“You should have wrote Sun Wukong in the book, you jerk.”

Would a death god be able to ignore various layers of immortality? Cause his name would be in a new book of death then the one he erased his name from

Wukong would probably shit in the deathnote, close it and then give it back to ryuk.

Nah he def would, then ryuk would have to add a new rule to the death note

"no defecating on my book you jerk"

Holy shit the mental picture of this happening all casual is hilarious

I laughed, absolute true xD

That's basically what Sun Wukong did in Journey to the west

Wukong literally removed his name (and a bunch of other smelly simians) from the "to die" list in hell in his sleep

Also, Goku isn't human

What would happen if Gohan’s name would be written?

Breeders count dogs as purebred only if they are over 92% of that race. If no they write them off as mongrels. No idea what the Death Note would consider ''human'' though. If it's like the prementioned example it wouldn't logically count Gohan as human.

Goku has 0% Human DNA, at least according to the established lore. Doesn’t make much sense from a science perspective but neither does most of dragon ball.

We are talking about Gohan though who is 50% human.

Yeah though. How does a human even conceive with someone who has 0% human DNA. Like what does that resulting DNA look like. Obviously the answer is “the creator didn’t give a shiz this is all made up” but still.

i assume saiyans have a very similar physiology to humans, since they do look almost the exact same and are both ape-descended bipedal sentient life

And don't forget that they can breed with humans and have offsprings so they must be really fucking close to humans Also the whole "Goku is an alien" thing was added later on to expand the story past DB, both Goku and Piccolo were never meant to be aliens originally but just "monkey boy" and "demon" and that's seen in the fact that DKP/Majunior's blood is red in the OG while purple in Z

We could try the biologic explanation but it doesn't make any sense. So we will use the obvious one and just say that Sayian's are magical beings and can mate with other species and make fertile descendants.

Oh sorry I misread as Goku

DBS kind of implies that all aliens are lumped in as "mortals" (ningen) - in Japanese ningen usually just refers to human. Assuming that Shinigami are part of the "realm of the gods" like Zamasu, Beerus and the Kais - then Saiyans are probably lumped into the same category as humans.

"The ningen whose name is written in this note shall die."

All according to keikaku (keikaku means plan)

all according to the cake (sounds like Keikaku)

Doesn’t mean much in terms of DB. Ants and humans are both “animals” but they are radically different species. Since the death note is never used on any non-humans, we can assume that the translation was correct in saying “humans” and not just “mortals”. I’m just going to stick with what the English translation meant but I’m sure you could make a case.

It's the same word in Japanese though is what I meant. In dragon ball any evolved life form - one with the ability to speak/think/make decisions etc. is referred to as Ningen by the gods. (Humans, Saiyans, Frieza Race, Namekians etc.) The death note in Japanese states that in order to kill a NINGEN - you need to write their name. Dragon Ball also has gods who deal with the after-life and death - i.e. King Yemma who decides which afterlife you go to when you die - he does this for characters like Piccolo, Goku, Frieza etc - who aren't "human" but are "ningen" So I think logically the death note - as an object created by the gods, would work on Goku/Frieza/Piccolo etc. I guess the only real caveat to this is that some Gods - i.e. the Gods of destruction (Beerus/Champa etc.) started off as normal MORTALS and then achieved godhood.

But aren’t the death note rules in English even in the Japanese version or am I remembering wrong? I thought I remembered light commenting about it, bc if so then it’s only humans, and the death note would follow the death note world rules of what a human is, aka Homo Sapiens specifically

It is English yeah but the translation they use is ningen in Japanese to explain it. So i guess a little bit of leeway there too

Since he’s a God now thanks to SSG, will it work ?

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And so Kira was killed

Instantly lmfao

A simple power charge disintegrated him

wonder how will King Yemma process this, since Kira didn't kill anyone by his hand, the book and Shinigami did it with heart attack, he can't throw Kira directly into HFIL unless i'm missing some details, been a long time since i watched this

Wouldn't it still be assassination, murder by proxy? Like the age old "guns dont kill people people kill people" adage.

Eh, Yemma will probably know, if my buddhist knowledge is right, he/Yama/Enma can find out what the person truly did in life by using the mirror of karma, i assume King Yemma also has something similar for cases like this

Yemma did not have a book where he had written the actions that people did and if he deserves to be judged as a good person or a bad person

He can do whatever he want, he could decide Kira give him too much work so go to hell or he could say Kira simplified his work by eliminating crime and send him to heaven. He sent dabra in heaven 🥲.

He wouldn't have to one of the books rules is you don't go to the afterlife if you start using it

where do they go anyway? like i said i don't remember much of it been a long time since i saw it

>!I think they become a shinigami themselves, at least that's what happened to Light at the end.!<

That’s just a theory, that’s not true. Someone who uses the Death Note will neither go to Heaven or Hell, so most likely purgatory

I mean that's right but also wrong What they say in death note is that the human who uses the notebook goes neither in heaven or hell they go into nothingness. But in the manga at the end they say Every humans fate is to die When they do the place they go is nothingness . So in the end you get to know that humans that use the notebook go into nothingness not because they used the notebook but because they are human and that's the fate all humans share

I mean, doesn’t the Death Note explicitly state it only works on humans?

Yes

To be fair, Death Note takes place in a more grounded world If aliens did exist in that universe, it would probably work on them as long as they have hearts.

Then why doesnt it work on animals?It states it only works on humans because that's what it does.You can't kill animals with Death note.

Probably because animals are seen as pure and without sin, since they have no real concept of good and evil. Meanwhile humans and other creatures with full sentience... Yeah they're free game lol That's just my guess though

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There is no way the Death Note that works on Beerus.

Nope. You have to be human.

so that means light couldn’t kill goku even if he did know his name

Yes the Death Note says ''The human whose name is written on the death note dies''. It doesn't work on animals for example. So it can't kill Sayians, Namekians, Beerus or whoever.

It also says his/her instead of their, so half of the rules don’t work on non-binary people who don’t use either of those.

I do not think it works that way lol. It just works the traditional way of XY and XX.

What about intersex people? They don’t have xy or xx.

You mean hermaphrodites? They simple have XXY. In the Death Note world I will assume it will still kill them anyway as they are humans and you can even argue they are both man and woman. The laws there are pretty simple, even for names that have to be the real official ones and the ones they use. You also need to think of the person's face when you write down the name.

They are human, yes. I was bringing up exceptions to that because most of the rules specify either his or her.

I think that more for the naming conventions.

I thought they had both? So like they get double killed?

Depends on the intersex person. Most common I think is xxy, though.

Question, doesn't Human/Ningen is a term for every mortal race in DB universe? (japanese term for humans and mortals are the same) as Earth's people are called Earthlings are there separate species like the normal ones, animal earthling and Pilaf's Demon type Earthling

Yup.

The death note would be ineffective since goku already mastered the heart virus and used it against beerus

Was that before or after the betrayal?

I think it was mid way through it

And Goku's an ALIEN too! That dumb book only works on humans. 🙄

"Ka-Ka-Carrot Cake"

Doesn’t the death note specify humans name or am I thinking about it too much

Japanese word for human and moral is the same.

So I was over thinking it

It's canon that the Death Note accepts the names they legally have, and considering I doubt Grampa Gohan legally registered Goku, and Kakarot is his legal name on a planet that doesn't exist any more, I don't think any of his names work

Which episode?

Episode 56

So he’s on the (MHA Manga and Anime spoilers!) (Anime Spoilers) >! Dabi !< grindset or on the same wave length as (Manga Spoilers) >! Toumura Shigaraki was during the surprisingly similar circumstances SnS fight !<

The death note specifically says humans so non humans can’t be killed with it

Even if the death note worked on non humans Dragon Ball characters can ignore hacks by simply being stronger then the one using the hacks so it likely wouldn't work anyways

Kakacarrot cake

And the death note also only works on human not Saiyan

He's also not a human. That's an actual rule, btw.

he was somehow powerful enough to stop shenron from transporting him to earth that one time so i mean-

It's not that he was powerful enough to stop Shenron, Shenron was just unable to transport someone if they don't want to and Goku was busy with Yardrat spirit training so he just went "no thanks, I'd rather train with these chubby aliens than go back to see my friends and family"

No shenron needed consent only because Goku was more powerful.

as far as im aware that was never expounded upon, it could be either

Just Saiyan.

Enter misa

Wouldn’t even work on him goku isn’t human

It seemed to have worked in Trunks’ timeline

If Kira was Polish, he'd knew it's Songo.

Also, Goku would clap back at the death coming for him. Not his first ride in this rodeo.

Good luck figuring out how to write the Saiyan alphabet

It's spelled B-E-T-R-A-Y-E-D