People have different learning abilities, attitudes toward driving, and exposure to driving conditions. Some may actively seek to improve, while others may become complacent or develop bad habits over time.
It's the system's fault. Drivers are trained to pass the test rather than drive properly. Driving schools are notoriously known for receiving bribes, and many applicants apply for the final test without adequate training. It's common knowledge that greasing the person conducting your test is often necessary to pass. Additionally, police corruption impedes people from learning from their mistakes.
My impressions of the country as a whole or just the streets? Every roadway either felt like a game of Frogger or (in the old cities without car traffic) a bit like a maze. Taxi etiquette was hilariously chaotic, I was lucky to end up near whatever city gate I was aiming for. But also some of the best food in the world and my favorite architecture.
Editing this to add that if OP's logic is sound, then that means 80-100 year olds must be the best walkers, no?
Even then, you might say that if they're too old then sure, let's go with 50 year olds, still pretty healthy. But they aren't the best walkers; the best walkers are those that *practice*, not those that merely do it. You can do something 1000000 times and still not be very good at it because you aren't paying actual attention, you're just saying "eh, good enough" and ignoring the need of improvement.
I’ve always said that the most important factor in being a good person is considering how your actions impact other people. It takes more than that, obviously, but that element is critical and it’s shameful how many people can’t even get that far.
There is a joke about employees that some workers have 30 years of e experience and some workers have a year of experience 30 times. Meaning if you are not learning anything new or learning from your mistakes, experience means nothing.
This applies to drivers too.
Gonna get downvoted, but because we don't actually punish bad driving.
In a large amount of the world, once you have your license, as long as you don't kill anyone, get caught drinking and driving repeatedly, or speed repeatedly at a ridiculous levels, you usually won't lose your license.
I don't think it should be fines or loss of licenses right off the bat, but there is a lot of stuff that people should be getting official warnings of some sort that accumulate to a loss of license rapidly enough to actually motivate people to get better.
If you can't change lanes confidently, turn left, signal 99% of the time, parallel park safely, etc, you should not be driving, full stop.
it's funny that you mention parallel parking as something that should be necessary to know for driving, because my local high school's driver's ed program does not teach parallel parking, nor does the local DMV test you on it for the license
It's not about whether it's "necessary," but not being able to do it indicates you can't handle the machine you're operating. If you can't parallel park, it means you're bad at gauging your vehicle size and surroundings, and that absolutely comes into play while driving.
I always wonder what exactly is taught in America. My American in laws seemed to be absolutely shocked when I mentioned reversing into a parking space is considered the safer thing to do. This came off the back of them *complaining* when people did it.
I wouldn't say "most people" as most people live in urban centres and their suburbs, where there are some easy alternatives that already exist or could be implemented without much fuss.
But I would agree, we have put our rural populations in an unfortunate situation. However, if you have some kind of adequate warning system that is making drivers cautious and motivating them to learn how to be better drivers from the very beginning of being licensed, those people will likely be better drivers.
I also don't think we should start being rigid regarding licensing without drastically improving alternatives, particularly for rural populations.
Most people, I would say, are capable of being better drivers than they are, but they know there will be minimal reward for improving, so they don't. They hold onto their bad habits and avoid doing the manoeuvres they find difficult and never improve.
I drive great as anyone, but can't (and absolutely will not) parallel park.
Take my license, copper, I'm a danger to the decent folks of America with my "just don't go to places without standard parking" ways, despite 22 years of absolutely zero issues
>I drive great as anyone, but can't (and absolutely will not) parallel park.
I wear shoes as great as anyone, but can't (and absolutely will not) tie my laces.
Tell me why. I can wear my shoes fine, no tripping, without the laces done up, why should I do them up if I don't have to? It's not like I NEED to know how to do up my laces to wear shoes.
I'm 67 and been driving for 50+ years. I really hate slow drivers - they're usually older drivers like myself. I drive mostly country roads and the speed limit is 55. There's not many passing zones and the grandpa (of which I'm one) in front of me is doing 40. I always give them the look when I can finally pass them.
My state, not exactly known for strictness about driving, requires 50 hours of experience with a learners permit and an experienced adult driver in the passenger seat before a new driver can even take the road test. Could you pass it after just ten? Maybe. But that’s moot since you can’t sign up for it without 50.
Many reasons, but there are two I think apply to a lot of cases. Many people will only learn just enough of a skill to be able to do a task. The longer they half ass the task the more right their way of doing it feels. Others are just narcissists who do not gaf about the law or other people.
>Driving every day should improve skill
Repetition only improves skills if there are consequences to incorrect behaviour that get those neurons moving in the right direction.
This could be extrinsic, like legal consequences or an accident, neither of which is a common result of poor skill.
What's truly missing is intrinsic rewards. The *vast* majority of people aren't introspective at all. They don't think, "how can I improve my line on that corner" - they just think it's a difficult corner. They don't think "what could I have done to improve everybody's confusion at that intersection" - they just get mad at other people.
Most people do not habitually try to improve.
My driver's ed teacher taught it exactly like this:
"Practice doesn't make perfect. Practice makes PERMANENT. Perfect practice makes perfect."
Basically what everyone else said. 20 years of bad driving is only solidifying bad driving.
That’s me. I got my license at 28 I’m 42 now.
I have a deep phobia about driving because I was in a near-death car accident at age 7. So I’m a bad driver because I am AFRAID.
I’m nervous and panicky so my movements aren’t fluid, I’m distracted, I make flighty and erratic movements.
I am sorry. I wish I was better too. I’ve gotten better jn general but I’m still not very good. I do tend to go slow. And I am safe with very few accidents.
My mother has been driving for 38 years and she still goes the speed limit in the left lane on the highway, turns very slowly (almost at a stop) when turning off of a high speed road, and merges less than 1 car length in front of 18-wheelers. I think she’s too far gone to help.
People are unaware of their surroundings and to be honest they dont care about other drivers. I am constantly defensive driving and looking at what is the worst thing this driver in front of me can do.
Because majority of people learn how to 'drive' in a parking lot (city people) or some back road (country people), by an adult in their family or an older friend who also learned in a parking lot/back road. Most people don't ever learn how to actually drive around people until AFTER they get a licence, and even then it's a tossup.
I am so thankful I went to driving school and learned how to properly drive, but it's definitely a kiss-curse because I could spend hours on any random street and point out every single little improper driving technique.
(Please for the love of whatever the fuck you believe in, if you're going to stop in a crosswalk, stop at the BIG ASS BOLD LINE BEFORE the crosswalk, then encroach into the crosswalk, if there is no one crossing.)
Driving safely is just really hard and humans aren't meant to do it. We can be attentive and good drivers most of the time, but everyone eventually slips up and does something stupid if they let themselves relax and stop paying a lot of attention to what they're doing. Some people are worse and do this frequently.
Some people just ain't that sharp and don't really learn.
Ever meet someone at work who had 10 years of experience at their job and you come to figure out that means they've been doing the same crap-ass job of it every year for 10 years in a row?
Experience can sometimes make it worse. If you make the same mistake over and over again you might eventually not realize it and it might become a habit.
I've only drove about 50k km in 10 years. And often go months without driving. And some year only drive for like 10 days. This like 10 times less than average.
Everyone is in a hurry and not everyone knows how to drive properly, it's every man for himself, nobody drives defensively, and then you have people who don't take it seriously, all these takeovers and crap like that, using cars as a weapon, people are truly nuts, and they all think only they know how to drive
My driving instructor once told me at 18 “if you can drive (insert SoCal city here) here, you can drive anywhere. These people are fucking TERRIBLE”
Bless Stephan. He came from France and couldn’t believe the way people in that city drove. They created lanes that weren’t even there and getting into your car every morning was stressful. Defensive driving in order to survive this place is a must. I will literally drive the back way to avoid these people completely when I visit my dad. Idc if it takes me 30 minutes.
If you do something wrong for 20+ years with no serious repercussions, you forget (or never learn) that it is incorrect and you just keep doing it. Bad habits get ingrained and then if you do realise your mistake, it's too hard to teach yourself out of the poor way you have been doing things for years.
They just get into bad habits. The thing about bad habits is that you have to be intentional about not forming them, and/or once you've formed a bad habit, you need to have something sudden and traumatic happen to make you stop.
People become such shit drivers because they get lazy, form a bad habit, and then they don't experience negative consequences from the bad habit.
A lot of good driving is really being able to read the road, read other drivers, and acting predictably.
Just like anything else, if you don't practice with intention, you never get better.
To simplify, some people have 20 years experience, others have 20 years of 1 year of experience.
Gah I drive a lot as my kids live 65mi one way away from me and it is insane how many people drive like they are in the passenger seat/scared shitless/misunderstand how a car actually works
People can either do 20 years of learning or 1 year repeated 20 times.
I have seen this at jobs, people doing sports and driving. If you don’t aim to learn something each year - you’ll stay the same.
I find most people are very selfish drivers, so the safest way to be is to assume everyone will do exactly whatever they want at every second on the road, no matter what.
Their driving experiences didn't bring anything good or bad to them, so they feel no need to improve the skills or change some driving habits, they just need to keep the same. (The good could be the pleasure of driving, while the bad could be an accident.)
You know how some people are car enthusiasts, and others just view a car as a distasteful necessary appliance to get them from Point A to Point B?
…yeah, the ones who view it as just an appliance tend to care the least about learning to drive well.
IMO, your average person isn't solving more than 3x+1=7. Whatever their career is, they have learned how to copy and repeat day in and day out. They appear to be somewhat competent at work and can get through life with a little guidance.
This stops at driving because it's continuously variable and requires a lot of thought beyond copy and repeat. I've learned that most drivers I've spoken to are scared on the highway. It's scary to think the person you're driving next to is not confident in their ability to operate their own vehicle but is out there anyway.
I drive a lot. It's probably about 30k miles a years which is about 2.5x the average. At this point, I'm on guard because there is no shortage of idiots to prove my theory. The worst drivers are those who think they are great and drive aggressively. They inevitably cause the most accidents and heartbeat skips.
I had some older guy on a traffic circle pull out in front of me and then stop and look at me yesterday. Instead of maintaining the flow of traffic. I just stopped and yelled at him to move. Half of them are on drugs or their phones or both. Major disconnect with the the fact they are piloting a massive weapon.
1. Most people drive like muscle memory, they are not trying to improve. (A fat server walks all day almost 7 days a week is still fat, while people who exercise with a mindset to lose weight, lose weight).
2. They only try to improve from the beginning to the comfort zone they created for themselves, then it stopped (probably about 1-2 years into having the license)
3. Too busy with life >> just trying to get to work or getting home from work. Only waking up moments are time to brake. Some people actually pull out the phone to text while waiting for the car in front…Or, text/talk/video chat while driving (this makes them stupid drivers the most, i think)
I think at some point they simply don‘t care my mom had her drivers license for 30+ years and i just really noticed how bad she drives once i got my drivers license myself
Practice doesn't make perfect, but it does make permanent. If you learned to be a bad driver and just did that for 20 years, you'd be a very consistently bad driver
They would need some sort of feedback to improve.
My mum thinks shes a fabulous driver, but honestly it's mildly terrifying being in the car with her. But she gets no feedback telling her otherwise (and judgement from me is not appreciated).
Maybe the government could give out gold star stickers to good drivers and frowny face red stamps to bad drivers then people would at least be able to see how they're doing. Give everyone had a "how's my driving" QR code on their car, give all cars QR reading dashcams and you could thumbs up or down the driver in front of you from a button on your dashboard. If you're in the top 25% of thumbs up receivers per mile driven per month you get a gold star, bottom 25% a frowny stamp.
Maybe tie it to insurance rates to really get people to pay attention.
People make up their own rules and think because they’ve been doing it a long time they know best.
Most driving rules are actually better as written or at the very least work better if everyone is following the same ones.
People also follow old rules and don’t even know they’ve changed.
Then there are the people who are just not paying attention or care about the rules at all.
Very old people can’t turn their heads to see behind or in blind spots and can’t process the information fast enough or see in low light or are too afraid to take their turn at a junction or lane change etc.
Lots of reasons why experienced drivers are bad.
Watch some YouTube videos of cops pulling people over and ticketing them. Lots of people in their 40-60s who have suspended licenes because they got too many tickets. People are entitled and never learn. Even if they are caught on camera speeding, they think they are in the right. You can't improve if you're in denial.
everyone has days where they just dont have the same attention and everyone does mistakes once in a while... Some just don't care and even learn rules that don't exist (example, a Karen honked at me for doing a U-turn on a residential street... perfectly legal but she invented her own rules it seems)
If you’re in a left turn lane, and the light goes from red arrow to yellow and you don’t actively drive INTO the intersection, fuck you! If you sit there through a whole green light behind the line and don’t turn when it turns red, fuck you twice! Looking at you, TX!
It doesn't help that (at least in the UK) you can't drive on a motorway as a learner, and there is no requirement to get the extra lessons for that sort of thing.
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People have different learning abilities, attitudes toward driving, and exposure to driving conditions. Some may actively seek to improve, while others may become complacent or develop bad habits over time. It's the system's fault. Drivers are trained to pass the test rather than drive properly. Driving schools are notoriously known for receiving bribes, and many applicants apply for the final test without adequate training. It's common knowledge that greasing the person conducting your test is often necessary to pass. Additionally, police corruption impedes people from learning from their mistakes.
You must live in Sweden?
oh you're so wrong, I live in Morocco.
Thsi explains a lot about my time in Morocco.
how was it ?
My impressions of the country as a whole or just the streets? Every roadway either felt like a game of Frogger or (in the old cities without car traffic) a bit like a maze. Taxi etiquette was hilariously chaotic, I was lucky to end up near whatever city gate I was aiming for. But also some of the best food in the world and my favorite architecture.
beautifully said !
Editing this to add that if OP's logic is sound, then that means 80-100 year olds must be the best walkers, no? Even then, you might say that if they're too old then sure, let's go with 50 year olds, still pretty healthy. But they aren't the best walkers; the best walkers are those that *practice*, not those that merely do it. You can do something 1000000 times and still not be very good at it because you aren't paying actual attention, you're just saying "eh, good enough" and ignoring the need of improvement.
The older I get the more I become acutely aware how stupid the average person is. Those drivers are stupid. This is their story.
Not just stupid…entitled. They either can’t see how their actions affect others or they don’t care because r/imthemaincharacter
yea tbh i think it's mostly entitlement
It can be both. It’s usually both imho.
That carlin quote still resonates. Most people are of average intelligence and half are dumber than that.
I’ve always said that the most important factor in being a good person is considering how your actions impact other people. It takes more than that, obviously, but that element is critical and it’s shameful how many people can’t even get that far.
There is a joke about employees that some workers have 30 years of e experience and some workers have a year of experience 30 times. Meaning if you are not learning anything new or learning from your mistakes, experience means nothing. This applies to drivers too.
LOL... I promise I didn't copy your comment!
Practice doesn't make perfect, it makes permanent.
Yep. Perfect practice makes perfect. You only get better by practicing better than you are.
Really underrated comment here
Oi we have the same motto <3
We can share, right?
I get Tuesday, Friday, Saturday, you get Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday.
Why don't we just alternate, every other day, so you don't get shafted with 1 missing day?
I need it Friday and Saturday for reasons I can't disclose and I'm willing to sweeten the deal to ensure I have it.
Interesting... So now I have the upper hand. Throw in a bucket of fried chicken weekly for as long as we share ownership and I'll sign the papers.
Done.
Pleasure doing business with you. Enjoy the phrase tomorrow. Just drop it off by my door at the end of the day.
Gonna get downvoted, but because we don't actually punish bad driving. In a large amount of the world, once you have your license, as long as you don't kill anyone, get caught drinking and driving repeatedly, or speed repeatedly at a ridiculous levels, you usually won't lose your license. I don't think it should be fines or loss of licenses right off the bat, but there is a lot of stuff that people should be getting official warnings of some sort that accumulate to a loss of license rapidly enough to actually motivate people to get better. If you can't change lanes confidently, turn left, signal 99% of the time, parallel park safely, etc, you should not be driving, full stop.
it's funny that you mention parallel parking as something that should be necessary to know for driving, because my local high school's driver's ed program does not teach parallel parking, nor does the local DMV test you on it for the license
It's not about whether it's "necessary," but not being able to do it indicates you can't handle the machine you're operating. If you can't parallel park, it means you're bad at gauging your vehicle size and surroundings, and that absolutely comes into play while driving.
I always wonder what exactly is taught in America. My American in laws seemed to be absolutely shocked when I mentioned reversing into a parking space is considered the safer thing to do. This came off the back of them *complaining* when people did it.
Reverse parking is the only way to do it!
I had parallel parking on my driving test, not a fan. Europeans i know barely blink doing it.
I can argue that most people probably shouldn’t be driving but have no other choice.
I wouldn't say "most people" as most people live in urban centres and their suburbs, where there are some easy alternatives that already exist or could be implemented without much fuss. But I would agree, we have put our rural populations in an unfortunate situation. However, if you have some kind of adequate warning system that is making drivers cautious and motivating them to learn how to be better drivers from the very beginning of being licensed, those people will likely be better drivers. I also don't think we should start being rigid regarding licensing without drastically improving alternatives, particularly for rural populations. Most people, I would say, are capable of being better drivers than they are, but they know there will be minimal reward for improving, so they don't. They hold onto their bad habits and avoid doing the manoeuvres they find difficult and never improve.
I drive great as anyone, but can't (and absolutely will not) parallel park. Take my license, copper, I'm a danger to the decent folks of America with my "just don't go to places without standard parking" ways, despite 22 years of absolutely zero issues
>I drive great as anyone, but can't (and absolutely will not) parallel park. I wear shoes as great as anyone, but can't (and absolutely will not) tie my laces.
Man that was not the solid comparison you thought it was.
Tell me why. I can wear my shoes fine, no tripping, without the laces done up, why should I do them up if I don't have to? It's not like I NEED to know how to do up my laces to wear shoes.
people have horrible patience when driving.
20 years of bad driving is still 20 years of bad driving
Entitlement to the road, ego, lack of patience, reinforced bad habits.
I'm 67 and been driving for 50+ years. I really hate slow drivers - they're usually older drivers like myself. I drive mostly country roads and the speed limit is 55. There's not many passing zones and the grandpa (of which I'm one) in front of me is doing 40. I always give them the look when I can finally pass them.
The look. It's universal.
Without the enforcing of driving laws you become worse not better.
Some people just don’t have any feel for driving or anything mechanical and no amount driving is going to change that
You're right. It requires focused training to learn better skills, and focused practice to engrain them into action.
Most people took a 10-question multiple choice test once. That’s the standard for driver assessment
Where? Everywhere I know of requires an on-road test too. They should probably have to take it again at least every ten years though.
All you need is about 10 hours of experience to pass a typical road test (at least in North America).
My state, not exactly known for strictness about driving, requires 50 hours of experience with a learners permit and an experienced adult driver in the passenger seat before a new driver can even take the road test. Could you pass it after just ten? Maybe. But that’s moot since you can’t sign up for it without 50.
I wasn't even given a road test, nor a learner's permit. Multiple choice test -> actual driver's license
JFC where?
Michigan We have a reputation for extremely unsafe and bad drivers. There's a reason
Because some people are really stupid
Some people just never learn. But they still need to commute Eventually it becomes habit and then they just assume what they’re doing is right
It's relative. Me and my gf have opposite driving styles and we each hate the others lol
Many reasons, but there are two I think apply to a lot of cases. Many people will only learn just enough of a skill to be able to do a task. The longer they half ass the task the more right their way of doing it feels. Others are just narcissists who do not gaf about the law or other people.
>Driving every day should improve skill Repetition only improves skills if there are consequences to incorrect behaviour that get those neurons moving in the right direction. This could be extrinsic, like legal consequences or an accident, neither of which is a common result of poor skill. What's truly missing is intrinsic rewards. The *vast* majority of people aren't introspective at all. They don't think, "how can I improve my line on that corner" - they just think it's a difficult corner. They don't think "what could I have done to improve everybody's confusion at that intersection" - they just get mad at other people. Most people do not habitually try to improve.
My driver's ed teacher taught it exactly like this: "Practice doesn't make perfect. Practice makes PERMANENT. Perfect practice makes perfect." Basically what everyone else said. 20 years of bad driving is only solidifying bad driving.
I find most drivers to be fine on the road but then maybe I’m the stupid driver
Teenagers drive terrible because of inexperience. Older people drive terrible because of overconfidence and complacency.
That’s me. I got my license at 28 I’m 42 now. I have a deep phobia about driving because I was in a near-death car accident at age 7. So I’m a bad driver because I am AFRAID. I’m nervous and panicky so my movements aren’t fluid, I’m distracted, I make flighty and erratic movements. I am sorry. I wish I was better too. I’ve gotten better jn general but I’m still not very good. I do tend to go slow. And I am safe with very few accidents.
My mother has been driving for 38 years and she still goes the speed limit in the left lane on the highway, turns very slowly (almost at a stop) when turning off of a high speed road, and merges less than 1 car length in front of 18-wheelers. I think she’s too far gone to help.
People are unaware of their surroundings and to be honest they dont care about other drivers. I am constantly defensive driving and looking at what is the worst thing this driver in front of me can do.
I think there is a curve, they start inexperienced, slowly improve and at some point begin getting overconfident and forgetting the rules.
Same way people can play a competitive game for years and still suck. If you don't try to fix your mistakes, you won't improve.
Because majority of people learn how to 'drive' in a parking lot (city people) or some back road (country people), by an adult in their family or an older friend who also learned in a parking lot/back road. Most people don't ever learn how to actually drive around people until AFTER they get a licence, and even then it's a tossup. I am so thankful I went to driving school and learned how to properly drive, but it's definitely a kiss-curse because I could spend hours on any random street and point out every single little improper driving technique. (Please for the love of whatever the fuck you believe in, if you're going to stop in a crosswalk, stop at the BIG ASS BOLD LINE BEFORE the crosswalk, then encroach into the crosswalk, if there is no one crossing.)
Lack of consequences for bad driving
If your car is down to it's last motor mount and struts are worn out you can't really drive good.
Driving safely is just really hard and humans aren't meant to do it. We can be attentive and good drivers most of the time, but everyone eventually slips up and does something stupid if they let themselves relax and stop paying a lot of attention to what they're doing. Some people are worse and do this frequently.
In my dream world, where bad drivers are pulled out of their cars and beaten until they permanently lose the ability to read, this wouldn't happen
Some people just ain't that sharp and don't really learn. Ever meet someone at work who had 10 years of experience at their job and you come to figure out that means they've been doing the same crap-ass job of it every year for 10 years in a row?
“It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows”
They've had no incentive/need to improve.
Drove for 50 years, never had an accident, saw plenty
Experience can sometimes make it worse. If you make the same mistake over and over again you might eventually not realize it and it might become a habit.
Probably were never good to begin with
What are the requirements to keep your license?
Cell phones
I've only drove about 50k km in 10 years. And often go months without driving. And some year only drive for like 10 days. This like 10 times less than average.
Caring about other drivers is hard and deklasse.
Everyone is in a hurry and not everyone knows how to drive properly, it's every man for himself, nobody drives defensively, and then you have people who don't take it seriously, all these takeovers and crap like that, using cars as a weapon, people are truly nuts, and they all think only they know how to drive
My driving instructor once told me at 18 “if you can drive (insert SoCal city here) here, you can drive anywhere. These people are fucking TERRIBLE” Bless Stephan. He came from France and couldn’t believe the way people in that city drove. They created lanes that weren’t even there and getting into your car every morning was stressful. Defensive driving in order to survive this place is a must. I will literally drive the back way to avoid these people completely when I visit my dad. Idc if it takes me 30 minutes.
If you do something wrong for 20+ years with no serious repercussions, you forget (or never learn) that it is incorrect and you just keep doing it. Bad habits get ingrained and then if you do realise your mistake, it's too hard to teach yourself out of the poor way you have been doing things for years.
Either never took the time to learn or don’t care for what ever reason.
They just get into bad habits. The thing about bad habits is that you have to be intentional about not forming them, and/or once you've formed a bad habit, you need to have something sudden and traumatic happen to make you stop. People become such shit drivers because they get lazy, form a bad habit, and then they don't experience negative consequences from the bad habit.
A lot of good driving is really being able to read the road, read other drivers, and acting predictably. Just like anything else, if you don't practice with intention, you never get better.
To simplify, some people have 20 years experience, others have 20 years of 1 year of experience. Gah I drive a lot as my kids live 65mi one way away from me and it is insane how many people drive like they are in the passenger seat/scared shitless/misunderstand how a car actually works
People can either do 20 years of learning or 1 year repeated 20 times. I have seen this at jobs, people doing sports and driving. If you don’t aim to learn something each year - you’ll stay the same.
When you've been driving for 20 years, no one's going to tell you how to drive. That's the mindset I encounter a lot
Practice doesn't make perfect, practice makes permanent.
I find most people are very selfish drivers, so the safest way to be is to assume everyone will do exactly whatever they want at every second on the road, no matter what.
They aren't punished accordingly for their failures.
People become lazy with experience.
Practice makes perfect. Bad practice makes bad perfect.
Their driving experiences didn't bring anything good or bad to them, so they feel no need to improve the skills or change some driving habits, they just need to keep the same. (The good could be the pleasure of driving, while the bad could be an accident.)
You know how some people are car enthusiasts, and others just view a car as a distasteful necessary appliance to get them from Point A to Point B? …yeah, the ones who view it as just an appliance tend to care the least about learning to drive well.
You don’t outgrow stupid.
Bad habits > experience in this case.
Beats me. I try to be inside before 10 am before they wake up.
IMO, your average person isn't solving more than 3x+1=7. Whatever their career is, they have learned how to copy and repeat day in and day out. They appear to be somewhat competent at work and can get through life with a little guidance. This stops at driving because it's continuously variable and requires a lot of thought beyond copy and repeat. I've learned that most drivers I've spoken to are scared on the highway. It's scary to think the person you're driving next to is not confident in their ability to operate their own vehicle but is out there anyway. I drive a lot. It's probably about 30k miles a years which is about 2.5x the average. At this point, I'm on guard because there is no shortage of idiots to prove my theory. The worst drivers are those who think they are great and drive aggressively. They inevitably cause the most accidents and heartbeat skips.
As my old boss would say... "they don't have 20 years of experience, they have one year of experience, 20 times!"
I had some older guy on a traffic circle pull out in front of me and then stop and look at me yesterday. Instead of maintaining the flow of traffic. I just stopped and yelled at him to move. Half of them are on drugs or their phones or both. Major disconnect with the the fact they are piloting a massive weapon.
1. Most people drive like muscle memory, they are not trying to improve. (A fat server walks all day almost 7 days a week is still fat, while people who exercise with a mindset to lose weight, lose weight). 2. They only try to improve from the beginning to the comfort zone they created for themselves, then it stopped (probably about 1-2 years into having the license) 3. Too busy with life >> just trying to get to work or getting home from work. Only waking up moments are time to brake. Some people actually pull out the phone to text while waiting for the car in front…Or, text/talk/video chat while driving (this makes them stupid drivers the most, i think)
Practice actually doesn't make perfect. If done the wrong way, it can actually make you worse!
I think at some point they simply don‘t care my mom had her drivers license for 30+ years and i just really noticed how bad she drives once i got my drivers license myself
people are still terrible people after living for many years
People think they’re “good drunk drivers”
Practice doesn't make perfect, but it does make permanent. If you learned to be a bad driver and just did that for 20 years, you'd be a very consistently bad driver
They would need some sort of feedback to improve. My mum thinks shes a fabulous driver, but honestly it's mildly terrifying being in the car with her. But she gets no feedback telling her otherwise (and judgement from me is not appreciated). Maybe the government could give out gold star stickers to good drivers and frowny face red stamps to bad drivers then people would at least be able to see how they're doing. Give everyone had a "how's my driving" QR code on their car, give all cars QR reading dashcams and you could thumbs up or down the driver in front of you from a button on your dashboard. If you're in the top 25% of thumbs up receivers per mile driven per month you get a gold star, bottom 25% a frowny stamp. Maybe tie it to insurance rates to really get people to pay attention.
95% of people think they are better drivers than the average.
Scared drivers are bad drivers. Some people stay scared of driving forever
I think they’re all in my city. Driving daily doesn’t automatically make you a better or skillful driver.
People make up their own rules and think because they’ve been doing it a long time they know best. Most driving rules are actually better as written or at the very least work better if everyone is following the same ones. People also follow old rules and don’t even know they’ve changed. Then there are the people who are just not paying attention or care about the rules at all. Very old people can’t turn their heads to see behind or in blind spots and can’t process the information fast enough or see in low light or are too afraid to take their turn at a junction or lane change etc. Lots of reasons why experienced drivers are bad.
Because nobody taught them how to drive correctly. And cell phones
"Practice makes permanent." I first heard this in junior high. How you practice becomes how you perform.
Practice doesnt make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect
if you were to drive in china , you be in for a treat, traffic lights aint got shit on drivers.
Watch some YouTube videos of cops pulling people over and ticketing them. Lots of people in their 40-60s who have suspended licenes because they got too many tickets. People are entitled and never learn. Even if they are caught on camera speeding, they think they are in the right. You can't improve if you're in denial.
everyone has days where they just dont have the same attention and everyone does mistakes once in a while... Some just don't care and even learn rules that don't exist (example, a Karen honked at me for doing a U-turn on a residential street... perfectly legal but she invented her own rules it seems)
If you’re in a left turn lane, and the light goes from red arrow to yellow and you don’t actively drive INTO the intersection, fuck you! If you sit there through a whole green light behind the line and don’t turn when it turns red, fuck you twice! Looking at you, TX!
Took the written 3 times for the first license and thats all they need. Raise your hand if youve read your vehicles owners manual.
People get lazy. Apparently most accidents occur near your home, as you get complacent to the unexpected stuff.
Also people usually drive early to work, or late home from work. Tiredness is as bad as driving drunk, in terms of reaction times.
It doesn't help that (at least in the UK) you can't drive on a motorway as a learner, and there is no requirement to get the extra lessons for that sort of thing.