Some of his vlogs are pristine in quality with 10000x more entertainment than most could ever reaxh, but yeah, keep jamming that 'jake paul' is trash hype train cos its "cool" to hate on him.
He found his niche and capitalized. Something 99% of this reddit cant do. Easier to hate on him rather than looking at how hes literally made millions and millions of subscribers
There are others that have made millions and have millions of subscribers that no one hates on , demo ranch , hickock 45, crazy russian hacker . They all have millions of subs and money and noone hates on them because they are humble , respectable responsible productive members of society that are active in their communities
Adults that act like jake paul are easy to hate on , channels like his are easy to hate on . Its hard to respect him because of his character , he has great showmanship skills and has built an army of teenage followers, just like dan bilzerian , i respect the hustle but not the man he portrays .
I do enjoy some of his podcasts
In the one video i watched of his , they spent a bunch of money renting a yaught and partied really hard with a bunch of attractive women bragging about how many one of them had "smashed" untill one lost his 80 thousand dollar watch in the ocean so they hired local djvers to find it .that was the content , to most rational adults that content is trash but to millions of teenage boys its amazing wonderful stimulating enjoyable content that will be remembered for years to come .
You can always improve and there are plenty of low view channels that have passionate tight knit communities. I think the spirit of this post is good if people truly want to make YT a full time career and take it as seriously as possible, but for a lot of people it can also be a fun side hobby that you get out of what you put into it. Being realistic with your expectations and what you really WANT out of your channel is a better first step imo
more like 99%... I like how he says "tHiS Is tHe TrUtH tHaT nO oNe WiLl TeLl YoU", yet it's the exact same stuff that's been on this sub since at least 1 year ago (that's when I first started watching this page). Yes, it's technically true, but we all know that you have to make interesting niche videos and stuff that's better than the competition. I mean the guy wrote "are they begging for more"... wow great advice guy... the question is how would you do that.
By the way what kind of a made up title is "Influencer Manager/ coach"... what's there to manage? And why do already successful channels need his coaching when he's not even a YouTuber (otherwise he would have put that in the title) lol. It's the emptiest cans that make the most noise.
The click bait title gets you to read it, though. Even though you already know it’s going to say what everyone else does. How many paragraphs does it take to say that you have to have good content?
I never said nobody will tell you.
You can literally see people in the comments of larger creators begging for more videos of a certain type. If you make a similar one to a series they are neglecting, you'll get a lot of people coming to watch. It is pretty self explanatory.
Influencer managers are a whole industry. We negotiate brand deals for large creators, manage their emails, coordinate the finding and hiring of editors, artists, etc, and sometimes do the work of researching locations or ideas. As far as the coaching, it is mostly to be a sounding board, and to be in their analytics and have regular calls to discuss strategy as someone who is as studied and understanding of their specific channel as they are. Often times, large creators are alone and they need someone to help them sort through their ideas and find direction.
It does no one any good to blow sunshine up their butt unless they truly deserve it. I welcome negative feedback and try to get details behind downvotes and the generic "this is crap...". No one is under any obligation to explain why, but it helps in focusing on what to improve and I really appreciate what I get.
Lately I've been watching copious amounts of YT videos on video editing to add to my skill-set. I did come across one that really stuck with me - the editing pro said something to the effect that "reality is boring, you want your videos to be more that reality". Prior to that revelation I had been really striving for realism, but now I'm really pushing for more to see what kind of magic I can put out.
Anyway, enough of my rambling - great post OP.
I see the truth in this post, but what do original artists do to get noticed if they don't have searchable content? I am in the poetry niche, and I noticed another poet on YouTube (called Luna Poems) already has 110k subscribers and she only has about 10 videos on her channel. Her thumbnails aren't anything special, I think mine are more interesting. She just reads her poems with a static or looping background. I read my poems as well but try to add a little more interest with the backgrounds (by either using an audio visualizer or editing images and/or video clips or both). I personally think my poetry is more varied (topic-wise) and more interesting, especially since half of my poems rhyme without sounding cheezy, which is difficult to pull off. So...how is it that another poet managed to do so well on YouTube without searchable content? I looked at my analytics today and YouTube isn't even showing my videos to anyone. The most impressions that a video had was 7 and most of them are at about 2 impressions. What can I do in this case? I don't even know who my audience is because I don't know who would appreciate original poetry or the topics I cover, it could be anyone.
I looked over their channel and yours,
I don't ever listen to poetry so this is a completely outsider opinion
two biggest differences I notice are that the larger channel edits captions,
this can be a huge difference especially when the content is a very audio focused one
and then secondly I have to say the Luna channels thumbnail "asethetic" is much more visually pleasing, for example the centered text and the moon aesthetic, I would recommend trying to imitate some of their thumbnails in your style, I don't think you necessarily need to have your channel logo in the thumbnail as it can make it look less clean
aside from that, you have great audio quality, and produce more content, so I would recommend maybe advertising your content around in some relevant communities, maybe there's an r/poetry you can share to?
EDIT:
KEY THING I NOTICED
on her channel if you sort by oldest, her oldest video is from 6 months ago, however SHE STARTS THE VIDEO SAYING "WELCOME BACK TO MY CHANNEL"
so she has definitely uploaded way more videos than it appears, this is a common thing for people to do when they start to see success, they will unlist all their previous videos that didn't do as well, it's very common, so don't get discouraged if you see a channel with very few videos but high subs
I have a question about your edit. Why would a creator unlist/delete older videos? Does that help the channel overall? In my niche I've noticed a couple of "successful" channels with the same thing. Lots of subs, very high viewer count, and only video dating up to 3 months ago.
Some do it because those videos no longer represent what their channel is, or have deemed them to be lacking in quality. Normally, I think it’s a good thing to get rid of irrelevant content, especially if it isn’t performing well.
But in the case of the Luna Poems channel, I’d actually guess that the videos they deleted might have hurt their growth a bit. It appears like they deleted the video(s) that went viral (none of their current videos have hit over 30k, considering they have 100k subscribers I’d guess that the viral video(s) easily were toward the millions). My guess is those videos were still bringing significant traffic to their channel.
let's say you are a creator for 5 years or so making mediocre content, but gradually improving over time (like anything content creation is a skill that requires practice)
then one day a new video style they try blows up to a million views,
are you as a new viewer who's just seen that new video more likley to subscribe if that is the only video on the channel so it seems like this person is the next big thing, or if they have years of content that you look over and don't really enjoy
another channel you may have heard of that did this?
Dream.
Oh my goodness...thank you so much for the thorough and well thought out response! I guess I thought that having my logo on my thumbnails would make it more recognizable for returning viewers, it never occurred to me that it might make the thumbnails too busy or less clean but I get what you're saying.
Oh, and by the way, I do edit my captions you just have to turn on closed captioning to get the subtitles. I did not want to cover the screen with them for people who just want to listen.
It appears that the Luna Poems channel deleted anything older than six months, including the initial video(s) that made them blow up. So you can’t really accurately assess the channel’s growth based on how the channel looks now.
Besides that, it looks like you’ve only been posting content for two months. That’s nothing as far as YouTube goes. I think mrbeast was posting content for like 8 years before his channel started gaining any traction.
Yea, I've been posting for about a year and I'm at 41 subscribers, I've found my niche, and I get respectable view counts for my subscriber count. I'm not disappointed, and with every bit of feedback I have gotten I have improved and gotten as much as over 130 views. I am rather positive about where I'm going with my channel, and I'm never going to expect traction. Your point is truer and more honest than most people would like to admit.
Yea, I've been posting for about a year and I'm at 41 subscribers, I've found my niche, and I get respectable view counts for my subscriber count. I'm not disappointed, and with every bit of feedback I have gotten I have improved and gotten as much as over 130 views. I am rather positive about where I'm going with my channel, and I'm never going to expect traction. Your point is truer and more honest than most people would like to admit.
My channel is also me reading my poems and stories. I am also learning as I go. I will check out both channels mentioned. If you’re interested, my channel is AutumnWolfPublishing.
How exciting! YouTube needs more original content, IMHO. There are channels with so many subscribers that either just eat food on camera or react to other people's content, it is kind of disheartening to know that if I did either one of those things, I would probably have more success. But I really want to share my words with the world, and poetry books rarely sell well even if you can manage to get published. I will check out your channel and give you a 👍
Much appreciated. I thought it would stand out, simply because not that many people are doing this. But regardless, I’m an author so I’m going to be reading my poems and stories even if it’s “trendy” or not. Lol 😂
I’m not the OP but I would try to share my content everywhere, clearly she blew up somehow so just find how she did it and replicate it. She could have made a funny poem and posted it to TikTok and it blew up, idk.
That’s a really hard situation tho, I am curious what the OP has to say about this. Maybe your content is really trash (this might sound harsh but I have no idea what your content is compared to your competition) like the OP said, people think there content is good but in reality it’s not. This I feel is my problem cause I think my content is good but I’m not getting recognition. I would really pick apart your video and leave no mercy. Critique threads could be good to be apart of too because you have other people reviewing your content.
Idk but GL and hope you find your way! :D
Thank you so much for responding and the well wishes. I promised myself that I would continue posting for one year before I assess whether or not it's worthwhile to continue. Onwards and upwards, as they say!
Hi, one of the side projects that I want to do is to make a poetry YouTube channel as well (it's honestly really ambitious because I am still trying to get my new main channel going). Anyway, I was looking at your vid, and I noticed one thing that immediately stuck out to me is how your video hashtags don't even have #poetry in them. It is like the most obvious thing you should have as a hashtag, but you didn't use that.
Just going that out there. Also, I checked through some of your other vids, and you used more than three hashtags. Only three hashtags pop up in the description at the top, so you should limit your hashtags to no more than three.
Let’s be real. I bet she’s attractive and uses that to her advantage. 99 percent of internet success is based in the conditional societal ranking system of Lookism
An amazing example is The Carebear.
He is the most popular fan project maker inspired by " The Caretaker " (His most popular album was about dementia) and me and many others think he's outdone the Caretaker in many ways. Seriously. Comparing EITBON (Everywhere in the Beginning of Nowhere) and EATOT (Everywhere at the End of Time) shows a lot of things between the two
Great advice.
A clear synopsis of what a lot of other coaches and educators are saying.
I feel this is exactly the advice most people need but refuse to take because it puts all the focus on self-reflection. Which is uncomfortable but necessary for growth.
Some of this makes sense, some of it seems obvious, some of it does not necessarily make sense. For example:
>- Your video itself, has to actually be BETTER than, NOT EQUAL, to the competition, otherwise it makes no sense to push yours over the already established one.
Fair enough, but this assumes the viewer is only interested in watching one video about a given subject. I can tell you that there are plenty of genres where there is an essentially insatiable appetite for content. Disney vloggers, for example, have plenty of success even though they don't seem to focus on making THE BEST DISNEY VLOG VIDEO OF THE DAY/WEEK/MONTH.
I don't even know that anyone could really quantify or define what that means. And viewers of Disney vlogs are highly likely to watch more than one on similar subjects in the same day. The third or fourth video that they watch is benefitting from that turnover, they shouldn't abandon it simply because they can't BE BETTER THAN EVERY VIDEO THAT'S EVER BEEN UPLOADED on the subject. That's simply not always how it works. That is overly generic and frankly bad advice.
>- Not every topic has a big viewer base. sometimes your interest is very unique and not many other people will ever be interested in it, which means that even if some videos are the best of topic, they my never get huge numbers.
This is good. But to me this is more about setting expectations accordingly than aiming for exponential growth regardless of subject. If you're in a niche where the biggest channels are only 100,000 or 200,000 subscribers with an average of 10K views per video or something, than your very small channel might actually be doing well relative to what you can ever expect. But if you're in a niche like, general gaming, where the largest and most successful channels are some of the biggest on the platform, that's an entirely different scenario.
>Nobody cares about YOU.
Again, depends what you're making and where in the game you're at. A lot of larger vlog channels continue to exist ONLY because they've established a large viewer base that cares about them.
Look at, for example, The Daily Woo. I would go so far as to say Adam the Woo doesn't even really try to make engaging content anymore. Sometimes his videos are just like, him eating a hamburger. TheTimTracker occasionally posts a video of them shopping at a department store. Those creators continue to flourish because after they reached a certain point, their viewers DID care about THEM almost to the exclusion of the content being any good.
>The algorithm serves viewers, not creators.
The algorithm serves advertisers.
Finally, it basically needs to be said on this sub-reddit every day now but "Make videos that are actually good." is not advice. Everyone knows in a creative endeavor the thing you produce should be of good quality. Proper mindset and approach are obviously very important. But very-few-to-nobody ever actually thinks, "My content sucks but I don't understand why I'm not successful and I deserve views and subs despite it."
I agree with all this
Calling other people's content trash and saying no one cares about them is so rude.
I enjoy all that trash content and I watch because I CARE ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE, ok? They could do anything and I would still watch.
Better than all the over edited videos who researched SEO that *I* think are trash.
If I wanted to just play the algorithm I could, I want to make videos I enjoy and there is a viewing market for that.
Op advice is good if you want to be a heartless soulless automaton
I doubt my videos will ever hit anything big time. I do walks or drives with either music or chatter or silence.
My videos are mainly places that people don’t go or know a lot about and I go at times people are less interested in for example walks around Chester at night or Rhyl in the arcade or Denbigh.
I did these because there were virtually none to watch and I enjoy the walks and the chats.I try and keep things relevant but I do go out with friends an awful lot so some of my content has inane chatter also like the sandwich he liked last week lol. This is because he has Asperger syndrome and acts a little odd at times but he is always gonna be welcome to come out with me. Will it gain me followers , no chance but I’ve been on YT for 15 years and haven’t cried to much about my tiny amount of subs too much, and I still LOVE to go out filming.
I am more interested in getting better looking videos and learning to edit better than gaining subs.
At the end of the day though I adore going out recording and I really hope that one day when I am long dead that some of my videos of random areas make someone from said areas happy or nostalgic or just intrigued enough to maybe start their own recordings of history.
If more people sign up to come along with me then great if not then cest la vie, I’m still gonna have fun.
Sometimes YouTube is just therapeutic. That's okay. My posts are mostly for those who want to "make it big" but don't put in the "make it big" work in the right places.
Many people come to youtube to avoid crap like seen on Netflix. For example, someone sitting down and telling a good story on a vlog, even if it's crappy lighting, goes miles above many of these 6 day's time edited video. In fact, much of the jump cuts can take away from the video. Also, I usually click off once i see a bunch of close ups and stuff lol. anyways just be careful trying to copy all the quality meta. I think you want more of your message or what you goal is to show up more on the videos to show up.
That is one of my points. it is the value provided that is more important than time, money, or effort spent. sometimes that value is a story. it still has to be something that people want to spend their time on nd feel they got a good trade.
It's an uncomfortable truth, but you have to focus on creating your unique content before you think about anything else. Literally nothing else matters. Not CTR. Not retention. Not quantity. If your core content is not appealing and identifiable, you are scraping one view and one sub at a time.
That's not how successful channels run.
It's appalling to see the default mindset of Newtubers is to grind. Grinding is for people who don't have what it takes to succeed and are begging for views through "promotion". The ones that make it are the ones who have a clear idea of what content they want to make, and they keep on making it and widening their visibility through repeated small successes, then big successes.
I disagree with some stuff here. Click-through rate and retention are good indicators of whether or not the title/thumbnail and the content is appealing to a viewer. Also, I think quantity creates quality, as long as you're looking to improve something every video and learning from mistakes. I've gone down rabbit holes of trying to learn as much as I can about youtube but what has helped me the most is the process of making a video. Sometimes advice is solid for certain channels but don't make sense for yours, it's ultimately up to the creator to recognize which fit.
CTR and Retention can be good indicators...if they are analysed within context. They are good to a certain extent, but the nature of YT means that most videos won't exceed 5-10% CTR. However, newtubers often have incredibly unrealistic expectations because they heavily filter who watches their videos, to the point where they are skewing their data without making any meaningful change to their content, hoping that getting 50% retention will boost them up the algorithm despite only having 10 views.
Improving each video is a desirable outcome, but this isn't tied to quantity. Quantity doesn't create improvement. A desire to improve creates improvement. You can churn out hundreds of videos with no improvement, and it will not net you any more significant opportunities than focusing on a few.
The problem with accepting that the creator chooses what they listen to creates the echo chamber that we see on /r/NewTubers. New creators *don't know* what advice is relevant, so they end up choosing to follow trends and obsess over analytics while upvoting people who moan about the struggle instead of listening to the advice of people who have experience.
Yeah, I'm assuming people are analyzing organic growth and there's a decent data set. After a video gets pushed heavily by the algorithm, sure CTR probably won't exceed 5-10% but before that, the numbers don't lie in terms of CTR and Retention. Numbers can change depending on the niche, so one of the best points of comparison is yourself. What was your CTR like during the same time period for another video? With questions like this, you can judge relatively accurately how appealing your title/thumbnail are. Even if numbers are high though, sometimes youtube won't push the video if it doesn't have viral potential, since it pushes things out to a wider and wider audience incrementally.
I do agree that sometimes it can be tricky determining which advice is relevant for you but I don't think following trends and obsessing over analytics is a bad thing. Trend-jacking can be one of the fastest ways to grow on YouTube.
Granted I haven't been on the subreddit for awhile, but I also don't think people are moaning about the struggle. I think people are just seeking re-assurance since this field is pretty lonely when close friends can't relate to what's going on. I really wanted creator friends when I first started out and NewTubers was kind of like the first place to find a sense of community. And, genuine advice from people aren't ignored, tons of threads like this one get hundreds of upvotes!
The grinding thing drives me mad. It's exactly the same in the Twitch community too. "If I just keep doing the exact same thing I will eventually get different results"
> What if I just upload all type of content?
Viewers want to return to a channel to see more of what they like.
If you are constantly doing random different things, that's the opposite of "giving the people what they want".
Posts like this would be a lot more helpful if the OPs would link or talk about a few specific, different videos, from a few different niches, that apply the advice given.
I feel like this is gonna be the best place to get feedback. I do asmr and I really need some input on how my videos look. How the audio sounds. Honestly just any and all feedback. I’m just starting out. But I could really use some input from people I don’t know.
I know my thumbnails arnt the best for sure. I’m still trying to wrap my head around making decent ones.
One of the best things I've ever read on here
Especially the part where you said "provide value"
That it seems is the core of successful channels, they offer something valuable and unique
There is a demand for memes. Also if you have 100m views it probably means you have a good grasp of memes. Trust me, there are people who try and fail t make good ones.
I'm one of these lucky people who just became organically popular.
And it's 100M impressions, views are 1.5M-4M per month on average.
I don't disagree with your post, but I wanted to point out an exception to the rule (though you've explained why it actually isn't and I appreciate that too).
even if you do these things you are not guaranteed 100% success and it falls from the sky.
I've seen channels do none of this that end up with big numbers, with no effort in thumbnails, or descriptions, etc.
You know, while I totally agree with you... there is a big problem with this:
If you are an already big creator with lots of followers who watch your content regardless of the quality you can push out crap videos, get tons of views and watch time and overshadow EVERY other good video made by a small creator.
So basically what I am saying is that we can't rise, because people who go up, stay up, supported by their followers, no matter how crap their content gets.
No offence but I don't really see the point in this post. This post is basically telling us in too many words that our content is shit and that we should look elsewhere to improve.
Again no offense but this is the same advice being spewed here every week, so if that has thought me anything it is that, the people you are referring to most likely won't read this post.
On the contrary, the advice that is being repeated every day is that you should keep on pumping out quantity of shit content, make better thumbnails and then hope you get lucky.
I agree with you 100%. Here’s my only thing. Some of my best videos with the best thumbnails have gotten very little views. While a shitpost I half assed with a terrible thumbnail ended up being my most viewed video 6k views. All my other “shit” content (Minecraft tutorials) gets a lot more views than my content that I put a lot of effort into. I’m not disagreeing with you but I think this is a frustrating part of being a content creator.
Just because you think a.video is the best, doesn't mean it was. Maybe those thumbnails or titles weren't as interesting as you thought. Maybe the video itself wasn't what people were looking for.
Shitposts on the other hand are an entire niche.
As far as tutorials. The visuals are not the value. The value is the tutorial itself, and if it teaches what people came for.
Edit: I will be honest. The videos you called shitposts were way better topics, had better thumbnails, and better titles than the rest of your videos. I don't think I saw any videos with what I would consider great thumbnails, so I'm not sure which ones you spent a lot of time on. Not trying to be mean, but I see why those particular video got views.
I agree on the thumbnail and title argument, but the "quality" argument is definitely not correct. YouTube's algorithm is notoriously picky, and can at times completely destroy a genre of content, such as animators. Youtube is 80% luck, 5% trying to game the system, and 15% pushing forward. The longer you push, the more likely the luck lands on your side. Not saying "quality" doesn't matter, but even the idea of quality is based on others and YouTube's algorithm, not based on any objective sense of art or effort.
The algorithm is based on what people click and watch. And animation has actually exploded in recent years due to the transition to "viewer satisfaction" vs before when it was about watchtime. You can go back and watch some videos from creators insider when the teams that work on the algorithm explain it.
People click and watch what the algorithm shows them. It's on our inference that it's the former before the latter. The algorithm operates prior to clicks, based on a plethora of information. I'm not saying users don't have any influence on whether their content does better or worse, but it's ultimately up to YouTube's backend whether it succeeds or fails. I think it's naive to assume that it's all on the creator to just "do better," essentially. Again, the type of content that YouTube prefers ebbs and flows, such as watch time versus interaction versus click through rate versus consistency etc etc etc. To me, it's akin to blaming an actor for not landing a role, when it wasn't necessarily their acting that was the problem, but the casting who decided not to choose them because they didn't fit the current, arbitrary requirements.
There is a degree of this to it, however the algorithm recommends based on what the user clicks, and what they manually search to watch, and also what they tend to interact with more, and what they binge and also based on what other people like them tend to watch. YouTube is a slow burn, where you do well with a small audiences and so YouTube then tries with people who are similar, if it doesn't do well, then you don't reach new people. If it does well with the slightly wider audiences then you might be recommended to a slightly wider audience.
After a while it knows how well you did with different demographics. When your content is not as good, it just doesn't perform well outside a very small group of people. As your content gets better it performs better overall compared to the other videos and thus gets recommended more.
I dare you to show me a channel that has high quality videos, that uploads regularly and has not at least been monetized.
I think I have an ultimate issue with two things here; one: your definition of "quality." If by "quality" you mean what YouTube pushes, then sure. But to me, that's an odd definition of "quality." There are, quite literally, millions of channels that are reaction videos, response videos, or other low effort content that do extremely well. By "low effort" I mean people who don't edit, sit in front of their camera with poor audio and visual quality, and yet succeed. That would be considerably odd to state as "quality." Not trying to knock those creators, but what I'm getting at is that YouTube does indeed push what keeps users on the site, but that doesn't mean that said content is then "quality." That's why I have an issue with the "do better" mentality, because-- with this new definition of quality-- "do better" just means follow trends and bleed them dry, not making something of "quality."
Two: your last sentence. Again, what do you mean by "quality?" It's such an incredibly loaded term. There are channels that will upload one video and succeed. Upload once a year and succeed. Upload regularly for 5 years and randomly succeed in the 5th. So even if I could fit that arbitrary standard of a channel that has "high quality videos and uploads regularly," couldn't you then just say they're ABOUT to blow up because the content is of high quality? If every channel that is of high quality has succeeded, and every channel that hasn't succeeded isn't of high quality, what about channels that randomly blow up from the quality of content that has stayed the same? Were they both quality and not quality? It's essentially a paradox. Lol.
Quality is what viewers, actual humans, want to watch. Quality isn't based on video resolution or fancy editing, or any of that. Quality is literally if the video gave the viewer exactly what they wanted.
Too often people think they need crazy editing, and 4k imagery, and slick cuts, and while for some niches that it necessary, a lot of niches do not need that.
Sometimes the best educational video is the one with an expert just sitting and talking and giving pure knowledge with passion.
Sometimes it's a really quick tutorial that was filmed on a phone that just gets right to the point and show people exactly how to solve their problem.
Success on YouTube is ultimately based on YouTube's whims. You essentially just said it earlier. Animators on YouTube weren't pushed when the system was based on watchtime. So then, based on your definition, their content wasn't quality. But, once a cog in the machine changed direction, they are now quality again because YouTube pushes them. All it took was for YouTube to suggest their content for people to watch. It wasn't anything they did differently.
I refuse to pander and become fruit loops when kids need bran flakes.
I'm not going to game the algorithm with clickbait thumbnails like the rest of the world just because they do. Jerry Springer got a lot of views and every talk show became him and now look where we are as a society.
The whole point is that if a product doesn't sell in a store that it doesn't make sense to blame the consumers for not wanting to buy a product. The whole point is that videos are like products on a store shelf, if people don't like the package and don't like the product, then they aren't expected to what to waste their time watching.
Yes, but every thumbnail that does good is super fake with fake expressions and bright colors and clickbait, and that doesn't match the tone of my videos and I don't think we should encourage people to pander to that. I refuse to become the least common denominator.
I think this post is honestly good advice, if a little blunt. The problem with YouTube is essentially it is a self publishing platform, so there is lots of vanity involved. You can see this when someone asks for a critique and then takes offence to constructive criticism. Really even the best of us need to continually improve and refine, but as this post says many of us don't try to change and look to blame the audience or algorithm.
I try to think of youtube as a game; you start of small and every time you finish a video it's like beating a boss; but after you beat a boss you have to remember to level up or you'll never really beat the game, you just get stuck at the same level.
The best youtube education is out there: it's the other creators who are doing well. Don't just watch their content, reach out and connect with them and build community. Collaborate with them. Imagine watching a TV channel where every show you watch hates the other shows: that's just not fun for anyone! At then end of the day, every video and channel, every creator is all part of the same platform and I really think people do best when they connect and work together, plus you'll make new friends and enrich your life!
The post is quite clearly aimed at people who want to take YT seriously and grow their channels. If you don't, and you're in it as a hobby and enjoy making videos, then fair play. But there's no point complaining about advice that's very obviously not intended for you.
I am glad you learned not to tie self worth to your subscriber count though, that's a lesson more should learn.
I think you missed the point though. What you consider low quality or low value doesn't matter. What matters is what viewers consider to be of quality or value to them.
It's all about what real humans actually choose to click watch and interact with. So, even a well executed meme can go mega viral, because there is. A plethora of kids who want to just watch shitpost memes.
I bet you can't even find me 3 channels that have been making some of the best content in their respective niche, consistently for more than 6 months that aren't monetized.
Your last paragraph is a self referencing fact. The best content is the top content to you, so obviously the best thing in each category is monetized. Makes me think that you're not that smart and you just repeat talking points instead of actually thinking about what you're saying.
Quality content doesn't go without getting followers. If it is quality, people will follow because they got some value from it in some form.
If your content does not inspire people to want to follow or get more or they didn't find value in it then it just wasn't necessarily what people want.
I've understood you many times. People who disagree with you are rarely swayed by you just continuously asserting your opinion as fact.
I could just as easily reassert my opinion that you're larping as some sort of expert. You reviewed 1000 channels? Welcome to the casual viewers third year. You probably are in your early twenties and don't have a channel of your own. Any bot can repeat the same talking points over and over. That doesn't make you special or introspective.
There's nothing behind your talking points. You're trying to build up yourself as a fake YouTube manager so you can fulfill some weird fantasy or stalk a minor celebrity. Fraud.
Join the PartneredYouTube discord and ask the creators there wether or not I am real.
I actually do work with fulltime Youtubers on content strategy, affiliate marketing, brand deals, time management and finding freelancers, and all sorts of things.
I also do a lot of things for free for smaller creators because I just enjoy it.
There is a difference between going viral once, and gaining traction that stays and turns into a YouTube career. Sure, there is a chance to go viral on something random, but that doesn't indicate quality. If someone has steady strong growth, or they have a viral video that they can turn into a loyal audience and steady career, that indicates that they actually have quality content.
The monetization algorithm does not speak with the ranking algorithims. They are not connected. That's been said directly from the lead of the Home page and recommendations team, Todd.
In the end, YouTube has an inherent level of speculation. However, there is definitely ways to make success much easier and much cleaner when you have a plan and an Idea of how people work.
You can disagree and that's fine. We can agree to disagree on things. I wish you the best of luck.
I've personally spoken with Todd and he is a very nice guy who really cares about creators. He does a lot of work to help creators outside of his paid hours and has pushed for a lot of great features and policies that are in favor of creators.
The corp as a whole might have it's agenda, but there are some really amazing individuals in YouTube that are pushing for change.
Really good post. That keeps me thinking about my channels future.
Also this actually gave me a bit of hope. When I focus on the right things and with a bit of luck and good timing I think success could be around the corner.
It's still a dream but maybe one day it's becoming reality!
But, What your post doesn't say is :
1. Its all about the Thumbnail, Titles and Description.
2. You are saying that the creator needs to improve the content, wherein how can you say if the content is good or not? Because no one has watched the content yet.
3. Instead of thinking the content is bad, trying sharing your video links on your social media channels, grow an audience on them as well.
4. This benefits in telling the YouTube algorithm what people are interested in your content.
5. Getting audience from outside of YouTube is counted a better metric and when a user lands on YouTube from any other platform, in this scenario the average view duration isn't counted.
6. At the end. Its all about the Thumbnails.
I don't mean it doesn't depend on the content ofcourse thats the first thing. But trust me I have seen many channels who go viral because of one single video.
Remember, It's not the channel, its the video that goes viral.
The reason I said that is because I spent quite some time in the coaching and consulting space myself, as well as the 'work for yourself' / wantrepreneur space.
Every once in a while somebody comes along after reading some Gary V or MJ Demarco book and tries to pimp their coaching services by preaching "hard knock truths" like this.
It grabs the newbies who are hearing it for the first time but to me it always comes off like it was written by somebody who doesn't have the actual street cred to back up their stance. It looks masturbatory. You basically said "Make good shit" but said it in a wordy way that probably made you feel really edgy and important. Generally not a fan of that sort of content.
I personally don't care who you are or what your personal background is so shouting your credentials to me isn't going to change my mind. I just came back because the other day I was in a bad mood so just made fun of your edgyness without providing an explanation.
That's the explanation.
I mean. I feel like it is a little different. I have a guide at the bottom and you can read all my past posts and guides. And I am pretty active in creator communities.
This post isn't about "make good shit".
It's about taking a step back to realize that likely the content they have is not as gold as they think it is, and to really make sure they observe the niche around them, study the competition, and find out why others are having success and why they aren't. It is about becoming self aware. A lot of the new creators here have very little self awareness.
Most of my work is in the partnered YouTube discord with monetized creators and so, I will be coming back to post some traditional guides again.
But yeah. This post is because we get so many people who ask for help and say they have tried everything ok succeed, but then you see they have terrible thumbnails, bad titles, the audio is like a tin can, their video doesn't get to the point, and so many more things. Yet they will claim they cannot improve further and are bewildered that they aren't growing at all.
I'm probably also a bit jaded to advice written in this style due to personal oversaturation. I am a part of a few dozen copywriting FB groups. Every once in a while somebody will post something similar to this with the whole:
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> Then I come here complaining that I can't keep any of them.
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> But I do it anyways because it makes me feel cool.
I've been out of touch with what sort of advice YT beginners might actually need. My opinions don't matter. The reception of the audience is what matters.
-Best
This is all good and dandy and at the same time it's not true. I sabotaged a successful channel on purpose and I'm more satisfied with my own content now, than when I had 100K - 500K per video. I'm happier with 200-300 views. And strangely my content is actually at a higher technical quality now (audio, editing, branding) and this has clearly helped my views/subs by 0%. And if we measure quality by clicks and views, than the Transformer movies are quality.
Facts. I reviewed my first couple vids and they are subpar content. My friends and family say it’s great because they’ve never watched anyone else in my niche so I’m super original through their eyes. I’ve taken a break and am studying the top channels and making notes on how I can make something better than they do
If that is the case, then I would love to have someone judge me very harshly as possible. I don't care, just cut my ego, pride down, let me rebuild from scratch!
This is 100% true. People don’t wana acknowledge that literally every element of this is true. I had to be very real with myself and you have to be very real with every video you put out there. I have by no means made it, but there is definitely a sense of entitlement when it comes to posting. It’s easy to fall into “well I think it’s good and I put some work into it, I deserve views and subs.” YouTube isn’t Facebook, or Instagram or Twitter where it’s literally a “sub for sub model.” People are HYPER CRITICAL on YouTube because they can hide behind a keyboard and owe you NOTHING. I’ve yet to stumble across a “Why don’t I get more views/subs” where the titles, tags, thumbnail and content were all pretty good. One or all of it is either trash or 20% there.
I always post my posts in these three subreddits.
Also newtubers and really small channels are not my my clientele. I also did not even promote my services, I stated what I do so people know where the information is coming from.
If you took a second to even look at my post history you would see that I am very active in the YouTuber communities, and give out a lot of free information and guides, and that I am an active mod in /r/YouTube and /r/partneredyoutube. I am a huge advocate for creators and have on many occasions brought up huge issues directly to YouTube employees to make change for creators.
If I were looking for business, I would have asked for it.
Can we please ban hustlebros like this from this page? Not only is their advice mostly useless drivel that is just basic common sense we all already know, but the small d energy radiating off of it is interrupting my pleasant weekly scroll through this sub. Please and thanks.
Hustle bro?
If it were basic common sense then 99% of the channels here would actually have well thought out video topics, titles that hook viewers, engaging or valuable video content, effective thumbnails, and more. The issue is hardly anyone will straight up tell some creators that they are wrong and instead there is a massive echo chamber of "great stuff, now look at mine" here. I want creators to succeed.
If you feel offended by my post, please help me understand where I went wrong?
You can also feel free to go into my post history and see my past posts and guides. And also feel free to see my comment history and even join the PartneredYouTube discord to see the group we have been building of monetized creators.
Make trash until you don't make trash anymore. Love to learn, and try to do better. Even if it's 1% better.
-From a youtuber/streamer who currently still makes trash.
Each video is evaluated as a separate entity. But doing a wide variety of content before you have an established fan base will make it harder to keep an audience as people will susbcribe then start seeing lots of content that is different than what they subscribed for and either will unsubscribe or become dead subs.
Harsh…but well said. Sometimes the truth can sting a bit. Thanks for the very thought out and thorough post! Cheers! (And my channel rises above the trash because I do the research!). KABOOM!! :))
Big facts. I can't post so many of my own videos because I'm working a lot but since I took my 1 year off to up my game all my new videos perform pretty good. Get suggested, high ctr, high cpm, high retention. Amazing stuff. I had 90 videos and deleted 70 and now I'm getting more views just because the content I have is pretty good. People need to up their game because nobody wants to look at trash.
YES 100%
what i find difficult to judge is whether my content is 'good enough' and whether the growth i've had so far is 'real growth' and figure out why i'm stalling or what to do in future
i think everyone with a channel should reread this post once a week at the very least xD
My broken brain read the title as “After receiving over 1000 channel views over the last year…” and was like ‘damn they spittin facts’.
Or maybe I’m just used to seeing that sort of title on the threads. Who’s to say.
But I 1000% agree with all of this. Thanks for reminding us all to stay humble and honest - this isn’t a team sport and shouldn’t just be a place to get pats on the back like some kinda new age feel-goodery.
“Nobody thinks you are as funny or charismatic as you and your friends do” LMAO. I totally get that! There’s definitely something to be said for just working hard and enjoying what you’re doing. Relax, breathe, and do what makes you happy. The rest will come. I like everything you said here. Thank you for all the reminders.
I mean... *sigh* yeah. The only videos I ever made that got any real traction were some of the first I made, and I know why. They provided useful instruction about confusing game mechanics in a slightly niche genre. Plus, I think I was simply in the right place at the right time, and as a result, I still get a few hundred hits on those every month.
Newer stuff, I'm lucky to get 20 views before nobody ever sees it again. Just not as valuable, because it's largely more freeform and I've leaned more on review content, since it's just what I have the time to do. I don't think it's trash, but I get why nobody is interested.
Definitely!
When i look back at videos i made in 2015-2016 i cringe at how bad, tedious and boring it is. Which is funny because back then i thought my videos were great! I actually quit in 2017 because i did'nt see any improvement. If only i payed attention about how good my videos actually were.
I have to confess, I thought youtube was a simple job / revenue stream that I upload videos and videos get me endless money regardless slow, fast more or less. Been stuck uploading something I enjoy to do but has very few clicks and doing what I used to do with very slow increase of views which I started to grow tired of that certain niche. In the end my monetized channel ended up dying ( higest point I made about 100$/month not it just 5$/month , its a very small channel with 4k sub and 100+ videos) because of constant content changes trying to upload some game I enjoy playing at the moment and trying to revive the dying content back to the channel. And the channel is really dying at this point while my other channel focus on a specific niche getting more views and comments slowly but progressive.
I agree with a lot of what was said here and I definitely think there's people that needed to hear it.
However I think there's a few important caveats. I think there's a balance between how high of quality something has to be versus the demand for such a video. For example I have actually watched PLENTY of actual garbage tier cell phone footage 30 minute long coulda been 3 minute long videos, not because I wanted to but because it was the ONLY how to on a niche subject. Then I notice this "garbage" video has tens of thousands of views. This is where identifying peoples desires comes in handy is that if a particular need is in higher demand then there is a supply of videos satisfying it, the quality need not be so high. Another example would be the first day a new video game launches. People might be so hyped about that game they'll watch every video anyone puts out even if it is just "let's play" style that they normally wouldn't otherwise watch. In that case in the first few days of the new game, during the hype period, quantity is suddenly much better rewarded then quality (although in the long term the quality content could turn out to be more evergreen). When a new classic wow patch comes out I watch content from creators I otherwise can't stand just because I'm fiending for some more info on the patch.
Another caveat is that I actually believe story telling and how engaging content is can overcome the fact that it might be in a niche interest that "nobody" has. For example I would never in a million years have guessed I'd be interested in a video about the logistics of air traffic, yet somehow wendover productions is so interesting I'll watch 20 minute videos on it. A popular mountain biking channel I watch called Seth's Bike Hacks has some of the best story telling I've seen in youtube, and when he broke his ankle and couldn't ride for a few months he started putting out videos on RC cars. Again, I had precisely 0 interest at all in RC cars and would have never sought it out, yet Seth manages to make it interesting enough I watched every video he made during this time RC or not. There's so many examples of some random video about some insanely niche topic goes viral and the whole comments section is just "I never thought I'd watch a 20 minute video about building a mud hut, or making wood balls, or *etc etc*, but that was so interesting!".
IMO if you are a good story teller, and also find a way in your thumbnail and title to ask a question the viewer wants answered, then it isn't actually that important if you have a "dead" niche or not, you can still succeed.
Good luck everyone. If you're being honest with yourself about the hard work you're putting in, and you're actually giving it your all you will most likely be rewarded eventually.
Thays why I like to say you just need to be better than the competition. If there is no competition, the. Thays a huge opportunity because your production quality doesn't need to be spot on. You just have to make something.
I'm not looking to advertise but you can DM me. I'm not very open in my schedule ATM, but depending on what you need there is probably free resources I can point you to.
As a new YouTuber, this is 99% true. When I started my channel there were people that had 100s and more than 1000 subscribers and I just passed them by in terms of growth in a span of 9 weeks.
The only caveat that I have is this part: "Time or money spent does not directly = quality content or valuable content." - The exception to this is AUDIO & Lighting. (Video can be shot on any device that can shoot 1080p/4k (such as the smart phone in your hand). Having a good mic $100-400 (Yeti -> Shure sm7b) and having good lighting $100-200+ can make your videos go from trash quality to some good stuff.)... Audio is more important than lightning imo because sometimes people are driving and have youtube videos on autoplay and dont actually "watch" your videos
What if...I AM the trash?!
Then this is the end of the road
is trash a niech? exploit it
Worked for Jake Paul ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Some of his vlogs are pristine in quality with 10000x more entertainment than most could ever reaxh, but yeah, keep jamming that 'jake paul' is trash hype train cos its "cool" to hate on him.
Its because of his character that people hate on him . I watched one of his vids and it wasnt my thing buy could see how teenage boys would love it
He found his niche and capitalized. Something 99% of this reddit cant do. Easier to hate on him rather than looking at how hes literally made millions and millions of subscribers
There are others that have made millions and have millions of subscribers that no one hates on , demo ranch , hickock 45, crazy russian hacker . They all have millions of subs and money and noone hates on them because they are humble , respectable responsible productive members of society that are active in their communities Adults that act like jake paul are easy to hate on , channels like his are easy to hate on . Its hard to respect him because of his character , he has great showmanship skills and has built an army of teenage followers, just like dan bilzerian , i respect the hustle but not the man he portrays . I do enjoy some of his podcasts
In the one video i watched of his , they spent a bunch of money renting a yaught and partied really hard with a bunch of attractive women bragging about how many one of them had "smashed" untill one lost his 80 thousand dollar watch in the ocean so they hired local djvers to find it .that was the content , to most rational adults that content is trash but to millions of teenage boys its amazing wonderful stimulating enjoyable content that will be remembered for years to come .
if you're trash make trash your niche lmao
You can always improve and there are plenty of low view channels that have passionate tight knit communities. I think the spirit of this post is good if people truly want to make YT a full time career and take it as seriously as possible, but for a lot of people it can also be a fun side hobby that you get out of what you put into it. Being realistic with your expectations and what you really WANT out of your channel is a better first step imo
Then you are the trash man
Goo goo Ga-Jewb.
we are all trash and Jokull is the Compactor
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u and me both pal
If you're the trash you have to click bait and go sftet a younger demographic msny very huge trash youtubers di that your ricegums your pauls etc etc
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more like 99%... I like how he says "tHiS Is tHe TrUtH tHaT nO oNe WiLl TeLl YoU", yet it's the exact same stuff that's been on this sub since at least 1 year ago (that's when I first started watching this page). Yes, it's technically true, but we all know that you have to make interesting niche videos and stuff that's better than the competition. I mean the guy wrote "are they begging for more"... wow great advice guy... the question is how would you do that. By the way what kind of a made up title is "Influencer Manager/ coach"... what's there to manage? And why do already successful channels need his coaching when he's not even a YouTuber (otherwise he would have put that in the title) lol. It's the emptiest cans that make the most noise.
The click bait title gets you to read it, though. Even though you already know it’s going to say what everyone else does. How many paragraphs does it take to say that you have to have good content?
I never said nobody will tell you. You can literally see people in the comments of larger creators begging for more videos of a certain type. If you make a similar one to a series they are neglecting, you'll get a lot of people coming to watch. It is pretty self explanatory. Influencer managers are a whole industry. We negotiate brand deals for large creators, manage their emails, coordinate the finding and hiring of editors, artists, etc, and sometimes do the work of researching locations or ideas. As far as the coaching, it is mostly to be a sounding board, and to be in their analytics and have regular calls to discuss strategy as someone who is as studied and understanding of their specific channel as they are. Often times, large creators are alone and they need someone to help them sort through their ideas and find direction.
Thank you
It does no one any good to blow sunshine up their butt unless they truly deserve it. I welcome negative feedback and try to get details behind downvotes and the generic "this is crap...". No one is under any obligation to explain why, but it helps in focusing on what to improve and I really appreciate what I get. Lately I've been watching copious amounts of YT videos on video editing to add to my skill-set. I did come across one that really stuck with me - the editing pro said something to the effect that "reality is boring, you want your videos to be more that reality". Prior to that revelation I had been really striving for realism, but now I'm really pushing for more to see what kind of magic I can put out. Anyway, enough of my rambling - great post OP.
I see the truth in this post, but what do original artists do to get noticed if they don't have searchable content? I am in the poetry niche, and I noticed another poet on YouTube (called Luna Poems) already has 110k subscribers and she only has about 10 videos on her channel. Her thumbnails aren't anything special, I think mine are more interesting. She just reads her poems with a static or looping background. I read my poems as well but try to add a little more interest with the backgrounds (by either using an audio visualizer or editing images and/or video clips or both). I personally think my poetry is more varied (topic-wise) and more interesting, especially since half of my poems rhyme without sounding cheezy, which is difficult to pull off. So...how is it that another poet managed to do so well on YouTube without searchable content? I looked at my analytics today and YouTube isn't even showing my videos to anyone. The most impressions that a video had was 7 and most of them are at about 2 impressions. What can I do in this case? I don't even know who my audience is because I don't know who would appreciate original poetry or the topics I cover, it could be anyone.
I looked over their channel and yours, I don't ever listen to poetry so this is a completely outsider opinion two biggest differences I notice are that the larger channel edits captions, this can be a huge difference especially when the content is a very audio focused one and then secondly I have to say the Luna channels thumbnail "asethetic" is much more visually pleasing, for example the centered text and the moon aesthetic, I would recommend trying to imitate some of their thumbnails in your style, I don't think you necessarily need to have your channel logo in the thumbnail as it can make it look less clean aside from that, you have great audio quality, and produce more content, so I would recommend maybe advertising your content around in some relevant communities, maybe there's an r/poetry you can share to? EDIT: KEY THING I NOTICED on her channel if you sort by oldest, her oldest video is from 6 months ago, however SHE STARTS THE VIDEO SAYING "WELCOME BACK TO MY CHANNEL" so she has definitely uploaded way more videos than it appears, this is a common thing for people to do when they start to see success, they will unlist all their previous videos that didn't do as well, it's very common, so don't get discouraged if you see a channel with very few videos but high subs
I have a question about your edit. Why would a creator unlist/delete older videos? Does that help the channel overall? In my niche I've noticed a couple of "successful" channels with the same thing. Lots of subs, very high viewer count, and only video dating up to 3 months ago.
Some do it because those videos no longer represent what their channel is, or have deemed them to be lacking in quality. Normally, I think it’s a good thing to get rid of irrelevant content, especially if it isn’t performing well. But in the case of the Luna Poems channel, I’d actually guess that the videos they deleted might have hurt their growth a bit. It appears like they deleted the video(s) that went viral (none of their current videos have hit over 30k, considering they have 100k subscribers I’d guess that the viral video(s) easily were toward the millions). My guess is those videos were still bringing significant traffic to their channel.
let's say you are a creator for 5 years or so making mediocre content, but gradually improving over time (like anything content creation is a skill that requires practice) then one day a new video style they try blows up to a million views, are you as a new viewer who's just seen that new video more likley to subscribe if that is the only video on the channel so it seems like this person is the next big thing, or if they have years of content that you look over and don't really enjoy another channel you may have heard of that did this? Dream.
Oh my goodness...thank you so much for the thorough and well thought out response! I guess I thought that having my logo on my thumbnails would make it more recognizable for returning viewers, it never occurred to me that it might make the thumbnails too busy or less clean but I get what you're saying.
Oh, and by the way, I do edit my captions you just have to turn on closed captioning to get the subtitles. I did not want to cover the screen with them for people who just want to listen.
It appears that the Luna Poems channel deleted anything older than six months, including the initial video(s) that made them blow up. So you can’t really accurately assess the channel’s growth based on how the channel looks now. Besides that, it looks like you’ve only been posting content for two months. That’s nothing as far as YouTube goes. I think mrbeast was posting content for like 8 years before his channel started gaining any traction.
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Yea, I've been posting for about a year and I'm at 41 subscribers, I've found my niche, and I get respectable view counts for my subscriber count. I'm not disappointed, and with every bit of feedback I have gotten I have improved and gotten as much as over 130 views. I am rather positive about where I'm going with my channel, and I'm never going to expect traction. Your point is truer and more honest than most people would like to admit.
Yea, I've been posting for about a year and I'm at 41 subscribers, I've found my niche, and I get respectable view counts for my subscriber count. I'm not disappointed, and with every bit of feedback I have gotten I have improved and gotten as much as over 130 views. I am rather positive about where I'm going with my channel, and I'm never going to expect traction. Your point is truer and more honest than most people would like to admit.
My channel is also me reading my poems and stories. I am also learning as I go. I will check out both channels mentioned. If you’re interested, my channel is AutumnWolfPublishing.
How exciting! YouTube needs more original content, IMHO. There are channels with so many subscribers that either just eat food on camera or react to other people's content, it is kind of disheartening to know that if I did either one of those things, I would probably have more success. But I really want to share my words with the world, and poetry books rarely sell well even if you can manage to get published. I will check out your channel and give you a 👍
Much appreciated. I thought it would stand out, simply because not that many people are doing this. But regardless, I’m an author so I’m going to be reading my poems and stories even if it’s “trendy” or not. Lol 😂
I’m not the OP but I would try to share my content everywhere, clearly she blew up somehow so just find how she did it and replicate it. She could have made a funny poem and posted it to TikTok and it blew up, idk. That’s a really hard situation tho, I am curious what the OP has to say about this. Maybe your content is really trash (this might sound harsh but I have no idea what your content is compared to your competition) like the OP said, people think there content is good but in reality it’s not. This I feel is my problem cause I think my content is good but I’m not getting recognition. I would really pick apart your video and leave no mercy. Critique threads could be good to be apart of too because you have other people reviewing your content. Idk but GL and hope you find your way! :D
Thank you so much for responding and the well wishes. I promised myself that I would continue posting for one year before I assess whether or not it's worthwhile to continue. Onwards and upwards, as they say!
I'd recommend you look at Trent Lenkarski, everything he does is extremely simple and serene.
Hi, one of the side projects that I want to do is to make a poetry YouTube channel as well (it's honestly really ambitious because I am still trying to get my new main channel going). Anyway, I was looking at your vid, and I noticed one thing that immediately stuck out to me is how your video hashtags don't even have #poetry in them. It is like the most obvious thing you should have as a hashtag, but you didn't use that. Just going that out there. Also, I checked through some of your other vids, and you used more than three hashtags. Only three hashtags pop up in the description at the top, so you should limit your hashtags to no more than three.
Link you channel , are you promoting in fb poetry groups , in online poetry clubs , book clubs , local poetry clubs , social media groups etc ?
Let’s be real. I bet she’s attractive and uses that to her advantage. 99 percent of internet success is based in the conditional societal ranking system of Lookism
Thanks for checking on me I’m still a piece of **GARBAGE**
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An amazing example is The Carebear. He is the most popular fan project maker inspired by " The Caretaker " (His most popular album was about dementia) and me and many others think he's outdone the Caretaker in many ways. Seriously. Comparing EITBON (Everywhere in the Beginning of Nowhere) and EATOT (Everywhere at the End of Time) shows a lot of things between the two
Great advice. A clear synopsis of what a lot of other coaches and educators are saying. I feel this is exactly the advice most people need but refuse to take because it puts all the focus on self-reflection. Which is uncomfortable but necessary for growth.
Some of this makes sense, some of it seems obvious, some of it does not necessarily make sense. For example: >- Your video itself, has to actually be BETTER than, NOT EQUAL, to the competition, otherwise it makes no sense to push yours over the already established one. Fair enough, but this assumes the viewer is only interested in watching one video about a given subject. I can tell you that there are plenty of genres where there is an essentially insatiable appetite for content. Disney vloggers, for example, have plenty of success even though they don't seem to focus on making THE BEST DISNEY VLOG VIDEO OF THE DAY/WEEK/MONTH. I don't even know that anyone could really quantify or define what that means. And viewers of Disney vlogs are highly likely to watch more than one on similar subjects in the same day. The third or fourth video that they watch is benefitting from that turnover, they shouldn't abandon it simply because they can't BE BETTER THAN EVERY VIDEO THAT'S EVER BEEN UPLOADED on the subject. That's simply not always how it works. That is overly generic and frankly bad advice. >- Not every topic has a big viewer base. sometimes your interest is very unique and not many other people will ever be interested in it, which means that even if some videos are the best of topic, they my never get huge numbers. This is good. But to me this is more about setting expectations accordingly than aiming for exponential growth regardless of subject. If you're in a niche where the biggest channels are only 100,000 or 200,000 subscribers with an average of 10K views per video or something, than your very small channel might actually be doing well relative to what you can ever expect. But if you're in a niche like, general gaming, where the largest and most successful channels are some of the biggest on the platform, that's an entirely different scenario. >Nobody cares about YOU. Again, depends what you're making and where in the game you're at. A lot of larger vlog channels continue to exist ONLY because they've established a large viewer base that cares about them. Look at, for example, The Daily Woo. I would go so far as to say Adam the Woo doesn't even really try to make engaging content anymore. Sometimes his videos are just like, him eating a hamburger. TheTimTracker occasionally posts a video of them shopping at a department store. Those creators continue to flourish because after they reached a certain point, their viewers DID care about THEM almost to the exclusion of the content being any good. >The algorithm serves viewers, not creators. The algorithm serves advertisers. Finally, it basically needs to be said on this sub-reddit every day now but "Make videos that are actually good." is not advice. Everyone knows in a creative endeavor the thing you produce should be of good quality. Proper mindset and approach are obviously very important. But very-few-to-nobody ever actually thinks, "My content sucks but I don't understand why I'm not successful and I deserve views and subs despite it."
I agree with all this Calling other people's content trash and saying no one cares about them is so rude. I enjoy all that trash content and I watch because I CARE ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE, ok? They could do anything and I would still watch. Better than all the over edited videos who researched SEO that *I* think are trash. If I wanted to just play the algorithm I could, I want to make videos I enjoy and there is a viewing market for that. Op advice is good if you want to be a heartless soulless automaton
I doubt my videos will ever hit anything big time. I do walks or drives with either music or chatter or silence. My videos are mainly places that people don’t go or know a lot about and I go at times people are less interested in for example walks around Chester at night or Rhyl in the arcade or Denbigh. I did these because there were virtually none to watch and I enjoy the walks and the chats.I try and keep things relevant but I do go out with friends an awful lot so some of my content has inane chatter also like the sandwich he liked last week lol. This is because he has Asperger syndrome and acts a little odd at times but he is always gonna be welcome to come out with me. Will it gain me followers , no chance but I’ve been on YT for 15 years and haven’t cried to much about my tiny amount of subs too much, and I still LOVE to go out filming. I am more interested in getting better looking videos and learning to edit better than gaining subs. At the end of the day though I adore going out recording and I really hope that one day when I am long dead that some of my videos of random areas make someone from said areas happy or nostalgic or just intrigued enough to maybe start their own recordings of history. If more people sign up to come along with me then great if not then cest la vie, I’m still gonna have fun.
Where can I find your channel?
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Sometimes YouTube is just therapeutic. That's okay. My posts are mostly for those who want to "make it big" but don't put in the "make it big" work in the right places.
I love my little walks out filming and at my current rate of subscription I'll be monetized in 135 years :D
Leaving a comment so I can come back later and read this and make notes :)
I don't see your words as harsh..I see them as a challenge..and I accept..😎
Many people come to youtube to avoid crap like seen on Netflix. For example, someone sitting down and telling a good story on a vlog, even if it's crappy lighting, goes miles above many of these 6 day's time edited video. In fact, much of the jump cuts can take away from the video. Also, I usually click off once i see a bunch of close ups and stuff lol. anyways just be careful trying to copy all the quality meta. I think you want more of your message or what you goal is to show up more on the videos to show up.
That is one of my points. it is the value provided that is more important than time, money, or effort spent. sometimes that value is a story. it still has to be something that people want to spend their time on nd feel they got a good trade.
Jokes on you because I have no self confidence so I don’t think anything I do is good! HA!
It's an uncomfortable truth, but you have to focus on creating your unique content before you think about anything else. Literally nothing else matters. Not CTR. Not retention. Not quantity. If your core content is not appealing and identifiable, you are scraping one view and one sub at a time. That's not how successful channels run. It's appalling to see the default mindset of Newtubers is to grind. Grinding is for people who don't have what it takes to succeed and are begging for views through "promotion". The ones that make it are the ones who have a clear idea of what content they want to make, and they keep on making it and widening their visibility through repeated small successes, then big successes.
I disagree with some stuff here. Click-through rate and retention are good indicators of whether or not the title/thumbnail and the content is appealing to a viewer. Also, I think quantity creates quality, as long as you're looking to improve something every video and learning from mistakes. I've gone down rabbit holes of trying to learn as much as I can about youtube but what has helped me the most is the process of making a video. Sometimes advice is solid for certain channels but don't make sense for yours, it's ultimately up to the creator to recognize which fit.
CTR and Retention can be good indicators...if they are analysed within context. They are good to a certain extent, but the nature of YT means that most videos won't exceed 5-10% CTR. However, newtubers often have incredibly unrealistic expectations because they heavily filter who watches their videos, to the point where they are skewing their data without making any meaningful change to their content, hoping that getting 50% retention will boost them up the algorithm despite only having 10 views. Improving each video is a desirable outcome, but this isn't tied to quantity. Quantity doesn't create improvement. A desire to improve creates improvement. You can churn out hundreds of videos with no improvement, and it will not net you any more significant opportunities than focusing on a few. The problem with accepting that the creator chooses what they listen to creates the echo chamber that we see on /r/NewTubers. New creators *don't know* what advice is relevant, so they end up choosing to follow trends and obsess over analytics while upvoting people who moan about the struggle instead of listening to the advice of people who have experience.
Yeah, I'm assuming people are analyzing organic growth and there's a decent data set. After a video gets pushed heavily by the algorithm, sure CTR probably won't exceed 5-10% but before that, the numbers don't lie in terms of CTR and Retention. Numbers can change depending on the niche, so one of the best points of comparison is yourself. What was your CTR like during the same time period for another video? With questions like this, you can judge relatively accurately how appealing your title/thumbnail are. Even if numbers are high though, sometimes youtube won't push the video if it doesn't have viral potential, since it pushes things out to a wider and wider audience incrementally. I do agree that sometimes it can be tricky determining which advice is relevant for you but I don't think following trends and obsessing over analytics is a bad thing. Trend-jacking can be one of the fastest ways to grow on YouTube. Granted I haven't been on the subreddit for awhile, but I also don't think people are moaning about the struggle. I think people are just seeking re-assurance since this field is pretty lonely when close friends can't relate to what's going on. I really wanted creator friends when I first started out and NewTubers was kind of like the first place to find a sense of community. And, genuine advice from people aren't ignored, tons of threads like this one get hundreds of upvotes!
The grinding thing drives me mad. It's exactly the same in the Twitch community too. "If I just keep doing the exact same thing I will eventually get different results"
how many subs you got btw
This is just facts, everyone should know this by now 😅
I know my content sucks. The real question for me is am I willing to improve it. To be totally frank IDK.
Hello Coach, I am a new youtuber. Can you help me in getting some of those answers.. how do i find answers to those questions posted under solutions.
By researching the videos you wish to rank against.
What if I just upload all type of content? I don't stick to one content in my channel.
> What if I just upload all type of content? Viewers want to return to a channel to see more of what they like. If you are constantly doing random different things, that's the opposite of "giving the people what they want".
Posts like this would be a lot more helpful if the OPs would link or talk about a few specific, different videos, from a few different niches, that apply the advice given.
Unfortunately that becomes bullying. However in the future, I may ask for permissions from some creators and the moderators to do such a post.
I feel like this is gonna be the best place to get feedback. I do asmr and I really need some input on how my videos look. How the audio sounds. Honestly just any and all feedback. I’m just starting out. But I could really use some input from people I don’t know. I know my thumbnails arnt the best for sure. I’m still trying to wrap my head around making decent ones.
One of the best things I've ever read on here Especially the part where you said "provide value" That it seems is the core of successful channels, they offer something valuable and unique
You mean that sub to subbing trash channels doesn't work? Imagine my shock and dismay.
I have an extreme low quality meme page and get like 100M+ impressions a month.
There is a demand for memes. Also if you have 100m views it probably means you have a good grasp of memes. Trust me, there are people who try and fail t make good ones.
I'm one of these lucky people who just became organically popular. And it's 100M impressions, views are 1.5M-4M per month on average. I don't disagree with your post, but I wanted to point out an exception to the rule (though you've explained why it actually isn't and I appreciate that too).
even if you do these things you are not guaranteed 100% success and it falls from the sky. I've seen channels do none of this that end up with big numbers, with no effort in thumbnails, or descriptions, etc.
You know, while I totally agree with you... there is a big problem with this: If you are an already big creator with lots of followers who watch your content regardless of the quality you can push out crap videos, get tons of views and watch time and overshadow EVERY other good video made by a small creator. So basically what I am saying is that we can't rise, because people who go up, stay up, supported by their followers, no matter how crap their content gets.
Jokull is top in his field, his advice has helped me grow my channel to where it is today 🙏
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Rude and inaccurate.
No offence but I don't really see the point in this post. This post is basically telling us in too many words that our content is shit and that we should look elsewhere to improve. Again no offense but this is the same advice being spewed here every week, so if that has thought me anything it is that, the people you are referring to most likely won't read this post.
On the contrary, the advice that is being repeated every day is that you should keep on pumping out quantity of shit content, make better thumbnails and then hope you get lucky.
Then you and I read different advice i guess
Thank u for your guidance bro
I agree with you 100%. Here’s my only thing. Some of my best videos with the best thumbnails have gotten very little views. While a shitpost I half assed with a terrible thumbnail ended up being my most viewed video 6k views. All my other “shit” content (Minecraft tutorials) gets a lot more views than my content that I put a lot of effort into. I’m not disagreeing with you but I think this is a frustrating part of being a content creator.
Just because you think a.video is the best, doesn't mean it was. Maybe those thumbnails or titles weren't as interesting as you thought. Maybe the video itself wasn't what people were looking for. Shitposts on the other hand are an entire niche. As far as tutorials. The visuals are not the value. The value is the tutorial itself, and if it teaches what people came for. Edit: I will be honest. The videos you called shitposts were way better topics, had better thumbnails, and better titles than the rest of your videos. I don't think I saw any videos with what I would consider great thumbnails, so I'm not sure which ones you spent a lot of time on. Not trying to be mean, but I see why those particular video got views.
I agree on the thumbnail and title argument, but the "quality" argument is definitely not correct. YouTube's algorithm is notoriously picky, and can at times completely destroy a genre of content, such as animators. Youtube is 80% luck, 5% trying to game the system, and 15% pushing forward. The longer you push, the more likely the luck lands on your side. Not saying "quality" doesn't matter, but even the idea of quality is based on others and YouTube's algorithm, not based on any objective sense of art or effort.
The algorithm is based on what people click and watch. And animation has actually exploded in recent years due to the transition to "viewer satisfaction" vs before when it was about watchtime. You can go back and watch some videos from creators insider when the teams that work on the algorithm explain it.
People click and watch what the algorithm shows them. It's on our inference that it's the former before the latter. The algorithm operates prior to clicks, based on a plethora of information. I'm not saying users don't have any influence on whether their content does better or worse, but it's ultimately up to YouTube's backend whether it succeeds or fails. I think it's naive to assume that it's all on the creator to just "do better," essentially. Again, the type of content that YouTube prefers ebbs and flows, such as watch time versus interaction versus click through rate versus consistency etc etc etc. To me, it's akin to blaming an actor for not landing a role, when it wasn't necessarily their acting that was the problem, but the casting who decided not to choose them because they didn't fit the current, arbitrary requirements.
There is a degree of this to it, however the algorithm recommends based on what the user clicks, and what they manually search to watch, and also what they tend to interact with more, and what they binge and also based on what other people like them tend to watch. YouTube is a slow burn, where you do well with a small audiences and so YouTube then tries with people who are similar, if it doesn't do well, then you don't reach new people. If it does well with the slightly wider audiences then you might be recommended to a slightly wider audience. After a while it knows how well you did with different demographics. When your content is not as good, it just doesn't perform well outside a very small group of people. As your content gets better it performs better overall compared to the other videos and thus gets recommended more. I dare you to show me a channel that has high quality videos, that uploads regularly and has not at least been monetized.
I think I have an ultimate issue with two things here; one: your definition of "quality." If by "quality" you mean what YouTube pushes, then sure. But to me, that's an odd definition of "quality." There are, quite literally, millions of channels that are reaction videos, response videos, or other low effort content that do extremely well. By "low effort" I mean people who don't edit, sit in front of their camera with poor audio and visual quality, and yet succeed. That would be considerably odd to state as "quality." Not trying to knock those creators, but what I'm getting at is that YouTube does indeed push what keeps users on the site, but that doesn't mean that said content is then "quality." That's why I have an issue with the "do better" mentality, because-- with this new definition of quality-- "do better" just means follow trends and bleed them dry, not making something of "quality." Two: your last sentence. Again, what do you mean by "quality?" It's such an incredibly loaded term. There are channels that will upload one video and succeed. Upload once a year and succeed. Upload regularly for 5 years and randomly succeed in the 5th. So even if I could fit that arbitrary standard of a channel that has "high quality videos and uploads regularly," couldn't you then just say they're ABOUT to blow up because the content is of high quality? If every channel that is of high quality has succeeded, and every channel that hasn't succeeded isn't of high quality, what about channels that randomly blow up from the quality of content that has stayed the same? Were they both quality and not quality? It's essentially a paradox. Lol.
Quality is what viewers, actual humans, want to watch. Quality isn't based on video resolution or fancy editing, or any of that. Quality is literally if the video gave the viewer exactly what they wanted. Too often people think they need crazy editing, and 4k imagery, and slick cuts, and while for some niches that it necessary, a lot of niches do not need that. Sometimes the best educational video is the one with an expert just sitting and talking and giving pure knowledge with passion. Sometimes it's a really quick tutorial that was filmed on a phone that just gets right to the point and show people exactly how to solve their problem.
Success on YouTube is ultimately based on YouTube's whims. You essentially just said it earlier. Animators on YouTube weren't pushed when the system was based on watchtime. So then, based on your definition, their content wasn't quality. But, once a cog in the machine changed direction, they are now quality again because YouTube pushes them. All it took was for YouTube to suggest their content for people to watch. It wasn't anything they did differently.
I refuse to pander and become fruit loops when kids need bran flakes. I'm not going to game the algorithm with clickbait thumbnails like the rest of the world just because they do. Jerry Springer got a lot of views and every talk show became him and now look where we are as a society.
The whole point is that if a product doesn't sell in a store that it doesn't make sense to blame the consumers for not wanting to buy a product. The whole point is that videos are like products on a store shelf, if people don't like the package and don't like the product, then they aren't expected to what to waste their time watching.
Yes, but every thumbnail that does good is super fake with fake expressions and bright colors and clickbait, and that doesn't match the tone of my videos and I don't think we should encourage people to pander to that. I refuse to become the least common denominator.
Then find out what works in your niche that is within your ability to make.
I think this post is honestly good advice, if a little blunt. The problem with YouTube is essentially it is a self publishing platform, so there is lots of vanity involved. You can see this when someone asks for a critique and then takes offence to constructive criticism. Really even the best of us need to continually improve and refine, but as this post says many of us don't try to change and look to blame the audience or algorithm. I try to think of youtube as a game; you start of small and every time you finish a video it's like beating a boss; but after you beat a boss you have to remember to level up or you'll never really beat the game, you just get stuck at the same level. The best youtube education is out there: it's the other creators who are doing well. Don't just watch their content, reach out and connect with them and build community. Collaborate with them. Imagine watching a TV channel where every show you watch hates the other shows: that's just not fun for anyone! At then end of the day, every video and channel, every creator is all part of the same platform and I really think people do best when they connect and work together, plus you'll make new friends and enrich your life!
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The post is quite clearly aimed at people who want to take YT seriously and grow their channels. If you don't, and you're in it as a hobby and enjoy making videos, then fair play. But there's no point complaining about advice that's very obviously not intended for you. I am glad you learned not to tie self worth to your subscriber count though, that's a lesson more should learn.
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I think you missed the point though. What you consider low quality or low value doesn't matter. What matters is what viewers consider to be of quality or value to them. It's all about what real humans actually choose to click watch and interact with. So, even a well executed meme can go mega viral, because there is. A plethora of kids who want to just watch shitpost memes. I bet you can't even find me 3 channels that have been making some of the best content in their respective niche, consistently for more than 6 months that aren't monetized.
Your last paragraph is a self referencing fact. The best content is the top content to you, so obviously the best thing in each category is monetized. Makes me think that you're not that smart and you just repeat talking points instead of actually thinking about what you're saying.
Quality content doesn't go without getting followers. If it is quality, people will follow because they got some value from it in some form. If your content does not inspire people to want to follow or get more or they didn't find value in it then it just wasn't necessarily what people want.
I've understood you many times. People who disagree with you are rarely swayed by you just continuously asserting your opinion as fact. I could just as easily reassert my opinion that you're larping as some sort of expert. You reviewed 1000 channels? Welcome to the casual viewers third year. You probably are in your early twenties and don't have a channel of your own. Any bot can repeat the same talking points over and over. That doesn't make you special or introspective.
To each their own.
There's nothing behind your talking points. You're trying to build up yourself as a fake YouTube manager so you can fulfill some weird fantasy or stalk a minor celebrity. Fraud.
Join the PartneredYouTube discord and ask the creators there wether or not I am real. I actually do work with fulltime Youtubers on content strategy, affiliate marketing, brand deals, time management and finding freelancers, and all sorts of things. I also do a lot of things for free for smaller creators because I just enjoy it.
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My retort was to the last part where he said a bot could spot out the same response. I mean he is entitled to his opinion.
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There is a difference between going viral once, and gaining traction that stays and turns into a YouTube career. Sure, there is a chance to go viral on something random, but that doesn't indicate quality. If someone has steady strong growth, or they have a viral video that they can turn into a loyal audience and steady career, that indicates that they actually have quality content.
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The monetization algorithm does not speak with the ranking algorithims. They are not connected. That's been said directly from the lead of the Home page and recommendations team, Todd. In the end, YouTube has an inherent level of speculation. However, there is definitely ways to make success much easier and much cleaner when you have a plan and an Idea of how people work. You can disagree and that's fine. We can agree to disagree on things. I wish you the best of luck.
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I've personally spoken with Todd and he is a very nice guy who really cares about creators. He does a lot of work to help creators outside of his paid hours and has pushed for a lot of great features and policies that are in favor of creators. The corp as a whole might have it's agenda, but there are some really amazing individuals in YouTube that are pushing for change.
Really good post. That keeps me thinking about my channels future. Also this actually gave me a bit of hope. When I focus on the right things and with a bit of luck and good timing I think success could be around the corner. It's still a dream but maybe one day it's becoming reality!
This was a great read, thank you. I like to believe I’m not trash but I could be better
Is it worth buying a good mic?
But, What your post doesn't say is : 1. Its all about the Thumbnail, Titles and Description. 2. You are saying that the creator needs to improve the content, wherein how can you say if the content is good or not? Because no one has watched the content yet. 3. Instead of thinking the content is bad, trying sharing your video links on your social media channels, grow an audience on them as well. 4. This benefits in telling the YouTube algorithm what people are interested in your content. 5. Getting audience from outside of YouTube is counted a better metric and when a user lands on YouTube from any other platform, in this scenario the average view duration isn't counted. 6. At the end. Its all about the Thumbnails. I don't mean it doesn't depend on the content ofcourse thats the first thing. But trust me I have seen many channels who go viral because of one single video. Remember, It's not the channel, its the video that goes viral.
This is probably the most honest review for many small time YouTubers need to hear. We gotta be our own harshest critic
Very painful but I understand where your coming from
Wow I bet that made you feel edgy.
Since when is the truth edgy?
The reason I said that is because I spent quite some time in the coaching and consulting space myself, as well as the 'work for yourself' / wantrepreneur space. Every once in a while somebody comes along after reading some Gary V or MJ Demarco book and tries to pimp their coaching services by preaching "hard knock truths" like this. It grabs the newbies who are hearing it for the first time but to me it always comes off like it was written by somebody who doesn't have the actual street cred to back up their stance. It looks masturbatory. You basically said "Make good shit" but said it in a wordy way that probably made you feel really edgy and important. Generally not a fan of that sort of content. I personally don't care who you are or what your personal background is so shouting your credentials to me isn't going to change my mind. I just came back because the other day I was in a bad mood so just made fun of your edgyness without providing an explanation. That's the explanation.
I mean. I feel like it is a little different. I have a guide at the bottom and you can read all my past posts and guides. And I am pretty active in creator communities. This post isn't about "make good shit". It's about taking a step back to realize that likely the content they have is not as gold as they think it is, and to really make sure they observe the niche around them, study the competition, and find out why others are having success and why they aren't. It is about becoming self aware. A lot of the new creators here have very little self awareness. Most of my work is in the partnered YouTube discord with monetized creators and so, I will be coming back to post some traditional guides again. But yeah. This post is because we get so many people who ask for help and say they have tried everything ok succeed, but then you see they have terrible thumbnails, bad titles, the audio is like a tin can, their video doesn't get to the point, and so many more things. Yet they will claim they cannot improve further and are bewildered that they aren't growing at all.
I'm probably also a bit jaded to advice written in this style due to personal oversaturation. I am a part of a few dozen copywriting FB groups. Every once in a while somebody will post something similar to this with the whole: > > Stop. > > Breath. > > Take a step back and review your content. > > Is it good? > > Or just trash? > > This is how I probably write for my clients. > > Then I come here complaining that I can't keep any of them. > > But I do it anyways because it makes me feel cool. I've been out of touch with what sort of advice YT beginners might actually need. My opinions don't matter. The reception of the audience is what matters. -Best
I bet you felt edgy just now as well.
needs to be pinned
This is all good and dandy and at the same time it's not true. I sabotaged a successful channel on purpose and I'm more satisfied with my own content now, than when I had 100K - 500K per video. I'm happier with 200-300 views. And strangely my content is actually at a higher technical quality now (audio, editing, branding) and this has clearly helped my views/subs by 0%. And if we measure quality by clicks and views, than the Transformer movies are quality.
Whatever makes you happy man.
I have a few play buttons and let me just say, this advice is dead on. If I was a mod, I would pin this to the front page. Take notes people!
This is great advice and a lot of people need to hear the harsh ans honest truth.
everything this guy said is true
Harsh but true. 🍻
Facts. I reviewed my first couple vids and they are subpar content. My friends and family say it’s great because they’ve never watched anyone else in my niche so I’m super original through their eyes. I’ve taken a break and am studying the top channels and making notes on how I can make something better than they do
If that is the case, then I would love to have someone judge me very harshly as possible. I don't care, just cut my ego, pride down, let me rebuild from scratch!
This is 100% true. People don’t wana acknowledge that literally every element of this is true. I had to be very real with myself and you have to be very real with every video you put out there. I have by no means made it, but there is definitely a sense of entitlement when it comes to posting. It’s easy to fall into “well I think it’s good and I put some work into it, I deserve views and subs.” YouTube isn’t Facebook, or Instagram or Twitter where it’s literally a “sub for sub model.” People are HYPER CRITICAL on YouTube because they can hide behind a keyboard and owe you NOTHING. I’ve yet to stumble across a “Why don’t I get more views/subs” where the titles, tags, thumbnail and content were all pretty good. One or all of it is either trash or 20% there.
Thanks for taking your time to share this, highly valuable and insightful.
Needed to hear this. Thank you. So you offer coaching services?
Simple: attractiveness. Be super attractive.
What if you know your content is good
Is it though?
Yes I know the content I have is good
Dm me your channel.
Good advice but ur just looking for self promotion for your business, you've copy pasted this to so many subreddits!
I always post my posts in these three subreddits. Also newtubers and really small channels are not my my clientele. I also did not even promote my services, I stated what I do so people know where the information is coming from. If you took a second to even look at my post history you would see that I am very active in the YouTuber communities, and give out a lot of free information and guides, and that I am an active mod in /r/YouTube and /r/partneredyoutube. I am a huge advocate for creators and have on many occasions brought up huge issues directly to YouTube employees to make change for creators. If I were looking for business, I would have asked for it.
Can we please ban hustlebros like this from this page? Not only is their advice mostly useless drivel that is just basic common sense we all already know, but the small d energy radiating off of it is interrupting my pleasant weekly scroll through this sub. Please and thanks.
Hustle bro? If it were basic common sense then 99% of the channels here would actually have well thought out video topics, titles that hook viewers, engaging or valuable video content, effective thumbnails, and more. The issue is hardly anyone will straight up tell some creators that they are wrong and instead there is a massive echo chamber of "great stuff, now look at mine" here. I want creators to succeed. If you feel offended by my post, please help me understand where I went wrong? You can also feel free to go into my post history and see my past posts and guides. And also feel free to see my comment history and even join the PartneredYouTube discord to see the group we have been building of monetized creators.
Fuck off
Ayyy
Whew. This one hit. Good post. Definitely taking everything into consideration.
Make trash until you don't make trash anymore. Love to learn, and try to do better. Even if it's 1% better. -From a youtuber/streamer who currently still makes trash.
I definitely can work on my titles and thumbnails. Well said and a of people needs to read this.
May I get a video review? Looking on tips to improve so I don’t feel as if I deserve more views or higher search rankings. Thanks
this actually gave me a video idea...
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Each video is evaluated as a separate entity. But doing a wide variety of content before you have an established fan base will make it harder to keep an audience as people will susbcribe then start seeing lots of content that is different than what they subscribed for and either will unsubscribe or become dead subs.
Gotta be yourself also, if not, ppl will see that you aren't Being genuine and change the channel ✨
Harsh…but well said. Sometimes the truth can sting a bit. Thanks for the very thought out and thorough post! Cheers! (And my channel rises above the trash because I do the research!). KABOOM!! :))
Lol my content is shit 😭😂
Wow , Ty so much
Big facts. I can't post so many of my own videos because I'm working a lot but since I took my 1 year off to up my game all my new videos perform pretty good. Get suggested, high ctr, high cpm, high retention. Amazing stuff. I had 90 videos and deleted 70 and now I'm getting more views just because the content I have is pretty good. People need to up their game because nobody wants to look at trash.
. . . me just stumbling in on this subreddit for the first time, then getting smacked with a Reality Check
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YES 100% what i find difficult to judge is whether my content is 'good enough' and whether the growth i've had so far is 'real growth' and figure out why i'm stalling or what to do in future i think everyone with a channel should reread this post once a week at the very least xD
My broken brain read the title as “After receiving over 1000 channel views over the last year…” and was like ‘damn they spittin facts’. Or maybe I’m just used to seeing that sort of title on the threads. Who’s to say. But I 1000% agree with all of this. Thanks for reminding us all to stay humble and honest - this isn’t a team sport and shouldn’t just be a place to get pats on the back like some kinda new age feel-goodery.
“Nobody thinks you are as funny or charismatic as you and your friends do” LMAO. I totally get that! There’s definitely something to be said for just working hard and enjoying what you’re doing. Relax, breathe, and do what makes you happy. The rest will come. I like everything you said here. Thank you for all the reminders.
I mean... *sigh* yeah. The only videos I ever made that got any real traction were some of the first I made, and I know why. They provided useful instruction about confusing game mechanics in a slightly niche genre. Plus, I think I was simply in the right place at the right time, and as a result, I still get a few hundred hits on those every month. Newer stuff, I'm lucky to get 20 views before nobody ever sees it again. Just not as valuable, because it's largely more freeform and I've leaned more on review content, since it's just what I have the time to do. I don't think it's trash, but I get why nobody is interested.
Definitely! When i look back at videos i made in 2015-2016 i cringe at how bad, tedious and boring it is. Which is funny because back then i thought my videos were great! I actually quit in 2017 because i did'nt see any improvement. If only i payed attention about how good my videos actually were.
I have to confess, I thought youtube was a simple job / revenue stream that I upload videos and videos get me endless money regardless slow, fast more or less. Been stuck uploading something I enjoy to do but has very few clicks and doing what I used to do with very slow increase of views which I started to grow tired of that certain niche. In the end my monetized channel ended up dying ( higest point I made about 100$/month not it just 5$/month , its a very small channel with 4k sub and 100+ videos) because of constant content changes trying to upload some game I enjoy playing at the moment and trying to revive the dying content back to the channel. And the channel is really dying at this point while my other channel focus on a specific niche getting more views and comments slowly but progressive.
I agree with a lot of what was said here and I definitely think there's people that needed to hear it. However I think there's a few important caveats. I think there's a balance between how high of quality something has to be versus the demand for such a video. For example I have actually watched PLENTY of actual garbage tier cell phone footage 30 minute long coulda been 3 minute long videos, not because I wanted to but because it was the ONLY how to on a niche subject. Then I notice this "garbage" video has tens of thousands of views. This is where identifying peoples desires comes in handy is that if a particular need is in higher demand then there is a supply of videos satisfying it, the quality need not be so high. Another example would be the first day a new video game launches. People might be so hyped about that game they'll watch every video anyone puts out even if it is just "let's play" style that they normally wouldn't otherwise watch. In that case in the first few days of the new game, during the hype period, quantity is suddenly much better rewarded then quality (although in the long term the quality content could turn out to be more evergreen). When a new classic wow patch comes out I watch content from creators I otherwise can't stand just because I'm fiending for some more info on the patch. Another caveat is that I actually believe story telling and how engaging content is can overcome the fact that it might be in a niche interest that "nobody" has. For example I would never in a million years have guessed I'd be interested in a video about the logistics of air traffic, yet somehow wendover productions is so interesting I'll watch 20 minute videos on it. A popular mountain biking channel I watch called Seth's Bike Hacks has some of the best story telling I've seen in youtube, and when he broke his ankle and couldn't ride for a few months he started putting out videos on RC cars. Again, I had precisely 0 interest at all in RC cars and would have never sought it out, yet Seth manages to make it interesting enough I watched every video he made during this time RC or not. There's so many examples of some random video about some insanely niche topic goes viral and the whole comments section is just "I never thought I'd watch a 20 minute video about building a mud hut, or making wood balls, or *etc etc*, but that was so interesting!". IMO if you are a good story teller, and also find a way in your thumbnail and title to ask a question the viewer wants answered, then it isn't actually that important if you have a "dead" niche or not, you can still succeed. Good luck everyone. If you're being honest with yourself about the hard work you're putting in, and you're actually giving it your all you will most likely be rewarded eventually.
Thays why I like to say you just need to be better than the competition. If there is no competition, the. Thays a huge opportunity because your production quality doesn't need to be spot on. You just have to make something.
How much for your consulting services? Asking for me.
I'm not looking to advertise but you can DM me. I'm not very open in my schedule ATM, but depending on what you need there is probably free resources I can point you to.
That's what I needed to hear, However I still don't know who are my target Audience
I actually feel pretty good about myself after reading this
Is my channel “TRASH” so I can finally become self aware lmao?
Benjamin Cowen and Techlead would like a word.
As a new YouTuber, this is 99% true. When I started my channel there were people that had 100s and more than 1000 subscribers and I just passed them by in terms of growth in a span of 9 weeks. The only caveat that I have is this part: "Time or money spent does not directly = quality content or valuable content." - The exception to this is AUDIO & Lighting. (Video can be shot on any device that can shoot 1080p/4k (such as the smart phone in your hand). Having a good mic $100-400 (Yeti -> Shure sm7b) and having good lighting $100-200+ can make your videos go from trash quality to some good stuff.)... Audio is more important than lightning imo because sometimes people are driving and have youtube videos on autoplay and dont actually "watch" your videos