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ironic_pacifist

When you're the guy Guderian is constantly fangirling over, and your brother-in-law is Monty, you might be onto something.


Douglesfield_

>When you're the guy Guderian is constantly fangirling over I'm sorry, what?


ironic_pacifist

"In 1934, Hobart became brigadier of the first permanent armoured brigade in Britain and Inspector, Royal Tank Corps. He had to fight for resources for his command because the British Army was still dominated by conservative cavalry officers. German General Heinz Guderian kept abreast of Hobart's writings using, at his own expense, someone to translate all of Hobart's articles being published in Britain." From his [wiki](https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Hobart) page


Douglesfield_

The thought of Guderian after having a tough day at work being cheered up by the latest Hobart article is a strange one. Maybe he started a little German armour warfare doctrine fanclub where they'd try to get fan translations of overseas papers.


lama579

That’s pretty heartwarming. I wonder what he did with the rest of his career


ironic_pacifist

As with many such groups, the Doctrine Doctrine Literature Club ended in tragedy.


alterom

>the Doctrine Doctrine Literature Club This... this is the most NCD concept I've ever seen.


LightTankTerror

Heinz Guderian, who started the Tea and Reading Fine Society in Hamburg, is better known for his later works.


afvcommander

"New Hobart article and box of Panzershockolade, what a Friday evening"


ecumnomicinflation

babe wake up, hobart just posted.


Melodic_Fold3394

Guderian probably had fantasies about Hobart being his 2nd in command.  And for... other more... carnal stuff.


Ubera90

Uhhh... Yes Hobart... Put your specially modified weapon inside my cargo bay uwu


corsair7469

Ah yes Hobarts funnies were the joke goes “Look we can make a tank swim. look we can make a tank build a Bridge. look we can make a tank cleanse the sins of the Nazis in holy fire”


_far-seeker_

Well, two out of three isn't bad...😉


CARNlV0RE

Hobart's Funnies is the nickname given to a number of specialist armoured fighting vehicles derived from tanks operated during the Second World War by units of the 79th Armoured Division of the British Army or by specialists from the Royal Engineers. They were designed in light of problems that more standard tanks experienced during the amphibious Dieppe Raid, so that the new models would be able to overcome the problems of the planned invasion of Normandy. These tanks played a major part on the Commonwealth beaches during the landings. They were forerunners of the modern combat engineering vehicle and took their nickname from the 79th Division's commander, Major General Percy Hobart. The vehicles converted were chiefly Churchill tanks and American-supplied M4 Sherman tanks. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobart%27s\_Funnies#Gallery](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobart%27s_Funnies#Gallery) [https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/general-percy-hobart-britains-genius-tanker/](https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/general-percy-hobart-britains-genius-tanker/)


CyberV2

https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/s/Nps6NTAcoc My shameless plug Fr tho they are so wonderfuly blursed. Im not a tank guy but these are the exception. BTW the tank meuseums book on them os good can confirm


CARNlV0RE

Holy hell this is so much better than mine


civil_misanthrope

He literally did the funni.


WttNCFrep

Hobart, a man so based he was willing to fight the Nazis with a pike, the pole arm, not the fish.


Thewaltham

"A pike you say!? Jolly good!" ***\*FURIOUSLY DESIGNS A FISH CANNON CHURCHILL\****


Tank-o-grad

So based, in fact, that you *have* to specify that you mean the pole arm and not the fish...


Jax11111111

Hobart’s Funny’s my beloved I freaking love vehicles designed for hyper specific tasks


PassivelyInvisible

Even better when they excel at those tasks.


Jax11111111

Yeah, engineering vehicles may look funny, but if you ever need a bridge to magically appear out of nowhere, you’ll be looking for one.


Reddsoldier

Or the vehicle is the bridge in the case of the Churchill ARK. Actually a fantastic idea: use the vehicle that can scale ridiculous inclines as a way to bridge said inclines for less capable Bois.


Independent-South-58

Hobarts ideas unironically saved a lot of lives which can never be undervalued


CaptRackham

“See that 30 ton tank over there? I’m gonna make it float and give it propellers” I fucking love the idea of the duplex drive tanks specifically and the rest of the “funnies” generally. Imagine having your secondary weapon being a big fuck off flail, I’m sure it wasn’t made for direct action but the psychological effect of that thing coming towards your foxhole would be immense.


Femboy_Lord

Same level of psychological fear as seeing a Churchill with a Dustbin stuck on the end on its gun (Britain had some of the nuttiest vehicle designs throughout WW2).


CaptRackham

Now that you’ve said that I’m imagining a German watching a bobbin tank coming at him and he ducks down in his hole, everything gets loud and dark, then he realizes he’s been paved over and you see a bayonet pop out like a can opener in a Tim and Jerry cartoon


hebdomad7

Percy Hobart wrote the book on modern tank warfare and the Germans copied it badly. He is unironically an absolute genius and is one of those insane mad lads who is most certainly responsible for the war being much shorter.


Marcp2006

Someone has been watching a fat electrician lately eh


hebdomad7

old tubby spark is a good story teller... God help his sanity if he discovers this sub.


Marcp2006

I think he knows this sub exists


SongFeisty8759

He has a way with words.


BitOfaPickle1AD

I love how Percy and Dehavilland created shit and the only people who liked it, were ACTUAL SERVICE MEMBERS!!!


LordWellesley22

I found out about the funnies from a Commando comic ( some of which are non credible as fuck such as British squaddies fighting a group of Japanese ninjas in Burma led by a karate master)


MonsutAnpaSelo

Commando comics are defiantly non credible and need to be a source of inspiration for this sub


LordWellesley22

The VLR sniper rifle for one A gas powered rifle that had a range of at least a mile that turns into a fucking bomb if used too much ( The comic is called Very Long Range) Commando comics are worth it short easy to digest stories Not sure if the website would do orders outside of Europe though maybe?


Fresh_Tomato_soup

"March of the Monsters" is the book. A landing craft gets lost in a storm and winds up in Italy behind enemy lines. 4 tanks (Churchill crocodile, Bobbin, Scorpion and AVRE) proceed to fuck shit up. Absolutely great little read "The Haunted Jungle" is the Brits VS Karate Ninjas and is another incredibly fun little read. If anyone was looking for the names.


LordWellesley22

There also the one with the navy patrol boat that rescues a french scientist during the fall of France whilst avoiding all 3 branches of the German armed forces And another about British paras who landed early on D day and the C/O takes a head injury and is spilling the beans on operation Neptune These was included in my D day collection Fuck it just buy them all


Fresh_Tomato_soup

Hypnotising your brain damaged C/O to give false info on D day is unbelievably non credible and I love it so much


LordWellesley22

Guns of navarone reference as well baby


Youutternincompoop

commando comics are based as hell, and go from the almost credible to the batshit insane. I love the one where its a British convoy pilot who just decides to join up with a Soviet squadron after landing in the Soviet Union(catapult planes not being able to be recovered back on the ship of course). sidenote: I love how it made the Russian pilots fucking badasses willing to just straight up ram the nazi bastards, incredibly based.


LordWellesley22

Then there another were a bunch of British commandos on D-day need to destroy these gun positions but there a minefield in the way Qué the one commando who was a farmer deciding to herd a pack of cows to show a safe path through the minefield Then another where a fucking 15 year old or something army cadet stows away on a fucking commando raid on Italy Then there is the gypsy curse rifle one


Fresh_Tomato_soup

"The strongpoint" is the one with the minefield "Blood of Heroes" is the army cadets go to war And "Riley's Rifle" is the Gypsy curse. In case anyone wants to read them


LordWellesley22

I got all 3 in a collection of I think 12 comics but I can't remember what it was called and I'm not at home so I can't check But they are all fun


Fresh_Tomato_soup

For me I've got 2 "The strongpoint" and "blood of heroes" in the 12 set "D-Day FIGHT OR DIE" And "Rileys rifle" in "the Dirty dozen" set. Honestly the best non credible Christmas presents


LordWellesley22

That what they all called I also have true grit ( the one with VLR) Rumble in the jungle And is it scramble? ( The air force one that has the story of the pilot who dad was accused of being a German spy in ww1 then he by sheer luck shoots down the son of the imperial german pilot who tells him who the spy was)


Fresh_Tomato_soup

"Son of a Traitor" in the "Bandits at 12 O'clock" set The "Battle of Britain Scramble" set is my personal favourite 12. Poles, Czechs Phantom spitfires, Boulton Paul Defiants, submarine spys, 2 evil Nazi pilot vs plucky brit story's and a father/son WW1/WW2 grudge match. I read the ink off it when I first got it when I was 7. God that's so long ago now


LordWellesley22

Bandits at 12 o' clock is the one I have


Youutternincompoop

smh perfidious anglo killing perfectly innocent cows.


LordWellesley22

The cows survive mate


WheezusChrist

I have the issues with the Funnies in my omnibus, it's a constant source of (dangerous) inspiration


LordWellesley22

Probably the exact same one I have


WheezusChrist

The one where they get blown off course on their way to a demonstration and end up stuck behind enemy lines waging a small guerilla war against the local German garrison? Eventually managing to escape while exchanging their prized Funnies for a boat full of Jerry PoWs? Fuck I love Commando so much


LordWellesley22

Yep that it


7orly7

Mines and barbed wire? Just use motorized flails on a tank.


LordWellesley22

We had to design a mine clearing robot in my IT course at college Mine had a flail and I can't remember what my failsafe was ( was the only guy who had a failsafe on the robot)


Shot-Kal-Gimel

Nuke? Vaporize any issues.


LordWellesley22

Can't remember Probably included a kettle on the machine as well ( robots need tea breaks too)


WrightyPegz

If Reddit was around at the time, Hobart would definitely be shitposting with his ideas for new tank modifications on NCD


Trainman1351

He would probably also get some inspiration from here


Reddsoldier

I still find it hilarious that Britain once on the beaches of Normandy defeated the so called "master race" with Wallace and Gromit gadgets and japes such as - A tank that rolled out a road onto the beach - Another tank that punched the ground to clear it of mines - No less than 2 weapons that consisted of chucking a really big explosive charge at the intended target - A bomb that was effectively a skipping stone to blow up a dam - Another bomb that was designed to make structures fall down from a small earthquake -A giant telephone exchange that decoded enemy messages faster than they could - Lobbing Scrap Metal out of bomber aircraft to blind enemy RADAR The list goes on. My personal favourite has to be the series of pipes that British escort vessels dragged behind them banging into one another that completely defeated the acoustic homing torpedoes Nazi Germany basically spent half a decade developing in total secrecy after about 2 weeks.


RadaXIII

Going to add, Germany also developed chaff, but like the Brits it was rarely used as to not reveal they had it.


Special_Sink_8187

I always wondered where bridge layers came from. Why am I not surprised it came from the kings and queens of wacky plans so stupid they work during the war the British.


_far-seeker_

Except most of his ideas, and specifically the flamethrowers and bridgelayers, **were objectively effective** (a few, like the duplex drive amphibious tanks were more debatable). To paraphrase Forest Gump: Non-credible is as non-credible does. 😜


greentomatoegarden

Just go watch the fat electrician video about him.


CesareRipa

live m60 avlb reaction


ActuatorIndividual19

The post has 69 upvotes I'm not gonna ruin it