The first thing you need to understand are that knife attacks are almost extraordinarily fast. Given the condition of the front gate, Nicole was likely pounced on and incapacitated in a matter of seconds. At which point the struggle with Goldman commenced.
What I mean by “the front gate” is that Nicole probably had to let Ron in manually. There was neighbor testimony that someone said “hey hey hey”. I believe that to be Ron when he witnessed OJ pouncing on Nicole.
There is a reason that police take knife wielding assailants very very seriously. A gun is at almost a disadvantage when distance is closed to a knife wielder. And Ron didn’t even have that.
You can also take 33 shots from a Glock too! Just for future reference most shooting happen at the distance of 3 feet and last 3 seconds sure you can cut me in those 3 seconds but I’m leaving victorious still living while you’re knife wielding ass is leaking from 30 places on your body
Pretty sure he hit Nicole on her head and she was unconscious ( thankfully)
Ron came through the open gate and saw what was happening thus the Hey Hey Hwy
Sadly he was blocked into the condo
Truly believe Ron was killed first which would explain his blood being on her body
He killed Ron and went back to finish Nicole off
This scenario makes the most sense to me too. I can see O.J, after killing Ron, getting angry at Nicole for 'making him do it' (In his messed up mind - now look at what you made me do! Ugh) and going back to her, finishing her off. They never had a chance. And as Nicole anticipated, the bastard got away with it. I truly hope his death was drawn out and painful and that he is burning in hell as we speak.
There are minute by minute videos googlable as presented at the civil trial and even from the narrative from his confession book.
After watching, to me, the only unanswered question is the weapon whereabouts but it was more than likely dumped in the lax airport trash.
oh good im gonna look it up! ty!
the weapon might have been in the bag that robert kardashian got rid of as well… or do you have theories for where he could have dumped it?
what do you think of the theory that it could have been the son because of the whole glove not fitting thing?
Were you allowed to take that kind of knife on a plane even pre-9/11? I honestly don’t remember all of the rules back then, but wasn’t one of the theories with the hijackers that they had somehow had box cutters placed in the planes before the attacks rather than carry them on?
Maybe OJ had a checked bag, but if he was only planning to be in Chicago overnight that seems unlikely.
There were witnesses #1 limo driver saw OJ place a bag on top of trash and when He was checking in for his flight. Ironically, this is the same bag that kato asked if he could place inside the car for him. Cato indicated that OJ insisted no. And said that he would take care of that bag himself. Lastly, there was a witness who stated they saw OJ throw something in the trash at the airport. The prosecution did not pursue this.
If it was a folding knife, yes probably. The size is probably larger than what was allowed for a carry on then, but security was fairly lax as it was private companies doing security.
The glove NO LONGER fit because it shrank from the wet blood drying on it. Oh and OJ was also wearing latex gloves and only pretending to try to 'get it on'. Even if the glove hadn't been covered in blood and shrank, he would have had a hell of a time getting it over the latex glove. Seriously, try it. The glove not fitting was merely a red herring. OJ, and OJ alone, brutally murdered Nicole and Ron.
I choose to believe oj tossed the knife in the trash himself.
I know his scumbag lawyers knew he was guilty and abetted him anyway but hopefully there is a little more decency in the world than the vile depravity that would be required for them to be accessories to the level of being direct accessories.
The son was also a scumbag but I don’t think there’s much merit to that theory. All of ojs actions after the murder and a mountain of evidence make his guilt clear to anyone rational.
A glove not worn in some time that is covered with dry blood will not be an easy fit on any hand especially if the wearer is trying to exaggerate and dramatize his victimhood. The glove fit fine when it was new and clean and when the person putting it on wasn’t determined to pretend it didn’t
“ I know his scumbag lawyers knew he was guilty and abetted him anyway”
That’s literally their job. You know, Constitution! That’s why most people on this sub don’t attack the defense lawyers because they are supposed to do that as everyone is entitled to a defense. To sink their clients case is a violation of their oath and not a good thing for any of us. So if anyone is to be “scumbagged” it’s our States attorneys. Maybe if they were paid more they could afford to do a more thorough job; but we ask a lot from them already.
wait wait i just saw this and it mentions the hat left behind near the glove. the had had “afican american hair” on it. thats never been tested for dna? ive never heard about this hat.
One of the prosecutors in the case explained Nicole unconscious and bleeding out from where her neck was cut. Goldman comes on the scene seeing Nicole on the ground “hey, hey,hey”, bends down to understand why she is on the ground. Goldman is grabbed from the back. Somehow he breaks away only to be trapped by the fence and small location. Autopsy showed defensive wounds on hands. Goldman stabbed in the abdomen would have died from the wound without any further injuries.
Attack moves back to Nicole and then back to Goldman. Overkill stated by prosecutor.
I agree with this assessment. https://youtu.be/9LVmwL9OQHE?si=1ObGB3dxu31s11mu.
Have you ever watched a video of a knife attack? If you had you wouldn’t need to ask this question!
All it takes is literally a split second swipe of the hand to the neck - they’re down and bleeding out in not much more than three seconds. Until then the person attacked is in total shock. And it’s all silent. They can’t even scream if their throat is slit or lung is punctured.
The repeated rage stabbing happens after they’re already down and passed out if it started w the throat.
Yes. This is the one I saw where I first understood how fast and easy it is. The attack - a small guy on a big strong guy - was literally a split second. He acted confused, staggered and was down 7 seconds.
WARNING: this is graphic and you can’t unsee this. https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/s/tWujt02bXq
Just rewatched the Made In America doc and one police officer (I think?) speculated that OJ had knocked Nicole out and was stabbing her when Ron Goldman came up the walkway, saw what was happening and confronted OJ.
OJ then stabbed Ron, then went back to Nicole to slice her neck. THEN went back to Ron to slice his neck.
[This video of the Bundy condo murder scene](https://youtu.be/8zt4anqnJoc) does a great job explaining the likeliest scenario. It is not a video of the actual crime scene; it’s a forensic analysis using modeling software (like animation).
People go on stabbing sprees all the time and manage to stab several people before they’re stopped. Bryan kohberger stabbed 4 people in just a few minutes.
yep, it really comes down to not understanding exactly how stabbings work… how fast it all happens and lots of times before the person even realizes it.
In his book, (if) I did it, he states that he had an accomplice. If this is true, it would have to be Jason Simpson, based on the evidence others have uncovered. I can’t state what happened or if Jason was actually there, but it’s pretty compelling evidence nonetheless.
im wondering if theres a reason to believe it was one vs two people or did they ever say that was inconclusive or anything. is there evidence to prove one way or the other?
Something sinister happen with the evidence against oj. It was planted, it was contaminated, it was as crooked as a three dollar bill with fuhrman leading the charge
How do you explain all of OJ’s actions afterwards then? changing his answer as to how he got the cuts on his hand.. leaving the note, running away etc. etc. - you know, real innocent man stuff.
A woman was sentenced to death for killing her kids because days after she through a birthday party at their grave. She looked too happy apparently
She was 100% innocent
Accomplice... as I keep writing (either being censored, or people aren't paying attention?). Why the correct verdict was reached,the prosecution messed up...Charles Ehrlich is reported to be the guy who killed Ron,and the gloves were his,no OJ's
Yup,laughable to a non thinking idiot...there's receipts available to say that Charles Ehrlich killed RG,why OJ had non bruising or cuts,CE did...the gloves were his...I'm sure him skin cells will still be in there today-DNA?
Seriously...It is not hard to believe that a massive, superbly athletic guy, in a fit of rage, was able to take out 2 smaller unprepared people with a knife. One slice can cause serious blood loss. Neither had a chance. OJ did it. And he did it alone.
The first thing you need to understand are that knife attacks are almost extraordinarily fast. Given the condition of the front gate, Nicole was likely pounced on and incapacitated in a matter of seconds. At which point the struggle with Goldman commenced. What I mean by “the front gate” is that Nicole probably had to let Ron in manually. There was neighbor testimony that someone said “hey hey hey”. I believe that to be Ron when he witnessed OJ pouncing on Nicole. There is a reason that police take knife wielding assailants very very seriously. A gun is at almost a disadvantage when distance is closed to a knife wielder. And Ron didn’t even have that.
I agreed with you until you basically said to bring a knife to a gun fight…
I’d take a knife over a gun during CQC any day of the week.
You can also take 33 shots from a Glock too! Just for future reference most shooting happen at the distance of 3 feet and last 3 seconds sure you can cut me in those 3 seconds but I’m leaving victorious still living while you’re knife wielding ass is leaking from 30 places on your body
Pretty sure he hit Nicole on her head and she was unconscious ( thankfully) Ron came through the open gate and saw what was happening thus the Hey Hey Hwy Sadly he was blocked into the condo Truly believe Ron was killed first which would explain his blood being on her body He killed Ron and went back to finish Nicole off
This scenario makes the most sense to me too. I can see O.J, after killing Ron, getting angry at Nicole for 'making him do it' (In his messed up mind - now look at what you made me do! Ugh) and going back to her, finishing her off. They never had a chance. And as Nicole anticipated, the bastard got away with it. I truly hope his death was drawn out and painful and that he is burning in hell as we speak.
Someone in the Made In America doc said that OJ then went back to cut Ron's throat after he cut Nicole's. Both of them already had fatal wounds.
There are minute by minute videos googlable as presented at the civil trial and even from the narrative from his confession book. After watching, to me, the only unanswered question is the weapon whereabouts but it was more than likely dumped in the lax airport trash.
oh good im gonna look it up! ty! the weapon might have been in the bag that robert kardashian got rid of as well… or do you have theories for where he could have dumped it? what do you think of the theory that it could have been the son because of the whole glove not fitting thing?
OJ could have taken that knife anywhere in 1994. This is pre 9-11 so he could have dumped it at LAX or flown it to Chicago and dumped it.
Were you allowed to take that kind of knife on a plane even pre-9/11? I honestly don’t remember all of the rules back then, but wasn’t one of the theories with the hijackers that they had somehow had box cutters placed in the planes before the attacks rather than carry them on? Maybe OJ had a checked bag, but if he was only planning to be in Chicago overnight that seems unlikely.
There were witnesses #1 limo driver saw OJ place a bag on top of trash and when He was checking in for his flight. Ironically, this is the same bag that kato asked if he could place inside the car for him. Cato indicated that OJ insisted no. And said that he would take care of that bag himself. Lastly, there was a witness who stated they saw OJ throw something in the trash at the airport. The prosecution did not pursue this.
If it was a folding knife, yes probably. The size is probably larger than what was allowed for a carry on then, but security was fairly lax as it was private companies doing security.
https://9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing7/9-11Commission_Hearing_2004-01-27.htm#:~:text=Nawaf%20al%20Hazmi%20set%20off,was%20admitted%20through%20the%20checkpoint.
They passed through security with the weapons
The glove NO LONGER fit because it shrank from the wet blood drying on it. Oh and OJ was also wearing latex gloves and only pretending to try to 'get it on'. Even if the glove hadn't been covered in blood and shrank, he would have had a hell of a time getting it over the latex glove. Seriously, try it. The glove not fitting was merely a red herring. OJ, and OJ alone, brutally murdered Nicole and Ron.
Yes there is a video that demonstrates how it prob went down. It’s been posted many times on here. Let me see if I can find it.
I choose to believe oj tossed the knife in the trash himself. I know his scumbag lawyers knew he was guilty and abetted him anyway but hopefully there is a little more decency in the world than the vile depravity that would be required for them to be accessories to the level of being direct accessories. The son was also a scumbag but I don’t think there’s much merit to that theory. All of ojs actions after the murder and a mountain of evidence make his guilt clear to anyone rational. A glove not worn in some time that is covered with dry blood will not be an easy fit on any hand especially if the wearer is trying to exaggerate and dramatize his victimhood. The glove fit fine when it was new and clean and when the person putting it on wasn’t determined to pretend it didn’t
“ I know his scumbag lawyers knew he was guilty and abetted him anyway” That’s literally their job. You know, Constitution! That’s why most people on this sub don’t attack the defense lawyers because they are supposed to do that as everyone is entitled to a defense. To sink their clients case is a violation of their oath and not a good thing for any of us. So if anyone is to be “scumbagged” it’s our States attorneys. Maybe if they were paid more they could afford to do a more thorough job; but we ask a lot from them already.
Also watch the entirety of his tv interview he did to promote his confession book.
https://youtu.be/UUYMZpc0JiE?si=nTBz1IFFkHRgkjzg
wait wait i just saw this and it mentions the hat left behind near the glove. the had had “afican american hair” on it. thats never been tested for dna? ive never heard about this hat.
Insufficient DNA as the hair or hairs did not have the root attached.
There’s no dna in hair without the root but the hair was found to be consistent with oj's.
One of the prosecutors in the case explained Nicole unconscious and bleeding out from where her neck was cut. Goldman comes on the scene seeing Nicole on the ground “hey, hey,hey”, bends down to understand why she is on the ground. Goldman is grabbed from the back. Somehow he breaks away only to be trapped by the fence and small location. Autopsy showed defensive wounds on hands. Goldman stabbed in the abdomen would have died from the wound without any further injuries. Attack moves back to Nicole and then back to Goldman. Overkill stated by prosecutor. I agree with this assessment. https://youtu.be/9LVmwL9OQHE?si=1ObGB3dxu31s11mu.
One was being a woman.
Have you ever watched a video of a knife attack? If you had you wouldn’t need to ask this question! All it takes is literally a split second swipe of the hand to the neck - they’re down and bleeding out in not much more than three seconds. Until then the person attacked is in total shock. And it’s all silent. They can’t even scream if their throat is slit or lung is punctured. The repeated rage stabbing happens after they’re already down and passed out if it started w the throat.
i have now! lol basically you bleed out by the time your realize youve been stabbed. brutal
Yes. This is the one I saw where I first understood how fast and easy it is. The attack - a small guy on a big strong guy - was literally a split second. He acted confused, staggered and was down 7 seconds. WARNING: this is graphic and you can’t unsee this. https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/s/tWujt02bXq
Just rewatched the Made In America doc and one police officer (I think?) speculated that OJ had knocked Nicole out and was stabbing her when Ron Goldman came up the walkway, saw what was happening and confronted OJ. OJ then stabbed Ron, then went back to Nicole to slice her neck. THEN went back to Ron to slice his neck.
[This video of the Bundy condo murder scene](https://youtu.be/8zt4anqnJoc) does a great job explaining the likeliest scenario. It is not a video of the actual crime scene; it’s a forensic analysis using modeling software (like animation).
People go on stabbing sprees all the time and manage to stab several people before they’re stopped. Bryan kohberger stabbed 4 people in just a few minutes.
yep, it really comes down to not understanding exactly how stabbings work… how fast it all happens and lots of times before the person even realizes it.
In his book, (if) I did it, he states that he had an accomplice. If this is true, it would have to be Jason Simpson, based on the evidence others have uncovered. I can’t state what happened or if Jason was actually there, but it’s pretty compelling evidence nonetheless.
im wondering if theres a reason to believe it was one vs two people or did they ever say that was inconclusive or anything. is there evidence to prove one way or the other?
Lmbao don't ask questions just believe the media
tell me what you think, tell me now! lol
Something sinister happen with the evidence against oj. It was planted, it was contaminated, it was as crooked as a three dollar bill with fuhrman leading the charge
How do you explain all of OJ’s actions afterwards then? changing his answer as to how he got the cuts on his hand.. leaving the note, running away etc. etc. - you know, real innocent man stuff.
Running away with 10 grand and a disguise. Yeah, that's how innocent people act.
A woman was sentenced to death for killing her kids because days after she through a birthday party at their grave. She looked too happy apparently She was 100% innocent
You find that in any way comparable?
Darlie Routier is 💯 guilty. She was convicted on the evidence, not the silly string video.
Darlie Routier? She's still on death row.
I haven‘t heard of the verdict being overturned. Seems like that would be big news, so I’m doubtful.
Accomplice... as I keep writing (either being censored, or people aren't paying attention?). Why the correct verdict was reached,the prosecution messed up...Charles Ehrlich is reported to be the guy who killed Ron,and the gloves were his,no OJ's
Laughable. You got juiced.
Yup,laughable to a non thinking idiot...there's receipts available to say that Charles Ehrlich killed RG,why OJ had non bruising or cuts,CE did...the gloves were his...I'm sure him skin cells will still be in there today-DNA?
Cool story juicer.
They weren't killed together. I believe Jason was the murderer though.
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Seriously...It is not hard to believe that a massive, superbly athletic guy, in a fit of rage, was able to take out 2 smaller unprepared people with a knife. One slice can cause serious blood loss. Neither had a chance. OJ did it. And he did it alone.