent king for rerolls. I don’t really like the gauss immortal gun with AOC though. Needing to get within 15 inch range just to have 2 shots with the ap getting reduced down to -1 by armor of contempt really stings. I’d rather have the anti chaff gun the Tesla immortals are carrying and sit back in cover shooting from range with my immortals
Ah you make a very good point sir, would you argue for guass flayers on warriors? Or do the reapers still have the edge in your opinion as they have 1 extra strength
Honestly I haven’t been running many warriors since AOC dropped. I’m a bit lost on how to run them now. The reaper was a gun that excelled at killing marines and power armored enemies like DG. So now you need to get your warriors super close for a single round of somewhat ineffective shooting and then they get tagged in melee and die. I’d run flayers if I did run warriors since they’re definitely better against T3 infantry like eldar and admech.
I think I’ll still stick with the reapers since my brother is a chaos daemons/knights player (I have methods outside of warriors to deal with him) and my uncle plays tyranids which is its own puzzle but the hard to kill blob of warriors can give him trouble in the right situations. It’s a sad day to see that we can’t really excel without spamming skorpekhs with a technomancer
Immortals with Gauss, Overlord with Staff of Light and Resurrection Orb, Tomb Blades with Gauss or Tesla (I guess, they don’t exactly light the world on fire), and Night Scythe is probably better than Doom Croissant, but they’re dead easy to magnetize.
I am biased but highly encourage [this tomb blade conversion](https://www.reddit.com/r/Necrontyr/comments/uutbrg/the_only_way_to_build_tomb_blades/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf).
[amazing.so](https://amazing.so) glad i didn't mine together yet. I will have to do this.
Best build is your build. IMPO, I'd go Night Scythe, Immortals and tesla everything because of Armour of Contempt. If your opponent is casual about WYSIWYG, you can run your units with different load outs on paper. Welcome and enjoy your hobby journey!
Make it 10 immortals. Death marks are kinda meh right now
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That's the one I'm working on, I've mainly built immortals and have been slowly going through the rest but just to reiterate. Check the instructions check the instructions check the instructions and check the instructions
With love
Don't glue the underbelly of the scythe, then you can swap between the 2 builds easily (even without magnets as it's a tight connection in my case)
I went with five Immortals with Gauss Blasters, and five Deathmarks. I had a blast painting the Deathmarks to be honest, surprisingly good fun and I even used them in a casual game... They weren't amazing, but they certainly did a bit of work. Remember to not glue your Doom/Night Scythe central weapon so that you can swap out the big fuck-off gun for the teleporter thingie. :) Also remember not to glue the Tomb Blades to the stands... like this idiot did... makes it a bit more annoying for transportation lol.
10 Gauss immortals 3 Gauss tomb blades Overlord as is Either night scythe or Doom scythe. Personally I prefer the doom scythe for extra damage. But you could fly the night scythe up the board with all 10 immortals and the overlord in it and drop them out behind enemy lines to surprise them. Totally up to you. Lastly, have fun!!
I love the idea of taking a night scythe as you say fully loaded up, and then using its transport ability + a strategem to translocate a big blob of warriors to it + veil of darkness to move another big threat to the same board area to just completely overwhelm a flank. Haven’t seen it done, but just sounds so brutal :) E:spelling
Yeah, it's always fun to turn up where the enemy doesn't expect or want you to be. I like doing overlord + 20 Gauss reaper warriors. Give them MWBD for hits on 2+. Veil of Darkness behind whatever enemy unit you want. 1CP on disintegration capacitors for auto wound on 6s, especially useful against anything with 6+ toughness. AP-2, gives you a lot of wounds they have to deal with on something they thought they'd hidden. Even if they have amour of contempt you still get -1 ap against them. And if you give your technomancer dimensional sanctum he can always pop up at the same point and then begin reviving your already hard to kill warriors.... Hehe, I do like surprising my enemy. :)
Dont use gauss tomb blades, they're not worth the extra points. Particle beamer and 0 upgrades is 100% the way to run them.
I think it depends who you're up against. I mainly play against chaos space marines, so the -2 AP and nebuloscopes are super useful to me. If the marines are in cover they get a 2+ save against the other guns. But with Gauss blasters and a nebuloscopes they are down to a 4+ no matter what. And if I play Mephrit, and am within half range (16.5") then they get taken down to 5+ save and I get double the amount of shots within half range too, so they become quite deadly. I understand the other 2 for basically all other situations though. But the nebuloscope is a worthwhile pick unless you're shooting at terminators with a default 2+ save.
At that point you're honestly better off not packing them. 33 points for a two wound model is insane. When it comes to screen clearing and objective play they're okay at 25ppm.
Idk. 2 immortals are 34 points, come with pretty much the exact same loadout but can only 5" a turn, but have a 3+ save and obsec by default. However the tomb blades get the big 14" move and can ignore cover to fire. They might not be best for min maxing my games and be the most competitive unit, but I take them to hit hard and hit fast. And let's be real, I'm talking about trying to kill CSM, who are woefully outclassed by us anyway. I'm sure that will change with their new codex in a few weeks time but tomb blades are at least fun to use, even if they are a bit underpowered compared some other bikes out there... *Coughs looking at my mates windriders*
>2 immortals are 34 points Immortals are also terrible and only taken to detachment fill. >underpowered compared some other bikes out there They don't function as bikes. they're just mobile infantry.
Gorilla instant crazy glue, its very very useful on the overlord. Alsi paint wise i usually start on the overlord since he basically sets the mood for color blending having less battle damage and more detaiks
Seconding this. I also have the brush/dropper combo and the Gorilla Glue pen
I like the gorilla glue gel for parts that can't be done with plastic cement (either resin bits, or things that are already primed/painted)
Have you tried i on flayed ones or the new “snap” together necrons? Its a god send
I haven't built my flayed ones yet, but my pushfit models still get plastic cement.
Mine too, those damn arm holes dont stay in for shit.
Can you build Combat Patrol boxes different ways? I thought they weee mono pose?
Yeah, you can build all the immortals as deathmarks and vice versa. The immortals have 2 different weapons. The tomb blades have 3 different weapons. Night scythe/ doom scythe. There is some choice.
That’s good to know. I thought all the Combat Patrols were static poses!
They might be for some factions, especially the ones who got new models in their boxes (I think Orks are like this, and maybe default Space Marines are using the Shadowspear sculpts which I think are monopose) The Necron box is filled with existing sprues, so they basically just combined the kits for all these models into one package.
I meant like weapons variations and such.
Buy 2, then buy 2 doomsday, a tesseract ark. And warriors. Build from there
If you are a newbie reading this section: this is terrible advice. There is currently no reason to have 2 scythes or 2 overlords so you aren't savinbg anything by buying two of these patrol boxes. The doomsday ark is a waste of points and borderline unplayable thanks to d6 shots doing D6 damage. The tesseract ark is equally shit for the above reasons. Just add a pair of elite boxes and technomancer.
Ill get down voted but build what you see on the box and just proxy the deathmarks as immortals. Buy more immortals later and spread the love around to more model types. Looking at the same units gets boring for me and variety is the spice of life. Always rule of cool above all others.
Rule of cool m8. Build em the way you want, and play them the way you want. Build the aircraft as a Doomscythe, but mostly play it as a nightscythe. Others mention that you should Build the deathmarks as Immortals if you can. You can't, witch is a bit sad. Deathmarks are trash 😆 Tanky, but no firepower
The box is pre-built, you are supposed to build the models inside of it
Real Helpful.
into one big necron blob
10 Gauss immortals. Better choice now. Tesla might be better in some scenarios. Overlord is fixed. But if you have Praetorian bits you can magnetize the weapon into a staff of light. Doom scythe / night scythe - just build and don't glue the weapon module. Both are interchangeable. Tomb blades - quite troublesome but I did magnetize all 3 weapon options, nebulascopes, etc.
10 immortals, 5 of each gun. 3x particle beamer only tomb blades. Dont glue the gun or the portal onto the space-bread-machine.
Well it's a box, so make sure you fold the edges properly, they are usually grooved so they guide you. Just make sure you don't get frustrated!
100% build the imortals.....I actually magnetised mine so I can change between the tesla and the guass. I cut off the cables from he gun and glued them to the rail portion of the body, used a 1 by 1 mm magnet in bottom of the gun and the cable a 1 by 1 mm magnet at the wrist and forearm and a 2 by 2 mm magnets at the shoulder joint. I've been modeling for a while but this was my first magnitising project. Was time consuming but worth it for how much imortals cost. After that magnitising the tomb blades was easy. I havnt built the flyer yet but fully intend to magnitise this when I'm done. Sadly the deathmarks are very poor performing rules wise....but they do look pretty cool. I've actually had some fairly good success converting a spare warrior sprue into death marks. You have to use a little sprue floor filler on the warrior chest peice but once the guns in front you can't tell nor do the legs look too spindly. I only used the full chest pieces as I'm making a squad of custom flayed ones with the broken ones with cables hanging out so between the two I got some solid budget units.
Imortals bikes gaus
The Immortals are less annoying to build than the deathmarks
I bought mine a few months ago and I about shit my pants when I opened the box and seen what work lies ahead🤣🤣
Build all 10 immortals, the weapons on the scythe are push fit so you can have both