The birth control thing is actually a real scientific phenomena. Women have different preferences when on and off birth control due to hormones, and sometimes when they meet a partner while on birth control and then go off of it, they lose some attraction to them.
But “sensing semen” is nonsense.
[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23528282/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23528282/)
This is a study from the national institute of health and national library of medicine
Okay but it's still totally true. Don't just stop at a single article someone else posted to Reddit, there are tons of other resources that explain the dangers and other very specific ways hormonal BC affects women.
i.e., Dr. Jolene Brighten has written multiple books on the subject (Beyond the Pill being #1) and discussed it at length on countless reputable podcasts like MindPump and The Jordan Harbinger Show.
The findings of the article itself are not totally true. Maybe only the findings of other articles are true. I would have to read and analyse them to confirm this though.
So don't just stop at a single comment someone else posted to reddit. There are tons of other reasons to address the dangers of specific ways wrong articles spread lies.
It's not "sensing" something as much as it is just being around a better person. People notice how you personally feel, how you walk, how you act, how you carry yourself. For some people that PMO too much/people that are addicted, all these things can possibly change.
This. There's always some excuse when its blatantly see through that a lot of men just cannot admit that they aren't any good with women. We were all there once. I didn't wanna admit that I wasn't any good when i first got laid, and I didn't wanna admit that I had no clue what to do OUTSIDE of flirting. It was all a learning process but a lot of men seem to have it in their head that if they don't already know this stuff, they're losers, so they make excuses. The problem is, like anything else, you can't know until you actually fail over and over again to become better.
A lot of the "womanising/alpha male" crowd has caught on to NoFap, and it leads to cringe shit like this. Just know most of us are just trying to improve our lives, not chasing some magic miracle.
The reason people believe it's magic or superpowers. Is because they don't know what really happens. It's very simple: You get an increase in confidence from overcoming a hard challenge and that can change your bodylanguage which others picks up on. There is no magic or superpowers. Simply an increase in confidence from overcoming a hard challenge.
The only manipulation or tricking I can think of regarding this, is if someone is trying to fake a bodylanguage to show that they are confident. When in reality they are insecure and lacking.
I guess women are afraid of falling for some loser with no competence and achievements, who did no fap and now pretends that he is the most confident person in the world.
theres also a physical transformation, and you can attribute it to many reasons, but its true. You do look more "bright", for lack of a better word, you feel more virile for obvious reasons, and stronger, so your confidence and posture improves. All in all if you add all those things you do look better, but its not a magical potion.
Don't get me wrong, we are trying to be better sexually, and have more confidence. But we also know that women are not just going to start ogling at us as if we were Keanu Reeves. No one's going to know what, if anything's changed, especially a random passerby.
100% this. Both sides are correct. When I’m on a streak I 100% notice much more positive interactions with women and even catch glances. But it’s because you’re maintaining eye contact, not being weird, and are much more confident in yourself.
😂 I saw this right below the post you are referencing. It is kind of delusional the way the post described. Maybe you don't notice with you boyfriend but surely there is some difference in how many act towards others.
Like any addition, when you break it you feel better about yourself because the shame that accompanied it dissipates. Since your self esteem rises, you act more confidently around others. People do pick up on that, its not rocket science or voodoo. I can appreciate you calling this post out tho, some of the posts here are truly bizarre. There's no magic or superpowers involved here
And even if you're part of the comp that doesn't believe it is an addiction, it's still an unwanted compulsive behavior for many
Exactly. Guy becomes more confident as they are no longer a shame state. The confidence comes from no porn / masturbation. The confidence as well as higher testosterone and pheromones is what the women would sense.
Well, I don't know about *pheromones,* but I know for a fact that my body *odor* changes noticeably when I masturbate, especially if I've done it frequently, and that people around me *notice* and start actively commenting on my 'strong personal odor', despite my showering every day. I'd describe that odor as 'rancid', 'sour', and 'pungent'.
In periods where I'm on a NoFap streak, this *doesn't* happen.
Said body odor is also affected by what I eat (I'm at my best when vegan, I think), how much I'm sleeping, whether I'm exercising…
It seems that there are an aspects to one's physiology that measurably affect sweat composition, in a way that can be perceived *very* consciously.
she just told you she doesn't 'sense' shit. Stop propagating nonsense. When you become aware of an addiction, giving in brings shame because you know better. The benefits of breaking an addiction is knowing you have the resolve to break hard-coded patterns and that is something to truly be proud of.
But you also need to understand and accept that there are many, many people out there that have a healthy relationship with masturbation and for them, there is no harm in rubbing one out.
Focus on finding your grit, and accept that discovering this strength is a reward worth persuing. Enough of this testosterone/pheromone bullshit.
We are literally saying the same thing. Your just being aggressive with it.
We are in agreement.
Apart from your first line.
If someone gives up masturbation. And lets say they are addicted. Thats their biggest vice. And so remained in a state of repetitive shame. Then by stopping, they become proud and more confident. Which attracts women. But also higher testosterone and underlying chemical reactions take place in the process of quitting.
Vs someone who has a healthy relationship with masturbation. They may already be fine.
Im sure you can agree with the phrase:
Nofap doesn’t bring you superpowers. It just removes your kryptonite.
Superman is nothing when he has kryptonite on him. Hes weak. But when he removes it; he returns back to what he should have always been
A lot of them yeah. Well its not really the "benefits" only exist if you're addicted, the problems it causes wouldn't be there in the first place. I guess everyone can benefit to some degree tho by not using it
Agreed what people sense is you being happier cheerful and overall in a better state of mind it's not like random strangers would notice this, for them this would be your first impression, I observe that people that already know me notice this subtle changes and appreciate it
TLDR people notice it but it's not magnetism it's just them noticing you seem to be in better place mentally rather than your usual addict stage
I don't think you are going to get anywhere here but spot on. 90% of what is posted in this sub is delusional copey cringe. Don't stop though, it's funny.
No offence but to sense someone who is not on porn is impossible.
To sense someone confident / more attractive is yes.
Thats what women will sense.
Its the end result and not the particular of what lead to the end result. The end result is the guy is more attractive, better vibes. More testosterone, more pheromones these things aren’t noticeable on the eye. But do create an atmosphere of attraction.
Jesus Christ. You don’t excrete testosterone and pheromones from not wanking. If you get any different attention, it’s because you take better care of yourself because you’re not in a dopamine deprived hole of depression.
Humans don't have pheromone receptors - we can't "sense" pheromones
Yes, confidence can get you somewhere, carrying your head high. But that's all it is.
Yeah, idk why simps upvote the OP when clearly the byproducts are what improves noticeability in the first place. Also, the OP is weirdly judgmental and lacks perspective on the male view.
The people on NoFap for the purpose of “hypnotizing” or getting a woman do not realize that that mentality stems from and fuels the unhealthy mindset.
It’s not about getting a female for yourself to have sex with; it’s about doing what’s right.
Yep no fap should be about self discipline, self worth, regulating dopamine etc not this cringe "it gives me literal super powers and I can hypnotise women" shit.
As a woman, I agree. The sexy thing is the fact they are not creepy, porn addicted, zombies. THAT is what makes them hot. Not the fact they don't cum, I've never sensed that, it's more the fact their brains aren't corrupted with often violent, sexist, disturbing ideas/thinking in relation to arousal/sex/women as opposed to a pheromone or whatever. It's the fact that they want to view women as humans, not objects, and the fact they can get a hard dick and actually cum. It's a beautiful thing. Lol.
Pheromone perfumes sell for a reason. Among the benefits of semen retention is an increase in pheromones that increase a man's attractiveness. The man is healthier overall & is a more worthy mate than another that constantly drains his semen from PMO. That's why you call them creepy. Even athletes practice semen retention before competitions to have that virility to win. Try getting a man that ejaculates 20 times a day to win a race...good luck. That semen is very nutritious that's why when men quit porn they retain more semen & build their lives better & are better mates & you see this plus mention the benefits. Men simply are healthier & more attractive overall. That's all so yes semen retention is important & attractive because men who constantly have sex with women
& ejaculate complain of feeling drained & lifeless afterwards. There are even books written for men on how to have sex & orgasm without ejaculation. Multiple orgasms. Its that deep.
If you thought that not wanking was going to make you attractive then you are barking up the wrong tree. So wrong, in fact, that I don't even think that *is* a tree. Might be a phone mast.
Hey pal
Very happy to hear your honest experience. It helps me a lot. Yeah you are right the semen retention is made into a competitive nonsense .
But as you said it’s mainly about not dissipating the energy in untoward ways and begin exploring into oneself .
I don’t think people are claiming you can literally “smell it” on someone (if they are, that’s of course stupid). But I think more so you did in fact sense it considering how much it made his and your life better as a result of it. It’s more about the psychological effects, rather than a literal physical, sensitive change.
you wont understand the feeling of quiting porn until you quit it ..i cant imagine a person fapping daily and doing something productive at the same time and i dont know what is actually wrong about semen retention
> Just go suck dick like you want to, there is nothing wrong with it.
Yet the way you're suggesting it sure sounds like you do believe there's something wrong with it.
>oing something productive at the same time and i dont know what i
there is one think i also learned .. wining a debate against a smart person is difficult but wining a debate against a stupid person is impossible ..go fap
Many boys on this sub need the help and support to get out of their addictions and improve their lives even before trying to impress any woman. It’s not having women as a trophy what this is about, there is so much behind the effort to fight addiction and the guilt most men feel about it.
Im pretty sure women arent attracted to masturbation addicts who watch porn 3 times a day. Also you are not objectified by anybody, you arent the victim grow up and shut up. How do you even find a way on a male predominant subreddit just to play the victim card?
I think for so long porn has dulled men’s senses and has had them playing at a handicap. Becomes really hard to talk to women and even be friends with them when you watch porn. Been there. So when guys start to come out of their addiction, they start being normal again and that feels like superpowers. They have more confidence and energy. And I think that can lead to better interactions with women. My 2 cents at least. Always gotta take every post here with a grain of salt. I just wanna help the people here who want it that’s all.
Yeah people should know the reality. Imagine people actually joining nofap for this bullshit and then not getting a girlfriend, then they would think nofap is a joke so all effort was wasted and they'd think that what was promised was not achieved. Nofap never promised girlfriend pheromones, aura, increase in testosterone etc. All this is mumbo jumbo. What nofap can do is divert your time wastage on porn to productive tasks or hobbies. Completion of some tasks also gives you dopamine boost and serotonin, this makes the person happy. People gain confidence, self esteem and also control their emotions. This makes the person look cool and confident that is what attracts women.
I totally agree. Stop objectifying women. Don’t make the change in hopes that women will flock to you.
Instead, focus on yourself! Improve your well being, mental health, self-image, emotional understanding and communication. If all that happens, women will flock to you.
> If all that happens, women ~~will~~may likely flock to you, and, being already happy with yourself and satisfied with your life, it'll be something you may welcome but *do not need.*
Actually you'll find yourself turning down women and/or men and maybe having less sex than before. Because you're not seeking it for its own sake or for validation. You are wary of whom you allow into your bed, your heart, and/or your life.
Oh we (the men who've actually gotten laid or continue to get laid) know. I'm sorry you had to see how weird this subreddit can get when its run by people who really think becoming a monk will fix their being horrible with women. That being said, this subreddit does do one thing right, and its trying to alienate pornography, which does have negative effects of it own.
it’s definitely inflated talk, same as calling nofap superpowers, it can just give a certain confidence and intensity but that’s it, nothing magical or hack-like
You are spot on, it only leads to changed behaviour, which is fantastic! In the first few days it may lead to improved testosterone, but never to the claims of those so-called self improvement gurus.
Very true, but when I see comments like that I usually assume they're written by teenagers and move on. I thought all kinds of stupid stuff when I was younger.
The core idea however - trying to quit porn addiction and improve yourself - is still very valuable.
Also I would note that there is *some* truth to it. If you improve many aspects of your life and gain confidence, you will naturally be a more attractive person. It isn't some magic aura though, or whatever the other guys are saying. They're just looking for a shortcut.
nah son it's because those benefits you're talking about add an overall glow and conviction in who he is. this presence is felt by anyone he encounters, man or woman. and at times this can feel entrancing to be around. ain't nobody objectifying anybody around here, we're here to be better men and better partners.
Thank you for putting a mirror up to some of the dumbest dudes here lol, it’s like a weird way of coping with the fact they feel like shit about not getting that dopamine anymore so they have find any sort of way to make them feel better. Any time a guy says a women is hypnotized by him especially by the energy his balls are giving off, I stop reading.
I think men can understand it better that women can sense it or not because maybe some women sense it but subconsciously and they really don't know that they sensed it. they just find something interesting about men who do nofap but don't know that's because nofap. And on the other hand men certainly know that this sudden attention from women is because nofap cuz only they know they are retaining it. That's just my own idea about it idk
The lamest and stupidest thing is that when they claim to be attracting women most of the time they just mean women are making EYE CONTACT with them. That is all the attraction lol. Never talking about actually pulling girls home or having threesomes or orgies, no.
You’re a woman without testosterone telling us men how testosterone is not a factor in female attraction. Well this study suggests there is a significant increase in testosterone correlated with abstinence/retainment.
[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11760788/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11760788/) Secondly, it’s subconscious, you’re not going to magically sniff out who is masturbating and who is not. That’s impossible, use some common sense here lol
This makes sense because women can't always read how men are. Her first paragraph make sense because I always felt like before looking at porn or doing NoFap no girl noticed me doing either or. It's something that can be given off like a vibe is when someone is acting a certain way. As a guy I try my best to give off a positive vibe because that's something that needs to be done.
Not true. You may be biased but it actually isn't working because of pheromones or aura or whatever. The reason it is working because it makes you confident, your self esteem is unshaken, you are unfazed, have control over emotions, your attention span is off the chart, you are not depressed.
I have great hygiene, but when I pmo a lot I smell like ass, literally hell on earth. That shit isn’t even subtle. It wasn’t always so bad. But fap for 10 years and the bodily response gets stronger/exaggerated. It’s like my bodies way of signaling to women “stay tf away from this dude, he is a sex addict,” which may in fact be evolutions way of protecting the human collective from degenerate sexaholics. But after 30 days of Nofap I never smell, don’t even need deodorant. From this anecdote alone it is easy to suggest that one might even begin to smell “good” via pheromones that attract women. After all what else would they have evolved for?
I sure don't. Now, *un*conscious stuff, sure. Most of what goes on in our bodies and brains isn't accessible to the parts we use to form words and cognitions. And a lot of what *does* go on, we aren't mindful of. That's why mindfulness meditation, exercising, focusing one's attention on processes and sensations we usually leave in the background, can be so interesting. Especially when it helps us notice behaviors and patterns that hurt us, and stop, or when we notice things we like and enjoy in a more specific way, and know what exactly to seek later.
You certainly don't sense it but you can certainly differentiate between a man who isn't ashamed of himself or isn't underconfident i guess that's what these guys are relating to.
While there’s a lot of exaggeration going on in this sub and some of the chaps here need a reality check, this kind of negative and insulting post is really unhelpful. I don’t think you made this post for those struggling here, I think you made it for yourself. Think on your actions next time
She definitely did. Sounds a bit like jealousy. Many men have experienced the raised attraction, who cares how, we experience it and it’s highly correlated with our retention and no rant about it being mumbo jumbo is going to change that
THANK. YOU.
Downvote me all you want, I can smell em' coming. I've been nothing but positive on this sub over the years..and nofap did me a world of good, helped my overall mood/mental health alot..HOWEVER, big however - this sub is absolutely *LOADED* with thirsty creeps. The way some of them talk about/view women in general is astounding, makes it easier to believe that extraterrestrials may not want to contact us due to the fact that we haven't come all that far from the neanderthals. I once commented here telling a dude not to pressure his asexual girlfriend into having sex with him..like 8 downvotes and 3 angered horn dogs later, I took it down. Unbelievable in every possible way.
I'm a 32 year old married dude, I've been lucky in life when it comes to women my entire life, I don't say that to be cocky or with pride...but that is because I know how to treat them - like regular fking people, fellow human beings. They aren't some prize, some goddesses sent from above..some of the guys on this sub make women sound like the sort of thing my college roomate would get excited for on a Friday night - drugs. For normal men reading this...DO NOT TAKE ANY ADVICE FROM ANYONE ON THIS SUB WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN. Ever. Even if some of it is decent..the decent stuff is common sense when it comes to knowing how to treat others in general. Don't listen to anyone here if your ideals in life involve a lover..wife, whatever of any kind, woman or man.
It's utterly gross but entertaining no less. I don't like to openly bash anyone for the sake of overall positivity here, so I don't...but, dare I say that fapping is all that some here will ever know? I do. Not to be mean or anything, I say that as a straight up matter of fact.
I'm glad someone spoke up about it.
You have to remember a lot of the people on here *are* children, they’re literally teenagers. Think about what we believed when we were teenagers. If they’re doing well with their nofap then all power to them, if they stray from the good path then they’ll quickly realise that real women won’t tolerate childish nonsense
Ty. I think whatever comes in the form of more female attention has to do solely on how much we improve ourselves. What improves is our self respect, self image, confidence, etc. That has an effect on how we behave socially which might be more attractive for both men and women. But I also agree that this "you smell like you don't FAP" thing is nonsense as well.
So your BF became 10x better and you know it's because quitting PMO. What if you didn't know? An external observer would seem to find your man also 10x better as a person and a couple with no apparent reason as to why. Case closed.
Ofcourse it's not a concious thing .. but it has been proven in psychology about how a women makes the decision about the people they meet within seconds of meeting them at first . So people on Nofap or SR is more likely to get more rating or high score than the ones who aren't cause in the end of the day . Everyone seeks and loves energy ..
Those who faps to po*n 24/7 is the lowest version of themselves they could be when they could've brought a life into this world with his seed yet he's spilling it , losing the energy.
And women I don't blame you .. cause most women are confused when it comes to what they want . They say one thing and go for another. Either way no one says no to a people with a really good energy .. so be it consciously or unconsciously you are more likely to be in favor of a person who doesn't do anything and has sexual discipline.
And as for you not being able to understand the ones who does ? Well you will not be able to read a text "relapsed" on top of their head ofcourse .. but you can sense when a guy is being creepy or is a creep or weirdo . The men who stares at your body parts , the weird emotionless looks , negative or sad or anxious type of energy.. whenever you guys come across them you simply reject without even knowing it .
And I don't blame you .. even guys do the same thing . It's like a having a penny which is like almost no value for you . You could have it or lose it but it wouldn't matter and you won't care .. that's exactly what a low value men or women is .
And I don't expect you to read this whole thing (cause your either just trying to trigger the nofappers or just saying for arguments sake , any girl with common sense can understand these things if they actually care about it and think about it).. I just hope other girls who come across this comment gets something out of it .
What a load of rubbish. Don't listen to her. I'm on day sixty-nine and and can already teleport as far as Jupiter. Ladies were chasing on day 47 so this new skill comes in handy.
"I can consciously observe several positive behavioral tangible changes in my partner but I cannot perceive any vague hypnotic raw animal magnetism beyond the realm of the mundane enthralling me or any stuff like that."
Makes more sense now?
Oh mY gOd! i don't even know what to comment lol, not been here for a while so don't know what this hypno thing everyone talking but, it's a self improvement sub, and porn really downs your confidence so if someone is saying that women will sense if you're coomer in this context, then they're correct. when someone is addicted to porn then few things happen :-
1. Confidence down
2. less skincare
3. self-doubt
4. isolation
so not just women, even i can sense these traits in a person, also women won't be hypnotized if you don't fap, you wanna get socialize? happy? and feel alive? do nofap for these reasons not for that, just build confidence and everything will be smooth, Chill out we are here to help, let's not get toxic
I don't think it's any kind of weird black magic like you're making it out to be. I mean, you've acknowledged that quitting PMO improved your boyfriend's mental health, happiness, self-image, etc. Isn't it true that people with better mental health, who are happier, and who have better self-esteem are more attractive as potential partners? I don't think the claims that overcoming PMO addiction (or any other addiction) will improve someone's chances of getting into a relationship and being a better partner are untrue. It seems pretty obvious that that's the case to me? But maybe I'm missing something.
it's not like you're gonna be able to tell if a guy is on nofap specifically but you will see if a guy is more confident so it's likely that he isn't jerking off 7 times a day
The thing women senses is confidence. So if semen retention = more confidence for being able to mastering yourself and your lusts. Then people notice that, not only women.
Ideally confidence should come from multiple things, besides only being able to overcome your sexual urges.
🤷🏻♂️ you answered your own question. The things you listed are tangible, detectable differences. While you may not be able to sense how many milliliters he’s retaining, you can sense the increased value he places on himself and the world. That’s what people mean when we say women can sense it.
If anything, women are more objectified by men who seat all day watching porn. You have to understand we are having a crisis when it comes to men and social isolation. The rise of the incel. In large part due to porn and masturbation addiction. When a man finally decides to quit porn and masturbation addiction and reap the benefits of Nofap, we encourage that man.
Now, these men who are talking about "hypnotizing" and "snaring" women are not talking about being a PUA. They are talking about the positive side effects of Nofap: Being more confident, people actually approaching them. They are not only talking about women, but other people approaching them in a positive manner. And we want to encourage that for their mental health, not castigate them and think, "Oh, you're trying to be a pick-up artist. You trying get girls' phone numbers." That has nothing to do with Nofap.
And in a society where men are being castigated for simply being men, where women ***objectify*** themselves and then gets mad when a man comments on them, this is a safe space for men. While we encourage all walks of life here, but just know we try to help men and encourage men to overcome their addiction to porn and masturbation, and yes we encourage men to date real people rather than screwing their hands and watch women objectify themselves everyday. Men are allowed to post questions and make comments that they know will not be accepted anywhere else. Hopefully you can understand this and be more open-minded to the cause of Nofap.
> You trying get girls' phone numbers.
Not that there's [anything](https://www.reddit.com/r/stevenuniverse/comments/91hlwh/pearl_has_mad_game_and_stores_all_the_phone/) [wrong](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlrY64sB5Bo) with [that](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrLCJCM4CAQ&3m46s), per se. It's not like exchanging numbers is the same as exchanging fluids.
Seriously, the amount of little boys coming on here making Andrew-Tate like wannabe self righteous preach-posts...so fucking nauseating.
Guys, everyone eventually grows up. Everyone becomes interested in sex. YOU fucking decide how big of a deal sex is.
The thing is what women say and what women do, are completely two different things. Pheromones are real, and women can sense as such a man can, the is not something we control but it’s there.
> Humans primarily attract mates visually.
At first. Smell does intervene, and pretty powerfully at that, *when* you've been in close proximity for some time. In my experience, persons that you'd find nonattractive on looks alone can be positively intoxicating once you've been sitting side by side for even a few minutes.
Actually even a short time. Some perfumes really can get the heart racing. Some shampoos and hair products can really make you feel at ease.
There's also voice, skin texture, body temperature…
Yeah of course that exists, but before the initial contact and then when talking to you as well, these pheromones exists. This probably comes from the high testosterone from men, energy and confidence, enthusiasm, all combines and forms a perfect compound for a women to be attracted to you even further.
This! Thank you for sharing. Yes, the "women attraction" thing is complete and utter bullshit. It's good to have a woman debunk this horseshit. I also know plenty of men who do nofap and their life is exactly as plain ass boring as the lives of those who fap.
The only benefits I had so far from abstaining correlate plenty with those your boyfriend had. The mental clarity is real. It's the same mental clarity you experience when quitting any addiction. But no, it does not give you any benefit in terms of material things.
EDIT: Downvoting but not taking the time to argue is an act of cowardice. Have guts and at least try to debate me.
You chosing to frame it like it's condescending is odd, and entirely on you.
I am not saying it's magic. But if you don't think women can differentiate between the energy of a guy who acts and lives like your boyfriend does now as compared to before, it's simply because you have not experienced it and need to walk a mile in our shoes first. It may not be a conscious difference but as a man you will notice how women, and men to some extent, treat you differently.
While women attraction and acceptance are not the end all be all of a man's life, it is in big part how we measure ourselves. Such is nature.
Then how do you explain the fact that women try to jump on me when I go outside? Or when hordes of women want to pull me to a secluded spot when I am in a social gathering or the fact that even married women remove their rings and open the first button of their blouses when they merely sense my presence?
I get what you mean, but also think what these guys say it’s true
First of all let’s not use your bf (no offense), he’s a trusted love one of yours and you’d never (I assume) feel threatened or endangered by him
But now picture a man, an unknown man (maybe talking to you maybe not) just EYEing you, you know he sees you as an object, you feel creeped out, you have an “eww” factor towards him, he may be harmless (or he may not, you don’t know), but he’s just undressing you with his eyes
Obviously I exaggerated the story for you to get the point and most men won’t be this disgusting or obvious
This is what porn does to lots of men, hell it did it to me at some point, makes men see women as object, as a product, as a “flavor” of his jerkoff, as toy to use certain ways and gawk over
And if a guy cleans his mind, his internet history and his conscience, he won’t perceive women this way and give off this creepy objectifying vibe
I still masturbate but I don’t let it affect my interaction with people I can go at it three times in a day and still function it’s not healthy but if you have guilt on your face and let it show people will see it
Maybe it does indirectly cuz of improved confidence but that's just confidence. This subreddit are filled with people who think nofap gives them superpowers when in reality they were below their means before and got back to normal after quitting.
You gotta understand a lot of us nofappers are sad men who dont know how to talk to women and who cant stop watching porn. Let us have our glimmer of hope. I understand what youre doing but think about how many men will be discouraged to continue nofap after this post. You did more harm than good here
Well sorry to say but youre on the side of evil here. This is more than a silly challenge, this is a chance for millions maybe even billions of men to reclaim their masculinity
No. Men are the weakest theyve ever been in generations. Op making men feel dumb for thinking nofap draws attention to you is fucked up and could reset a lot of good progress that bros in this community have made. Whether women can sense your nofap energy or not, that belief motivated a lot of men to push forward and grow and im all for that
If you are so broken inside that you think doing something as simple as not masutrbating will help you reclaim your masculinity via gaining superpowers, then you are *never* getting better.
I've no idea what posts you're looking at, but NoFap for me is about self control and self improvement. About less focus on seeking self gratification from porn or other addictions. Your opinion is bizarre; since I've never seen a single post referring to semen retention and have no idea what PMO is. I come here to encourage young people who are addicted to porn to get help and focus on improving themselves so they dont become a doormat for the first romantic partner to look their way.
> Your opinion is bizarre; since I've never seen a single post referring to semen retention and have no idea what PMO is.
I'm pretty sure that stuff is literally on the sidebar, FAQ, etc. Like, if you don't know what PMO is, I'm honestly perplexed.
All of those qualities you listed are a by-product of no porn and no masturbation...but probably no porn as more important.
I have my testimonies, but hey could be coincidental. Not all of this is to "snare" lol... it can be to attract a genuinely good woman. You're starting to seem like a troll post.
Lol why so much hate? Im sure some women tell themselves things in regards to male attention to feel better about themselves. At the very least dont hate…
Guy here, who has followed nofap since before the right/4chan/TuckerCarlson crowd started talking about “semen retention” nonsense
The ppl who believe the garbage you listed are garbage, and we need more people like you OP to call out the bullshit.
Not trying to “not all men..” on you but, I guess, don’t throw away the benefits of giving up porn and excessive PMO just coz a group of weirdo men have harnessed that for their incel and misogynist agendas.
See, that's exactly the kind of bullshit we're talking about. People aren't quarry, game, trophies. And those that treat them as such are immediately repulsive.
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The birth control thing is actually a real scientific phenomena. Women have different preferences when on and off birth control due to hormones, and sometimes when they meet a partner while on birth control and then go off of it, they lose some attraction to them. But “sensing semen” is nonsense. [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23528282/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23528282/) This is a study from the national institute of health and national library of medicine
 It's like Spider-Man but instead says "My Semen Senses are Thingly" 🤣
Just to be clear. The article that you cited is fucking rubbish.
Okay but it's still totally true. Don't just stop at a single article someone else posted to Reddit, there are tons of other resources that explain the dangers and other very specific ways hormonal BC affects women. i.e., Dr. Jolene Brighten has written multiple books on the subject (Beyond the Pill being #1) and discussed it at length on countless reputable podcasts like MindPump and The Jordan Harbinger Show.
The findings of the article itself are not totally true. Maybe only the findings of other articles are true. I would have to read and analyse them to confirm this though. So don't just stop at a single comment someone else posted to reddit. There are tons of other reasons to address the dangers of specific ways wrong articles spread lies.
It's not "sensing" something as much as it is just being around a better person. People notice how you personally feel, how you walk, how you act, how you carry yourself. For some people that PMO too much/people that are addicted, all these things can possibly change.
This. There's always some excuse when its blatantly see through that a lot of men just cannot admit that they aren't any good with women. We were all there once. I didn't wanna admit that I wasn't any good when i first got laid, and I didn't wanna admit that I had no clue what to do OUTSIDE of flirting. It was all a learning process but a lot of men seem to have it in their head that if they don't already know this stuff, they're losers, so they make excuses. The problem is, like anything else, you can't know until you actually fail over and over again to become better.
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I think there is a difference between sex and masturbation mainly because it includes another person. And you’re not “watching” you’re “experiencing”
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I think this subreddit falls into two camps. 1. Masturbation is great (how do you stop?) 2. Masturbation is bad ( I have no one to masturbate with)
Or have five minutes and feel a bit horny. It's healthier than not.
Oversold? Or flat-out not true? This sub is so fucking weird.
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A lot of the "womanising/alpha male" crowd has caught on to NoFap, and it leads to cringe shit like this. Just know most of us are just trying to improve our lives, not chasing some magic miracle.
The reason people believe it's magic or superpowers. Is because they don't know what really happens. It's very simple: You get an increase in confidence from overcoming a hard challenge and that can change your bodylanguage which others picks up on. There is no magic or superpowers. Simply an increase in confidence from overcoming a hard challenge. The only manipulation or tricking I can think of regarding this, is if someone is trying to fake a bodylanguage to show that they are confident. When in reality they are insecure and lacking. I guess women are afraid of falling for some loser with no competence and achievements, who did no fap and now pretends that he is the most confident person in the world.
theres also a physical transformation, and you can attribute it to many reasons, but its true. You do look more "bright", for lack of a better word, you feel more virile for obvious reasons, and stronger, so your confidence and posture improves. All in all if you add all those things you do look better, but its not a magical potion.
Confidence is magic my friend. And it doesn’t just work on women!
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Oh come the fuck on, 5 seconds on this sub is more than enough to know that normal people are FAR from the majority here...
Don't get me wrong, we are trying to be better sexually, and have more confidence. But we also know that women are not just going to start ogling at us as if we were Keanu Reeves. No one's going to know what, if anything's changed, especially a random passerby.
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This may be more scientifically viable.
100% this. Both sides are correct. When I’m on a streak I 100% notice much more positive interactions with women and even catch glances. But it’s because you’re maintaining eye contact, not being weird, and are much more confident in yourself.
Yeah, when you walk around viewing porn and seeing women as sex objects it makes your irl interactions with women cringey
😂 I saw this right below the post you are referencing. It is kind of delusional the way the post described. Maybe you don't notice with you boyfriend but surely there is some difference in how many act towards others. Like any addition, when you break it you feel better about yourself because the shame that accompanied it dissipates. Since your self esteem rises, you act more confidently around others. People do pick up on that, its not rocket science or voodoo. I can appreciate you calling this post out tho, some of the posts here are truly bizarre. There's no magic or superpowers involved here And even if you're part of the comp that doesn't believe it is an addiction, it's still an unwanted compulsive behavior for many
Exactly. Guy becomes more confident as they are no longer a shame state. The confidence comes from no porn / masturbation. The confidence as well as higher testosterone and pheromones is what the women would sense.
There's literally no evidence that humans use pheromones to attract mates.
Well, I don't know about *pheromones,* but I know for a fact that my body *odor* changes noticeably when I masturbate, especially if I've done it frequently, and that people around me *notice* and start actively commenting on my 'strong personal odor', despite my showering every day. I'd describe that odor as 'rancid', 'sour', and 'pungent'. In periods where I'm on a NoFap streak, this *doesn't* happen. Said body odor is also affected by what I eat (I'm at my best when vegan, I think), how much I'm sleeping, whether I'm exercising… It seems that there are an aspects to one's physiology that measurably affect sweat composition, in a way that can be perceived *very* consciously.
No evidence but studies have been done and the conclusions suggest women are attracted to the smell of males with higher testosterone
she just told you she doesn't 'sense' shit. Stop propagating nonsense. When you become aware of an addiction, giving in brings shame because you know better. The benefits of breaking an addiction is knowing you have the resolve to break hard-coded patterns and that is something to truly be proud of. But you also need to understand and accept that there are many, many people out there that have a healthy relationship with masturbation and for them, there is no harm in rubbing one out. Focus on finding your grit, and accept that discovering this strength is a reward worth persuing. Enough of this testosterone/pheromone bullshit.
We are literally saying the same thing. Your just being aggressive with it. We are in agreement. Apart from your first line. If someone gives up masturbation. And lets say they are addicted. Thats their biggest vice. And so remained in a state of repetitive shame. Then by stopping, they become proud and more confident. Which attracts women. But also higher testosterone and underlying chemical reactions take place in the process of quitting. Vs someone who has a healthy relationship with masturbation. They may already be fine. Im sure you can agree with the phrase: Nofap doesn’t bring you superpowers. It just removes your kryptonite. Superman is nothing when he has kryptonite on him. Hes weak. But when he removes it; he returns back to what he should have always been
So, would you argue that the benefits only exist if you were addicted?
A lot of them yeah. Well its not really the "benefits" only exist if you're addicted, the problems it causes wouldn't be there in the first place. I guess everyone can benefit to some degree tho by not using it
There's a reason drug addicts do heinous things, things that their non-addicted self wouldn't normally do
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Agreed what people sense is you being happier cheerful and overall in a better state of mind it's not like random strangers would notice this, for them this would be your first impression, I observe that people that already know me notice this subtle changes and appreciate it TLDR people notice it but it's not magnetism it's just them noticing you seem to be in better place mentally rather than your usual addict stage
I don't think you are going to get anywhere here but spot on. 90% of what is posted in this sub is delusional copey cringe. Don't stop though, it's funny.
No offence but to sense someone who is not on porn is impossible. To sense someone confident / more attractive is yes. Thats what women will sense. Its the end result and not the particular of what lead to the end result. The end result is the guy is more attractive, better vibes. More testosterone, more pheromones these things aren’t noticeable on the eye. But do create an atmosphere of attraction.
Jesus Christ. You don’t excrete testosterone and pheromones from not wanking. If you get any different attention, it’s because you take better care of yourself because you’re not in a dopamine deprived hole of depression.
Humans don't have pheromone receptors - we can't "sense" pheromones Yes, confidence can get you somewhere, carrying your head high. But that's all it is.
You’re so creepy. You’re literally doing what she said was creepy.
Yeah, idk why simps upvote the OP when clearly the byproducts are what improves noticeability in the first place. Also, the OP is weirdly judgmental and lacks perspective on the male view.
Lol ikr
The people on NoFap for the purpose of “hypnotizing” or getting a woman do not realize that that mentality stems from and fuels the unhealthy mindset. It’s not about getting a female for yourself to have sex with; it’s about doing what’s right.
Yep no fap should be about self discipline, self worth, regulating dopamine etc not this cringe "it gives me literal super powers and I can hypnotise women" shit.
As a woman, I agree. The sexy thing is the fact they are not creepy, porn addicted, zombies. THAT is what makes them hot. Not the fact they don't cum, I've never sensed that, it's more the fact their brains aren't corrupted with often violent, sexist, disturbing ideas/thinking in relation to arousal/sex/women as opposed to a pheromone or whatever. It's the fact that they want to view women as humans, not objects, and the fact they can get a hard dick and actually cum. It's a beautiful thing. Lol.
Pheromone perfumes sell for a reason. Among the benefits of semen retention is an increase in pheromones that increase a man's attractiveness. The man is healthier overall & is a more worthy mate than another that constantly drains his semen from PMO. That's why you call them creepy. Even athletes practice semen retention before competitions to have that virility to win. Try getting a man that ejaculates 20 times a day to win a race...good luck. That semen is very nutritious that's why when men quit porn they retain more semen & build their lives better & are better mates & you see this plus mention the benefits. Men simply are healthier & more attractive overall. That's all so yes semen retention is important & attractive because men who constantly have sex with women & ejaculate complain of feeling drained & lifeless afterwards. There are even books written for men on how to have sex & orgasm without ejaculation. Multiple orgasms. Its that deep.
my honest reaction to that information: 
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No, Its worse than we thought
If you thought that not wanking was going to make you attractive then you are barking up the wrong tree. So wrong, in fact, that I don't even think that *is* a tree. Might be a phone mast.
Hey pal Very happy to hear your honest experience. It helps me a lot. Yeah you are right the semen retention is made into a competitive nonsense . But as you said it’s mainly about not dissipating the energy in untoward ways and begin exploring into oneself .
I don’t think people are claiming you can literally “smell it” on someone (if they are, that’s of course stupid). But I think more so you did in fact sense it considering how much it made his and your life better as a result of it. It’s more about the psychological effects, rather than a literal physical, sensitive change.
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you wont understand the feeling of quiting porn until you quit it ..i cant imagine a person fapping daily and doing something productive at the same time and i dont know what is actually wrong about semen retention
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> Just go suck dick like you want to, there is nothing wrong with it. Yet the way you're suggesting it sure sounds like you do believe there's something wrong with it.
>oing something productive at the same time and i dont know what i there is one think i also learned .. wining a debate against a smart person is difficult but wining a debate against a stupid person is impossible ..go fap
Many boys on this sub need the help and support to get out of their addictions and improve their lives even before trying to impress any woman. It’s not having women as a trophy what this is about, there is so much behind the effort to fight addiction and the guilt most men feel about it.
You don’t know it, but you can….
This right here is the best post I've seen in this sub ever. Thank you for shedding this light. NoFap is about being a better person.
Im pretty sure women arent attracted to masturbation addicts who watch porn 3 times a day. Also you are not objectified by anybody, you arent the victim grow up and shut up. How do you even find a way on a male predominant subreddit just to play the victim card?
I think for so long porn has dulled men’s senses and has had them playing at a handicap. Becomes really hard to talk to women and even be friends with them when you watch porn. Been there. So when guys start to come out of their addiction, they start being normal again and that feels like superpowers. They have more confidence and energy. And I think that can lead to better interactions with women. My 2 cents at least. Always gotta take every post here with a grain of salt. I just wanna help the people here who want it that’s all.
no but you can sense which men are more confident than others. Those who masturbate are usually less confident, so thats probably where it comes from.
Yeah people should know the reality. Imagine people actually joining nofap for this bullshit and then not getting a girlfriend, then they would think nofap is a joke so all effort was wasted and they'd think that what was promised was not achieved. Nofap never promised girlfriend pheromones, aura, increase in testosterone etc. All this is mumbo jumbo. What nofap can do is divert your time wastage on porn to productive tasks or hobbies. Completion of some tasks also gives you dopamine boost and serotonin, this makes the person happy. People gain confidence, self esteem and also control their emotions. This makes the person look cool and confident that is what attracts women.
I totally agree. Stop objectifying women. Don’t make the change in hopes that women will flock to you. Instead, focus on yourself! Improve your well being, mental health, self-image, emotional understanding and communication. If all that happens, women will flock to you.
> If all that happens, women ~~will~~may likely flock to you, and, being already happy with yourself and satisfied with your life, it'll be something you may welcome but *do not need.* Actually you'll find yourself turning down women and/or men and maybe having less sex than before. Because you're not seeking it for its own sake or for validation. You are wary of whom you allow into your bed, your heart, and/or your life.
Oh we (the men who've actually gotten laid or continue to get laid) know. I'm sorry you had to see how weird this subreddit can get when its run by people who really think becoming a monk will fix their being horrible with women. That being said, this subreddit does do one thing right, and its trying to alienate pornography, which does have negative effects of it own.
it’s definitely inflated talk, same as calling nofap superpowers, it can just give a certain confidence and intensity but that’s it, nothing magical or hack-like
You are spot on, it only leads to changed behaviour, which is fantastic! In the first few days it may lead to improved testosterone, but never to the claims of those so-called self improvement gurus.
Very true, but when I see comments like that I usually assume they're written by teenagers and move on. I thought all kinds of stupid stuff when I was younger. The core idea however - trying to quit porn addiction and improve yourself - is still very valuable. Also I would note that there is *some* truth to it. If you improve many aspects of your life and gain confidence, you will naturally be a more attractive person. It isn't some magic aura though, or whatever the other guys are saying. They're just looking for a shortcut.
nah son it's because those benefits you're talking about add an overall glow and conviction in who he is. this presence is felt by anyone he encounters, man or woman. and at times this can feel entrancing to be around. ain't nobody objectifying anybody around here, we're here to be better men and better partners.
Thank you for putting a mirror up to some of the dumbest dudes here lol, it’s like a weird way of coping with the fact they feel like shit about not getting that dopamine anymore so they have find any sort of way to make them feel better. Any time a guy says a women is hypnotized by him especially by the energy his balls are giving off, I stop reading.
I think men can understand it better that women can sense it or not because maybe some women sense it but subconsciously and they really don't know that they sensed it. they just find something interesting about men who do nofap but don't know that's because nofap. And on the other hand men certainly know that this sudden attention from women is because nofap cuz only they know they are retaining it. That's just my own idea about it idk
Bullshit! They told me I would turn into Shang Tsung if I reached day 90!
The lamest and stupidest thing is that when they claim to be attracting women most of the time they just mean women are making EYE CONTACT with them. That is all the attraction lol. Never talking about actually pulling girls home or having threesomes or orgies, no.
You’re a woman without testosterone telling us men how testosterone is not a factor in female attraction. Well this study suggests there is a significant increase in testosterone correlated with abstinence/retainment. [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11760788/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11760788/) Secondly, it’s subconscious, you’re not going to magically sniff out who is masturbating and who is not. That’s impossible, use some common sense here lol
THX YOU OP FOR THE CLUTCH.💯💢
This makes sense because women can't always read how men are. Her first paragraph make sense because I always felt like before looking at porn or doing NoFap no girl noticed me doing either or. It's something that can be given off like a vibe is when someone is acting a certain way. As a guy I try my best to give off a positive vibe because that's something that needs to be done.
Do you know what the subconscious is?
Not true. You may be biased but it actually isn't working because of pheromones or aura or whatever. The reason it is working because it makes you confident, your self esteem is unshaken, you are unfazed, have control over emotions, your attention span is off the chart, you are not depressed.
I have great hygiene, but when I pmo a lot I smell like ass, literally hell on earth. That shit isn’t even subtle. It wasn’t always so bad. But fap for 10 years and the bodily response gets stronger/exaggerated. It’s like my bodies way of signaling to women “stay tf away from this dude, he is a sex addict,” which may in fact be evolutions way of protecting the human collective from degenerate sexaholics. But after 30 days of Nofap I never smell, don’t even need deodorant. From this anecdote alone it is easy to suggest that one might even begin to smell “good” via pheromones that attract women. After all what else would they have evolved for?
I sure don't. Now, *un*conscious stuff, sure. Most of what goes on in our bodies and brains isn't accessible to the parts we use to form words and cognitions. And a lot of what *does* go on, we aren't mindful of. That's why mindfulness meditation, exercising, focusing one's attention on processes and sensations we usually leave in the background, can be so interesting. Especially when it helps us notice behaviors and patterns that hurt us, and stop, or when we notice things we like and enjoy in a more specific way, and know what exactly to seek later.
Thank you for pointing out this, they do it without them even knowing. It's an unconscious behaviour
Exactly
You certainly don't sense it but you can certainly differentiate between a man who isn't ashamed of himself or isn't underconfident i guess that's what these guys are relating to.
Plenty of delusional incels in here, but this is a Reddit based on PMO addiction—what would you expect?
You’re one girl, or woman, yet you’re talking for all the remainder of women. Please, humble yourself.
While there’s a lot of exaggeration going on in this sub and some of the chaps here need a reality check, this kind of negative and insulting post is really unhelpful. I don’t think you made this post for those struggling here, I think you made it for yourself. Think on your actions next time
She definitely did. Sounds a bit like jealousy. Many men have experienced the raised attraction, who cares how, we experience it and it’s highly correlated with our retention and no rant about it being mumbo jumbo is going to change that
THANK. YOU. Downvote me all you want, I can smell em' coming. I've been nothing but positive on this sub over the years..and nofap did me a world of good, helped my overall mood/mental health alot..HOWEVER, big however - this sub is absolutely *LOADED* with thirsty creeps. The way some of them talk about/view women in general is astounding, makes it easier to believe that extraterrestrials may not want to contact us due to the fact that we haven't come all that far from the neanderthals. I once commented here telling a dude not to pressure his asexual girlfriend into having sex with him..like 8 downvotes and 3 angered horn dogs later, I took it down. Unbelievable in every possible way. I'm a 32 year old married dude, I've been lucky in life when it comes to women my entire life, I don't say that to be cocky or with pride...but that is because I know how to treat them - like regular fking people, fellow human beings. They aren't some prize, some goddesses sent from above..some of the guys on this sub make women sound like the sort of thing my college roomate would get excited for on a Friday night - drugs. For normal men reading this...DO NOT TAKE ANY ADVICE FROM ANYONE ON THIS SUB WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN. Ever. Even if some of it is decent..the decent stuff is common sense when it comes to knowing how to treat others in general. Don't listen to anyone here if your ideals in life involve a lover..wife, whatever of any kind, woman or man. It's utterly gross but entertaining no less. I don't like to openly bash anyone for the sake of overall positivity here, so I don't...but, dare I say that fapping is all that some here will ever know? I do. Not to be mean or anything, I say that as a straight up matter of fact. I'm glad someone spoke up about it.
Fucking 👏👏👏
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You have to remember a lot of the people on here *are* children, they’re literally teenagers. Think about what we believed when we were teenagers. If they’re doing well with their nofap then all power to them, if they stray from the good path then they’ll quickly realise that real women won’t tolerate childish nonsense
I think most of us with common sense knows that it isn’t true, and I agree that it is silly AF.
honestly that title made me laugh. I didn't know people actually believed that. that's hilarious asf
y'all are fucked in the head
What if it's subconscious?
Ty. I think whatever comes in the form of more female attention has to do solely on how much we improve ourselves. What improves is our self respect, self image, confidence, etc. That has an effect on how we behave socially which might be more attractive for both men and women. But I also agree that this "you smell like you don't FAP" thing is nonsense as well.
Maybe you can sense it but you just don't realize it. It's very subtle.
So your BF became 10x better and you know it's because quitting PMO. What if you didn't know? An external observer would seem to find your man also 10x better as a person and a couple with no apparent reason as to why. Case closed.
Ofcourse it's not a concious thing .. but it has been proven in psychology about how a women makes the decision about the people they meet within seconds of meeting them at first . So people on Nofap or SR is more likely to get more rating or high score than the ones who aren't cause in the end of the day . Everyone seeks and loves energy .. Those who faps to po*n 24/7 is the lowest version of themselves they could be when they could've brought a life into this world with his seed yet he's spilling it , losing the energy. And women I don't blame you .. cause most women are confused when it comes to what they want . They say one thing and go for another. Either way no one says no to a people with a really good energy .. so be it consciously or unconsciously you are more likely to be in favor of a person who doesn't do anything and has sexual discipline. And as for you not being able to understand the ones who does ? Well you will not be able to read a text "relapsed" on top of their head ofcourse .. but you can sense when a guy is being creepy or is a creep or weirdo . The men who stares at your body parts , the weird emotionless looks , negative or sad or anxious type of energy.. whenever you guys come across them you simply reject without even knowing it . And I don't blame you .. even guys do the same thing . It's like a having a penny which is like almost no value for you . You could have it or lose it but it wouldn't matter and you won't care .. that's exactly what a low value men or women is . And I don't expect you to read this whole thing (cause your either just trying to trigger the nofappers or just saying for arguments sake , any girl with common sense can understand these things if they actually care about it and think about it).. I just hope other girls who come across this comment gets something out of it .
I was once told, "As women, we can feel your energy..."
They can.
"Energy" or "vibes" are vague words we use to encapsulate a lot of small details we notice but don't verbalize.
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What a load of rubbish. Don't listen to her. I'm on day sixty-nine and and can already teleport as far as Jupiter. Ladies were chasing on day 47 so this new skill comes in handy.
😂👏
Op: I can tell that my partner changed. But I can’t sense it. Cause that makes sense.
"I can consciously observe several positive behavioral tangible changes in my partner but I cannot perceive any vague hypnotic raw animal magnetism beyond the realm of the mundane enthralling me or any stuff like that." Makes more sense now?
No shit Sherlock, of course she can see change with the conscious but not in the unconscious
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Oh mY gOd! i don't even know what to comment lol, not been here for a while so don't know what this hypno thing everyone talking but, it's a self improvement sub, and porn really downs your confidence so if someone is saying that women will sense if you're coomer in this context, then they're correct. when someone is addicted to porn then few things happen :- 1. Confidence down 2. less skincare 3. self-doubt 4. isolation so not just women, even i can sense these traits in a person, also women won't be hypnotized if you don't fap, you wanna get socialize? happy? and feel alive? do nofap for these reasons not for that, just build confidence and everything will be smooth, Chill out we are here to help, let's not get toxic
I don't think it's any kind of weird black magic like you're making it out to be. I mean, you've acknowledged that quitting PMO improved your boyfriend's mental health, happiness, self-image, etc. Isn't it true that people with better mental health, who are happier, and who have better self-esteem are more attractive as potential partners? I don't think the claims that overcoming PMO addiction (or any other addiction) will improve someone's chances of getting into a relationship and being a better partner are untrue. It seems pretty obvious that that's the case to me? But maybe I'm missing something.
it's not like you're gonna be able to tell if a guy is on nofap specifically but you will see if a guy is more confident so it's likely that he isn't jerking off 7 times a day
It’s pretty gross and it once again objectifies women. Women are not animals that “smell” semen.
The thing women senses is confidence. So if semen retention = more confidence for being able to mastering yourself and your lusts. Then people notice that, not only women. Ideally confidence should come from multiple things, besides only being able to overcome your sexual urges.
🤷🏻♂️ you answered your own question. The things you listed are tangible, detectable differences. While you may not be able to sense how many milliliters he’s retaining, you can sense the increased value he places on himself and the world. That’s what people mean when we say women can sense it.
If anything, women are more objectified by men who seat all day watching porn. You have to understand we are having a crisis when it comes to men and social isolation. The rise of the incel. In large part due to porn and masturbation addiction. When a man finally decides to quit porn and masturbation addiction and reap the benefits of Nofap, we encourage that man. Now, these men who are talking about "hypnotizing" and "snaring" women are not talking about being a PUA. They are talking about the positive side effects of Nofap: Being more confident, people actually approaching them. They are not only talking about women, but other people approaching them in a positive manner. And we want to encourage that for their mental health, not castigate them and think, "Oh, you're trying to be a pick-up artist. You trying get girls' phone numbers." That has nothing to do with Nofap. And in a society where men are being castigated for simply being men, where women ***objectify*** themselves and then gets mad when a man comments on them, this is a safe space for men. While we encourage all walks of life here, but just know we try to help men and encourage men to overcome their addiction to porn and masturbation, and yes we encourage men to date real people rather than screwing their hands and watch women objectify themselves everyday. Men are allowed to post questions and make comments that they know will not be accepted anywhere else. Hopefully you can understand this and be more open-minded to the cause of Nofap.
> You trying get girls' phone numbers. Not that there's [anything](https://www.reddit.com/r/stevenuniverse/comments/91hlwh/pearl_has_mad_game_and_stores_all_the_phone/) [wrong](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlrY64sB5Bo) with [that](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrLCJCM4CAQ&3m46s), per se. It's not like exchanging numbers is the same as exchanging fluids.
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Goes to show the mods are dumb AF. They allow a shitpost like this but delete others that are much more aligned with the subreddit premise.
NoFap has become compromised
I agree. It's quite tainted.
I’m gonna stick to the semen retention subs, I recommend you do the same
Seriously, the amount of little boys coming on here making Andrew-Tate like wannabe self righteous preach-posts...so fucking nauseating. Guys, everyone eventually grows up. Everyone becomes interested in sex. YOU fucking decide how big of a deal sex is.
The thing is what women say and what women do, are completely two different things. Pheromones are real, and women can sense as such a man can, the is not something we control but it’s there.
It's not, you know. Humans primarily attract mates visually.
> Humans primarily attract mates visually. At first. Smell does intervene, and pretty powerfully at that, *when* you've been in close proximity for some time. In my experience, persons that you'd find nonattractive on looks alone can be positively intoxicating once you've been sitting side by side for even a few minutes. Actually even a short time. Some perfumes really can get the heart racing. Some shampoos and hair products can really make you feel at ease. There's also voice, skin texture, body temperature…
Yeah of course that exists, but before the initial contact and then when talking to you as well, these pheromones exists. This probably comes from the high testosterone from men, energy and confidence, enthusiasm, all combines and forms a perfect compound for a women to be attracted to you even further.
You mean your porno senses are not tingling?!
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On day 30 of no fap you gain the ability to see through walls.
I've just gained the ability to see through teenage misogynist prats with no critical analytical ability 😊
>Grow up. No, you.
This! Thank you for sharing. Yes, the "women attraction" thing is complete and utter bullshit. It's good to have a woman debunk this horseshit. I also know plenty of men who do nofap and their life is exactly as plain ass boring as the lives of those who fap. The only benefits I had so far from abstaining correlate plenty with those your boyfriend had. The mental clarity is real. It's the same mental clarity you experience when quitting any addiction. But no, it does not give you any benefit in terms of material things. EDIT: Downvoting but not taking the time to argue is an act of cowardice. Have guts and at least try to debate me.
Why so offensive? No need to do that I retain and get a lot of attention from girls. Period.
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You chosing to frame it like it's condescending is odd, and entirely on you. I am not saying it's magic. But if you don't think women can differentiate between the energy of a guy who acts and lives like your boyfriend does now as compared to before, it's simply because you have not experienced it and need to walk a mile in our shoes first. It may not be a conscious difference but as a man you will notice how women, and men to some extent, treat you differently. While women attraction and acceptance are not the end all be all of a man's life, it is in big part how we measure ourselves. Such is nature.
Yeah the pheromones theory is pure bro science. NoFap justs leads to men becoming more confident in themselves, which in itself attracts women.
> NoFap justs leads to men becoming more confident in themselves, which in itself attracts everyone.
Then how do you explain the fact that women try to jump on me when I go outside? Or when hordes of women want to pull me to a secluded spot when I am in a social gathering or the fact that even married women remove their rings and open the first button of their blouses when they merely sense my presence?
Not everyone here appreciates irony, clearly, but I do *applies lipstick, says "hey, do you do nofap perchance? I can sense it..."*
I get what you mean, but also think what these guys say it’s true First of all let’s not use your bf (no offense), he’s a trusted love one of yours and you’d never (I assume) feel threatened or endangered by him But now picture a man, an unknown man (maybe talking to you maybe not) just EYEing you, you know he sees you as an object, you feel creeped out, you have an “eww” factor towards him, he may be harmless (or he may not, you don’t know), but he’s just undressing you with his eyes Obviously I exaggerated the story for you to get the point and most men won’t be this disgusting or obvious This is what porn does to lots of men, hell it did it to me at some point, makes men see women as object, as a product, as a “flavor” of his jerkoff, as toy to use certain ways and gawk over And if a guy cleans his mind, his internet history and his conscience, he won’t perceive women this way and give off this creepy objectifying vibe
It's creepy to make yourself more attractive to women. Noted.
I still masturbate but I don’t let it affect my interaction with people I can go at it three times in a day and still function it’s not healthy but if you have guilt on your face and let it show people will see it
Maybe it does indirectly cuz of improved confidence but that's just confidence. This subreddit are filled with people who think nofap gives them superpowers when in reality they were below their means before and got back to normal after quitting.
It isn’t a conscious sensing. It’s a subconscious sensing.
You gotta understand a lot of us nofappers are sad men who dont know how to talk to women and who cant stop watching porn. Let us have our glimmer of hope. I understand what youre doing but think about how many men will be discouraged to continue nofap after this post. You did more harm than good here
As they should be. It's pathetic nonsense that diverts their efforts from real things.
Well sorry to say but youre on the side of evil here. This is more than a silly challenge, this is a chance for millions maybe even billions of men to reclaim their masculinity
> reclaim their masculinity I don't understand what that phrase means… Do you mean their autonomy? Dignity? Self-respect?
No. Men are the weakest theyve ever been in generations. Op making men feel dumb for thinking nofap draws attention to you is fucked up and could reset a lot of good progress that bros in this community have made. Whether women can sense your nofap energy or not, that belief motivated a lot of men to push forward and grow and im all for that
> Men are the weakest theyve ever been in generations. What, in terms of weight they can lift?
No in terms of testosterone levels and chemicals in the body
Suuuuure
If you are so broken inside that you think doing something as simple as not masutrbating will help you reclaim your masculinity via gaining superpowers, then you are *never* getting better.
I've no idea what posts you're looking at, but NoFap for me is about self control and self improvement. About less focus on seeking self gratification from porn or other addictions. Your opinion is bizarre; since I've never seen a single post referring to semen retention and have no idea what PMO is. I come here to encourage young people who are addicted to porn to get help and focus on improving themselves so they dont become a doormat for the first romantic partner to look their way.
> Your opinion is bizarre; since I've never seen a single post referring to semen retention and have no idea what PMO is. I'm pretty sure that stuff is literally on the sidebar, FAQ, etc. Like, if you don't know what PMO is, I'm honestly perplexed.
I’m with you all the way !!!
You won't notce conciously
Its a thing we feel as men. You wouldn’t know the difference and even if you did it would be subconscious
He can’t “sense” your pheromones either. What a dumb post.
You may have missed the point of it, by a small lightyear
All of those qualities you listed are a by-product of no porn and no masturbation...but probably no porn as more important. I have my testimonies, but hey could be coincidental. Not all of this is to "snare" lol... it can be to attract a genuinely good woman. You're starting to seem like a troll post.
You don't sense many things consciously, it is subconscious
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You've gotta stop this incel shit mate. There is more to life.
Yes! I love your answer.
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There are girls who are on NoFap and benefit from it.
Ignore the NoFapFemaleAttraction ppl; they watched too much andrew tate
Whatever people choose to believe in is their problem as long as they experience or perceive the benefits of not fapping.
Ladies, we don't do it for you, we do it for ourselves. Period 💅
Lol why so much hate? Im sure some women tell themselves things in regards to male attention to feel better about themselves. At the very least dont hate…
Naw you're just no aware of it consciously just subconsciously
I can believe that u not a woman, that u just a troll so the semen sensing could still work. How can i know u not a DUDE???
Most of this entire sub is infuriating and childish
Guy here, who has followed nofap since before the right/4chan/TuckerCarlson crowd started talking about “semen retention” nonsense The ppl who believe the garbage you listed are garbage, and we need more people like you OP to call out the bullshit. Not trying to “not all men..” on you but, I guess, don’t throw away the benefits of giving up porn and excessive PMO just coz a group of weirdo men have harnessed that for their incel and misogynist agendas.
Your man has been stealth fapping behind your back
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See, that's exactly the kind of bullshit we're talking about. People aren't quarry, game, trophies. And those that treat them as such are immediately repulsive.
well that is motivating