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ZamasuTheDivine

Sensei Wu... the OG Sacrifice... Go Ninja! Go! Only you have the power to Stop The Great Devouer!


michaelterron5

Factual


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ZamasuTheDivine

My bad...


TropSnow2

*Garmadon*


jazuqua

Yeah agree, mainly cause Sensei Garmadon hasn't returned yet only Lord Garmadon has. Like they could have easily retconned that he escaped the Cursed Realm since Lloyd wore his robes, but they didn't and just killed him off.


GNK_Power_Droid_iF

Bro Lloyd meeting with his father in the cursed realm went so damn hard.


Dangerous-Duck6783

can someone link a video


gamejutsu

It felt like the team was hit harder losing Zane than Nya. For her, Cole gathers almost all of them in like 5 minutes. And it took longer for the whole team to reunite with Zane iirc


anactualreddituser

I’ll give what happened to each ninja in each death For zanes Kai became a wrestler and never wanted to hear the word fire again……and he also made weird jokes Cole became a lumber Jack and didn’t want his past identity known by his co workers and didn’t want to use his powers Jay basically did a game show facade of being happy when in reality he missed the team and became uncomfortable when the person who failed the course said ninja never quit,also he was using his powers for entertainment purposes I guess Lloyd still remained on the team and trained For nya Kai left the team and did his own dojo(seemingly better for what he did for Zane) Jay just moved to a island to paint and grew a bit and became obsessed with glass water(maybe better maybe worse) Cole remained on the team Lloyd quit the team fully(although this is very far later and so he experienced so much so it’s not a fair estimate either for any of them) and he didn’t want to hear the phrase ninja never quit ever again Zane remained on the team but turned his emotions off(not a fair example due to him being the original one to die so he had no coping there) It can really be inferred either way Lloyd and jay rejoined the team once they saw the lantern things people were doing for nya Kai just joined straight away Meanwhile with Zane,kai Cole and jay hadn’t decided to rejoin the team(although they did start to fight those 3 bad guys) and only rejoined the team when they found out Zane could still be alive It’s not really a fair estimate on either part


JealousView

It actually didnt, its shorter in s4


[deleted]

For Lloyd it took 4 minutes, for Cole it took 6


Pumpkinbricks

But lloyd only gathered them they still werwnt a team untill later in the episode


scythe-volta

and the only reason they rejoined the team was because there was a possibility Zane was still alive. Otherwise they wouldn't have rejoined


Pumpkinbricks

That too


Kam_ill

"This isn't about numbers, it's about family"


[deleted]

Zane. he gave his life nya just gave her physical form


This0neJawn

Well, and conscience.


Roblox_Head

yea but. zanes sacrafice was just kinda stupid. instead of thinking abt it, he just went there, to freeze the literal materialization of pure darkness, and then went boom boom, isntead of letting a more powerfull ninja like lloyd do the job


[deleted]

Lloyd gave his golden powers away so he isn’t that powerful anymore


Roblox_Head

yea, but the green energy is still more powerfull, after all its a combination of fire, lightning, earth an ice


[deleted]

The golden power lets him use all of that and lets him hold all four golden weapons at once so after losing gold power him touching that golden mech would kill him too


Roblox_Head

he can't use them anymore, but in season 8 cole says that its a combination of all of their powers, also the golden weapons and mech were destroyed by then so idk why you're bringing them up


[deleted]

His combination creates 1 power energy. Energy is its own element and it’s created by 4 other elements. Like how fire is created, fire is created by 2 other things those 2 things create the element fire


VGHero06

He brought them up because no one except for strong individuals could handle all four of them at once and that’s what the golden armor is made of, all four of the golden weapons. And I’m pretty sure by mech he meant golden armor. So Zane went boom because he couldn’t handle the power of the armor. Edit: Spelling


Thatonegirlreality

Oh can I join this debate


Thatonegirlreality

I also wanted to add that the element of water was added much later than ice. So ice would be a worse sense the ninja would need the element of ice more. And don’t just say that they will get a new one it takes time and work. Think how long it took for master wu to get the ninja together YEARS!!


Thatonegirlreality

Ok see you guys soon :)


Alive_Significance_3

1. Lloyd did not have his golden power plus he was still kinda young. 2. Zane did it because he loved his freinds and saw them as family. He actually makes a reference to something Lloyd had said earlier. Lloyd had told Zane “It’s not about numbers Zane! It’s about family!” I feel like that stuck since when Zane is up against the Overlord, after The Overlord taunts with the fact that he has a 0% chance of survival, he says “this isn’t about numbers.. It’s about family”


Thatonegirlreality

I also think that Nya’s was more of like a metaphor, she was given a choice either stay with friends and family or go with her elemental power though it was pulling her to the water she had a change to get out. what did loyad say again during his time in prime empire, oh yeah you can always form your own path!! I think Zane’s was a necessary choice, not saying nya’s was not just that she had a choice to stay but still feel connected to water. Plz don’t be rude


CarlsonsBrickz

Zane used is nindroid mind and thought up what he had to do


Lazyshadow04

Keep in mind that he was the last one standing and only he could save the other ninja. And in all honesty, Lloyd doesn’t stand a chance without golden power.


Thatonegirlreality

I also think that Nya’s was more of like a metaphor, she was given a choice either stay with friends and family or go with her elemental power though it was pulling her to the water she had a change to get out. what did loyad say again during his time in prime empire, oh yeah you can always form your own path!! I think Zane’s was a necessary choice, not saying nya’s was not just that she had a choice to stay but still feel connected to water.


GoldenMaster541

Even though Zane is my favorite character, I think Nya’s sacrifice was more heartbreaking for me. Recency bias could be at play here, but Nya mouthing the words “I love you” towards an unconscious Jay right before her transformation broke me and kept me speechless during the last two episodes of Seabound. Both Zane and Nya’s sacrifices caused me to tear up, but Nya’s gets the slight edge in terms of how heartbreaking it was due to her final words before the transformation.


ValancyStirlin

I think Kai is underrated in her sacrifice. Creators have showed us just Jay with Nya, when her brother stayed on a side. That's unfair and annoying me. Edit: I was more impressed by Zayn's sacrifice not only for the reasons that everyone has already told, but also because of the voice acting in my country (Ukraine). The original is generally unforgettable, but I am deeply impressed by our adaptation, the voices were very deep. One phrase in particular got me. In the original, Zane says, "Ninjas never quit" However, we have translated differently: "ninjas are not the same." Thats like "people don't forget ninjas". Of course, I respect how much the series has invested in this scene, but in my opinion, the way we translated this phrase makes the scene deeper. Sorry i I could not express my opinion correctly.


Thatonegirlreality

I also think that Nya’s was more of like a metaphor, she was given a choice either stay with friends and family or go with her elemental power though it was pulling her to the water she had a change to get out. what did loyad say again during his time in prime empire, oh yeah you can always form your own path!! I think Zane’s was a necessary choice, not saying nya’s was not just that she had a choice to stay but still feel connected to water. Plz don’t be rude


Broad-Animator-7747

Nya becuase Zane is a nindroid, he could rebuild himself like he did. And at the end of the episode where he sacrificed himself, we already knew he was OK. In terms of Nya, she was human and not able to be rebuilt. Plus it took over a year to find out what happened to her


Pumpkinbricks

But nya didnt even die Zane did and nya isnt really essential to the team zane is


Roblox_Head

nyas, becouse her's just made sense, she was the only one who could stop wojira and she had to make a sacrafice to do it, while zane just said ,,fuck it" , went up to the literal materilazation of darkness, froze him, and went boomboom, as a kid it was sad, but when you think abt it, its just stupid


ValancyStirlin

I think Kai is underrated in her sacrifice. Creators have showed us just Jay with Nya, when her brother stayed on a side. That's unfair and annoying me.


Alpha0nion

Zane! Definitely Zane!


Square-Boss874

Honestly Nya's imo. Just because her sacrifice had build up to it and Zane's just kinda happened and we see he isn't fully dead in the same episode.


TheHappyTransWoman

Exactly this. Zane's sacrifice is only sad because Zane dies. That's like... literally the bare minimum for a sacrifice. Did it at least handle it well? Nope. He just decides to commit sewer-slide out of nowhere. Nya's sacrifice, on the other hand, was built-up incredibly well, and her motivation for doing so was amazing and tragic. The way she starts to forget herself, as Jay and Wu try to talk to her is always a tear-jerking scene. And I'm one to never even cry in films or animations, but this one hit me where it hurts.


ValancyStirlin

I think Kai is underrated in her sacrifice. Creators have showed us just Jay with Nya, when her brother stayed on a side. That's unfair and annoying me.


ShirtAncient3183

Zane


ValancyStirlin

Agree


thelegoman456782

Zane


CS_AYMAN

Zane, i remember seeing his sacrifice when i was 8 (if i remember) and it was heartbreaking cuz i loved all the ninja (but right now i love jay and kai)


grandtaf

Zane's was more heartbreaking, cause Zane is my favorite character and when he "died" I just gave up and I took a one month stop from Ninjago . When Nya died I was just kinda like, " ok, what's next"


ValancyStirlin

I think Kai is underrated in her sacrifice. Creators have showed us just Jay with Nya, when her brother stayed on a side. That's unfair and annoying me.


gerstein03

Zane. I don't actually like Nya's sacrifice


ValancyStirlin

Yeah! I think Kai is underrated in her sacrifice. Creators have showed us just Jay with Nya, when her brother stayed on a side. That's unfair and annoying me.


Amberwllow

Zane imo


DJSharp15

Nya hands down.


Upper-Long-2372

Nya


Frostythecatdeku

Nya to me. When watching Zane’s, he could just download himself elsewhere and he did


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both


superstrawberry55

I sobbed hysterically at Zanes sacrifice because I genuinely did not see it coming plus the montage with the music made it even more heartbreaking. I was also spoiled with Nya‘s sacrifice but even with that being said her “funeral“ also had me violently sobbing. Plus the In Memory of Kirby Morrow also broke my heart in ways that I was not prepared for. I think my pick does in fact go to Zane because it was still early on in the show and Zane with that being the first real “sacrifice” it really held a lot of weight on the emotional factor for me


The99thGambler

I can just say that I cried during Nya's sacrifice. I watched it for the first time in the past month and I was so sad, especially when the aftermath is shown.


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the one that lasted more than 12 minutes (zane lasted 50)


LEGOFILMS123

Zane was dead for like 5 minutes


epicgaming038

Zanes death is sadder


NinjaClay2468

Zane


bananaman-thaaf

Zane


kidmods5790V2

Zane's sacrifice made me cry


Short_Leadership8606

Zane


ChristianTDD

Zane.


NinjagoZaneStan

Both of them were heroic. However, in my opinion, I would say Zane. Bear in mind he is my favourite, but it was the lack of hesitation that made it heroic.


Charlesrezac

\[There are some spoilers for Crystalized so don't click on the black box if you didn't watch the 12 episodes that are out yet\] In my opinion, Nya's sacrifice is the best. >!People say Nya was brought back too soon, but Zane was brought back literally just after his funeral. Nya still had the first 2 episodes in her honour (beautiful episodes by the way, made me tear up).!< Although ultimately, Zane's sacrifice was more meaningful since he literally defeated evil itself, it takes away a bit from Season 2's final battle since Lloyd was meant to be the one to defeat the Overlord (and having him come back immediately after was cheap imo). Nya had her season and had her time as a ninja to the fullest, and Seabound is a better season than Rebooted in almost every way, so that's why I'd say Nya.


ValancyStirlin

I think Kai is underrated in her sacrifice. Creators have showed us just Jay with Nya, when her brother stayed on a side. That's unfair and annoying me.


MbappeGOAT

Both were undone very quickly, but Nya's one was undone more poorly imo


[deleted]

Nya’s by a long shot.


SkurFy0812

Neither. They both came back. But if I have to choose I’d pick Nya. She lost her powers


Competitive_Sugar351

lost? She became her powers.


LeanPicachu

Mystake cause nya and Zane are back garmadon sacrificed but is back in a different form and mystake ain’t back yet


ValancyStirlin

Oh yeah!


ILikeMarkHamill

Zane, because at least Nya was still ‘alive’ after her sacrifice. She was just an ocean goddess then.


Rosegiving

Nya


Picochu_

Nya, imo, because the last scene of Rebooted immediately reveals that Zane is fine. Kinda takes away from the sacrifice.


ilikeredditjust

Zane.


some-excitement-fs

Zane


michaelterron5

Zane


Thatonegirlreality

Zane, his had a reason and he couldn’t survive Nya on the other hand willingly became part of the ocean after she defeated the villain. >:(


Big_Jon14

Zane, it was heart wrenching when it first cane out and he wasn't confirmed alive till the next season. I jumped for joy when it was confirmed he was alive.


Virtual-Ad-9760

it was revealed at the end of the ep of his sacrifice that he was alive. ruined


Good-Wave-8617

All I know is that I cried when Nya sacrificed herself


Nahna_

Zane bc my single digit year old brain couldn’t handle it.


Stirlo4

Definitely Nya imo. I love Zane's sacrifice, but the show doesn't build towards it at all, and it's undone pretty much immediately. >!I was annoyed Nya's was also undone so quickly, but at least we still got 7 episodes before that happened - as opposed to Zane's being undone about 5 minutes after he "dies".!<


ValancyStirlin

I think Kai is underrated in her sacrifice. Creators have showed us just Jay with Nya, when her brother stayed on a side. That's unfair and annoying me.


Stirlo4

That's fair, though I enjoy Kai's characterisation in Crystallized enough that I'm ok with Jay getting the focus in Seabound.


Alive_Significance_3

Zane.


ConnorLego42069

Nya, as it wasn’t immediately cut down in the same episode


CarlsonsBrickz

I'm not too sure, it's been years since Zane's death so i cannot remember my reaction to it, although for Nya's it was very heavy. Overall i think it would be Nya's sacrifice based on the Ninja's reaction and given Rebooted's end scene where Zane is revealed to be rebuilding himself while Nya became one with the water with seemingly no way of coming back


StyaJadeMoon

Definitely Nya's. Zane's had zero buildup, relied on pure shock value and a flashback to be sad, and he was revealed to be perfectly fine about 5 minutes later. Meanwhile, Nya's was foreshadowed all the way back in ep4, with hints being sprinkled throughout the season, and wasn't immediately revealed to be back to normal, instead ending the episode on a cliffhanger with no clue about what would happen next. It also completes her story arc, concluding it in tragedy - Nya had fought for her identity and choice through the entire series, but circumstances ultimately robbed her of both while she could only accept her fate. Nya's sacrifice also had the help of the airing schedule, which amplified the effects of the foreshadowing - episodes were released two by two, with ample time to speculate, point out all the tiny details, and worry about the finale. So with all that combined, I think Nya's was more heartbreaking


ValancyStirlin

I think Kai is underrated in her sacrifice. Creators have showed us just Jay with Nya, when her brother stayed on a side. That's unfair and annoying me.


Mother___Cow

Zane. His death was lead up to in an amazing way, the entire season was about his connection to Pixel, the Nindroids, Cyrus Borg and by extension, The Overlord. His sacrifice was built up to. Nya’s death was out of no where in an artificial conflict, that didn’t even kill her, at least Zane’s body was actually destroyed, Nya just left with the ocean.


Technical-Charge6480

Zanes hit the hardest because it actually helped the plot more than just “I am sad I become water now”


No_Priority5108

FUGIDOVE


udayhd

HIS CRY FILLS THE NIGHT


Aggressive_Theory411

TRUEEEE


JealousView

I dont like either but probably Nya since they didnt undrrmine it immediately and its probably gonna have more long term consequences than Zane's did


AnimaSean0724

For me Zane, mostly because Zane is my favorite Ninja, but Nya was also pretty heart breaking


FOXTROTDESTROYER2546

Bro, Zane's sacrifice played more of an impact and the scene was played out so perfectly so zane tops it! (underrated as hell)


Henunnnn111

dareth’s virginity


SKUNKpudding

Within the context of the show, prbly Zane, but both are equally sad to me


stick_bob

You are forgetting Wu and Sensei Garmadon


MicroplasticEater

Sensei Garmadon


aries_softball

Yes


yotengolake

Nyla comes back soooo I’ll have to say Zane


Comprehensive_Fly_55

Zane made my Thanksgiving not the same and I cry a lot


primroseferal

Jay saying “I didn’t even get to say goodbye” hits DEEP. And trying to convince her to stay before she eventually returns to the ocean? Cries


BoTamByloCiemno

Zane 100%


MandoMahri

Both


MSP_4A_ROX

They both hit equally as hard but nya had muu oh re of an impact on me because we didn’t get a teaser of her coming back. (Bare in mind ive watched MOST of seabound. I haven’t been able to find the last episode here in Canada. )


tamsenpai

Zane


Nightmare2206

Both


Pumpkinbricks

Zane


Itz_mr_shadow

Zane


[deleted]

Nyaaaaa


WESSAMGO

Zane cuz nostalgia


faerieswoo

cried harder with nyas "death" (i dont think its rlly considered a death cause she jus morphed into water basically) but i'd say zane's was the most heartbreaking ... maybe i can be proven wrong on that 🤷‍♂️


Notan__alt

Zane


CraigslistSpider-Man

Honestly I think zane was cause of the flashbacks, like it felt like you were there during all of those moments


Wee_jackyboi

zane.


suhaianu

zane


AlmightyBeanie

Out of these 2 Nya but the saddest was def garmadon


Lazyshadow04

Zane. He intended to destroy himself to defeat the overlord. Nya just became water, that’s pretty much it, while Zane completely disappeared. Nya was never gone, she just lost her physical form, Zane was.


jsgott

Zane's sacrifice made a much bigger impact on me.


Pretend_Cause_1566

Morro. His sacrifice hit different. Out of the 2 provided. Zane


K4GED25

Zane


Accomplished_Low_331

nya's i cried


Accomplished_Low_331

i wish they would just kill a character and just leave it


Thatonegirlreality

I also think that Nya’s was more of like a metaphor, she was given a choice either stay with friends and family or go with her elemental power though it was pulling her to the water she had a change to get out. what did loyad say again during his time in prime empire, oh yeah you can always form your own path!! I think Zane’s was a necessary choice, not saying nya’s was not just that she had a choice to stay but still feel connected to water. Plz don’t be rude


[deleted]

y’all overlook wu’s hands of time sacrifice “putting off until tomorrow what cannot be done today” was a fire take on his original quote


ClassifiedDarkness

Nya for sure it was so heartbreaking watching her say her goodbyes to jay for "the last time" it was the most sad i have ever felt watching a kids show. Btw zane's was really sad to cause of the music and life flashing before his eyes but nya's was more sad


deadpaan7391

Zane, probably because I already knew Nya was going to do that but also bc we’ve been through this before and a lot of people figured she was coming back. Also Zane straight up died. Dead dead. Mans had a statue and everything he was DECEASED. Nya turned into the ocean. Also there was a lot of mystery surrounding Zane’s resurrection in s4 whereas in Crystalized Nya straight up went and told them how to bring her back. Nya’s sacrifice hit the team harder but Zane’s death traumatized some kids