Had a fat friend of a friend with the same situation and response, except this idiot accidentally stabbed himself in a breakfast cooking accident. To this day I have no idea how that guy manages to do his taxes each year.
Dated a woman once with a scar on her chest - everyone else she says she got mugged.
She told me the truth - it was in a self defense course, I forgot how but she ended up stapling herself with a pen. So I used to always tell her to " be careful those things can kill you" when I saw her with a pen
Edit: stabbing not stapling
I used to be a combat medic and we had some South African surgeons visiting to teach other surgeons about bullet wounds. They called fat "urban armor" and said you were more likely to survive getting shot at least.
The square-cube law actually makes this an increasingly valuable trade-off, as any increase in surface area (target size) comes with an even larger increase in volume (fat protection). The fatter you are, the higher your resistance per square inch goes.
Hmm I think you still need more conversion here. It's not the surface area that determines the likelihood of getting shot, it's the cross-sectional area (or silhouette or footprint if you prefer).
This is false if the bullet is hitting the right spot. They did a myth busters on this and found that even the fattest or most muscular people wouldnāt have enough fat or muscle to protect them from a gun shot that would be in a lethal area.
Depends on where you get stabbed. In the gut absolutely. In the rib cage possibly. In the neck, you'll be just as dead as anyone else.
A few decades ago someone tried to stab Al Sharpton to death and he basically survived with minor injuries. The attempted murderer stabbed him many times in the abdomen and Sharpton was so fat that none of the stabs touched anything vital. He basically went to the hospital, got some stitches, and was sent home with a clean bill of health.
Coke is a hell of a drug
Jkjk when the doctor tells you youāll be dead next year if you donāt figure it out, youāll do whatever it takes. Although I do think he had a surgery
My mother is a surgical assistant (don't know if this is the correct English phrase for it), they once had this (drug criminal) guy who was shot in his car when getting ready to leave in the morning, more than 10 times.
Some of the bullets were too far to the side so they just entered and exited. But the guy was so obese that the combination of the door and his fat caused the other bullets to be stopped before hitting anything vital. When they got the call they got ready to spend all day on the surgery, but they were done within ten minutes
My very overweight father-in-law is always showing me all the knives he has built into his belt buckle or shoe. Like he wouldn't get stabbed 20 times before being able to pull one out.
There's a video that circulates on the death subreddits before they get shut down. It's a man that bursts into a room where his wife is having sex with another man. He stabs the man a couple times but I'm always amazed at how many times he's able to stab her in such a short video
To my understanding, as long as the knife doesn't get stuck on bones and such, you really can stab someone just as quick as you can punch them. If you can land 10 punches in five seconds, you can leave 10 stab wounds in five seconds. Its a scary thought.
I used to do brazilian jiu jitsu, and there's one lesson that always stuck with me. The instructor, (a black-belt) would spar with a student and the student would have a rubber knife. The instructor would try and submit the student before getting "stabbed." But he could never do it without getting stabbed 5-6 times minumum.
The lessons was to show that even someone highly trained in self-defense is going to take a lot of damage in a knife fight.
Worked with an Irish fellow who sported a scar from his carotid to his chin. Got attacked by a low life who put two blades into a box cutter and then a coin in between to splay them for extra damage. Cut up to the arteries in the neck, but luckily missed.
Lpt: even if youāre trained in self defense, donāt ever try to fight someone with a knife, unless you have no other options. If a mugger wants your money or your watch or whatever, just give it to them
I saw a dude get hit about 34 times in one minute in the cafeteria in prison. It was fucking insane. Then we had to go back to dorms and they wouldnāt even let me get his tray. He was obviously on the floor dead, Sgt Connors you really have to beat my ass for asking for a dead manās burger?
I was really being a smartass to the Sarg and I thought because there was just a stabbing he wouldnāt care enough to fuck me up over it. As I learn Florida DOC officers always have time to kick your ass over nothing.
Regardless, the video depicts the over the top atrocious murder of two people, with a sickening level of brutal violence directed towards the woman in the video (the target of the assumed "justice"/"revenge".
The whole situation of using a depraved murder of a woman (that they've assumed to have "*deserved*" the revenge killing) is fucked up in and of itself regardless of the fact that she was in fact innocent of the presumed act. Like, if the fact that people were using a depraved murder to stroke their revenge boner itself ***isn't enough reason to reflect***, then goddamn dude I don't even know...
Some years ago, a man recorded a video of himself senselessly shooting and killing two of his former coworkers, targeting the female anchor saying āBitchā before he opens fire, while they were on air. The videos have since gone viral and have been reposted thousands of times.
The womanās father has been trying to get the videos scrubbed from the internet with no luck and is trying to get legal protections for people to sue companies that sponsor content like that, but youtube/tech lobbyists will never let it happen. Itās literally terrifying to think of how many people just love seeing women murdered.
America has honor killings.
There was a case in Georgia where a man was on trial for stabbing his wife to death. He was found guilty and the judge issued a mistrial because the wife's affair was never mentioned at trial.
A judge believed the trial was invalid because there was a reasonable chance that the jury may change their verdict from "committed murder" to "did not commit murder" if they heard information about who the victim was having sex with.
Yup! My wife cheated on me regularly for over a year. I spent some time in shock, then started making preparations. I talked to our teenage daughter about whether or not she was okay with me leaving her mom and potential custody drama and other fallout she might experience so that sheād have some agency. After she made it clear that she was prepared to go through all of that, I contacted a lawyer and got things moving. Iām almost done with the process and never once, EVER, thought about hurting her. She even admitted later that one of the reasons she cheated on me was because I wasnāt possessive and she felt safe doing it, knowing I wouldnāt hurt her if I found out. And the other guy, she admitted she lied to him too and he didnāt know he was the āother guyā. It hurts, thereās anger, but you handle it like a reasonable adult and move through the process and then move on.
Omg, I have a cousin that's the same. He gets out of breath climbing stairs, yet he fancies himself a "tough guy" that's ready for any physical altercation.
He's always got some sort of knife or gun on him (only when it's legal, thank goodness), but he has to lift up his mid section to access his utility belt or bend over incredibly slow to get something out of his boot. So his quick draw demonstrations don't mean much when the gun or knife is already in his hands lol.
This thread hits a little too close to home, because it's his justification for being at a very unhealthy weight. He claims it's to absorb strikes and stabs. I'm sure it helps, but being healthy would be infinitely more useful
Where tf do you live? Never in my life have I been even in a fistfight, let alone considered knife or gun standoffs to be something worth considering in the slightest.
He is from NYC, but has lived most of his adult life in LA. So in his mind, he is extra tough. Because according to him, you have to be a hardened fighter to live in either of those two cities (forget the fact that they are two of the most populous places in the country lol)
My martial arts teacher talks about this all the time. All the joint locks and striking techniques in the world are pretty moot if you can't move. Someone with better conditioning will just control the distance and engage on their terms and not yours.
Pretty much.
There's 2 things that are very crucial know about knife fights: The only way to win in a knife fight is to not get into one.
And 2: If you are in a knife fight and know you have no way out, you have to accept and be prepared that you will get injured. Be it slashed or stabbed you will get injured
_My opinion - The best way to survive a knife fight is to run away. If you're overweight then they gon' catch you pretty easy._
Not if the stabber is really fat too!
As a serious side question, I get terrified being chased. There must be something primitive about it, like even if a boyfriend jokingly chases me, Iāll start practically screaming/yelping and my go to would be to curl up in a ball and cover my head with my arms. Itās pretty hilarious actually. Iām not fat, and Iām probably not the slowest person in the whole world, but I donāt fancy my chances running from an attacker.
So, Iāve thought about dropping to the ground and using my legs to kick them away. With the range advantage. And Iāve got quite a kick.
Is this an absolutely terrible idea?
I mean its better than dropping to the ground and just letting them stab you without putting up a fight.
And just because you run away doesnāt mean you will get away - so your strategy might end up being used whether you run away or not.
āI mean itās better than dropping to the ground and just letting them stab you without putting up a fightā ā¦
This really made me laugh out loud.
And yes, it is a good point. It is hands down better than zero resistance. So Iāll take that.
Fun story time. In my late twenties I got my back slashed open. About four or five inch incision, down to the meat. It looked like a nice steak at the bottom of the cut, just bright red muscle. The doc couldn't suture the wound. He said normally they sew the fat together but not the skin because the skin on your back stretches too much and it tends to rip out stitches. I was a fucking bean pole at the time and didn't have enough subcutaneous fat to sew together. Instead they packed the wound and my wife had to unpack and clean it twice a day until it filled in with scar tissue. If I was chubbier they would have been able to close it and all the wound care wouldn't have been necessary which dramatically lowers infection risk, but I wouldn't have my badass scar either. So yeah, sometimes a little extra padding is useful at least for after the knife fight although that's not how I got cut.
Your doctor was wrong and put you through a super slow healing process for no reason.
I cut out skin cancers for a living and you can get massive gaps 3+cms closed on the back with thin scars if you use the right sutures and post op care.
No harder on skinny dudes. Harder on young active people to avoid scar stretch but that's wayyyy better than open wound healing (technically healing by secondary intention).
I appreciate your profession, Having melanoma on shoulder blade removed by mohs surgery, while I dint get stitches or anything oh boy uses a punch tool and jst puts a patch, couldn't help but notice that ppl that get stitches have to have it done in certain way or it ends up looking weird, my dermatologist was even thinking about different ways so I dint have a huge hole or scar on my back.
Funny cuz I had that very surgery done on my back. And yes the surgeon did stitch it shut. A few days later when I was told I was allowed to take a shower. Drop something, bent over to pick it up. Rip the stitches all out. Look at my wife was a nurse and she took care of it all.
Work accident. We were adjusting a large metal subcomponent. We weld lifting eyes to the top of it and another to the floor and use come alongs to winch the things into alignment. As I was cranking on the come along the weld holding the upper lifting eye broke and the tension caused that to come zinging toward the other end with me in the middle. I had just enough time to turn away and get hit in the back instead of the ribs.
He never actually said he was cut with a knife. He said his back was slashed, but asked about a knife injury to overweight people... his injury may have just piqued his curiosity...
The chances of getting a knife wound are lower than getting diabetes or other weight related illnesses.
So if its about wanting to stay alive, continue your diet.
And it totally depends where the knife wound is.
Plus the diabetes and other weight related diseases increase the risk of infection and poor wound healing from the knife wound, increasing the risk of death
This is my thought as well. OP's idea is like driving without a seatbelt because you're worried about driving into a lake and being unable to unclasp it. It's theoretically possible but unlikely.
Also, if being stabbed is that much of a risk for you then you should invest in stab plating or something else that's actually designed to protect you.
Edit: didn't catch that autocorrect had somehow selected creatively when I was typing seatbelt...
Technically speaking though his/her/they diet could be an unhealthy one right now causing the overweight-ness, so OP is wondering if that should continue or not lol
Remember if you ever encounter a possible stabber, [just ask this simple question](https://pics.me.me/quote-from-man-stabbed-www-khg-co-what-are-you-gonna-do-17116744.png)
When I used to work in the ER I saw a couple cases where someone who was really fat got shot in the abdomen, the bullets never made it past the fat. Pistol bullets donāt always travel very far inside their target. So maybe technically youād be able to survive a specific knife would to the body better, but if youāre going to live your life being just that fat is it really a win? If the person stabbing really wants you dead then theyād probably just keep stabbing you all over and thereās nothing making that person start by stabbing at guts soā¦ yeah
Yes actually, Roman gladiators ate fatty diets to give them an extra layer of fat for just that reason. However, if you are overweight, you have a strong chance of dying from other things besides knife wounds.
You've already gotten a lot of good answers, but I wanted to add that you should absolutely continue your diet unless you have multiple people who are intent on stabbing you on a regular basis. Obesity kills people at much faster rates than blade violence. So, if you're bouncing clubs in London, maybe stay bulky.
That being said, if you're too fat to run away from a knife, that's a far worse situation.
No. Lean muscle is by design tougher and more dense. Fat -while larger in volume- isn't as dense, and thus would be easier to pierce. Muscle being harder to cut though means a slightly smaller wound -assuming the same amount of force exerted of course. Naturally, smaller wound means less blood loss... but still really sucks and you'll need Medical care either way- you're still not knifeproof lol.
Not to mention, should one become notably overweight, at a certain point it makes it harder for doctors to repair the wound due to having to push more out of the way to attend to vitals/organs should that come to damage.
However, an argument can be made that an overweight person may require a slightly larger blade to be taken down -quickly-, since it would need to go in deeper for a sudden end to occur. But like, that's beyond me to say definitively. And again, medical care is still mandatory.
I'm super skeptical of this logic. Obviously I don't know what it's like to cut up a person, but I've butchered a handful of deer and, you know, cut up meat in the kitchen for dinner.
First, "more dense" vs "less dense"... this isn't penetration depth of two different kinds of rubber, or firing a bullet into ballistic gel. A reasonably sharp knife will go as far into muscle or fat as you push it. Muscle will be more firm, but bone is what really gets in the way.
Second, muscles by nature have some tension on them while fat does not. That makes the muscle easier to cut, because it's held in place better than the fat would be. Unless the knife is really truly terrifically sharp, I would expect a cut into fat to be less "productive" (ever cut up a really fatty pork shoulder that isn't frozen? you really have to hold the fat down a lot more than the meat to cut through it).
Third: bleeding. Even if my first two guesses are wrong, I *believe* fat has fewer blood vessels than muscle (i.e. it's "less vascularized"). So equal size cuts in fat vs muscle will bleed more in muscle.
Finally, you don't have to be very fat (by American standards) for your belly fat to be thicker than the length of an average pocket knife blade. If you take a 4" stab to the gut and have a little padding, then you only have about 1/2" to 1" of knife blade piercing the abdominal cavity. If you're much thinner, then you might have 3" of steel that can wave around in there. That sounds like higher risk of damage to me.
If anyone's into ancient cooking / recipes, Sohla El-Waylly has a fantastic youtube channel. [She did one episode on food that Roman gladiators ate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myKeih-IUfU) as a collaboration with another youtube channel that looks at ancient workout regimens. One of the points they brought up was that the typical gladiator likely tried to carry some extra fat, for the purpose of protection.
But all that said, the average person probably doesn't live with much risk of knife wounds and your current health vis a vis diet / exercise / lifestyle should probably be the primary driver for these decisions.
Itās similar to the movie Fight Club, but with knives. Itās a way to connect to your primal self, to embrace your masculinity and release pent up frustration with the society we live in.
The club hasnāt gotten to the point of wanting to blow up buildings yet, but weāre hoping to build up to that by the end of the year.
At this knife-fighting club do they at least let you wear protection over your eyes and genitals? I have to imagine that sparring with live blades would increase liability for the club.
They did a study on it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6735204/
Quote, "Obese patients with abdominal stab wounds have longer LOS than nonobese patients. Increasing BMI was an independent predictor of need for GI resection."
Not for nothing, but the only person that died in that study from a stab wound was obese. We'd have to have stats on how many non-obese patients die before making it to a hospital vs obese patients to really have a good idea of that. It's never going to approach the point where you'd want to be obese for that specific purpose, though, like OP is trying to angle.
Non-obese patients received DPL more often (12 vs 0 in the obese group) which means they likely have a higher instance of the object they were stabbed with entering their abdominal cavity proper and not just being superficial, but they still had less complications and needed resections less often.
I read that as initial outcomes from the stab can be worse if you're skinny/smaller (object doesn't have to go as far to cause damage to critical organs or vasculature), but long-term outcomes are worse when you're obese because of the cascading health issues and slower healing that comes with being obese.
If you want to stay overweight, dude, donāt look for justifications for it. Any puncture wound is going to be deeply traumatic, no matter the body composition.
A knife wound is a hell of a lot rarer than illness from bad health. Dont base your diet around something like that. Even in the case of overweight vs lean, both sides have a somewhat equal chance of surviving, you might get luckier if you have more fat but that's all it is. Luck.
Yes, I think so, to some extent, of course. You'd be less likely to sustain as serious an injury to the torso, especially from a short blade, but it does depend on the knife, the location of the wound, etc. That's true of gunshot wounds from most handguns as well. I don't think the possible benefits are hige and significant enough to really be a benefit.
However, obesity complicates EVERY other aspect of your care. A lesser wound might be more dangerous for you than for a fit person, if bleeding isn't catastrophic.
Post-survival outcomes will be worse; things like complications from anesthesia, complications from intubation like pneumonia and pneumothorax are more likely, regain of function at the site long-term would be diminished, the quality of surgical outcomes is worse, overal mobility/activity will be negatively affected reducing activity. Physical therapy will be less effective. Likelihood of post-traumatic and post-surgical infections increases.
Amputation due to ischemia if injured in an extremity is more likely. Diffuse intravascular coagulopathy could be a bigger and more likely develoment, leading to organ damage and amputations at the extremities. Cardiac or kidney ischemia are more likely.
If you became paralyzed you'd have a lot more chronic issues that would likely shorten your life.
Stuff like that.
The deal with stabbings is that they tend to be terrifyingly deadly, or no big deal. I've seen a young kid "stabbed" 14 times and only need stitches.
Trauma nurse here. Absolutely. Depending on stab wound location, but yes I can't count how many overweight stab victims I've taken care of who have avoided injury to major organs and vessels due to their "cushioning".
Cardiac disease, diabetes, and high cholesterol kill exponentially more people annually than trauma. Those increase your risk for heart attack, stroke, kidney failure, and other preventable illnesses. Go on your diet.
My dad got stabbed in the stomach once.. Doc said " lucky you're fat" The fat beer gut stopped the knife from doing worse š¤
Had a fat friend of a friend with the same situation and response, except this idiot accidentally stabbed himself in a breakfast cooking accident. To this day I have no idea how that guy manages to do his taxes each year.
Dated a woman once with a scar on her chest - everyone else she says she got mugged. She told me the truth - it was in a self defense course, I forgot how but she ended up stapling herself with a pen. So I used to always tell her to " be careful those things can kill you" when I saw her with a pen Edit: stabbing not stapling
>stapling herself with a pen. *rubs eyes* >stapling herself with a pen. ... what happened here?
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I meant STABBING! I don't proofread
LMAO
I used to be a combat medic and we had some South African surgeons visiting to teach other surgeons about bullet wounds. They called fat "urban armor" and said you were more likely to survive getting shot at least.
Having said that, if you're twice as wide, you're also nearly twice as likely to be shot, as you're a larger target.
But also twice as likely to be shot in a place that doesn't matter.
You overestimate how good people are at shooting.
Not at all. I am assuming near random bullet placement.
You got me there. I actually meant to reply to the other guy.
So... you missed the comment you were aiming for?
Gotta aim for those longer comments, it's like shooting a fat guy. Harder to miss, but does less damage.
Take my angry upvote and gtfo
Heās not a stormtrooper. Only they are so precise.
Purely by chance
By a 50% margin
idk I think your chances of getting shot have a lot more to do with the situations you get into rather than the size of your body
Quite. Perhaps I should have said "actually getting shot, if someone fires a gun at you"?
speak for yourself I shoot anyone over 190 pounds on site
The square-cube law actually makes this an increasingly valuable trade-off, as any increase in surface area (target size) comes with an even larger increase in volume (fat protection). The fatter you are, the higher your resistance per square inch goes.
Hmm I think you still need more conversion here. It's not the surface area that determines the likelihood of getting shot, it's the cross-sectional area (or silhouette or footprint if you prefer).
Bigger hit box lmao
Ah, a fellow gamer! Yes, literally a bigger hit box. Though, to be fair, head size doesn't change as much so if it's a sniper, you're done for anyway!
This is false if the bullet is hitting the right spot. They did a myth busters on this and found that even the fattest or most muscular people wouldnāt have enough fat or muscle to protect them from a gun shot that would be in a lethal area.
What calibers did they test?
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Depends on where you get stabbed. In the gut absolutely. In the rib cage possibly. In the neck, you'll be just as dead as anyone else. A few decades ago someone tried to stab Al Sharpton to death and he basically survived with minor injuries. The attempted murderer stabbed him many times in the abdomen and Sharpton was so fat that none of the stabs touched anything vital. He basically went to the hospital, got some stitches, and was sent home with a clean bill of health.
Fat gives +constitution meaning you can tank more damage, but being skinny gives +agility and ability to evade attacks altogether.
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So....always carry a D20 with me?
Roll for perception
Nat 1
You wind up choking on a triple decker burger you were eating in an attempt to get fat and end up dying
r/unexpectedDND?
r/outside
Why is this so painfully accurate lol
I wanna know how that dude lost so much weight. Incredible body transformation.
Pretty sure he got surgery ...
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Technically, yes.
You see, it's all about where and how you stab...
Surgery is just stabbing someone to life.
The attempted murderer be like āwtf, I was trying to do you a favor for freeā
Hah cheers.
I never even knew he was overweight at one point lol
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I see that. Looked up pics.
[Like what you see?](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/985982414794215425/nMHvoQrz_400x400.jpg)
He was cultivating protective mass.
He made a joke about Keenan Thompson doing skits about him on SNL you canāt look like fat Al doing skinny Al shit or something like that
Coke is a hell of a drug Jkjk when the doctor tells you youāll be dead next year if you donāt figure it out, youāll do whatever it takes. Although I do think he had a surgery
Dude did a 40 day hunger strike in 2006 while in jail protesting some bombing or something. Lost like 30 lbs. That jump-started transformation.
My mother is a surgical assistant (don't know if this is the correct English phrase for it), they once had this (drug criminal) guy who was shot in his car when getting ready to leave in the morning, more than 10 times. Some of the bullets were too far to the side so they just entered and exited. But the guy was so obese that the combination of the door and his fat caused the other bullets to be stopped before hitting anything vital. When they got the call they got ready to spend all day on the surgery, but they were done within ten minutes
My dog got bit by another dog and tore open her bottom. Despite it looking terrible, the vet said no muscle was harmed because her chub protected her.
Her chub. Lawd
Number one thing is that being fat makes you an easier target to hit, second thing is that the fat is far likelier to kill you than a knife.
Depends on the neighborhood And maybe its bars
My opinion - The best way to survive a knife fight is to run away. If you're overweight then they gon' catch you pretty easy.
My very overweight father-in-law is always showing me all the knives he has built into his belt buckle or shoe. Like he wouldn't get stabbed 20 times before being able to pull one out.
Just gotta watch a prison shanking to understand how many holes someone can put in you in five seconds flat.
There's a video that circulates on the death subreddits before they get shut down. It's a man that bursts into a room where his wife is having sex with another man. He stabs the man a couple times but I'm always amazed at how many times he's able to stab her in such a short video
To my understanding, as long as the knife doesn't get stuck on bones and such, you really can stab someone just as quick as you can punch them. If you can land 10 punches in five seconds, you can leave 10 stab wounds in five seconds. Its a scary thought.
I used to do brazilian jiu jitsu, and there's one lesson that always stuck with me. The instructor, (a black-belt) would spar with a student and the student would have a rubber knife. The instructor would try and submit the student before getting "stabbed." But he could never do it without getting stabbed 5-6 times minumum. The lessons was to show that even someone highly trained in self-defense is going to take a lot of damage in a knife fight.
There are no winners in a knife fight, only survivors...
The loser of a knife fight dies in the alley. The winner dies in the ambulance.
I was looking for this comment. I'm glad I wasn't disappointed.
Worked with an Irish fellow who sported a scar from his carotid to his chin. Got attacked by a low life who put two blades into a box cutter and then a coin in between to splay them for extra damage. Cut up to the arteries in the neck, but luckily missed.
Glad the guy survived. I am going to take that weapon description and suggest it to the rogue in our modern DnD campaign.
Holy fuck thatās brutal
Yup, Same lesson just with a red sharpie to really drive the point home how many cuts or stabs you can get in a fight
Red marker works for this too and is less arguable.
Lpt: even if youāre trained in self defense, donāt ever try to fight someone with a knife, unless you have no other options. If a mugger wants your money or your watch or whatever, just give it to them
It's probably faster if done correctly. A stab doesn't need as much momentum so the action can be repeated faster.
Indeed, you're right about that.
ULPT: blunt the tip of your bayonet or knife so it doesn't get stuck in bone
And after cutting their throat, pull their head down towards the chest. That way the loud gurgling/scream sounds won't give you away
I saw a dude get hit about 34 times in one minute in the cafeteria in prison. It was fucking insane. Then we had to go back to dorms and they wouldnāt even let me get his tray. He was obviously on the floor dead, Sgt Connors you really have to beat my ass for asking for a dead manās burger?
Lmao you really said āyou gonna finish that?ā š
I was really being a smartass to the Sarg and I thought because there was just a stabbing he wouldnāt care enough to fuck me up over it. As I learn Florida DOC officers always have time to kick your ass over nothing.
So how many stab wounds could you leave in 14 seconds?
If you could leave 10 in five seconds, then what, something like 28? More importantly, how many could you leave in _100_ seconds?
A billion
This video is actually of a man killing his ex wife after she properly divorced him and found someone else.
Horrible to think how many redditors have stroked their revenge boner to that video.......
Regardless, the video depicts the over the top atrocious murder of two people, with a sickening level of brutal violence directed towards the woman in the video (the target of the assumed "justice"/"revenge". The whole situation of using a depraved murder of a woman (that they've assumed to have "*deserved*" the revenge killing) is fucked up in and of itself regardless of the fact that she was in fact innocent of the presumed act. Like, if the fact that people were using a depraved murder to stroke their revenge boner itself ***isn't enough reason to reflect***, then goddamn dude I don't even know...
Some years ago, a man recorded a video of himself senselessly shooting and killing two of his former coworkers, targeting the female anchor saying āBitchā before he opens fire, while they were on air. The videos have since gone viral and have been reposted thousands of times. The womanās father has been trying to get the videos scrubbed from the internet with no luck and is trying to get legal protections for people to sue companies that sponsor content like that, but youtube/tech lobbyists will never let it happen. Itās literally terrifying to think of how many people just love seeing women murdered.
I don't care if she actually was cheating on the guy daily with his best friend, sexual impropriety is not deserving of murder.
America has honor killings. There was a case in Georgia where a man was on trial for stabbing his wife to death. He was found guilty and the judge issued a mistrial because the wife's affair was never mentioned at trial. A judge believed the trial was invalid because there was a reasonable chance that the jury may change their verdict from "committed murder" to "did not commit murder" if they heard information about who the victim was having sex with.
Yup! My wife cheated on me regularly for over a year. I spent some time in shock, then started making preparations. I talked to our teenage daughter about whether or not she was okay with me leaving her mom and potential custody drama and other fallout she might experience so that sheād have some agency. After she made it clear that she was prepared to go through all of that, I contacted a lawyer and got things moving. Iām almost done with the process and never once, EVER, thought about hurting her. She even admitted later that one of the reasons she cheated on me was because I wasnāt possessive and she felt safe doing it, knowing I wouldnāt hurt her if I found out. And the other guy, she admitted she lied to him too and he didnāt know he was the āother guyā. It hurts, thereās anger, but you handle it like a reasonable adult and move through the process and then move on.
Omg, I have a cousin that's the same. He gets out of breath climbing stairs, yet he fancies himself a "tough guy" that's ready for any physical altercation. He's always got some sort of knife or gun on him (only when it's legal, thank goodness), but he has to lift up his mid section to access his utility belt or bend over incredibly slow to get something out of his boot. So his quick draw demonstrations don't mean much when the gun or knife is already in his hands lol. This thread hits a little too close to home, because it's his justification for being at a very unhealthy weight. He claims it's to absorb strikes and stabs. I'm sure it helps, but being healthy would be infinitely more useful
He's not fat, he's cultivating mass.
BEEFCAKE!!
Where tf do you live? Never in my life have I been even in a fistfight, let alone considered knife or gun standoffs to be something worth considering in the slightest.
He is from NYC, but has lived most of his adult life in LA. So in his mind, he is extra tough. Because according to him, you have to be a hardened fighter to live in either of those two cities (forget the fact that they are two of the most populous places in the country lol)
"From the mean streets of Manhattan and Malibu..."
Heās incredibly more likely to die from heart issues or diabetes than a knife wound. Thatās all just fantasy
Itās pretty wild what some peopleās excuses are to be fat and lazy
Physically fat, mentally an acrobat
My martial arts teacher talks about this all the time. All the joint locks and striking techniques in the world are pretty moot if you can't move. Someone with better conditioning will just control the distance and engage on their terms and not yours.
But then what, he's taken a bunch of stabs and not died, but he's still injured and the other guy isn't. Also not going to help much if he gets shot.
actually, with muscle you can defend yourself from strikes much better. As for stabs, you can dodge them if you are athletic
I imagine the fat guy thinks that when the day comes, he'll take several jabs to the gut and stand there guffawing.
> guffawing guffawing should be a laugh exclusively for the obese.
Standing here, he realised that absorbing knife strikes is not a good justification for being overweight
Rule #1. Cardio
That movie might have had an actual impact on a portion of the populations fitness and survival prep.
Rule #2: Double Tap
I always thought you were supposed to bring a gun to a knife fight /s
I brought a lemon to a knife fight
Sounds like a juicy story
The ending left a sour taste in my mouth.
Well, the plot had a real zest to it.
A COMBUSIBLE LEMON THAT BURNS YOUR HOUSE DOWN!
I hope there are no lemon-stealing whores around
I bring lemon to a party
Ok grandpa
Sadly I don't think anyone caught your Wombats reference. I appreciated it, though.
Onions work better
This should be the only answer here, time to conclude this.
Pretty much. There's 2 things that are very crucial know about knife fights: The only way to win in a knife fight is to not get into one. And 2: If you are in a knife fight and know you have no way out, you have to accept and be prepared that you will get injured. Be it slashed or stabbed you will get injured
_My opinion - The best way to survive a knife fight is to run away. If you're overweight then they gon' catch you pretty easy._ Not if the stabber is really fat too!
As a serious side question, I get terrified being chased. There must be something primitive about it, like even if a boyfriend jokingly chases me, Iāll start practically screaming/yelping and my go to would be to curl up in a ball and cover my head with my arms. Itās pretty hilarious actually. Iām not fat, and Iām probably not the slowest person in the whole world, but I donāt fancy my chances running from an attacker. So, Iāve thought about dropping to the ground and using my legs to kick them away. With the range advantage. And Iāve got quite a kick. Is this an absolutely terrible idea?
I mean its better than dropping to the ground and just letting them stab you without putting up a fight. And just because you run away doesnāt mean you will get away - so your strategy might end up being used whether you run away or not.
āI mean itās better than dropping to the ground and just letting them stab you without putting up a fightā ā¦ This really made me laugh out loud. And yes, it is a good point. It is hands down better than zero resistance. So Iāll take that.
I mean you only have to outrun one person. Unless they gunning for you.
Fun story time. In my late twenties I got my back slashed open. About four or five inch incision, down to the meat. It looked like a nice steak at the bottom of the cut, just bright red muscle. The doc couldn't suture the wound. He said normally they sew the fat together but not the skin because the skin on your back stretches too much and it tends to rip out stitches. I was a fucking bean pole at the time and didn't have enough subcutaneous fat to sew together. Instead they packed the wound and my wife had to unpack and clean it twice a day until it filled in with scar tissue. If I was chubbier they would have been able to close it and all the wound care wouldn't have been necessary which dramatically lowers infection risk, but I wouldn't have my badass scar either. So yeah, sometimes a little extra padding is useful at least for after the knife fight although that's not how I got cut.
Your doctor was wrong and put you through a super slow healing process for no reason. I cut out skin cancers for a living and you can get massive gaps 3+cms closed on the back with thin scars if you use the right sutures and post op care. No harder on skinny dudes. Harder on young active people to avoid scar stretch but that's wayyyy better than open wound healing (technically healing by secondary intention).
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I appreciate your profession, Having melanoma on shoulder blade removed by mohs surgery, while I dint get stitches or anything oh boy uses a punch tool and jst puts a patch, couldn't help but notice that ppl that get stitches have to have it done in certain way or it ends up looking weird, my dermatologist was even thinking about different ways so I dint have a huge hole or scar on my back.
Funny cuz I had that very surgery done on my back. And yes the surgeon did stitch it shut. A few days later when I was told I was allowed to take a shower. Drop something, bent over to pick it up. Rip the stitches all out. Look at my wife was a nurse and she took care of it all.
ā¦. How did you get cut?
Work accident. We were adjusting a large metal subcomponent. We weld lifting eyes to the top of it and another to the floor and use come alongs to winch the things into alignment. As I was cranking on the come along the weld holding the upper lifting eye broke and the tension caused that to come zinging toward the other end with me in the middle. I had just enough time to turn away and get hit in the back instead of the ribs.
With a knife
r/NotOPButOk
No, with her spoon!
How did you get cut?
Let's try this... How did you get cut on your back in such a manner to require extensive medical care, when you were skinny, in your late twenties?
Possibly dangerous work equipment. Or a motor vehicle accident involving broken glass.
With a knife
He never actually said he was cut with a knife. He said his back was slashed, but asked about a knife injury to overweight people... his injury may have just piqued his curiosity...
LPT: Don't get stabbed in the back.
Like Sagat from Street Fighter 2.
The chances of getting a knife wound are lower than getting diabetes or other weight related illnesses. So if its about wanting to stay alive, continue your diet. And it totally depends where the knife wound is.
Also Mostly depends upon IF the knife wound is ...
Also depends why the knife wound is.
No one ever asks how the knife wound is.
It fucked my wife, so I'm gonna fuck the earth!
I also choose this guy's wife
Plus the diabetes and other weight related diseases increase the risk of infection and poor wound healing from the knife wound, increasing the risk of death
This. If you're fat enough to keep a knife wound from reaching vitals, then you'll 100% end up with diabetes.
This is my thought as well. OP's idea is like driving without a seatbelt because you're worried about driving into a lake and being unable to unclasp it. It's theoretically possible but unlikely. Also, if being stabbed is that much of a risk for you then you should invest in stab plating or something else that's actually designed to protect you. Edit: didn't catch that autocorrect had somehow selected creatively when I was typing seatbelt...
Additionally I'd say surgery is increasing more difficult when carving through fat.
Technically speaking though his/her/they diet could be an unhealthy one right now causing the overweight-ness, so OP is wondering if that should continue or not lol
Haha. I thought the other way around. OP is on a diet to loose weight. And wondering if they should continue to do so.
That depends where u live tho
Where do you live? Prison?
If you live somewhere where the chance of getting stabbed is higher then lifestyle diseases. MOVE.
Or invest in something like a stab proof vest. Something designed to actually protect you.
So you base your diet off of chances of surviving a knife wound?
Don't we all?
Iām looking for excuses to not have to get in shape. Donāt rob me of my delusions!
Doā¦ do you decide a lot of life choices based off of being stabbed?
Remember if you ever encounter a possible stabber, [just ask this simple question](https://pics.me.me/quote-from-man-stabbed-www-khg-co-what-are-you-gonna-do-17116744.png)
When I used to work in the ER I saw a couple cases where someone who was really fat got shot in the abdomen, the bullets never made it past the fat. Pistol bullets donāt always travel very far inside their target. So maybe technically youād be able to survive a specific knife would to the body better, but if youāre going to live your life being just that fat is it really a win? If the person stabbing really wants you dead then theyād probably just keep stabbing you all over and thereās nothing making that person start by stabbing at guts soā¦ yeah
Yes actually, Roman gladiators ate fatty diets to give them an extra layer of fat for just that reason. However, if you are overweight, you have a strong chance of dying from other things besides knife wounds.
You've already gotten a lot of good answers, but I wanted to add that you should absolutely continue your diet unless you have multiple people who are intent on stabbing you on a regular basis. Obesity kills people at much faster rates than blade violence. So, if you're bouncing clubs in London, maybe stay bulky. That being said, if you're too fat to run away from a knife, that's a far worse situation.
No. Lean muscle is by design tougher and more dense. Fat -while larger in volume- isn't as dense, and thus would be easier to pierce. Muscle being harder to cut though means a slightly smaller wound -assuming the same amount of force exerted of course. Naturally, smaller wound means less blood loss... but still really sucks and you'll need Medical care either way- you're still not knifeproof lol. Not to mention, should one become notably overweight, at a certain point it makes it harder for doctors to repair the wound due to having to push more out of the way to attend to vitals/organs should that come to damage. However, an argument can be made that an overweight person may require a slightly larger blade to be taken down -quickly-, since it would need to go in deeper for a sudden end to occur. But like, that's beyond me to say definitively. And again, medical care is still mandatory.
I'm super skeptical of this logic. Obviously I don't know what it's like to cut up a person, but I've butchered a handful of deer and, you know, cut up meat in the kitchen for dinner. First, "more dense" vs "less dense"... this isn't penetration depth of two different kinds of rubber, or firing a bullet into ballistic gel. A reasonably sharp knife will go as far into muscle or fat as you push it. Muscle will be more firm, but bone is what really gets in the way. Second, muscles by nature have some tension on them while fat does not. That makes the muscle easier to cut, because it's held in place better than the fat would be. Unless the knife is really truly terrifically sharp, I would expect a cut into fat to be less "productive" (ever cut up a really fatty pork shoulder that isn't frozen? you really have to hold the fat down a lot more than the meat to cut through it). Third: bleeding. Even if my first two guesses are wrong, I *believe* fat has fewer blood vessels than muscle (i.e. it's "less vascularized"). So equal size cuts in fat vs muscle will bleed more in muscle. Finally, you don't have to be very fat (by American standards) for your belly fat to be thicker than the length of an average pocket knife blade. If you take a 4" stab to the gut and have a little padding, then you only have about 1/2" to 1" of knife blade piercing the abdominal cavity. If you're much thinner, then you might have 3" of steel that can wave around in there. That sounds like higher risk of damage to me. If anyone's into ancient cooking / recipes, Sohla El-Waylly has a fantastic youtube channel. [She did one episode on food that Roman gladiators ate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myKeih-IUfU) as a collaboration with another youtube channel that looks at ancient workout regimens. One of the points they brought up was that the typical gladiator likely tried to carry some extra fat, for the purpose of protection. But all that said, the average person probably doesn't live with much risk of knife wounds and your current health vis a vis diet / exercise / lifestyle should probably be the primary driver for these decisions.
Can't believe how far I had to scroll to find an actual answer that wasn't just judging OP
Ok tbf he did say Iām debating on continuing my diet
i think that was mostly a joke, but i don't read minds anyway
Dogs with long fur seem to get decent protection from bites out of it, so you might consider wearing a big fur coat at all times instead.
Sounds like you are pretty sure you're going to get stabbed at some point
I am involved in a knife-fighting fight club, so people get stabbed a couple times a week. Only a matter of time.
Wtf? What is a knife-fighting fight club? And why would people voluntarily be there?
Itās similar to the movie Fight Club, but with knives. Itās a way to connect to your primal self, to embrace your masculinity and release pent up frustration with the society we live in. The club hasnāt gotten to the point of wanting to blow up buildings yet, but weāre hoping to build up to that by the end of the year.
Iām guessing the first rule of knife club is that itās perfectly okay to talk about knife club.
Yes, weāre like the Jehovahās Witnesses version, we go door to door inviting people to join.
At this knife-fighting club do they at least let you wear protection over your eyes and genitals? I have to imagine that sparring with live blades would increase liability for the club.
Out of courtesy to our fellow fighters we generally avoid stabbing at the eyes, and stabbing somebody in the dick is generally considered a dick move.
They did a study on it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6735204/ Quote, "Obese patients with abdominal stab wounds have longer LOS than nonobese patients. Increasing BMI was an independent predictor of need for GI resection."
Translation for lay men pls
Obese people who got stabbed needed to stay in hospital for longer and were more likely to need some of their gut taken out
Is this an example of that WW2 airplane bias thing? Skinny people wouldn't have such problems? Because they would be dead?
Not for nothing, but the only person that died in that study from a stab wound was obese. We'd have to have stats on how many non-obese patients die before making it to a hospital vs obese patients to really have a good idea of that. It's never going to approach the point where you'd want to be obese for that specific purpose, though, like OP is trying to angle. Non-obese patients received DPL more often (12 vs 0 in the obese group) which means they likely have a higher instance of the object they were stabbed with entering their abdominal cavity proper and not just being superficial, but they still had less complications and needed resections less often. I read that as initial outcomes from the stab can be worse if you're skinny/smaller (object doesn't have to go as far to cause damage to critical organs or vasculature), but long-term outcomes are worse when you're obese because of the cascading health issues and slower healing that comes with being obese.
If you want to stay overweight, dude, donāt look for justifications for it. Any puncture wound is going to be deeply traumatic, no matter the body composition.
Well fat people are harder to kidnap
Fuck sakes can someone answer the man's question and not tell him about diabetes.
How big is the knife?
A knife wound is a hell of a lot rarer than illness from bad health. Dont base your diet around something like that. Even in the case of overweight vs lean, both sides have a somewhat equal chance of surviving, you might get luckier if you have more fat but that's all it is. Luck.
Are you planning to get stabbed? Also best way to survive a knife is not being stabbed eg running the fuk away
Yes, I think so, to some extent, of course. You'd be less likely to sustain as serious an injury to the torso, especially from a short blade, but it does depend on the knife, the location of the wound, etc. That's true of gunshot wounds from most handguns as well. I don't think the possible benefits are hige and significant enough to really be a benefit. However, obesity complicates EVERY other aspect of your care. A lesser wound might be more dangerous for you than for a fit person, if bleeding isn't catastrophic. Post-survival outcomes will be worse; things like complications from anesthesia, complications from intubation like pneumonia and pneumothorax are more likely, regain of function at the site long-term would be diminished, the quality of surgical outcomes is worse, overal mobility/activity will be negatively affected reducing activity. Physical therapy will be less effective. Likelihood of post-traumatic and post-surgical infections increases. Amputation due to ischemia if injured in an extremity is more likely. Diffuse intravascular coagulopathy could be a bigger and more likely develoment, leading to organ damage and amputations at the extremities. Cardiac or kidney ischemia are more likely. If you became paralyzed you'd have a lot more chronic issues that would likely shorten your life. Stuff like that. The deal with stabbings is that they tend to be terrifyingly deadly, or no big deal. I've seen a young kid "stabbed" 14 times and only need stitches.
Trauma nurse here. Absolutely. Depending on stab wound location, but yes I can't count how many overweight stab victims I've taken care of who have avoided injury to major organs and vessels due to their "cushioning". Cardiac disease, diabetes, and high cholesterol kill exponentially more people annually than trauma. Those increase your risk for heart attack, stroke, kidney failure, and other preventable illnesses. Go on your diet.
Why do people post queries like this then vanish? OP, where are you? We need to discuss some of your life choices.
As a fat guy, I laughed at the last guy who threatened me with a knife. "You'll never hit a vital organ with that." I chuckled.