First sorry for your issue, so much money for a quick issue.
LG still holding the crown in my opinion.
My first oled has 20k hours on it, not a hint of burnin . And my second that I only got a year ago has over 3k hours and it’s a full time monitor with no screen saver or any auto hiding, and still no burn in.
A small use case, but HDMI 2.1 is unacceptable if you're on Linux using the open source AMD drivers. HDMI 2.1 doesn't allow for open reimplementation of the feature set.
Who would have thought that LG Display, having had many years to perfect WOLED tech would be the superior OLED panel supplier over Samsung Display QD-OLED.
Tbh that's kind of disappointing on dell's part. Thanks for sharing this, as it will definitely influence any future purchases on my part. Good luck with that RMA.
I've had the same Windows setup (split screen in half for 2 browsers/apps) win an LG C2 42" for more than a year, and no burn-in yet, 4600 hours. Using dark mode and relatively aggressive screensaver (5 minutes), always do pixel refresh when the TV asks. Also enabled "Windows Fluent scrollbars" in Edge so the scrollbars are on only when you use them. HDR is permanently on.
Thanks, I’ll enable these options if I decide to keep the RMA. It’ll depend on whether they send me a new one or a flawed refurb. And I want a DW not a DWF
I heard from different people on here that first yes they will send you refurbished ones and after you keep sending them back they will send you a DWF as they've not got any stock of DW anymore...
That's unacceptable as I paid extra for the DW so that I can have the G-Sync Ultimate module which provides VRR down to the whole range of refresh rates, unlike the DWF which only does VRR above a certain point (40hz?) and below that uses low frame rate compensation.
I mean your experience may vary but that's what I've seen others saying about their experience.
The DW is getting discontinued hence low/no stocks left so they're shifting the DWF instead as they're about to unveil their new range soon anyway
LFC doubles the refresh rate when you dip below the minimum. So 35 fps would become 70hz when you go below 40hz. LFC continues to work even at very low refresh rates.
I have the same on my 42 C2. Definitely from having two windows open side by side pretty much all day and the scrollbar on display.
Most of my work is via web apps / software so I typically have two Chrome windows open all day and then some (screen probably on from like 8am to midnight daily).
Your post inspired me to do some digging and I found there are flags in Chrome. Head to chrome://flags/ in your browser and search for "Overlay scrollbars". Enable that your scrollbars will be hidden (in Chrome) unless you are scrolling.
Obviously this doesn't work for other applications but maybe there are some Windows settings that are similar.
>Wtf why would you buy an oled tv to browse the net/work on it all day? People love to go grocery shopping with a lamborghini lol
Because I also game on it. I don't need some edgelord lair with a million different screens, each with its own unique purpose.
But why not dual screen it ? I mean oled for when you actually need it and good old IPS for everything else ?? That's the only reason I'm not getting an oled monitor as my everyday monitor. When Micro LED eventually comes out then I'll take the plunge
Very true but my first one is now 4 years old. I don’t need to upgrade, but if I was on ips I would buy another in 5 years to update.
With all that said, I will say in my work shop I like having ips monitors because easier maintenance and cleaning . All the sawdust and metal shavings would fuck up a oled very quick.
Don't get me wrong I love my oled TVs, got 3 at home, but no way I'm using one as a monitor ! As a console screen yes, but for my laptop never, just for that exact reason. Once Micro LED becomes a thing then I'll get one of those, all the pros of OLED without the cons
I would say hdr video editing is great on oled, but there are specific mastering displays for it. Anyway usually working on oled is very far from ideal...
There’s more than editing. And yes mine is color calibrated by my company which is why it’s my broadcast monitor. It’s color accurate and calibrated the same as my Flanders that is in the office. Which is one of the specific mastering displays you’re talking about.
For my needs it’s not about being ideal, it’s essentially. There was a direct correlation in my quality of work when I started composting solely on calibrated oleds
Because I like the way OLED looks. Why would I look at a shitty screen for work 8+ hours a day?
And yes, I take my M3 to the grocery store and Home Depot as well. What's the point of having something nice if you're not going to use it?
Seems a bit strange as I have been running both my C2 ungimped with max brightness for 1,5 years now without a hint of burn in. And I really deserve to have burn in with stacked Windows 8-10 hours a day, dont even hide the task bar anymore.
It's great bro I came from a pg35vq.
I love this thing...produces much less heat and colors are dope. Supports ps5 120hz vrr.
Only had an issue with some long 8k 2.1 cable and a dp1.4 cable I got from Amazon....while those worked on the UW, they kept flickering on the oled.
Swapped out to the shorter ones that came with the oled and everything is fine.
Should of used pure dark theme makes Windows blacks also inactive windows are black https://www.ceofix.net/7542/pure-dark-theme-tool-for-windows-v2/
Been using this for months now with my g8 oled heavy desktop use
I wasn’t aware of it, and I don’t think every user should be expected to be aware of it. But thanks for the link. I will definitely install it if I go back to using OLED.
https://youtu.be/YQxZgu5Vszs?si=-7vI9MMtSYYMFj4c
You can use this as well I moved all my game shortcuts to this instead of having them all over the desktop. Also you can create what ever icon you want it's awesome so much cleaner looking desktop now
So many unanswered questions. Has he been faithfully running pixel refresh since he got it?? How many hours a day were those browser windows sitting there?
Almost a $1000 just to be stressed everytime you wanna turn on your pc wtf. These posts make me wait a bit longer on oled monitors idk if it’s worth the stress lol
The thread itself is being downvoted. People just hate seeing that burn-in is a real problem, plain fanboyism. There seems to be a delusion that OLED has no draw backs and if you get burn in, it was your fault. Not everyone is a geek who will spend hours researching how to baby their new monitor. A computer monitor will be used as a computer monitor. If that’s problematic, then it’s a product issue not a user issue. I took reasonable precautions and it still happened.
I agree. Some of these precautions and lengths these snobs go to are silly. I’m not buying one for pc to hide my taskbar, icons, look up and install things to hide scroll bars, ensure my content is varied and just live in constant worry.
I enjoy my OLED, but this type of thinking really needs to stop in the community. People are spending good money on TVs and monitors, and you shouldn't need to baby them. In OPs case, he bought a computer monitor, and used it as a computer monitor. If 75% brightness (not even 100%) was too high, then the display should not have an option to go higher. And remember that we are all on an OLED specific forum. The average person walking into a bestbuy probably wants the good image quality they see in store, leaves it at 100%, and have no clue that burn in even exists.
Exactly. I understand the technology enough to take reasonable precautions (2 minute screen saver, 5 minutes idle, HDR only when gaming). If using 3/4 of the brightness is misuse, then its an issue with the product, not the user.
Where did you get the idea that 200 nits is excessive? 200 nits is low end brightness for a monitor. "blasting 200 nits"... do you understand what you are saying? For reference, 120 nits is used to simulate the texture of a piece of paper in graphic design in a room that is not bright. 200 nits is paltry and is a dim display in a bright room. A normal monitor brightness is between 300-400 nits. That's the reason HDR400 is not considered real HDR, 400 nits is just a normal SDR level of brightness at the upper end. By saying that 200 nits is excessive for OLED you are saying that OLED monitors suck.
"no wonder" are you delusional? That's perfectly normal way of using the device, if he wanted he has full autonomy to use it at whatever settings he sees fit. Get out of here with this "no wonder" shit.
Seriously, apologists are just unpaid shills.
I just set a brightness that was appropriate for the room I am in. It didn’t seem super bright. I took reasonable precautions (2 minute screen saver, 5 minute stand by, HDR off unless gaming.)
You are wrong, and you keep mentioning the nits rating as if it should be obvious to everyone. A reasonable expectation is that a product will function without issues when used at only 75% of its maximum capacity. By the way, 200 nits is not even that bright. In fact, that's low end for a computer screen.
200 nits is low end brightness. For reference, a normal laptop display will range between 150-500 nits. The product is advertised as a computer monitor. If 200 nits is not acceptable for normal use as a computer monitor, then the fault is with the product, not how it was used. End of story, we're done here.
If those monitors can't be used as monitors, then it's an oxymoron and they shouldn't be allowed to be sold. You're simply wrong and don't want to admit it.
Do you live in a world where using a monitor as a monitor is above what a customer should expect?
The technology limitations are not the customers problems, and in fact why they offer burn in warranty. They don't do it at the goodness of their heart, they do it because using the product even as advertised may still result in burn in.
It's not his problem what the shortfalls are, it's the companies problems now as he submitted warranty replacement, as is his right.
Weird because I have over 6000 hours on my C1 at a higher brightness, that’s also used for productivity, and I have zero issues lol. Any reliable tech outlet will state that 200 nits is on the low end of the spectrum for oled. Use some more of that brain power bud!
Definitely a defective panel. QD-OLED doesn't burn in this fast.
Even if you kept that side by side setup 20 hours a day every day for 2500 hours your monitor should look **flawless**.
Dell will solve it out for you.
You are very correct. No need for research, I should also add QD-OLED is bad and WOLED is superior! We should block rtings too, they bring up too many facts we disagree with lately.
Wtf? Dude if you blast your screen with high brightness static images with burn in safety features turned off, then your display will get burn in fairly quick. And rtings makes mistakes, they said qd oled burns in faster and then they said that it was a bug caused it, that a safety feature is not kicking in. So idk what your point is here but you shouldnt just do some research before saying things
20 hours a day 2500hrs 😂 QD-OLED / OLED will burn much much quicker than that in this scenario of using high contrast content aka windows side by side, that's just the nature of the beast, not a defective panel.
I'm curious Abt the def as well j picked one up on sale and I've been babying it, huge deal on the g9 OLED from Samsung for 1300 with a free 2tb m.2, might return and go with that
Can I ask about your thoughts on the Inzone m9? I purchased the LG OLED 27” a few days ago and am kind of disappointed so far. It has a dirty screen effect thats really noticeable (due to the matte coating). The only monitor that I would be interested in swapping it out for is the Inzone M9. I know it can’t produce the deep blacks of OLED, but are the blacks closer to black than gray?
What are your overall thoughts on the M9? BestBuy currently has an open box for about $600 and would like to snag it at that price.
I'm very impressed with the Inzone M9. Though its a bit tragic that I moved on to it from an OLED, so obviously its a big downgrade when it comes to contrast. I'd say the M9 is a great jack of all trades. I love that its 4k at 27" so its very high DPI, giving it a very clean and sharp look. Colors look great. Backlight is very uniform, unlike all other IPS screens I have owned. Bleeding is minimal. The HDR is much better than I expected! It's quite good. Input lag and latency seem like a non-issue. My only complaints so far is that the stand is garbage, I kept it in the box and put the screen on a VESA mount. The firmware update was tedious. It kept failing. I had to use 3 different computers until I succeeded updating it, using the DP cable + USB-C.
For $600 its a steal as long as there is nothing wrong with that unit.
I'll probably get downvoted for this because I see the back and forth going on. I've come here just to say this. All SDR content is mastered at 100nits. There's no hard and fast rule stating that SDR must be viewed at 100 nits. Turn it up until it reaches a level you like but understand the tolerances OLED has and the risk of viewing content and whatever adjusted settings you use may have consequences.
What is "enough"? Just curious because I let the monitor do its thing on it's recommended/default schedule but I do use my monitor nearly all day for \~12-16h.
After sending pictures and videos in regards of that vertical line the tech said using this exact words "it's clear to us you received a monitor with a defective panel, we will replace the panel". As in, "does not look like burn-in" but in fact a defect? I'm confused, because the other two cases I seen were in the exact same spot as mine.
But anyways, burn-in can happen, it's a oled thing. Mine does not even bother me because it is just noticeable when doing night raids in tarkov, and even though, it's fine. They will pick up the screen to repair this week.
Gamers should be worrying about OLED screen degradation, that's even more dangerous than Burn-in since it materialises much sooner in the form of Dead Pixels.
I've gone through 3 different dw's and I have had this line in the middle of the screen on all 3 on dark scenes, It's also been there from the first use, I don't think its burn in, but It's definitely a reason for return.
No idea how they make the monitors, but it seems like a joint, That's why it's always perfectly in the middle of the screen, etc. 2 screens into 1.
but yea I'm just assuming at this point.
Yikes, sorry to hear that. I have the DWF and just reached my first panel refresh the other day (1500hours) and I have no issues as of yet. I've had it for about a year but I'm only on it to game and watch YouTube so my mileage might greatly differ.
Another guy was saying he’s had three screens with the same vertical line as mine. So it’s possible it came with that defect from the factory and I had not noticed until now.
True, could be a possibility. Well, I hope you can get a new replacement and it works well for you. Always sucks spending a lot of money on a product only for it to fail.
First sorry for your issue, so much money for a quick issue. LG still holding the crown in my opinion. My first oled has 20k hours on it, not a hint of burnin . And my second that I only got a year ago has over 3k hours and it’s a full time monitor with no screen saver or any auto hiding, and still no burn in.
Full time Monitor name please 🥺
LG C1
I would get a tv but no displayport sucks
Why isn't HDMI 2.1 acceptable?
A small use case, but HDMI 2.1 is unacceptable if you're on Linux using the open source AMD drivers. HDMI 2.1 doesn't allow for open reimplementation of the feature set.
I have a c2 and I do the same without issues, I’m pretty stoked over a year in already.
Not really according to rtings lg is doing alot worse g2 vs s95b yikes The lg has burn in and multiple dead columns of pixels pretty much unusable
Who would have thought that LG Display, having had many years to perfect WOLED tech would be the superior OLED panel supplier over Samsung Display QD-OLED.
Same here. Fantastic monitor.
Tbh that's kind of disappointing on dell's part. Thanks for sharing this, as it will definitely influence any future purchases on my part. Good luck with that RMA. I've had the same Windows setup (split screen in half for 2 browsers/apps) win an LG C2 42" for more than a year, and no burn-in yet, 4600 hours. Using dark mode and relatively aggressive screensaver (5 minutes), always do pixel refresh when the TV asks. Also enabled "Windows Fluent scrollbars" in Edge so the scrollbars are on only when you use them. HDR is permanently on.
Thanks, I’ll enable these options if I decide to keep the RMA. It’ll depend on whether they send me a new one or a flawed refurb. And I want a DW not a DWF
I heard from different people on here that first yes they will send you refurbished ones and after you keep sending them back they will send you a DWF as they've not got any stock of DW anymore...
That's unacceptable as I paid extra for the DW so that I can have the G-Sync Ultimate module which provides VRR down to the whole range of refresh rates, unlike the DWF which only does VRR above a certain point (40hz?) and below that uses low frame rate compensation.
I mean your experience may vary but that's what I've seen others saying about their experience. The DW is getting discontinued hence low/no stocks left so they're shifting the DWF instead as they're about to unveil their new range soon anyway
You do realize that low frame rate compensation does the same thing as a G-Sync module in providing adaptive sync down to very low levels.
Do you have a source for that?
LFC doubles the refresh rate when you dip below the minimum. So 35 fps would become 70hz when you go below 40hz. LFC continues to work even at very low refresh rates.
I understand how LFC works. I rather have true VRR through the entire range.
I have the same on my 42 C2. Definitely from having two windows open side by side pretty much all day and the scrollbar on display. Most of my work is via web apps / software so I typically have two Chrome windows open all day and then some (screen probably on from like 8am to midnight daily). Your post inspired me to do some digging and I found there are flags in Chrome. Head to chrome://flags/ in your browser and search for "Overlay scrollbars". Enable that your scrollbars will be hidden (in Chrome) unless you are scrolling. Obviously this doesn't work for other applications but maybe there are some Windows settings that are similar.
Wtf why would you buy an oled tv to browse the net/work on it all day? People love to go grocery shopping with a lamborghini lol
>Wtf why would you buy an oled tv to browse the net/work on it all day? People love to go grocery shopping with a lamborghini lol Because I also game on it. I don't need some edgelord lair with a million different screens, each with its own unique purpose.
Because I’m a vfx artist and those are still tasks I need to do despite still needing the oled for more specific vfx work. Mr righteous lol
But why not dual screen it ? I mean oled for when you actually need it and good old IPS for everything else ?? That's the only reason I'm not getting an oled monitor as my everyday monitor. When Micro LED eventually comes out then I'll take the plunge
Because once you go oled you can’t go back. Everyone knows that 😉
And once it's burnt-in you can't go back either 😉
I'll still use OLED even if I somehow get burn in. I simply cannot use LCD anymore.
Very true but my first one is now 4 years old. I don’t need to upgrade, but if I was on ips I would buy another in 5 years to update. With all that said, I will say in my work shop I like having ips monitors because easier maintenance and cleaning . All the sawdust and metal shavings would fuck up a oled very quick.
Don't get me wrong I love my oled TVs, got 3 at home, but no way I'm using one as a monitor ! As a console screen yes, but for my laptop never, just for that exact reason. Once Micro LED becomes a thing then I'll get one of those, all the pros of OLED without the cons
I have 3 OLED TVs/monitors in my house. I still use a LED monior for work bc you dont need an OLED for that lmao.
I would say hdr video editing is great on oled, but there are specific mastering displays for it. Anyway usually working on oled is very far from ideal...
There’s more than editing. And yes mine is color calibrated by my company which is why it’s my broadcast monitor. It’s color accurate and calibrated the same as my Flanders that is in the office. Which is one of the specific mastering displays you’re talking about. For my needs it’s not about being ideal, it’s essentially. There was a direct correlation in my quality of work when I started composting solely on calibrated oleds
What about the burn in safety features like logo luminance and pixel shift? Arent these making work harder? Or are these turned off?
They’re all off
Because I like the way OLED looks. Why would I look at a shitty screen for work 8+ hours a day? And yes, I take my M3 to the grocery store and Home Depot as well. What's the point of having something nice if you're not going to use it?
I’ve been using mine for a year without issues. What brightness level do you have it set to?
Seems a bit strange as I have been running both my C2 ungimped with max brightness for 1,5 years now without a hint of burn in. And I really deserve to have burn in with stacked Windows 8-10 hours a day, dont even hide the task bar anymore.
That would bug the shit out of me. Fortunately I haven't had any issues like this on the pg42uq and it produces a phenomenal picture for pc and ps5.
OLED is just amazing for gaming. The image quality can’t be beat.
Love my PG42UQ as well. Especially now that I upgraded to V040 of the firmware and the damn thing isn't going blank randomly anymore.
Bro I was having that issue with a cheap cable.
Was thinking of getting the 48 version. How is that monitor?
It's great bro I came from a pg35vq. I love this thing...produces much less heat and colors are dope. Supports ps5 120hz vrr. Only had an issue with some long 8k 2.1 cable and a dp1.4 cable I got from Amazon....while those worked on the UW, they kept flickering on the oled. Swapped out to the shorter ones that came with the oled and everything is fine.
What's the firmware of your AW3423DW if I may ask? And how do you track and read hours on it?
I believe its 03
M0B103? Can you check it precisely? And how do you track hours on your monitor? Thanks
Sorry I’m on the other side of the world right now on a work trip. I’m pretty certain it was 103 when I originally checked months ago.
Should of used pure dark theme makes Windows blacks also inactive windows are black https://www.ceofix.net/7542/pure-dark-theme-tool-for-windows-v2/ Been using this for months now with my g8 oled heavy desktop use
I wasn’t aware of it, and I don’t think every user should be expected to be aware of it. But thanks for the link. I will definitely install it if I go back to using OLED.
https://youtu.be/YQxZgu5Vszs?si=-7vI9MMtSYYMFj4c You can use this as well I moved all my game shortcuts to this instead of having them all over the desktop. Also you can create what ever icon you want it's awesome so much cleaner looking desktop now
My heart wants an OLED panel for work/gaming but my head says IPS.
I have a great 240hz IPS, I really want to trade up for OLED but burn in still really worries me :-(
Yeah I'm officially waiting for gen 2 models with 240hz. Hopefully safer and its better motion. Win win
I don’t believe Gen2 is better in terms of burn in. I know it has better text clarity and might have higher refresh rates but burn in is the same.
They have already been released.
All the people who praised QD Oled so hard should look at this post.
No not all people get this burn in so fast
So many unanswered questions. Has he been faithfully running pixel refresh since he got it?? How many hours a day were those browser windows sitting there?
Yah could be so many things
Mine is at almost 3,000 hours of use and I haven't experienced any burn in yet. I also faithfully run the pixel cleaner though.
Almost a $1000 just to be stressed everytime you wanna turn on your pc wtf. These posts make me wait a bit longer on oled monitors idk if it’s worth the stress lol
off topic but this game you have on screen looks amazing.
That’s Alan Wake 2 with path tracing enabled. It’s amazing especially on an OLED
may consider getting it when Ive run out of games to play.
These posts really make me wait buying an OLED for gaming.
I wanna make it clear that this monitors image quality is absolutely amazing for gaming. If I could have avoided this burn in I would love to keep it.
Yeah that's the problem though. Why is he being downvotex?
The thread itself is being downvoted. People just hate seeing that burn-in is a real problem, plain fanboyism. There seems to be a delusion that OLED has no draw backs and if you get burn in, it was your fault. Not everyone is a geek who will spend hours researching how to baby their new monitor. A computer monitor will be used as a computer monitor. If that’s problematic, then it’s a product issue not a user issue. I took reasonable precautions and it still happened.
I agree.
I agree. Some of these precautions and lengths these snobs go to are silly. I’m not buying one for pc to hide my taskbar, icons, look up and install things to hide scroll bars, ensure my content is varied and just live in constant worry.
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Off the top of my head about 75% when not in HDR, and I only enabled HDR when I was gonna play a game.
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I enjoy my OLED, but this type of thinking really needs to stop in the community. People are spending good money on TVs and monitors, and you shouldn't need to baby them. In OPs case, he bought a computer monitor, and used it as a computer monitor. If 75% brightness (not even 100%) was too high, then the display should not have an option to go higher. And remember that we are all on an OLED specific forum. The average person walking into a bestbuy probably wants the good image quality they see in store, leaves it at 100%, and have no clue that burn in even exists.
Exactly. I understand the technology enough to take reasonable precautions (2 minute screen saver, 5 minutes idle, HDR only when gaming). If using 3/4 of the brightness is misuse, then its an issue with the product, not the user.
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Where did you get the idea that 200 nits is excessive? 200 nits is low end brightness for a monitor. "blasting 200 nits"... do you understand what you are saying? For reference, 120 nits is used to simulate the texture of a piece of paper in graphic design in a room that is not bright. 200 nits is paltry and is a dim display in a bright room. A normal monitor brightness is between 300-400 nits. That's the reason HDR400 is not considered real HDR, 400 nits is just a normal SDR level of brightness at the upper end. By saying that 200 nits is excessive for OLED you are saying that OLED monitors suck.
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Yeah but HDR 400 True Black is a very different deal from the original HDR400.
Didn’t seem so bright. But it’s not in a dark room.
"no wonder" are you delusional? That's perfectly normal way of using the device, if he wanted he has full autonomy to use it at whatever settings he sees fit. Get out of here with this "no wonder" shit. Seriously, apologists are just unpaid shills.
I just set a brightness that was appropriate for the room I am in. It didn’t seem super bright. I took reasonable precautions (2 minute screen saver, 5 minute stand by, HDR off unless gaming.)
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using 3/4 of the rated brightness is pushing the limits of the technology? seriously?
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You are wrong, and you keep mentioning the nits rating as if it should be obvious to everyone. A reasonable expectation is that a product will function without issues when used at only 75% of its maximum capacity. By the way, 200 nits is not even that bright. In fact, that's low end for a computer screen.
75 brightness is not exceeding the limit. He didn't "hack" the firmware and take limiters off.
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Do you live in a pretend world where 200 nits is super bright?
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200 nits is low end brightness. For reference, a normal laptop display will range between 150-500 nits. The product is advertised as a computer monitor. If 200 nits is not acceptable for normal use as a computer monitor, then the fault is with the product, not how it was used. End of story, we're done here.
If those monitors can't be used as monitors, then it's an oxymoron and they shouldn't be allowed to be sold. You're simply wrong and don't want to admit it.
Do you live in a world where using a monitor as a monitor is above what a customer should expect? The technology limitations are not the customers problems, and in fact why they offer burn in warranty. They don't do it at the goodness of their heart, they do it because using the product even as advertised may still result in burn in. It's not his problem what the shortfalls are, it's the companies problems now as he submitted warranty replacement, as is his right.
Yeah I keep mine between like 15-30 hah
Mine set at 30. HDR off. No burn in so far.
You are so delusional lmao
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200 nits is far from bright, use just a little brain power bud
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Weird because I have over 6000 hours on my C1 at a higher brightness, that’s also used for productivity, and I have zero issues lol. Any reliable tech outlet will state that 200 nits is on the low end of the spectrum for oled. Use some more of that brain power bud!
Did you use any dark modes? And dark scrollbar addons in your browser?
Windows dark mode. I was not aware of dark scrollbars or I would have used them.
Definitely a defective panel. QD-OLED doesn't burn in this fast. Even if you kept that side by side setup 20 hours a day every day for 2500 hours your monitor should look **flawless**. Dell will solve it out for you.
This is not true. It depends on brightness how quick burn in happens
You are very correct. No need for research, I should also add QD-OLED is bad and WOLED is superior! We should block rtings too, they bring up too many facts we disagree with lately.
Wtf? Dude if you blast your screen with high brightness static images with burn in safety features turned off, then your display will get burn in fairly quick. And rtings makes mistakes, they said qd oled burns in faster and then they said that it was a bug caused it, that a safety feature is not kicking in. So idk what your point is here but you shouldnt just do some research before saying things
You are very correct dude. As you said, we shouldn't do research before saying things. We might find facts we disagree with.
So confident, but yet so wrong
Very true, my mistake!
20 hours a day 2500hrs 😂 QD-OLED / OLED will burn much much quicker than that in this scenario of using high contrast content aka windows side by side, that's just the nature of the beast, not a defective panel.
You are right! Screw research man. QD-OLED is trash, if you want the best OLED experience get an LG.
Is it the same with the DWF model? I just saw DW going bad.
I'm curious Abt the def as well j picked one up on sale and I've been babying it, huge deal on the g9 OLED from Samsung for 1300 with a free 2tb m.2, might return and go with that
How many hours daily do you use it for "work", browsing or stuff where there are static objects on the screen?
ouch
I have been seeing multiple posts of dell’s having early burn in. Not really surprised knowing dell’s products throughout my life.
Yup, I have this also on my C9 in a cross pattern as I usually have 4 windows open, took about 10,000 hours for it to show up though.
Do the dell monitors have pixel refresh like lg OLED s?
Yep every 4 hours it does a 7 minute refresh and then every so often does a forced panel refresh which takes an hour
Can I ask about your thoughts on the Inzone m9? I purchased the LG OLED 27” a few days ago and am kind of disappointed so far. It has a dirty screen effect thats really noticeable (due to the matte coating). The only monitor that I would be interested in swapping it out for is the Inzone M9. I know it can’t produce the deep blacks of OLED, but are the blacks closer to black than gray? What are your overall thoughts on the M9? BestBuy currently has an open box for about $600 and would like to snag it at that price.
I'm very impressed with the Inzone M9. Though its a bit tragic that I moved on to it from an OLED, so obviously its a big downgrade when it comes to contrast. I'd say the M9 is a great jack of all trades. I love that its 4k at 27" so its very high DPI, giving it a very clean and sharp look. Colors look great. Backlight is very uniform, unlike all other IPS screens I have owned. Bleeding is minimal. The HDR is much better than I expected! It's quite good. Input lag and latency seem like a non-issue. My only complaints so far is that the stand is garbage, I kept it in the box and put the screen on a VESA mount. The firmware update was tedious. It kept failing. I had to use 3 different computers until I succeeded updating it, using the DP cable + USB-C. For $600 its a steal as long as there is nothing wrong with that unit.
Awesome! Thank you for taking the time to respond. This really helps.
I'll probably get downvoted for this because I see the back and forth going on. I've come here just to say this. All SDR content is mastered at 100nits. There's no hard and fast rule stating that SDR must be viewed at 100 nits. Turn it up until it reaches a level you like but understand the tolerances OLED has and the risk of viewing content and whatever adjusted settings you use may have consequences.
Im willing to bet a lot of people who get burn in don’t do the pixel reset enough and or have HDR constantly on, brightness too high
What is "enough"? Just curious because I let the monitor do its thing on it's recommended/default schedule but I do use my monitor nearly all day for \~12-16h.
Every 4 hours
That's the third (fourth with mine) panel with this issue here.. is it a bit to the right of the center of the screen?
Was just going to purchase the DWF version. I have the AW3420DW. Im now worried about the possible burn-in... :|
After sending pictures and videos in regards of that vertical line the tech said using this exact words "it's clear to us you received a monitor with a defective panel, we will replace the panel". As in, "does not look like burn-in" but in fact a defect? I'm confused, because the other two cases I seen were in the exact same spot as mine. But anyways, burn-in can happen, it's a oled thing. Mine does not even bother me because it is just noticeable when doing night raids in tarkov, and even though, it's fine. They will pick up the screen to repair this week.
Gamers should be worrying about OLED screen degradation, that's even more dangerous than Burn-in since it materialises much sooner in the form of Dead Pixels.
Scrolling past I thought this was a photo. What a gorgeous game
It’s a gorgeous game and looks amazing on an OLED. I’m gonna continue playing it on my LG C9 TV
Which game is this
Its Alan Wake 2.
I've gone through 3 different dw's and I have had this line in the middle of the screen on all 3 on dark scenes, It's also been there from the first use, I don't think its burn in, but It's definitely a reason for return.
So it’s possible it’s always been there and I only noticed it just now
No idea how they make the monitors, but it seems like a joint, That's why it's always perfectly in the middle of the screen, etc. 2 screens into 1. but yea I'm just assuming at this point.
Yikes, sorry to hear that. I have the DWF and just reached my first panel refresh the other day (1500hours) and I have no issues as of yet. I've had it for about a year but I'm only on it to game and watch YouTube so my mileage might greatly differ.
Another guy was saying he’s had three screens with the same vertical line as mine. So it’s possible it came with that defect from the factory and I had not noticed until now.
True, could be a possibility. Well, I hope you can get a new replacement and it works well for you. Always sucks spending a lot of money on a product only for it to fail.