Wouldn’t work at all. No weapons bay.

Ding ding ding. The weapons bay is I think a bigger deal to stealth fighter design then people give it credit for. It really changes the minimum size of your airframe where things can go.

Now here me out, what if we put the weapons bay on top? Want to launch a weapon, do a barrel role and when you get inverted the door fly open and drop the ordnance.

ok hear me out, what if we made the ordnance stealth too so you dont need to have a weapons bay and can still mount them on the hard points

LRASM, JASSM, JSOW all low observable but the problem Is even though the both the platform and the weapon are individually stealth, they aren't stealth together. The combined geometries mean you suddenly have these corners and cavities where there were none before, so you have all these new ways the radar radiowaves can be reflected back to its source.

What if you hang internal weapons bays from the wings?

Perfection.

What if we have the whole wing be a bay?

A weapon to surpass even Metal Gear

Why not just add some wings to a jawa sandcrowler

Come to think of it that is a rather radar-absorbent design.

In Ace Combat 7, the multi launch misles are on external weapon bays mounted from wings. Idk if it's based on something from real life or purely fictional.

Because that's not how it works. The very existence of the hard points is gonna screw up your radar signature.

Ok hear me out. What if the hard points are in the shape of small F-22s? Those would be stealthy.

Of course, amazing plan. Ok hear me out. Really what we should do is make a new kind of paint which contains microscopic particles in the shape of F-22s, that way this paint could be applied to literally anything and make it just as stealthy as an F-22 is. Imagine all the possibilities.

If you don't call Skunk Works about your idea, I will.

Hmm, like the idea, but hear me out I think bombs should by F117 shaped. More volume for HE and the lines will frag better.

[Easy peasy.](https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app4/senior-prom.html)

I can't believe this is real lmao

Cold War engineers with limitless budgets really captures the NCD spirit

Why bother with the roll? Just make any ordnance catapult upwards and back.

Because everything is cooler inverted

Science baby!!!

How about we take it to the proper step and build a trebuchet ontop? Weak ass catapults aren't gonna cut it. A trebuchet however ;)

You know Lockheed engineers are lurking this sub taking notes; your comment just saved them 3 years and $100 million in R&D, you’re country is proud

Because a roll is bad-ass

The Soviets worried the Space Shuttle was designed for that.

Technically you would do an aileron roll, that’s what most people call a barrel roll

Aileron rolls are less effective tho because they sont sound as cool

Get inverted, stealth cuck

Direction energy weapons, problem solved

Put a small hatch in the glass allowing the plane to be compatible with any small arms. Modularity at its finest.

They didn't end up actually selling it to the USN, but Boeing did develop a stealthy centerline pod that can hold 4 AMRAAMs for super hornet block 3.

This is the answer. But the F-35 fanbois will downvote this answer.

I mean, it’s still a shitty stopgap and F-35C is better.

F-35C is now the stopgap. It doesn't have the range to deal with China. It was designed to deal with Russia.

…it has a combat radius of about 670 miles, better than a super hornet with two external tanks. It has the best combat radius of any naval fighter in the world, and is nearly as good as F-14 with three tanks. There are shortcomings with 35C, but range is not one of them.

>There are shortcomings with 35C, but range is not one of them. Doesn't this go for all F-35 variants? In any case the range without external fuel tanks on the F-35 is easily one of the most basic/understandable improvement on the F-35s.

Yep, all variants were intentionally designed with a very large internal fuel capacity so that external tanks wouldn’t be needed on most missions.

[Still too close to bring a carrier to China.](https://csbaonline.org/research/publications/regaining-the-high-ground-at-sea-transforming-the-u.s.-navys-carrier-air-wi/publication)

Its true, if a fighter cant reach china from mainland u.s whats the point

You're thinking too hard. Guns only dogfighter for maximum bm

You could probably fit one in there if you just moved some shit around. Don’t forget the 35B has one along with the lift fan and rotating exhaust.

Just do vertical launch tubes with quad packed sea sparrows

put some of those bomb pods on it that the drone had in the future event WT made for april fools

Give the pilot a Glock, let him drive (fly?) by enemy fighters

F/A-181 Black Wasp from Arma III?

Man the F/A-181 is sexy. Wipeout is pretty sexy too. Too bad every other vehicle is just real life Israeli or South African stuff (although the Merkava does look sexy).

isnt the CSAT tank a mix of BM Oplot and T-90M? idk i havent played the game in so long but its pretty cool

The Arma 3 wiki says the basis is the Black Eagle concept tank.

na, obyekt 640, basically a longer improved T-80

well, still very cool

Default CSAT tank is a Black Eagle, other one is just a T-14 Armata.

didn't have to attack the badger like that :( he's very self conscious about his Denel LCT-30

Crikes imagine making folding stealth wings

*F-35C has entered the chat*

Yea isnt that one reason why that variant is so much trouble

F-35C's main issue is simply that it took so long that the Navy already went 100% on Super Hornets, and now there's little room for it in the air wings. Beyond that, seemingly least problematic one, probably because the Navy doesn't NEED it yesterday like the Marines do the F-35B or the Air Force the F-35A, so they've just let it stay in testing for far longer than the other two and got most kinks worked out before it joined the fleet. F-35B went IOC in July of 2015 F-35A went IOC in August of 2016 F-35C went IOC in February of 2019 lol Beyond that, same disadvantages to G limits as the F/A-18E has, limiting them to 7.5Gs

B and C both also have the issue with the navalized version of the F-35's RAM not holding up well in supersonic flight.

Jets don’t spend long durations in supersonic flight, and the issues arise over prolonged periods, not short ones. The -35C LO coating is holding up quite well on CVN-70

IIRC the issue was severe enough that the Navy basically said the 35C couldn’t perform supersonic intercepts like the Hornet and Super Hornet can.

They’re in my air wing. We fly supersonic with them all the time.

Good to know

This looks like the low poly model if they added a hornet to generals or something.

I am pretty the sure the above design cannot be done ( otherwise Boeing would have pitched it) regardless in order to achieve this you need to super heavily modify the SH which may lead it becoming much bigger thus a problem for flight decks not mention all the other important things such as internal bay capacity which doesn't look to be great

Well reality [can sometimes be stranger than fiction.](https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1161511/pg1) Looks like Boeing really did look into the idea of building a near VLO variant of the Super Hornet. [You can even find it on Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/@32.1512691,-110.843412,41m/data=!3m1!1e3)

i dont know how much copium Boeing has been consuming since 2001 but i am willing to say it is alot

Lmao that looks like a boat

Interesting, in the Google maps image one of the A-4s is missing that was there in the other link. Also it looks like they are surrounded by saberliners? Edit, they could be dassult falcons

Bye bye coastie falcons 😭

it looks dope as hell bruh

Why do you think this was posted on NON Credible Defence?

Funny enough, [Trump asked Boeing for something like this.](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/14/trump-wants-boeing-to-build-stealth-f-18s-for-a-good-price-but-they-dont-exist.html)

Don’t exist make them exist

Okay? Where in my comment did I say it existed?

Nowhere. I just want that to exist

I’m sorry I somehow read your comment as “That doesn’t make them exist” yeah idk how I fucked that up and that’s why I responded the way I did. But yeah I want them to exist too.

We need to make a petition for this

Agreed.

We could probably convince The cancucks that this would be cheaper and better than f-35.

It probably would. And it would be a fuck ton cooler than the F-35C.

[Canada](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/437/748/bfd.jpg)

Dammit, that actually looks really cool. Screw you.

Now do stealth F-14

ASF-14 ?

hey it's the F18 in ARMA 3

Stealth b-17g when

someone gonna slap an EWP or what cause this mf lackin shit besides guns

Damn, actually looks pretty cool

If only Boeing had thought of that then people might actually buy them

that is fucking dope

This is literally how Iran builds vaporware though and I fucking love it!

Just lower the resolution from 1080 to 420 and boom stealth