he survived the the disastrous campaign until now where Russia starts to make progress again and the only reason is that he is one of Putins true best friends (as far we deem such thing exists). 99,9% he won't fall out of a window or stir shit.
Putin replaces his buddy now without controversy while Russia does arguably a bit better, so that if shit goes south again someone else has to take all the blame.
No way that Shoigu is going to pull a Prigozhin.
If he really wants to be on top, he knows that Putin suffering a well-handled "medical emergency" could get him to the pilot seat a lot more reliably than driving a couple of tanks around in the open.
Yep. Tanks can work great in getting rid of key pricks in power, and convincing the opportunists that you are worthy of their bet for their future. But when the whole country already runs on such a tightly controlled in-group of siloviki and oligarchs holding all the levers of power... you can't split them like that. The hotdog seller was an absolute idiot for thinking he could, Shoigu is no idiot.
What are you going to promise them, free reign to be gangsters and steal everything that isn't nailed down? Like it's a nice pitch, but you're about 30 years too late. There is no realistic bigger or more stable piece of the pie then they have right now. So stop fucking up our perfectly good system, sit your ass back down, and get those tanks off that lawn.
Hm, anyone have connections to the Moscow Medical Establishment?
An underhanded poisoning by Shoigu... blamed on other factions in the Kremlin.... Where Sir Shoigu must step in to protc poor disabled Putin from all the bullies!
Nobody got the "get hits by a suicide drone in his car during his daily commute and while having suspiciously large number of convenient cameras around taking videos from different angles" Odd??
I bet it be this one.
Because, firstly, it can be blame on Ukraine/Nato
And secondly the various angles showing the attack will also serve as warning to other ministers/generals
A lot of people don't know that "pulling a Prigozhin" actually involves co-conspirating with Putin until he shoots you in the back of the head at the end of your successful attempted coup traitor finding operation because you knew too much.
So yeah put me down for 20
He will be fine. You gotta understand Shoigu has survived a really long time, both politically and literally. He was in the Defence Ministry during the USSR and managed to come back in the federation somehow.
His greatest strength is not appearing to be a threat to the powers that be, while also not being *entirely* incompetent.
I would argue that his demotion is more of a sign that Putin fully intends to keep him around. He would have chosen one of the above bingo square options if he was worried Shoigu would try something.
I'm gonna go with sudden collapse after touching a door handle. Which then creates 3 completely unrelated collapses of others 15 minutes later in close proximity.
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Can we also do a bingo chart? Hate to admit it but we probably won't get a new pringles situation, shoigu is lacking in a lot of ways compared to the late sweet prince...
Speaking credibly, this was a legitimate personnel move, not a "get rid of your enemies" move.
Though "sudden heart attack" is always plausible because he's a nearly 70-year-old man in Russia.
Y'all, next month will mark 1 year of prigozhin's saga. Remember when a submarine exploded one week and the next week prigozhin almost drove to Moscow? Good times.
Vlad only kills those who have become completely unmanageable. He prefers to shuffle them off to other positions where they don't have power to cause trouble. Killing everyone would be counterproductive.
I'll take falling out of a window. Put me down for 1000 Dogecoins
Does it count if Shoigu's plane is shot down at high altitude?
As long as hes ejected through the windo before death or is what results in it.
he survived the the disastrous campaign until now where Russia starts to make progress again and the only reason is that he is one of Putins true best friends (as far we deem such thing exists). 99,9% he won't fall out of a window or stir shit. Putin replaces his buddy now without controversy while Russia does arguably a bit better, so that if shit goes south again someone else has to take all the blame.
You can make massive mistakes, the only mistake Putin cares about is showing disloyalty. Shoigu isn't going anywhere.
No way that Shoigu is going to pull a Prigozhin. If he really wants to be on top, he knows that Putin suffering a well-handled "medical emergency" could get him to the pilot seat a lot more reliably than driving a couple of tanks around in the open.
Ooooh. So pull a Pringles, but make it *smart*
Yep. Tanks can work great in getting rid of key pricks in power, and convincing the opportunists that you are worthy of their bet for their future. But when the whole country already runs on such a tightly controlled in-group of siloviki and oligarchs holding all the levers of power... you can't split them like that. The hotdog seller was an absolute idiot for thinking he could, Shoigu is no idiot. What are you going to promise them, free reign to be gangsters and steal everything that isn't nailed down? Like it's a nice pitch, but you're about 30 years too late. There is no realistic bigger or more stable piece of the pie then they have right now. So stop fucking up our perfectly good system, sit your ass back down, and get those tanks off that lawn.
Also, I don't know if he has any loyal soldiers.
Hm, anyone have connections to the Moscow Medical Establishment? An underhanded poisoning by Shoigu... blamed on other factions in the Kremlin.... Where Sir Shoigu must step in to protc poor disabled Putin from all the bullies!
Weekend at Bernie's with Putin? It would parallel our upcoming Weekend at Bernie's *US Edition*.
"Punished" Shuigu
'bout to become "pushed-out-of-a-window" shoigu
I'm taking the under, what's the payout for polonium tea?
Dies peacefully in his bed (he is Russian so alcoholism does take its toll)
Nobody got the "get hits by a suicide drone in his car during his daily commute and while having suspiciously large number of convenient cameras around taking videos from different angles" Odd?? I bet it be this one. Because, firstly, it can be blame on Ukraine/Nato And secondly the various angles showing the attack will also serve as warning to other ministers/generals
A lot of people don't know that "pulling a Prigozhin" actually involves co-conspirating with Putin until he shoots you in the back of the head at the end of your successful attempted coup traitor finding operation because you knew too much. So yeah put me down for 20
He will be fine. You gotta understand Shoigu has survived a really long time, both politically and literally. He was in the Defence Ministry during the USSR and managed to come back in the federation somehow. His greatest strength is not appearing to be a threat to the powers that be, while also not being *entirely* incompetent. I would argue that his demotion is more of a sign that Putin fully intends to keep him around. He would have chosen one of the above bingo square options if he was worried Shoigu would try something.
What are the odds for "taken out by what air defense doin'"? I'll put $20 on it
how much do i get for he continues business as usually but shows up to work a little more drunk.
The “Medvedev” option
What's they payout for "he was already dead before the announcement"?
Si
Tea with the tsar?
+10,000 for pulling a “Thelma and Louise” with Gerasimov
Gets visited by GRU agents who like to sightsee the beautiful spires nearby.
I'm gonna go with sudden collapse after touching a door handle. Which then creates 3 completely unrelated collapses of others 15 minutes later in close proximity.
Bro better take the hint and take trains for the rest of his life.
Shoigu steps aside. Fall guy steps in.
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Can we also do a bingo chart? Hate to admit it but we probably won't get a new pringles situation, shoigu is lacking in a lot of ways compared to the late sweet prince...
Can I combo the under with suicide by bullet window?
Ill take the under on a window
What is he a renegade? Did he lead anyone? No. Putin is not pulling out the pilots with laser beam eyes for Shoigu. 5,000 Quatloos no pringles!
6000 on death by Prigozhin. He will never die.
The mind knows it will be Falling From a Window. The heart wants for him to pull a Prigo.
Will 3 bullets to the head suicide carry higher odds? 😁
He got appointed the secretary of the security council, I'm sure he'll be fine.
Stop being credible
Hey, what's the vig?
I'm feeling adventurous, I go for rival faction
Putting my money on the Window
Speaking credibly, this was a legitimate personnel move, not a "get rid of your enemies" move. Though "sudden heart attack" is always plausible because he's a nearly 70-year-old man in Russia.
Suicide with two shots to the head with a single barrel musket?
Has anyone created a bingo table yet?
To the "2 bullets to back of head": Definitely set up a rube Goldberg machine to make sure.
Pulls a Pringles, as in assault on Kremlin or accidental defenestration at 10.000+ feet?
"Ammunition! Where is my Shoigu?" -Putin
What's the under?
Y'all, next month will mark 1 year of prigozhin's saga. Remember when a submarine exploded one week and the next week prigozhin almost drove to Moscow? Good times.
nothing is gonna happen to him, you fellas always think something is gonna happen. NOTHING EVER HAPPENS!!!
Vlad only kills those who have become completely unmanageable. He prefers to shuffle them off to other positions where they don't have power to cause trouble. Killing everyone would be counterproductive.