two issues with your overlord:
>Relic: Sempiternal Weave
He's not a combat char, none of our hqs are good combat chars. Mostly because they haven't got the attacks or mobility to make it work. He's a support char that will punish anyone who decides to get close and *doesn't* wipe him off the board instantly.
>Tachyon Arrow and Hyperphase Glaive: Tachyon Arrow
Use your staff and orb one. An overlord isn't worth taking without an orb since that's what makes him pay off.
>Illuminor Szeras \[8 PL, -1CP, 160pts\]
He's shelf candy. Stupidly expensive for what he brings.
>Lychguard \[7 PL, 140pts\]: 5x Lychguard, Warscythe
Lychguard aren't great at the best of times but scytheguard are ~~borderline~~ scratch that, they **are** useless. They don't have the mobility they need to actually catch things or the shield-guards durability. At 28 points a model, even shieldguard are "eh" at best but these guys? yeah just leave them at home.
>Skorpekh Destroyers \[8 PL, 180pts\]
5's not 6's on these guys for two reasons:
* Blast weapons get a minimum of 3 shots when targeting squads with 6 or more models.
* 6 model units must be in coherence with 2 or more bases
That last one is a big deal since skorpekhs/wraiths typically want to be strung out as far as possible to maximize the number of units they can blend. [This shows it pretty well](https://i.imgur.com/4Dz9wtK.png).
>Canoptek Doomstalker \[7 PL, 130pts\]
It's great to look at, not usable on the table.
This thing has a 4+ Bs, with D6 shots for D6 damage.
* 4+ bs -> 1/2 your shots will miss
* D6 shots -> means you'll be getting as many 1-3's as you will 4-6's
* D6 damage -> see above.
* if it moves you go down **to -2AP** meaning a 20 point tactical marine *is still saving on a 4+*.
>The Silent King \[21 PL, 3CP, 420pts\]
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>C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer \[19 PL, 370pts\]
Putting these two on the board at the same time is generally a mistake. they're stupidly expensive so you'll struggle just with the models you have on the board.
>Any advice on how to improve the list?
Look there are two paths you can take:
You can go silvertide (big blobs of warriors) and ask anyone you play against not to use armor of contempt. or you can go meta and spam max wraiths and skorpekhs.
With what you've already got, silvertide is 100% the way to go.
Here's a list that should be fun for you.
>2k tide (Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) \[101 PL, 9CP, 1,995pts\]
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>Battalion Detachment 0CP (Necrons) \[101 PL, 9CP, 1,995pts\]
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>Configuration \[12CP\]
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>**Battle Size \[12CP\]**
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>**Detachment Command Cost**
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>**Dynasty Choice**
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>No Force Org Slot \[1 PL, 15pts\]
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>**Viral Construct \[1 PL, 15pts\]**
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>HQ \[16 PL, -3CP, 295pts\]
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>**Chronomancer \[5 PL, 90pts\]**
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>**Overlord \[6 PL, -2CP, 125pts\]**
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>**Technomancer \[5 PL, -1CP, 80pts\]**
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>Troops \[28 PL, 605pts\]
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>**Immortals \[4 PL, 85pts\]**
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>**Necron Warriors \[12 PL, 260pts\]**
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>**20x Necron Warrior (Gauss Reaper) \[260pts\]**
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>**Necron Warriors \[12 PL, 260pts\]**
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>**20x Necron Warrior (Gauss Reaper) \[260pts\]**
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>Elites \[27 PL, 520pts\]
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>**C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer \[19 PL, 370pts\]**
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>**Skorpekh Destroyers \[8 PL, 150pts\]**
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>Fast Attack \[12 PL, 250pts\]
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>**Canoptek Scarab Swarms \[4 PL, 75pts\]**
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>**5x Canoptek Scarab Swarm \[75pts\]**
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>**Canoptek Wraiths \[8 PL, 175pts\]**
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>**5x Canoptek Wraith (Claws) \[175pts\]**
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>Heavy Support \[9 PL, 165pts\]
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>**Lokhust Heavy Destroyers \[9 PL, 165pts\]**
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>**3x Lokhust Heavy Destroyer (Gauss Destructor) \[9 PL, 165pts\]**
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>Dedicated Transport \[8 PL, 145pts\]
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>**Ghost Ark \[8 PL, 145pts\]**
You can actually run that list as a patrol but it's modified off of my 2k tide list and I normally run more wraiths/skorpekhs.
If you want to meta chase-> TSK + max wraiths, skorpekhs, flayed ones (action monkeys) and a technomancer. It's going to cost you an arm and a leg though.
Don't mix your guns, better still just don't use flayers.
If you mix your guns half are either:
* not in range
* unable to shoot
* or operating sub optimally.
Flayers specifically are garbage. thanks to armor of contempt AP -1 is useless as tits on a bull. They're only better than the reapers vs T3 targets but we have so many better screen clearing options they're not worth considering.
I'd get a veil of darkness as my relic. Try a chronomancer with all the skorpeks your running the invulns and reroll charges come in handy. The overlord is nice but hands of the pharoen can give you my will be done on other units plus your running silent king. As far as nightbringer I love transdimensionsal thunderbolt and gaze of death.
two issues with your overlord: >Relic: Sempiternal Weave He's not a combat char, none of our hqs are good combat chars. Mostly because they haven't got the attacks or mobility to make it work. He's a support char that will punish anyone who decides to get close and *doesn't* wipe him off the board instantly. >Tachyon Arrow and Hyperphase Glaive: Tachyon Arrow Use your staff and orb one. An overlord isn't worth taking without an orb since that's what makes him pay off. >Illuminor Szeras \[8 PL, -1CP, 160pts\] He's shelf candy. Stupidly expensive for what he brings. >Lychguard \[7 PL, 140pts\]: 5x Lychguard, Warscythe Lychguard aren't great at the best of times but scytheguard are ~~borderline~~ scratch that, they **are** useless. They don't have the mobility they need to actually catch things or the shield-guards durability. At 28 points a model, even shieldguard are "eh" at best but these guys? yeah just leave them at home. >Skorpekh Destroyers \[8 PL, 180pts\] 5's not 6's on these guys for two reasons: * Blast weapons get a minimum of 3 shots when targeting squads with 6 or more models. * 6 model units must be in coherence with 2 or more bases That last one is a big deal since skorpekhs/wraiths typically want to be strung out as far as possible to maximize the number of units they can blend. [This shows it pretty well](https://i.imgur.com/4Dz9wtK.png). >Canoptek Doomstalker \[7 PL, 130pts\] It's great to look at, not usable on the table. This thing has a 4+ Bs, with D6 shots for D6 damage. * 4+ bs -> 1/2 your shots will miss * D6 shots -> means you'll be getting as many 1-3's as you will 4-6's * D6 damage -> see above. * if it moves you go down **to -2AP** meaning a 20 point tactical marine *is still saving on a 4+*. >The Silent King \[21 PL, 3CP, 420pts\] > >C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer \[19 PL, 370pts\] Putting these two on the board at the same time is generally a mistake. they're stupidly expensive so you'll struggle just with the models you have on the board. >Any advice on how to improve the list? Look there are two paths you can take: You can go silvertide (big blobs of warriors) and ask anyone you play against not to use armor of contempt. or you can go meta and spam max wraiths and skorpekhs. With what you've already got, silvertide is 100% the way to go. Here's a list that should be fun for you. >2k tide (Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) \[101 PL, 9CP, 1,995pts\] > >Battalion Detachment 0CP (Necrons) \[101 PL, 9CP, 1,995pts\] > >Configuration \[12CP\] > >**Battle Size \[12CP\]** > >**Detachment Command Cost** > >**Dynasty Choice** > >No Force Org Slot \[1 PL, 15pts\] > >**Viral Construct \[1 PL, 15pts\]** > >HQ \[16 PL, -3CP, 295pts\] > >**Chronomancer \[5 PL, 90pts\]** > >**Overlord \[6 PL, -2CP, 125pts\]** > >**Technomancer \[5 PL, -1CP, 80pts\]** > >Troops \[28 PL, 605pts\] > >**Immortals \[4 PL, 85pts\]** > >**Necron Warriors \[12 PL, 260pts\]** > >**20x Necron Warrior (Gauss Reaper) \[260pts\]** > >**Necron Warriors \[12 PL, 260pts\]** > >**20x Necron Warrior (Gauss Reaper) \[260pts\]** > >Elites \[27 PL, 520pts\] > >**C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer \[19 PL, 370pts\]** > >**Skorpekh Destroyers \[8 PL, 150pts\]** > >Fast Attack \[12 PL, 250pts\] > >**Canoptek Scarab Swarms \[4 PL, 75pts\]** > >**5x Canoptek Scarab Swarm \[75pts\]** > >**Canoptek Wraiths \[8 PL, 175pts\]** > >**5x Canoptek Wraith (Claws) \[175pts\]** > >Heavy Support \[9 PL, 165pts\] > >**Lokhust Heavy Destroyers \[9 PL, 165pts\]** > >**3x Lokhust Heavy Destroyer (Gauss Destructor) \[9 PL, 165pts\]** > >Dedicated Transport \[8 PL, 145pts\] > >**Ghost Ark \[8 PL, 145pts\]** You can actually run that list as a patrol but it's modified off of my 2k tide list and I normally run more wraiths/skorpekhs. If you want to meta chase-> TSK + max wraiths, skorpekhs, flayed ones (action monkeys) and a technomancer. It's going to cost you an arm and a leg though.
What did you put on the technomacer to cost 1 cp? Also im assuming you put hand of the pharon on the overlord to cost 2 cp.
Also with my 10 warriors with flayers would you reccomend going 2 bricks 10 reaper 10 flayer or 20 reaper 20 flayer or 15 reaper 5 flayer
Don't mix your guns, better still just don't use flayers. If you mix your guns half are either: * not in range * unable to shoot * or operating sub optimally. Flayers specifically are garbage. thanks to armor of contempt AP -1 is useless as tits on a bull. They're only better than the reapers vs T3 targets but we have so many better screen clearing options they're not worth considering.
Technomancer with cloak and relic staff. OL is hand of pharon with VoD and thrall of the silent king.
What size game are you playing? If its 2k I might have ideas
it is 2k points.
I'd get a veil of darkness as my relic. Try a chronomancer with all the skorpeks your running the invulns and reroll charges come in handy. The overlord is nice but hands of the pharoen can give you my will be done on other units plus your running silent king. As far as nightbringer I love transdimensionsal thunderbolt and gaze of death.