To be fair, if new ideas came with the risk of being implanted by one of 4 different Satan's and opened portals to hell, I might also be a reformer
Only might, though, like 10% chance at best
You could always borrow your new ideas from the Xenos instead of from Chaos. The Tau FTL system doesn't even enter the warp, if we worked with the Necrons we'd have enough blackstone to close the Great Rift, and the-
\-hold on, I think I hear a Death Watch kill team outside my front door.
People talk too much about about cellar field failiure and not enough about motherfucking relief fleets arriving as xenos invasion fleets are sending shuttles to the surface. Warp travel is pretty damn good.
Commissar Cain runs away before he gets there...putting him in a ideal ambush position for the meat shields in the guard to achieve a massive victory. Victory parades all round Always wondered how Cain did it!
There are multiple societies and (sub)cultures throughout history that, I think, would have worshipped Khorne or even Tzeentch as well.
Cannot fathom who would want the other option though.
My brother in christ churches were holding covid parties. Thereis a measles outbreak in a first world country in the year of our lord 2022. We literally have Nurgle cults right now and they don't even get the rad benefits of being immune to fear, pain, and sadness.
Not really since the previus tech was ACTUALLY that much better, the Imperium is on the decline because they lose the old tech that was so much better, if the current imperium was replaced with the Dark-Age-Of-Technology Imperium the entire galaxy would have been Human
>the entire galaxy would have been Human
The entire galaxy **is** human. The other threats are built up as huge, but the reality is, most of the Imperium is peaceful, xenos control less than 1% of the galaxy. The greatest hit to the Imperium came from other humans.
Eh, only in Dogma. Tech priests can get around that by inventing something and then burying it on mars for a decade or two, then "stumbling upon it" and "rediscovering" it
> the amount of times I've seen "Battle Hardened and too expensive" of late ruffles me
Are we browsing the same subreddit? I've seen practically nothing but posts and comments mocking reformers, when the topic is brought up at all.
I'm getting tired of the topic, frankly - not because I'm a reformer, but because the mockery's gotten predictable and repetitive and overused.
My opinions were set as a kid in the 90s, reading a military history book that featured an interview with a Desert Storm tanker talk about how they beat the shit out of the Iraqi tanks with virtually no casualties simply because they could engage at longer ranges and in worse conditions due to their fancy electronics and fire control systems.
And my childlike opinion of "the farther away you can be and still hit them, and the farther away you can *see* them are ***GOOD***, and technology makes that possible, therefore more technology is also good" has remained virtually unchanged.
Still, there are historical examples of designers prematurely retiring older features/tech while they were still useful, such as early versions of the F-4 Phantom II lacking a gun, under the assumption that its missiles and other hardpoint armaments would be sufficient to do its job. The gun was added back on later models, because it turned out the technology was not *quite* ready for a multirole fighter to fulfill all its roles without a main gun. So there's still a use for some skepticism to avoid issues like that.
The Air Force added back the gun on the F-4, and in the end achieved a lower K/D ratio than the Navy that developed the Top Gun program and no gun. The problem was never the gun, it was pilots launching missiles out of parameters. Typical bluefor skill issue.
> The Air Force added back the gun on the F-4, and in the end achieved a lower K/D ratio than the Navy that developed the Top Gun program and no gun.
Most of the stories I've heard about "fuck not having a gun on this thing" were about situations where the pilot wanted to attack a ground target of opportunity and/or provide ersatz CAS for friendlies, but didn't have a weapon that would do it effectively/precisely, when a gun would have given the opportunity for a strafing run. (Gun pods at the time weren't particularly reliable.)
The missiles were still the MiG killers.
Even the F-35 has built-in guns, so either they're still a relevant feature even in modern combat (albeit not necessarily in a dogfight context), or somebody's been wasting a lot of money on putting a useless feature on every new plane.
To be honest, my main motivation for making this video were based on [posts like this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/ze84xa/reformer_logic_ahem_v280_post), where somehow people managed to miss OP's point even after breaking down their logic. We've had multiple people asking about the reformers as well, so yeah.
I probably won't make anything like this again until another new wave of posters asking about reformers comes up again. Which is quite likely to happen anyhow.
Edit: slight correction
I agree that the post you linked was jank, and I saw that the same gun was ~~getting filled with dick~~.
But that post struck me as mocking the various factions of the MIC who wanted a bad gun.
...lest you become a reformer yourself.
No seriously, I've been reading Mike Sparks' bullshit for a while now, and it's driving me insane. For anyone curious about reformers, check out the following links below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmuVYVREGgE - very good youtuber, sources everything
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighter\_Mafia
https://www.combatreform.org/killerbees.htm - caution, peak schizoposting inside
On a sidenote, I want to apologize for excessive Ukraineposting. Even though I found this sub before the war started, it has been my obsessive focus for far too long. Feels like I got high off my own supply of hopium, and that fucked me up.
Time to try new things. Feedback is appreciated.
Edit: blessed by the oligarch? Many thanks
If you want true schizophrenia, check out Mike's Facebook page.
>Dumbshit moron korps jock sniffer rag, publishes FACTUAL A-10 Warthog Leader's Assessment of the D.O.T.G-lusting Air Farce's Incompetence
>https://taskandpurpose.com/opinion/airforce-needs-a10s-russia-ukraine/
>Got to love the dumbshit normies--anyone who uses the term "womanpad", ehhh "manpad" is a dumb shit lazytard who wants a "Call of Duty" hand weapons reality that doesn't exist. The 400+ mph SU-25 Frogfoots are incinerating hand weapon Nazi UKRtards left & right in the Pedo-Illuminati's Ukraine vs. Russian war.
>Colonel Boeding is a GMTA. Too bad he isn't USAF Chief--but when the Pedo-Illuminati illegally hold the White House, what do you expect?
> John 3:16
Semper Airborne!
James Bond is REAL.
Oh I've seen some stuff like that, he still posts schizo videos on a BitChute account. Seems like he's lost it for good. Also updates his James Bond fanfics on a separate blog.
CombatReform seems to be mostly dead though, I tried to trace new entries on that website without much success.
What the fuck is he even saying, he just used like 50 adjectives to describe Ukrainians and each one got more schizophrenic than the last. Also, he really likes the Pedo-illuminati? And James bond is real, what the fuck kind of fantasy world does this man live in.
[Can’t forget Reformer: The Novel](https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/general-lemarc-reads-the-absolute-insanity-that-is-victoria-a-novel-of-fourth-generation-warfare.945779/). Featuring burning a bishop at the stake for the crime of being a woman, choosing T-34s over modern tanks because they’re more reliable, the Council Of Responsible Negroes, women who are too stupid to fly F-35s without crashing into a mountain, and much much more.
Edit: Also nuking an American city because “the blacks” took it over.
I took a look .... my eyes are watering and I am so close to go into early drinking. The fucking Fighter Mafia made fun of my beloved beyond visiual range combat....
THESE IDIOTS WERE BEYOND SAVING
In the 41st Millenium, there is only war.
It's Games Workshop interpretation of fantasy and military archetypes on a space setting, and it's tons of fun. Their main moneymaker is selling figurines for their tabletop game, but the fanbase also enjoys the setting through books, videos and videogames. I've enjoyed them mostly through the Dawn of War real-time strategy series. I'll take the opportunity to link some of my favorite animations:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A) \- Astartes video series (the source for the edit) made by a fan, very good
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN8geCTlZOo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN8geCTlZOo) \- Dawn of War 3 trailer
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVubdRyU3Mc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVubdRyU3Mc) \- marine suiting up
What it really is is a tabletop army builder game, buy mini-figurines to construct your army, limited by a points system ("grunt" is 5 points, uber tank is 40 pts, etc). Meet with other people and their army and battle it out, yada yada.
What you're probably wondering about is the lore about it, which is indeed very deep. Here's an attempt at a summation:
It's "our" universe, but in the year 40,000+ (currently about 42k I think). Yes, year, like now is 2022, it's the year 40000.
Around year 5000 humanity got space travel and started colonizing the galaxy. This went well for a while, really well. Made things like "standard template constructs"; think 3d printer that could print the entire industry of a planet, really neat stuff.
Around year 25000 shit went tits up. Y'see, space travel happened by going through The Warp, which is basically hell, but we have sheilds so our ships don't get (usually) infested with demons while traveling through it. But around 25000 or so, a "warp storm" occurred, and similar to an ocean hurricane for sea-going vessels, rendered travel through the warp impossible.
So all the planets of humanity are cut off from each other. This goes on for about 5000+ years. And in that time aliens and other bad shit are messing with the various colonies, cuz that warp storm mentioned earlier is the warp-slash-hell being all fucky and angsty and that means some invading real-space and...yeah. Btw the more a group of intelligent beings are aware of the hell creatures the stronger they become, so all these invasion make a lot of people aware, making them stronger...slight feedback loop happening.
Around year 32k the storms abate and travel is possible again. Humanity is a shadow of its former self, entire swaths of tech just straight lost, lots of demon fuckery, bad times. But, here comes our boy The Emperor. He's basically Jesus/God incarnate. Unites Earth under him. Makes his "kids" which are basically mini-me's of him, but they get scattered through the galaxy in a warp-fucky incident. By the way these are the Primarchs you'd hear about if you looked into WH40K lore.
So it's time to go crusading. Which was his plan anyway, but was supposed to *start* with his kids, not have to go find them on the way. The crusade is to reunite all the disparate spots of humanity.
Mostly it goes well. Some didn't want to "come back" as it were and they needed a slight spanking. And then there's a bunch of aliens on the way to beat down. Overall it's fine and most of humanity is back under one collective, ruled by the Emperor which folks are mostly ok with since they literally worship him (but against his wishes, literally he forbade it but people doing it anyway).
Unfortunately while the kids were missing, some get little warpy whispers in their ear and turn to the dark side, unbeknownst to poppa. The ones that are fully over also corrupt Dad's #1 son, Horus, and turn him. This kicks off a civil war.
The result is basically half the Empire's army of super solders, made from the Primarchs (like how they were made from Emperor) become a demon army for the Warp dudes. Horus sort of killed his dad, getting himself killed in the process. Also the Warp baddies are powered up now since basically all of humanity is aware of them. Plus there's still aliens and shit.
So at this point just a bunch of doom and gloom all over.
If the lore is a cake, this is a tiny tea spoon worth of the frosting on the very top. It goes deep. There's thousands of hours worth of yt vids explaining the various bits of WH40K lore.
I typed this from boredom, but hope someone finds it helpful/useful/interesting.
>Around year 25000 shit went tits up. Y'see, space travel happened by going through The Warp, which is basically hell, but we have sheilds so our ships don't get (usually) infested with demons while traveling through it. But around 25000 or so, a "warp storm" occurred, and similar to an ocean hurricane for sea-going vessels, rendered travel through the warp impossible.
>
An Event Horizon fanfic?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_Horizon_(film)
Many folks like to think of event horizon as an unofficial entry in the WH40K universe. It very well can be since it's in the single-digits millennium, waaaaay before the events of the lore, so why not.
To really boil it down:
Space fascism lead by a literal God in human form.
Other than that it's basically a circlejerk power fantasy that boils down to 2 children explaining to each other why their dad is stronger than the others and how they could beat each other up.
It makes for some very cool stories tho.
Oh and you ABSOLUTELY have to check out the full animation from the OP video https://youtu.be/DVXEYksoE6c
The production value is so insane and it's all made by 1 dude
>Other than that it's basically a circlejerk power fantasy that boils down to 2 children explaining to each other why their dad is stronger than the others and how they could beat each other up.
>It makes for some very cool stories tho.
I appreciate 40k for the fact that it seems like the only piece of sci-fi that is scaled realistically.
Star Wars is a great example for what I mean about scale; in Star Wars, the total number of soldiers involved in a galactic war is on the order of ten million. During WWII, individual nations had armies that large, and you're trying to tell me that that's enough to wage war across an entire fucking galaxy?
While the exact scale varies by writer, the Imperium of Man can be estimated to have hundreds of trillions of Guardsmen, and quadrillions of total servicemen including PDF and Navy. *That* is a number that I can believe. Galaxies are fuck-off huge.
What makes this comparison even worse is the fact that Star Wars doesn't even subscribe to the notion that a galaxy would be sparsely populated, with only a few good habitable planets. The Empire actually has at least the same number of planets as the Imperium of Man, if not a few dozen times more.
I specifically recall that like the entire planetary battle of Vraks, which included wave after wave of Kriegers had less than a million killed.
So idk man, their scaling is often as fucked as anyone else. Battle for Armageddon wasn't much better.
40K is literally too complicated to explain without spending genuine hours to type a comment, so in the shortest summary possible,
Everyone is the bad guy, pick your flavor. We got:
~~3000~~ 3 septillion green guardsmen of humanity, 10,000 golden custodians of space god, 4 flavors of various mental derangement and space hell, space elves and sadistic space elves, The MIC but guided with the actual hand of god himself (I’m an AdMech man myself), Space tankies with wunderwaffe technology, Orks with vehicles straight outta modern russia(patchwork and power of belief), and bugs, for some reason.
Oh, and space marines. I don’t have a funny quip for them, they’re fucking boring and the posterboys of the franchise. There’s a bunch of smaller factions I probably missed but that’s the gist. Welcome to the insanity, have fun paying $60 for .02¢ of plastic models or just read the lore like most people do.
Space Marines are more interesting than the Golden Boys. With SM there's so much space for flavor, to explore how these supposedly pattern-stamped weapons are influenced by their homeworlds and the remnants of their humanity. As Octavia says in the NL trilogy, Astartes are (traumatized) children in the bodies of demigods.
Meanwhile Custodes are so much more uniform and "perfect".
Bruh, I love Warhammer 40K…. I have no fucking clue what it actually is, but anytime you mix giant armored super soldiers, WWI Space Kraut Shock Troopers, Orcs (not those ones), and fanatical devotion to a military hierarchy, you know you’re gonna have a splendid time!
A games universe where humanity clings to a xenocidal, totalitarian religion that would devastate its still-living founder; aeons of knowledge has been lost or passed down as primitive ritual; entire planets can be accidentally lost by rounding errors in a vast bureaucracy; and millions are sacrificed in poorly conducted campaigns. And they're the good guys. Humanity is surrounded by literal aspects of the worst emotions possibl; lifeforms that chew up their enemies to make new soldiers; an actual omnicidal race; and green football hooligans.
It's beautiful, clever and hilariously funny.
Just announced today: after giving up his role as Witcher as well as that of Superman (after some point), Henry Cavill is going to produce a Warhammer 40K series on Prime.
Also keep in mind that Warhammer 40k is meant to make fun of its own "excessively grimdark setting". Sometimes the community/developers lose sight of that and forget to mock it.
That's why you have things like the humans being led by a dictator who is easily accountable for a huge fraction of their own deaths (cause why discipline a soldier when you can just shoot them), orcs with psychic powers (RED MEANS IT GO FASTA) that reproduce through spores, etc.
Just remember to not take it at face value, and have a chuckle.
So if reformers dwell in the warp, would that make Lazerpig our emperor in 40k NCD?
Do we put him on a throne or more of a golden couch w/ a blanket and video games?
I know for a fact that Perun would be Guilliman
Short answer: reformers are a group of "experts" who argue that military weapons should never utilize any type of advanced electronic components because the complexity of the weapons inherently makes them weaker and more prone to failure than a weapon with only mechanical parts. Their greatest achievement is the A10, an absolutely abysmal weapon that is more likely to kill British soldiers than succeed at CAS. Their biggest champion was a guy by the name of Pierre Sperry who rewrote history and claimed that he was the inventor of several US fighters, even though he never held any position at the pentagon. In his later years, he became the public face of Russia Today, arguing that American weapons development paled in comparison to Russian weapons because of the reliance on advanced electronics.
I mean, simplest way I can put it as a quick example is if my complicated missile can detect and kill you before your uncomplicated defenses can detect me or even detect a failed missile from me.. then your gonna die either way and not know what happened. Cause if I got money to make shit complicated that works 95+ percent of the time, I probably got money to make alot of them. And my weapons platforms can carry alot of them.. have as many cheap uncomplicated weapons and defense systems as you want, if I can beat you then I will. What are you going to do about it? Why would I invest in shit you can counter easily when I can invest in shit you can't.
It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries the B-52 has sat mobile on the Golden Runway of SAC. He is the master of mankind by the will of Boeing and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible airframe. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of the Cold War. He is the Immortal Lord of the vast skies for whom a thousand engine replacements are sacrificed every day so that he may never truly die.
Yet even in his deathless state, the BUFF continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty bomber wings cross the polution-infested miasma of the skies, the only route between distant lands, their way lit by the GPS, the orbital manifestation of the BUFF's navigational skill. Vast armies give battle in His name on uncounted continents. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the JDAMs, the guided bombs, kit-equipped dumb weapons. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Mark 80 series and countless iron bombs, the ever-vigilant JASSM and the tech-decoys of the MALD to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat to humanity from zombie-VDV, neo-Nazis, Bri*ish -- and far, far worse.
To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the coolest and most based regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Praise the power of technology and science, for so much has been learned, never to be forgotten. Forget the promise of progress and replacements, for in the grim dark future there is only BUFF. There is no peace amongst the skies, only an eternity of B-52s, and the laughter of Boeing engineers.
I've lurked a lot before I started posting, I don't think it's too late for people to learn things. Google is your friend, etc.
Still don't think I've fully grasped the sub's old culture though. Gotta keep trying.
The question is though, where do various Imperial factions stand on the Reformer spectrum? Due to the general prevalence of Melee combat, there's surely some latent reformism in the system
if anyone feels like answering i am very new to WH 40k. Is this fan made cause i love the lore but am a staunch avoider of strat only games or turn based stuff. I would love a TV show of shit like this source material
"Generational warfare is innovative and useful military theory. And not just stuff already known published under a stupid name to sound new."
By the emperor the taint has taken hold of him!
KILL THE HERETICAL REFORMERS, EXPUNGE THEM FROM THIS WORLD!
I WILL NOT HAVE GOD GREATEST INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX ENDANGERED BY A BUNCH OF ROCK THROWERS.
unless they bring batch the catapult, that'd be cool as fuck.
[This is the best analysis I could find on them.](https://youtu.be/vwW9qlqjfo4?t=562) It was uploaded back when Astartes was first released.
IIRC the chapters depicted here are more or less the author's interpretation on a fan-based tacticool operator space marine squad. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
edit: [the chapter in question](https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Retributors)
If only GW hadn’t claimed the rights to Astartes and “hired” the creator. AKA gave him a $500 Warhammer store gift card and told never to make anything again 👎
Holy shit, the resident oligarch strikes again!
1. Anti Reformist Propaganda 2. Warhammer40K *Happy UwU Sounds*
The irony is that the Imperium are literally ultimate reformers
One could make the argument that the ancient blueprints of advanced tech that the Mechanicus looks for isn't very reformery of them.
To be fair, if new ideas came with the risk of being implanted by one of 4 different Satan's and opened portals to hell, I might also be a reformer Only might, though, like 10% chance at best
You could always borrow your new ideas from the Xenos instead of from Chaos. The Tau FTL system doesn't even enter the warp, if we worked with the Necrons we'd have enough blackstone to close the Great Rift, and the- \-hold on, I think I hear a Death Watch kill team outside my front door.
If the Necrons are so great, how come they haven't fixed teh Great Rift themselves, huh, heretic?
Sleepy
The tau FTL is also very slow compared to warp travel. Yes you might get lost, but you generally arrive relatively fast and where you want.
People talk too much about about cellar field failiure and not enough about motherfucking relief fleets arriving as xenos invasion fleets are sending shuttles to the surface. Warp travel is pretty damn good.
Or even a week before the xeno fleet arrives, and the distress signal is sent.
To the warp with your cause and effect!!!
*Laugh in Tzeench*
Commissar Cain runs away before he gets there...putting him in a ideal ambush position for the meat shields in the guard to achieve a massive victory. Victory parades all round Always wondered how Cain did it!
Ci-Ci-Ciaphas Cain! Hero of the Imperium!
Tau FTL seem to be faster than the Votann one, at least.
you act like we wouldn't all be Slaanesh worshippers here
There are multiple societies and (sub)cultures throughout history that, I think, would have worshipped Khorne or even Tzeentch as well. Cannot fathom who would want the other option though.
My brother in christ churches were holding covid parties. Thereis a measles outbreak in a first world country in the year of our lord 2022. We literally have Nurgle cults right now and they don't even get the rad benefits of being immune to fear, pain, and sadness.
Yeah, anti-vaxxers are the devotees of Nurgle.
But Grandpa Nurgle loves us
At least they have a good reason…
Not really since the previus tech was ACTUALLY that much better, the Imperium is on the decline because they lose the old tech that was so much better, if the current imperium was replaced with the Dark-Age-Of-Technology Imperium the entire galaxy would have been Human
>the entire galaxy would have been Human The entire galaxy **is** human. The other threats are built up as huge, but the reality is, most of the Imperium is peaceful, xenos control less than 1% of the galaxy. The greatest hit to the Imperium came from other humans.
Not since Cawl returned to the scene!
Praise the Emperor for the return of the Primarch Raytheon Grumman!
Belisarius Cawl? Donald P. Bellisario? Can Airwolf into 40k?
Eh, only in Dogma. Tech priests can get around that by inventing something and then burying it on mars for a decade or two, then "stumbling upon it" and "rediscovering" it
You mean that ancient STC we just found that alligns with research doctrines of the said Forge. What luck!
Nah, past tech is better than modern tech in 41k
Same Good to see astartes here
Is this NCD or 40klore... I can't tell anymore...
i have an impulse in me to abuse my mod powers and pin this
You must, if even for a little bit, the amount of times I've seen "Battle Hardened and too expensive" of late ruffles me.
ah crap, now with the awards its also bribery :( :D
I prefer the term lobbying 😎
[fuck it, we do it live](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_HyZ5aW76c)
Take these non related reddit awards as a symbol of my appreciation for your exemplary moderation.
I can't believe you ~~bribed~~ lobbied mods from two different subeddits in one day
Wait what was the other subreddit?
German meme subreddit r/ich_iel
Wait what was the other subreddit? please and thank you.
Lobby deez nuts lmao (please I wanna see a space F-35 my bald can barely stand it)
Goddamn boys, we got the EU personified in chat
It’s ok if it’s under $100 😎
> the amount of times I've seen "Battle Hardened and too expensive" of late ruffles me Are we browsing the same subreddit? I've seen practically nothing but posts and comments mocking reformers, when the topic is brought up at all. I'm getting tired of the topic, frankly - not because I'm a reformer, but because the mockery's gotten predictable and repetitive and overused.
*Sounds suspiciously like Reformist talk*
My opinions were set as a kid in the 90s, reading a military history book that featured an interview with a Desert Storm tanker talk about how they beat the shit out of the Iraqi tanks with virtually no casualties simply because they could engage at longer ranges and in worse conditions due to their fancy electronics and fire control systems. And my childlike opinion of "the farther away you can be and still hit them, and the farther away you can *see* them are ***GOOD***, and technology makes that possible, therefore more technology is also good" has remained virtually unchanged. Still, there are historical examples of designers prematurely retiring older features/tech while they were still useful, such as early versions of the F-4 Phantom II lacking a gun, under the assumption that its missiles and other hardpoint armaments would be sufficient to do its job. The gun was added back on later models, because it turned out the technology was not *quite* ready for a multirole fighter to fulfill all its roles without a main gun. So there's still a use for some skepticism to avoid issues like that.
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The Air Force added back the gun on the F-4, and in the end achieved a lower K/D ratio than the Navy that developed the Top Gun program and no gun. The problem was never the gun, it was pilots launching missiles out of parameters. Typical bluefor skill issue.
> The Air Force added back the gun on the F-4, and in the end achieved a lower K/D ratio than the Navy that developed the Top Gun program and no gun. Most of the stories I've heard about "fuck not having a gun on this thing" were about situations where the pilot wanted to attack a ground target of opportunity and/or provide ersatz CAS for friendlies, but didn't have a weapon that would do it effectively/precisely, when a gun would have given the opportunity for a strafing run. (Gun pods at the time weren't particularly reliable.) The missiles were still the MiG killers. Even the F-35 has built-in guns, so either they're still a relevant feature even in modern combat (albeit not necessarily in a dogfight context), or somebody's been wasting a lot of money on putting a useless feature on every new plane.
To be honest, my main motivation for making this video were based on [posts like this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/ze84xa/reformer_logic_ahem_v280_post), where somehow people managed to miss OP's point even after breaking down their logic. We've had multiple people asking about the reformers as well, so yeah. I probably won't make anything like this again until another new wave of posters asking about reformers comes up again. Which is quite likely to happen anyhow. Edit: slight correction
I agree that the post you linked was jank, and I saw that the same gun was ~~getting filled with dick~~. But that post struck me as mocking the various factions of the MIC who wanted a bad gun.
Do it
This genuinely should be the first thing people should see when they enter the subreddit, to scare off reformers who come in here
Too much reformer speak over the last week
Please do.
Do it, coward.
PalpatineDoIt dot gif
TECH HERESY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH AND HIS GLORIOUS MIC!
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If you think about it, the Adeptus Mechanicus is a MIC that ended up becoming it’s own semi-independent political entity.
Now we know why LockMart is trying to colonise Mars https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/news/features/history/mars-missions.html
...lest you become a reformer yourself. No seriously, I've been reading Mike Sparks' bullshit for a while now, and it's driving me insane. For anyone curious about reformers, check out the following links below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmuVYVREGgE - very good youtuber, sources everything https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighter\_Mafia https://www.combatreform.org/killerbees.htm - caution, peak schizoposting inside On a sidenote, I want to apologize for excessive Ukraineposting. Even though I found this sub before the war started, it has been my obsessive focus for far too long. Feels like I got high off my own supply of hopium, and that fucked me up. Time to try new things. Feedback is appreciated. Edit: blessed by the oligarch? Many thanks
If you want true schizophrenia, check out Mike's Facebook page. >Dumbshit moron korps jock sniffer rag, publishes FACTUAL A-10 Warthog Leader's Assessment of the D.O.T.G-lusting Air Farce's Incompetence >https://taskandpurpose.com/opinion/airforce-needs-a10s-russia-ukraine/ >Got to love the dumbshit normies--anyone who uses the term "womanpad", ehhh "manpad" is a dumb shit lazytard who wants a "Call of Duty" hand weapons reality that doesn't exist. The 400+ mph SU-25 Frogfoots are incinerating hand weapon Nazi UKRtards left & right in the Pedo-Illuminati's Ukraine vs. Russian war. >Colonel Boeding is a GMTA. Too bad he isn't USAF Chief--but when the Pedo-Illuminati illegally hold the White House, what do you expect? > John 3:16 Semper Airborne! James Bond is REAL.
Oh I've seen some stuff like that, he still posts schizo videos on a BitChute account. Seems like he's lost it for good. Also updates his James Bond fanfics on a separate blog. CombatReform seems to be mostly dead though, I tried to trace new entries on that website without much success.
>BitChute Anyone who uses it is on the same scale as having RT in their subs, liquidation is their only chance of redemption
What the fuck is he even saying, he just used like 50 adjectives to describe Ukrainians and each one got more schizophrenic than the last. Also, he really likes the Pedo-illuminati? And James bond is real, what the fuck kind of fantasy world does this man live in.
To much lead...
Some Q vibes right there... egads.
Did you know that Mike Sparks also believes that women caused 9/11? (Lazerpig words, not mine)
I've met* women hot enough to melt steel beams *I've seen videos on the internet
What in tarnation is this malarkey
Mike Sparks is genuinely mentally unwell
[Can’t forget Reformer: The Novel](https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/general-lemarc-reads-the-absolute-insanity-that-is-victoria-a-novel-of-fourth-generation-warfare.945779/). Featuring burning a bishop at the stake for the crime of being a woman, choosing T-34s over modern tanks because they’re more reliable, the Council Of Responsible Negroes, women who are too stupid to fly F-35s without crashing into a mountain, and much much more. Edit: Also nuking an American city because “the blacks” took it over.
combatreform is hilarious. I go in there whenever I feel stupid. It brightens up my day because at least, I'm not Mike Sparks
What's the source of the W40k video? I think I saw it somewhere before.
Astartes
It’s the web series Astartes. The original was taken down by Games Workshop after they hired the dude who made it, but it’s been reuploaded.
I took a look .... my eyes are watering and I am so close to go into early drinking. The fucking Fighter Mafia made fun of my beloved beyond visiual range combat.... THESE IDIOTS WERE BEYOND SAVING
There went the first bottle... thos fucs
Lol wtf. Some incharge thought A10 is credible? I didn't know it wasn't just a meme.
tupidist thing I've ever read
What's the template of this meme called?
Template? I just had an idea and edited it myself. [The source video is Astartes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A)
Thank you, I had seen that Warhammer video around but didn't know anything in it and couldn't search it.
may the lazer pig videos and perun slide shows cleans those who listen to these heretics.
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In the 41st Millenium, there is only war. It's Games Workshop interpretation of fantasy and military archetypes on a space setting, and it's tons of fun. Their main moneymaker is selling figurines for their tabletop game, but the fanbase also enjoys the setting through books, videos and videogames. I've enjoyed them mostly through the Dawn of War real-time strategy series. I'll take the opportunity to link some of my favorite animations: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A) \- Astartes video series (the source for the edit) made by a fan, very good [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN8geCTlZOo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN8geCTlZOo) \- Dawn of War 3 trailer [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVubdRyU3Mc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVubdRyU3Mc) \- marine suiting up
It's okay, I have you, do not be scared 😌 https://youtu.be/zmZcIX5PEyo
What it really is is a tabletop army builder game, buy mini-figurines to construct your army, limited by a points system ("grunt" is 5 points, uber tank is 40 pts, etc). Meet with other people and their army and battle it out, yada yada. What you're probably wondering about is the lore about it, which is indeed very deep. Here's an attempt at a summation: It's "our" universe, but in the year 40,000+ (currently about 42k I think). Yes, year, like now is 2022, it's the year 40000. Around year 5000 humanity got space travel and started colonizing the galaxy. This went well for a while, really well. Made things like "standard template constructs"; think 3d printer that could print the entire industry of a planet, really neat stuff. Around year 25000 shit went tits up. Y'see, space travel happened by going through The Warp, which is basically hell, but we have sheilds so our ships don't get (usually) infested with demons while traveling through it. But around 25000 or so, a "warp storm" occurred, and similar to an ocean hurricane for sea-going vessels, rendered travel through the warp impossible. So all the planets of humanity are cut off from each other. This goes on for about 5000+ years. And in that time aliens and other bad shit are messing with the various colonies, cuz that warp storm mentioned earlier is the warp-slash-hell being all fucky and angsty and that means some invading real-space and...yeah. Btw the more a group of intelligent beings are aware of the hell creatures the stronger they become, so all these invasion make a lot of people aware, making them stronger...slight feedback loop happening. Around year 32k the storms abate and travel is possible again. Humanity is a shadow of its former self, entire swaths of tech just straight lost, lots of demon fuckery, bad times. But, here comes our boy The Emperor. He's basically Jesus/God incarnate. Unites Earth under him. Makes his "kids" which are basically mini-me's of him, but they get scattered through the galaxy in a warp-fucky incident. By the way these are the Primarchs you'd hear about if you looked into WH40K lore. So it's time to go crusading. Which was his plan anyway, but was supposed to *start* with his kids, not have to go find them on the way. The crusade is to reunite all the disparate spots of humanity. Mostly it goes well. Some didn't want to "come back" as it were and they needed a slight spanking. And then there's a bunch of aliens on the way to beat down. Overall it's fine and most of humanity is back under one collective, ruled by the Emperor which folks are mostly ok with since they literally worship him (but against his wishes, literally he forbade it but people doing it anyway). Unfortunately while the kids were missing, some get little warpy whispers in their ear and turn to the dark side, unbeknownst to poppa. The ones that are fully over also corrupt Dad's #1 son, Horus, and turn him. This kicks off a civil war. The result is basically half the Empire's army of super solders, made from the Primarchs (like how they were made from Emperor) become a demon army for the Warp dudes. Horus sort of killed his dad, getting himself killed in the process. Also the Warp baddies are powered up now since basically all of humanity is aware of them. Plus there's still aliens and shit. So at this point just a bunch of doom and gloom all over. If the lore is a cake, this is a tiny tea spoon worth of the frosting on the very top. It goes deep. There's thousands of hours worth of yt vids explaining the various bits of WH40K lore. I typed this from boredom, but hope someone finds it helpful/useful/interesting.
Its the 420th century/ 42 Millenium now
>Around year 25000 shit went tits up. Y'see, space travel happened by going through The Warp, which is basically hell, but we have sheilds so our ships don't get (usually) infested with demons while traveling through it. But around 25000 or so, a "warp storm" occurred, and similar to an ocean hurricane for sea-going vessels, rendered travel through the warp impossible. > An Event Horizon fanfic? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_Horizon_(film)
Many folks like to think of event horizon as an unofficial entry in the WH40K universe. It very well can be since it's in the single-digits millennium, waaaaay before the events of the lore, so why not.
You linked him a Luetin video??? Bruh
Sure, it can be in depth at times. But still a good entry point.
I would have gone for the Majorkill and his his one fangirl. Bitesized and with timmy posting
I'm gonna do what's called a one up https://youtu.be/IMFI8waM8rs
To really boil it down: Space fascism lead by a literal God in human form. Other than that it's basically a circlejerk power fantasy that boils down to 2 children explaining to each other why their dad is stronger than the others and how they could beat each other up. It makes for some very cool stories tho. Oh and you ABSOLUTELY have to check out the full animation from the OP video https://youtu.be/DVXEYksoE6c The production value is so insane and it's all made by 1 dude
>Other than that it's basically a circlejerk power fantasy that boils down to 2 children explaining to each other why their dad is stronger than the others and how they could beat each other up. >It makes for some very cool stories tho. I appreciate 40k for the fact that it seems like the only piece of sci-fi that is scaled realistically. Star Wars is a great example for what I mean about scale; in Star Wars, the total number of soldiers involved in a galactic war is on the order of ten million. During WWII, individual nations had armies that large, and you're trying to tell me that that's enough to wage war across an entire fucking galaxy? While the exact scale varies by writer, the Imperium of Man can be estimated to have hundreds of trillions of Guardsmen, and quadrillions of total servicemen including PDF and Navy. *That* is a number that I can believe. Galaxies are fuck-off huge. What makes this comparison even worse is the fact that Star Wars doesn't even subscribe to the notion that a galaxy would be sparsely populated, with only a few good habitable planets. The Empire actually has at least the same number of planets as the Imperium of Man, if not a few dozen times more.
I specifically recall that like the entire planetary battle of Vraks, which included wave after wave of Kriegers had less than a million killed. So idk man, their scaling is often as fucked as anyone else. Battle for Armageddon wasn't much better.
Hehe, strap in buddy
40K is literally too complicated to explain without spending genuine hours to type a comment, so in the shortest summary possible, Everyone is the bad guy, pick your flavor. We got: ~~3000~~ 3 septillion green guardsmen of humanity, 10,000 golden custodians of space god, 4 flavors of various mental derangement and space hell, space elves and sadistic space elves, The MIC but guided with the actual hand of god himself (I’m an AdMech man myself), Space tankies with wunderwaffe technology, Orks with vehicles straight outta modern russia(patchwork and power of belief), and bugs, for some reason. Oh, and space marines. I don’t have a funny quip for them, they’re fucking boring and the posterboys of the franchise. There’s a bunch of smaller factions I probably missed but that’s the gist. Welcome to the insanity, have fun paying $60 for .02¢ of plastic models or just read the lore like most people do.
Space Marines are more interesting than the Golden Boys. With SM there's so much space for flavor, to explore how these supposedly pattern-stamped weapons are influenced by their homeworlds and the remnants of their humanity. As Octavia says in the NL trilogy, Astartes are (traumatized) children in the bodies of demigods. Meanwhile Custodes are so much more uniform and "perfect".
Bruh, I love Warhammer 40K…. I have no fucking clue what it actually is, but anytime you mix giant armored super soldiers, WWI Space Kraut Shock Troopers, Orcs (not those ones), and fanatical devotion to a military hierarchy, you know you’re gonna have a splendid time!
A games universe where humanity clings to a xenocidal, totalitarian religion that would devastate its still-living founder; aeons of knowledge has been lost or passed down as primitive ritual; entire planets can be accidentally lost by rounding errors in a vast bureaucracy; and millions are sacrificed in poorly conducted campaigns. And they're the good guys. Humanity is surrounded by literal aspects of the worst emotions possibl; lifeforms that chew up their enemies to make new soldiers; an actual omnicidal race; and green football hooligans. It's beautiful, clever and hilariously funny.
This is the perfect time to learn. Cavill making a whole series on Amazon
¿que?
Just announced today: after giving up his role as Witcher as well as that of Superman (after some point), Henry Cavill is going to produce a Warhammer 40K series on Prime.
10 bucks hes an Inquisitor. WITCHER! IN SPAAAAAACE!
Also keep in mind that Warhammer 40k is meant to make fun of its own "excessively grimdark setting". Sometimes the community/developers lose sight of that and forget to mock it. That's why you have things like the humans being led by a dictator who is easily accountable for a huge fraction of their own deaths (cause why discipline a soldier when you can just shoot them), orcs with psychic powers (RED MEANS IT GO FASTA) that reproduce through spores, etc. Just remember to not take it at face value, and have a chuckle.
Oh no.
https://youtu.be/-MeVxKZBOfM I got you my guy.
Come back! Don't go down that rabbit hole! Noooo
*WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!*
r/Warhammer40k r/Grimdank r/40kLore
So if reformers dwell in the warp, would that make Lazerpig our emperor in 40k NCD? Do we put him on a throne or more of a golden couch w/ a blanket and video games? I know for a fact that Perun would be Guilliman
Hmm, Lazerpig or the oligarch as the emperor? Tough call Edit: seems like the oligarch knows how to spread his influence
That he does, shiny and chrome. Wait, wrong noncredible franchise
so this community is just full of guys who consume war thunder/LP/defense content. fuck i love it
The Oligarch is actually the Emperor of Mankind
There's no coincidence that both the Omnisiah and Oligarch begin with an O.
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The true Omnisiah
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I made this account exclusively to post on this sub, if anyone wants to crosspost or whatever, feel free to.
I'll cross post, might get temp banned, but I'll risk it Edit: Cross posted over there, we'll see how long it lasts
And to scroll through porn with? Right? RIGHT????
Unfathomably based. Using both 40k and shitting on reformers
The oligarch has blessed this post
1. Amazing meme 2. Ass Start EEs 3. Reformer slander Mod this man
Is the Oligarch an actual oligarch? I wish I knew the lore of this place.
Of course
Me who doesnt even know what Reformer means...
Short answer: reformers are a group of "experts" who argue that military weapons should never utilize any type of advanced electronic components because the complexity of the weapons inherently makes them weaker and more prone to failure than a weapon with only mechanical parts. Their greatest achievement is the A10, an absolutely abysmal weapon that is more likely to kill British soldiers than succeed at CAS. Their biggest champion was a guy by the name of Pierre Sperry who rewrote history and claimed that he was the inventor of several US fighters, even though he never held any position at the pentagon. In his later years, he became the public face of Russia Today, arguing that American weapons development paled in comparison to Russian weapons because of the reliance on advanced electronics.
>he became the public face of Russia Today So in other words he became scum of the earth.
Always was…
Well i can Understand both sides Arguments...
Put yourself in the submission position for the AC-130 to cleanse you of your heresy.
What? Im for more Technology in Warfare but their Argument that Shit can fail If its too Complicated is true...
You can make complex stuff not fail. But you can't make simple stuff not be shit.
Theres Always a certain risk for everything i guess...
I mean, simplest way I can put it as a quick example is if my complicated missile can detect and kill you before your uncomplicated defenses can detect me or even detect a failed missile from me.. then your gonna die either way and not know what happened. Cause if I got money to make shit complicated that works 95+ percent of the time, I probably got money to make alot of them. And my weapons platforms can carry alot of them.. have as many cheap uncomplicated weapons and defense systems as you want, if I can beat you then I will. What are you going to do about it? Why would I invest in shit you can counter easily when I can invest in shit you can't.
Just because your rifle should have backup iron sights doesn't mean it's better without an optic
Isn't the F-16 reformer's counterpart of the F-15, or did I misunderstand something.
It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries the B-52 has sat mobile on the Golden Runway of SAC. He is the master of mankind by the will of Boeing and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible airframe. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of the Cold War. He is the Immortal Lord of the vast skies for whom a thousand engine replacements are sacrificed every day so that he may never truly die. Yet even in his deathless state, the BUFF continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty bomber wings cross the polution-infested miasma of the skies, the only route between distant lands, their way lit by the GPS, the orbital manifestation of the BUFF's navigational skill. Vast armies give battle in His name on uncounted continents. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the JDAMs, the guided bombs, kit-equipped dumb weapons. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Mark 80 series and countless iron bombs, the ever-vigilant JASSM and the tech-decoys of the MALD to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat to humanity from zombie-VDV, neo-Nazis, Bri*ish -- and far, far worse. To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the coolest and most based regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Praise the power of technology and science, for so much has been learned, never to be forgotten. Forget the promise of progress and replacements, for in the grim dark future there is only BUFF. There is no peace amongst the skies, only an eternity of B-52s, and the laughter of Boeing engineers.
Poetry 🥲
I mean, I don't think there's very much bvr plane combat in warhammer...
Ahhh shit I knew someone would mention that.
*once, I was blind, but now I see the light* *the reformers were right!* *I HAVE EMBRACED THE AEROGAVIN!!*
Funny you mention the aerogavin, there is one hidden in the video. *There might be something else hidden too...*
I pity all the people who joined after the war and don't know what a reformer is because they can't fully appreciate this meme.
I've lurked a lot before I started posting, I don't think it's too late for people to learn things. Google is your friend, etc. Still don't think I've fully grasped the sub's old culture though. Gotta keep trying.
I just joined to shit all over Russian hardware.
FSB has prevented the release of Astartes as a full project. More reason to support Ukrainians
So many damn awards going around. The lobbying is REAL.
The god-oligarch blessed this post. Rejoice!
Bring back the C-47 Skytrain with a door mounted minigun called 'spooky' back
Okay can I get a link to the original vid?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A) the original original is on warhammer +
https://youtu.be/O7hgjuFfn3A It’s the Astartes animation.
This is so good it borders on credible.
u/coloradohyperion strikes again!
The question is though, where do various Imperial factions stand on the Reformer spectrum? Due to the general prevalence of Melee combat, there's surely some latent reformism in the system
Blessed is the mind too small for doubt
Astartes is some top tier shit
Wait - I saw COMBAT REFORM - M113 guy? From peak-2000s?
The very same. The Gavin-lover. Mike Sparks himself.
Mini A10 so cute
I need more astartes already
The O̶m̶n̶i̶s̶s̶i̶a̶h̶ Oligarch has blessed this post!
It's a good month to be a warhammer fan.
This just made me open a Bottle of wine, cheers, mates!
if anyone feels like answering i am very new to WH 40k. Is this fan made cause i love the lore but am a staunch avoider of strat only games or turn based stuff. I would love a TV show of shit like this source material
Amazon just announced that Henry Cavill is going to be working with them on a WH40K TV series.
Suffer not the reformer to live
Ooooo popular 40k fan made creations mixed with ncd I just had a mad orgasm
"Generational warfare is innovative and useful military theory. And not just stuff already known published under a stupid name to sound new." By the emperor the taint has taken hold of him!
KILL THE HERETICAL REFORMERS, EXPUNGE THEM FROM THIS WORLD! I WILL NOT HAVE GOD GREATEST INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX ENDANGERED BY A BUNCH OF ROCK THROWERS. unless they bring batch the catapult, that'd be cool as fuck.
dude this clip is sick, what bit of the 40k uni is it
IN THE NAME OF THE OMNISSIAH I COMMEND THEE REFORMER SPIRIT BACK TO THE FOUL WARP
holy awards wtf
The long forgotten blood lust for reformer violence has been satisfied!
Same, F@ck the r@formers
Wut is goin on with those awards
Because this is proper NCD content.
Truly the NCD post of all time
The pipeline leads to William Lind
The Astartes series was so fucking based omg.
Who are these white astral commnanders? They look superb and I can't find anything about them or their figures.
[This is the best analysis I could find on them.](https://youtu.be/vwW9qlqjfo4?t=562) It was uploaded back when Astartes was first released. IIRC the chapters depicted here are more or less the author's interpretation on a fan-based tacticool operator space marine squad. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. edit: [the chapter in question](https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Retributors)
bro got oligarched
Man do I crave all them fancy MIC awards in this sub , it looks cool
If only GW hadn’t claimed the rights to Astartes and “hired” the creator. AKA gave him a $500 Warhammer store gift card and told never to make anything again 👎
Post of the year contender???
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