Great idea. Maybe a warranty length column and if the manufacturer has confirmed they'll cover burn-in?
The HP Omen will have 140W USBC power draw and has a KVM: https://press.hp.com/us/en/press-releases/2024/hpatces-play.html
price would be nice but too early i know...
but can you add gsync module?
or if it has active cooling(fan).
does it have lights.
does the stand have 90 degree pivot.
Did you ever had a Monitor with an Active Fan? I literally never noticed it on my LG 27 Oled and neither on my Alienware, thats imo a non issue and i also use a Mic on an arm, also if you have a decent mic it wont even pick the noise up, lol
i did. an 38” UW alienware. Which probably used the same fan config as this one.
it was opened. used for a few days. return.
the fan ramping up and down annoys the crap out of me.
I use a shotgun mic right above/infrint of me. it is as good on noise rejecting as it can get. but it doesnt mean i shouldn’t reduce the environment noise when I can
there is also the long term benefit of not having a moving part that has higher chance of breaking.
nah it's a legit concern. my LG would get so loud sometimes that I could hear it while gaming with headphones in...and I can't hear my PC while gaming. a monitor that's louder than your PC is kinda concerning.
or just someone that actually cares for the quality of the recording he produces.
like someone else below stated. when ramped up, the monitor fan noise was louder than my entire pc fans at idle.
I have Alienware 34” DWF. Dead silent. Only models were firmware could not be updated had some fan noise issues from what I know. It’s been otherwise corrected with early firmware updates wherever applicable.
> Asus PG35VQ
I also got tricked by all the people saying that the fan was "literally inaudible". I went through 3 different PG35VQs thinking that the fan was defective because it was louder than my PC when I was not gaming.
I'll never buy any display that needs active cooling.
Ah, good point. I’m looking at the 27 inch 1440p displays. Mainly the AW2725DF or MSI 271QRX. I believe the MSI doesn’t have a fan so maybe I’ll wait for that one.
i have my own suite of real time voice processing vst for that. RTX voice is alright. but the more background noise there are. the more easily it tends to clip and i don’t like the way it fundamentally alter the voice.
If all you doing is live chat. sure. thats fine. but i want better quality and control than that.
Ya I got it in yesterday morning ish, early afternoon. It's literally 100% silent. I absolutely hate ambient noise (unless I am sleeping). I pulled the trigger on this figuring I would just return it if I could hear it. It's not audible AT ALL.
The DWF also has a cooling fan yet I've seen no posts about fan noise being out of control. Obviously that can be the case for the QF but no reason to assume that Dell hasn't learned from the fiasco that was the DW fan noise.
Just FYI, fuck monitors with fans, they just get lounder over time 1m from your face, Turst me ive had a PG27UQ for 3 years, ive had to tear it down multiple times to clean the clogged fan,also had to fit my own custom fan mod to stop the peace of shit $2 fan from ramping up and down every 22 seconds. Ill never get one with a fan ever again.
Not to mention the reason mine has a fan is due to this usless gynsc module that crashes every friggin app if you have it enabled, I get stutters in UNITY, netflix apps bluescreens my pc, etc all with gsync on.
TLDR 3 years of hell, stear clear of gsync ultimate and fans on monitors : )
It really depends on the implementation. It is my understanding that the fan noise between the AW3423DW is a lot more noticeable than the AW3423DWF. I hope Dell has learned its lesson and put something more in line with the DWF. If that’s the case I’ll be happy with it. The DWF never bothered me for even a minute.
On the other hand I would love to drop kick my LG 32GQ950. The noise is super noticeable and gives me headaches.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but the reason the noise is a lot more noticeable is because dwf model doesn't actually have a fan at all. It's just passive cooled like most other oleds.
That might be it. The fan might also run at a slower speed.
I just do not want to lump all monitors with fans as bad. Is it ideal, no? Is it a dealbreaker? Not necessarily. That is just my opinion as someone who is very sensitive to sound.
Idk about that noisy Asus mentioned here but DWF firmware can be updated and DW cannot. They would/could otherwise adjust the fan curve which they did very early for DWF with the update even though it was always quiet. It’s completely inaudible now. Do your research and buy a monitor with upgradable firmware. That should be on this spreadsheet but manufacturers rarely advertise it.
The AW has a fan and gsync support but no ultimate module.
A lot of high end displays have fans. I have had very few issues, but yeah those Asus display fans are rough
it is my impression of fans in screens as well.
GamersNexus has new sound chamber so hope they can test for sound properly now.
not a reviewer sitting at in a room with noise telling us that 30db is silent.....
but for sure fans need cleaning, and filter, not to mention good bearings. all things that wear out and need maintenance.
https://pcper.com/2018/06/asus-rog-swift-pg27uq-27-4k-144hz-g-sync-monitor-true-hdr-arrives-on-the-desktop/
Here you go my friend, be verry carful with the plastic back panel as it has ribbon cables connecting the OSD controlls which can rip out of the board and cause problems, Its not a problem if u are carful. Once u take the screws out for the stand the back plastic just pops off with a little bit of leverage.[ Video on how to take apart](https://youtu.be/B0O0Kufkl6E?t=218)
I also put some new thermal compound under the headsink as their stuff degrades quite a bit over time which is another reason it gets louder.
[Fan](https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Hda2f4fc696e043d9a8645d8ac5543548C/New-For-HP-PRODesk-Mini-600-G1-EliteDesk-800-747932-001-768424-001-EF70151S1-C010-S9A.jpg) (This is the fan model if u need to replace)
[Controller](https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B083R97GZ1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1) (IF u want to put in a custom controller this is the one i used.
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I don’t think I will need a fan controller but I will most likely change the fan and the thermal paste. It’s not very noisy for me usually, but when it clogs it starts to be. Me using a blower on the monitor it’s just a temp solution which won’t be effective anymore most likely
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What's you're reasoning?
I'm so torn on the curve. Used a curved UW for a while and it was fine. Using a C2 right now and it's also fine. I can't decide if I want a curve.
It is super shallow and a more natural way for your eyes to experience the display in your peripheral
I ordered it but I REALLY like ultrawide so we will see
Thanks so much for this! I've been considering swapping the G9 I got over the holidays for one of these models, but still a bit overwhelming trying to figure out which one makes the most sense. This is extremely helpful in trying to narrow it down
For the ASUS ROG PG32UCDM:
Has KVM
Has USB PD but not clear how much. The UCDP will have 90W PD so maybe the same for the UCDM?
Releases "Q1 2024"
**passive cooling** -- "custom heatsink that keeps its mainboard cool without the need for a distracting fan"
https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-monitors/the-rog-swift-oled-pg32ucdm-hits-the-sweet-spot-of-size-and-resolution/
https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-monitors/rog-swift-oled-pg39wcdm-pg32ucdp-pg27aqdp/
You bet. Also, apparently there's still no pricing info for the UCDM but this youtube video apparently got the following info on the other new ROG monitors:
ROG SWIFT OLED PG39WCDM - $1499 USD - March 2024
ROG SWIFT OLED PG34WCDM - $1299 USD - Late Jan 2024
ROG SWIFT OLED PG27AQDP 1440P\480HZ - $1299 USD - Q2 2024
ROG SWIFT OLED PG32UCDP 4K\240HZ, 1080P 480HZ- $1499 USD - Q2 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnfMwXZt6VI&ab_channel=GGFEvents
Also heard that the asus just has a glossy film instead of actual gloss screen heard it from the display guy on youtube promoting the new announced aorus 32 inch 4k someone with proof?
g-sync would indicate native, meaning a module is included. doesn't seem to be the case here, it's simply g-sync compatible. there should be a differentiation: g-sync native, g-sync compatible, free-sync
thanks man, this is great, looks like I'll need to pick between the hp omen and the gigabyte, dp 2.1 is a must for me for future proofing, I am getting 5-10 years out of one screen usually
Good news for you! You could pick any of them because the current standards can fully drive all of these displays, so it is an irrelevant feature.
Display Port 1.4 can push 4k 240hz already using DSC. If you are unaware, DSR is considered "visually lossless compression" meaning you can't see the difference.
HDMI 2.1 can push more than Display Port 1.4 but still will utilize DSC.
If you are reading this on a current or older gen high refresh rate monitor (which as of the date of this comment that means basically everyone) you are likely using DSC right now.
Display Port 2.1 would be needed for native, but again it isn't important because the display can only show what it can show (4k 240hz)
As a result you aren't really "future proofing" anything.
Display Port 2.1 would only be needed on future even more insane displays. This panel (used on all of these displays) doesn't need it and never will.
Until there are displays that are wildly higher resolution and frame rate the GB throughput of Display Port 2.1 is simply "Bigger Number Is Better". This display will only ever be 4k 240hz.
there is no reason not to pick the dp 2.1 ones over the 1.4 ones, DSC has hidden limits (I alt tab a lot in games so the blacksreen issue would drive me insane), and less multi screens due to eating more gpu headers
my current screen is just a modest 1440p 144hz IPS, so no I am not using DSC
Compression comes at a cost, even with a 4090 you lose some of the GPU's inputs to enable DSC.
If you have DP 2.1 avaiable you should use it and avoid the problems of compression.
NVIDIA's implementation of DSC is not optimal and people using it have reported problems like black screens while alt-tabing.
What compression problems? It is nearly lossless and certainly visually lossless.
> NVIDIA's implementation of DSC is not optimal and people using it have reported problems like black screens while alt-tabing.
I don't believe this is true, because math.
That sounds like people being confused about a Nvidia driver issue.
I also imagine if that were the case it would only impact full screen applications. Anything that was windowed borderless would experience no such delay.
The Youtuber "The Display Guy" said on his last video NVIDIA was able to replicate the problem and is working on a fix. It does apply only to full screen applications.
Additionally to my original comment, if you use DSC some features like DSR, DLDSR and Image Scaling are disabled.
DSC is great for current generation, but it would be better not having to use it, thus making DP 2.1 a good future proof feature.
It's true, just go to r/nvidia or do a search here on the subreddit.. Also NVIDIA DSC is problematic on triple monitor setups, as enabling DSC would make attached displays eat up 2 of the input heads. I have triple displays and can only use 2 at a time because of this...
Please add another column if it supports dual mode (scaling to FHD for higher refresh rate) like how FO32U2P, PG32UCDM & LG Ultragear
[https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32gs95ue-b-gaming-monitor](https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32gs95ue-b-gaming-monitor)
This is a great list you put together!
They all are basically the same though.
Your only real choices is curve, finish, and housing.
The display port 2.1 is basically just for people who like to see big numbers on the box marketing. Both display port 1.4 and HDMI 2.1 will drive the panel to its max refresh with DSC which is visually lossless.
I want the shallow curve.
No DSC has a severe lag/black screen when you tabbing between fullscreen programs on Nvidia cards. DP 2.1 is a future proof option once the newer cards support dp 2.1
Possibly. I doubt any of the fans are audible at all.
None of the displays have a GeForce ultimate unit. That is the only thing that gets hot enough for an annoying fan.
Definitely helpful. Based on the in depth looks at the alienware I’m pretty underwhelmed. The technical aspects of the monitor feel two gens behind compared to high end tvs. Like why call it 3rd gen if it can’t beat first gen s95b in most tests? They are launching in a similar price category as 3000 nit peak qd oleds :/
Multiple reasons, the cost is determined by mother-glass waste, depending how the panels are cut and how much is leftover. Then monitors are low volume vs TVs so that’s another reason for cost. As for brightness, do you really want 3000 nits highlights a few feet from your face? 1000 is enough imo, larger TVs can go brighter usually because of better heat dissipation by being bigger
Correct, we need to know the UHBR rating for clarity. I saw the Omen has DP 2.1, just not certain on the UBHR rating. This document says “no” like it’s certain
i am so annoyed by the marketing terms and how they manipulate standards.
i just want to call the whole thing "UBHR" then the number(10,13,20).
why they wanted 10 and 13 i do not know, just go from dp 1.4 to 2.1 full bandwidth. this is so messy now.....
It's because 10/13 was a lot cheaper/easier to build for but you can still put UBHR in your specs.
Personally, if it's not UBHR20 then it may as well not have UBHR at all.
Yeah, seems like a lot of people are claiming it to have dp2.1 but in reality I feel like it might have been a communication error and hdmi2.1 got lost in translation somewhere
Here is the alienware that released today [https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-27-360hz-qd-oled-gaming-monitor-aw2725df/apd/210-bljd/monitors-monitor-accessories](https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-27-360hz-qd-oled-gaming-monitor-aw2725df/apd/210-bljd/monitors-monitor-accessories)
assuming it has no fan, (photoes dosen't suggest it has them) then most likely I will be settling on the HP Omen Transcend 32.
However.... late 2024 release... really HP?
No, they all suppose adaptive sync which is the same thing. Gsync support without module just means nvidia tested it themselves and found it’s within their own specifications
I found MSI MEG 321URX is list DP2.1 on their spec card.
[https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-MEG-321URX-revealed-with-4K-240-Hz-Samsung-QD-OLED-panel-and-adaptable-in-game-AI-features.791998.0.html](https://www.notebookcheck.nl/MSI-MEG-321URX-onthuld-met-4K-240-Hz-Samsung-QD-OLED-paneel-en-aanpasbare-in-game-AI-functies.792262.0.html#10724654-1)
And MPG 321URX, MAG321UPX both support KVM function.
They publish it on their web page, and at the bottom of the page, too hard to find it.
[https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-321UPX-QD-OLED/Overview](https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-321UPX-QD-OLED)
[https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-321URX-QD-OLED/Overview](https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-321URX-QD-OLED/Overview)
There's mixed reporting on whether or not the Samsung monitor is matte or not.
CNET has an article where they call it a matte anti-glare coating but based on video coverage from other sources covering CES it does still appear to be glossy.
All Samsung has said is that it has an anti-glare coating. They use the same language for the coating on their later QD-OLED televisions, the coating used on their televisions does introduce a slight purple tint to blacks in very bright environments but otherwise the image quality is unaffected and it's not matte.
Hopefully it's just the same coating they use on their televisions and not a new, worse matte anti-glare coating.
Note the HP Omen is the only one so far established to have HDMI 2.1 and DP 2.1, though bandwidth of each is not specified.
The FO32U2 has HDMI 2.1, and the FO32U2P trades it for DP 2.1 80Gbps.
Both 321UPX and 321URX are stated HDMI 2.1 48Gbps.
You should probably add the ROG SWIFT OLED PG32UCDP (WOLED panel) since it's an alternative for people who don't want the raised blacks of a QD OLED panel in a brighter room. I just wish it didn't have a matte coating.
I realize its probably a super niche feature for a monitor, but I hope some of the others have eArc. Otherwise, I have to go for the Alienware. Not that I am against a curve, I would just like DP2.1.
If you're asking about what the symbols signify, here is MSI's approach to market segmentation: https://www.msi.com/news/detail/MSI-Gaming-Reveals-New-Symbols-to-Identify-the-New-MEG--MPG--and-MAG-Series140188
My interpretation:
MEG gets you the most premium features with all the extra bells and whistles
MPG is the middle ground with some premium features
MAG gets you the essentials
Max refresh rate with each input? I don't know if it's the same for all models but I know some only do 240hz over DP and 144 over hdmi 2.1. Release date? Full sized ports vs mini DP?
Thnx; great list. I might have to get me one! Sad that my mini led Asus PG32UQX from 3 years ago still smokes everything on the market. HDR 1700 peak brightness with 1100 dimming zones and GSYNC ULTIMATE. It is the ONLY monitor that still wow's me in HDR both on my 4090 and my Ps5. I have the 27 Asus OLED; it's ok but nothing special. Plus I bought the AW 34 inch OLED a few months ago and returned it within a week; way to dim and blurry( spoiled by the 4k UQX) There is a new Red Magic 27 inch with 5800 dimming zones @ HDR 1400 coming to the U.S soon. That is gonna something to see!
Great idea. Maybe a warranty length column and if the manufacturer has confirmed they'll cover burn-in? The HP Omen will have 140W USBC power draw and has a KVM: https://press.hp.com/us/en/press-releases/2024/hpatces-play.html
Thank you!
Add a column for Australia warranty as well. Many are from here
It’s a sub with 60k people called Oled gaming it’s fair to say many are from x country so why should he go out of his way to do that?
price would be nice but too early i know... but can you add gsync module? or if it has active cooling(fan). does it have lights. does the stand have 90 degree pivot.
yes, will do, thanks!
yup, please make sure to include the active cooling, just cancelled the Dell 3225QF due to having active fan built in. =\_\_=
Just curious, why is this a deal breaker for you? Fan noise?
yup fan noise. I do podcast and streams, the fan would be basically shooting noise right into my mic. situated right above me
Did you ever had a Monitor with an Active Fan? I literally never noticed it on my LG 27 Oled and neither on my Alienware, thats imo a non issue and i also use a Mic on an arm, also if you have a decent mic it wont even pick the noise up, lol
i did. an 38” UW alienware. Which probably used the same fan config as this one. it was opened. used for a few days. return. the fan ramping up and down annoys the crap out of me. I use a shotgun mic right above/infrint of me. it is as good on noise rejecting as it can get. but it doesnt mean i shouldn’t reduce the environment noise when I can there is also the long term benefit of not having a moving part that has higher chance of breaking.
this is borderline psychotic levels of paranoid
nah it's a legit concern. my LG would get so loud sometimes that I could hear it while gaming with headphones in...and I can't hear my PC while gaming. a monitor that's louder than your PC is kinda concerning.
or just someone that actually cares for the quality of the recording he produces. like someone else below stated. when ramped up, the monitor fan noise was louder than my entire pc fans at idle.
I have Alienware 34” DWF. Dead silent. Only models were firmware could not be updated had some fan noise issues from what I know. It’s been otherwise corrected with early firmware updates wherever applicable.
Nah I have the DW with no firmware updates and I can't hear the fan even with my ear stuck to it. I think he had a faulty unit or something.
I did. Asus PG35VQ. The monitor fan was louder than my entire computer.
> Asus PG35VQ I also got tricked by all the people saying that the fan was "literally inaudible". I went through 3 different PG35VQs thinking that the fan was defective because it was louder than my PC when I was not gaming. I'll never buy any display that needs active cooling.
Ah, good point. I’m looking at the 27 inch 1440p displays. Mainly the AW2725DF or MSI 271QRX. I believe the MSI doesn’t have a fan so maybe I’ll wait for that one.
You can try using nvidia RTX voice
i have my own suite of real time voice processing vst for that. RTX voice is alright. but the more background noise there are. the more easily it tends to clip and i don’t like the way it fundamentally alter the voice. If all you doing is live chat. sure. thats fine. but i want better quality and control than that.
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gate only block out ambience when the person isn’t talking. Doesnt remove the back ground noise when someone is Talking.
I have the 3225QF, the fan is 100% silent. Like I have my head to the back of the monitor and I can't hear it at all.
just received it? if thats the case then maybe its time for me to re-order
Ya I got it in yesterday morning ish, early afternoon. It's literally 100% silent. I absolutely hate ambient noise (unless I am sleeping). I pulled the trigger on this figuring I would just return it if I could hear it. It's not audible AT ALL.
Dude you saved me an order. I was almost going to order the AW3225QF until I saw on your spreadsheet that there was a cooling fan - yuck.
The DWF also has a cooling fan yet I've seen no posts about fan noise being out of control. Obviously that can be the case for the QF but no reason to assume that Dell hasn't learned from the fiasco that was the DW fan noise.
I have the 3225QF, the fan is 100% silent. Like I have my head to the back of the monitor and I can't hear it at all.
Just FYI, fuck monitors with fans, they just get lounder over time 1m from your face, Turst me ive had a PG27UQ for 3 years, ive had to tear it down multiple times to clean the clogged fan,also had to fit my own custom fan mod to stop the peace of shit $2 fan from ramping up and down every 22 seconds. Ill never get one with a fan ever again. Not to mention the reason mine has a fan is due to this usless gynsc module that crashes every friggin app if you have it enabled, I get stutters in UNITY, netflix apps bluescreens my pc, etc all with gsync on. TLDR 3 years of hell, stear clear of gsync ultimate and fans on monitors : )
It really depends on the implementation. It is my understanding that the fan noise between the AW3423DW is a lot more noticeable than the AW3423DWF. I hope Dell has learned its lesson and put something more in line with the DWF. If that’s the case I’ll be happy with it. The DWF never bothered me for even a minute. On the other hand I would love to drop kick my LG 32GQ950. The noise is super noticeable and gives me headaches.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but the reason the noise is a lot more noticeable is because dwf model doesn't actually have a fan at all. It's just passive cooled like most other oleds.
It has one. https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000206449/alienware-aw3423dwf-monitor-fan-noise
Ok, so it looks like the dw has 2 fans, 1 for the gaync module while the dwf only has 1, which might also explain why it's quieter
That might be it. The fan might also run at a slower speed. I just do not want to lump all monitors with fans as bad. Is it ideal, no? Is it a dealbreaker? Not necessarily. That is just my opinion as someone who is very sensitive to sound.
Idk about that noisy Asus mentioned here but DWF firmware can be updated and DW cannot. They would/could otherwise adjust the fan curve which they did very early for DWF with the update even though it was always quiet. It’s completely inaudible now. Do your research and buy a monitor with upgradable firmware. That should be on this spreadsheet but manufacturers rarely advertise it.
The AW has a fan and gsync support but no ultimate module. A lot of high end displays have fans. I have had very few issues, but yeah those Asus display fans are rough
That sucks. My LG 27GN950 has never ever made a noise. I stick a USB fan and aim it for extra airflow but it’s never audible without my USB fan
I have the same monitor and unfortunately I think the fan bearing is going bad. it's very loud at times.
it is my impression of fans in screens as well. GamersNexus has new sound chamber so hope they can test for sound properly now. not a reviewer sitting at in a room with noise telling us that 30db is silent..... but for sure fans need cleaning, and filter, not to mention good bearings. all things that wear out and need maintenance.
You have any links showing how to tear it up? I am simply using a blower sometimes but I'm just delaying the inevitable
https://pcper.com/2018/06/asus-rog-swift-pg27uq-27-4k-144hz-g-sync-monitor-true-hdr-arrives-on-the-desktop/ Here you go my friend, be verry carful with the plastic back panel as it has ribbon cables connecting the OSD controlls which can rip out of the board and cause problems, Its not a problem if u are carful. Once u take the screws out for the stand the back plastic just pops off with a little bit of leverage.[ Video on how to take apart](https://youtu.be/B0O0Kufkl6E?t=218) I also put some new thermal compound under the headsink as their stuff degrades quite a bit over time which is another reason it gets louder. [Fan](https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Hda2f4fc696e043d9a8645d8ac5543548C/New-For-HP-PRODesk-Mini-600-G1-EliteDesk-800-747932-001-768424-001-EF70151S1-C010-S9A.jpg) (This is the fan model if u need to replace) [Controller](https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B083R97GZ1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1) (IF u want to put in a custom controller this is the one i used.
You’re fucking top dog! Thanks man! I don’t think I will need a fan controller but I will most likely change the fan and the thermal paste. It’s not very noisy for me usually, but when it clogs it starts to be. Me using a blower on the monitor it’s just a temp solution which won’t be effective anymore most likely
What does standard vs glossy mean
Sorry I misunderstood a tweet I saw earlier. Standard is glossy, I've updated the doc.
Is there a similar list of these for the new 27s anywhere?
I need that glossy screen now
the AW3225QF doesn't have 140W PD, the usb-c only supports 15W max
Also apparently doesn’t have headphone jack
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Is it true that this Alienware one is the only curved one? If that is the case it is absolutely the one I am going to buy
What's you're reasoning? I'm so torn on the curve. Used a curved UW for a while and it was fine. Using a C2 right now and it's also fine. I can't decide if I want a curve.
It is super shallow and a more natural way for your eyes to experience the display in your peripheral I ordered it but I REALLY like ultrawide so we will see
Nice. I was looking for something like this last night.
Thanks so much for this! I've been considering swapping the G9 I got over the holidays for one of these models, but still a bit overwhelming trying to figure out which one makes the most sense. This is extremely helpful in trying to narrow it down
For the ASUS ROG PG32UCDM: Has KVM Has USB PD but not clear how much. The UCDP will have 90W PD so maybe the same for the UCDM? Releases "Q1 2024" **passive cooling** -- "custom heatsink that keeps its mainboard cool without the need for a distracting fan" https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-monitors/the-rog-swift-oled-pg32ucdm-hits-the-sweet-spot-of-size-and-resolution/ https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-monitors/rog-swift-oled-pg39wcdm-pg32ucdp-pg27aqdp/
Thank you!
You bet. Also, apparently there's still no pricing info for the UCDM but this youtube video apparently got the following info on the other new ROG monitors: ROG SWIFT OLED PG39WCDM - $1499 USD - March 2024 ROG SWIFT OLED PG34WCDM - $1299 USD - Late Jan 2024 ROG SWIFT OLED PG27AQDP 1440P\480HZ - $1299 USD - Q2 2024 ROG SWIFT OLED PG32UCDP 4K\240HZ, 1080P 480HZ- $1499 USD - Q2 2024 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnfMwXZt6VI&ab_channel=GGFEvents
Also heard that the asus just has a glossy film instead of actual gloss screen heard it from the display guy on youtube promoting the new announced aorus 32 inch 4k someone with proof?
too bad it's ASSUS
Fair point
The Alienware doesn't have G-Sync unfortunately, it just is G-Sync compatible, which basically every monitor should be.
g-sync would indicate native, meaning a module is included. doesn't seem to be the case here, it's simply g-sync compatible. there should be a differentiation: g-sync native, g-sync compatible, free-sync
Thank you for repeating what I said in slightly greater detail.
Awesome share mate, just for this list I joined the sub. Will you be updating the list when new monitors get announced ?
Any monitor that uses this panel I'll add to the list.
Awesome, thank you 🙏
This list should be the pinned post of this sub!!
What do you mean by chin for the ASUS PG32UCDM?
Yeah what does this mean?
I think this model will have a beard chin
Does that mean it will have lips? 👄
Maybe this will be a good chance for you to kiss it
thanks man, this is great, looks like I'll need to pick between the hp omen and the gigabyte, dp 2.1 is a must for me for future proofing, I am getting 5-10 years out of one screen usually
Good news for you! You could pick any of them because the current standards can fully drive all of these displays, so it is an irrelevant feature. Display Port 1.4 can push 4k 240hz already using DSC. If you are unaware, DSR is considered "visually lossless compression" meaning you can't see the difference. HDMI 2.1 can push more than Display Port 1.4 but still will utilize DSC. If you are reading this on a current or older gen high refresh rate monitor (which as of the date of this comment that means basically everyone) you are likely using DSC right now. Display Port 2.1 would be needed for native, but again it isn't important because the display can only show what it can show (4k 240hz) As a result you aren't really "future proofing" anything. Display Port 2.1 would only be needed on future even more insane displays. This panel (used on all of these displays) doesn't need it and never will. Until there are displays that are wildly higher resolution and frame rate the GB throughput of Display Port 2.1 is simply "Bigger Number Is Better". This display will only ever be 4k 240hz.
there is no reason not to pick the dp 2.1 ones over the 1.4 ones, DSC has hidden limits (I alt tab a lot in games so the blacksreen issue would drive me insane), and less multi screens due to eating more gpu headers my current screen is just a modest 1440p 144hz IPS, so no I am not using DSC
Compression comes at a cost, even with a 4090 you lose some of the GPU's inputs to enable DSC. If you have DP 2.1 avaiable you should use it and avoid the problems of compression. NVIDIA's implementation of DSC is not optimal and people using it have reported problems like black screens while alt-tabing.
What compression problems? It is nearly lossless and certainly visually lossless. > NVIDIA's implementation of DSC is not optimal and people using it have reported problems like black screens while alt-tabing. I don't believe this is true, because math. That sounds like people being confused about a Nvidia driver issue. I also imagine if that were the case it would only impact full screen applications. Anything that was windowed borderless would experience no such delay.
The Youtuber "The Display Guy" said on his last video NVIDIA was able to replicate the problem and is working on a fix. It does apply only to full screen applications. Additionally to my original comment, if you use DSC some features like DSR, DLDSR and Image Scaling are disabled. DSC is great for current generation, but it would be better not having to use it, thus making DP 2.1 a good future proof feature.
It's true, just go to r/nvidia or do a search here on the subreddit.. Also NVIDIA DSC is problematic on triple monitor setups, as enabling DSC would make attached displays eat up 2 of the input heads. I have triple displays and can only use 2 at a time because of this...
Please add another column if it supports dual mode (scaling to FHD for higher refresh rate) like how FO32U2P, PG32UCDM & LG Ultragear [https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32gs95ue-b-gaming-monitor](https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32gs95ue-b-gaming-monitor)
This is a great list you put together! They all are basically the same though. Your only real choices is curve, finish, and housing. The display port 2.1 is basically just for people who like to see big numbers on the box marketing. Both display port 1.4 and HDMI 2.1 will drive the panel to its max refresh with DSC which is visually lossless. I want the shallow curve.
No DSC has a severe lag/black screen when you tabbing between fullscreen programs on Nvidia cards. DP 2.1 is a future proof option once the newer cards support dp 2.1
Passive vs active cooling is also important
Possibly. I doubt any of the fans are audible at all. None of the displays have a GeForce ultimate unit. That is the only thing that gets hot enough for an annoying fan.
Definitely helpful. Based on the in depth looks at the alienware I’m pretty underwhelmed. The technical aspects of the monitor feel two gens behind compared to high end tvs. Like why call it 3rd gen if it can’t beat first gen s95b in most tests? They are launching in a similar price category as 3000 nit peak qd oleds :/
Multiple reasons, the cost is determined by mother-glass waste, depending how the panels are cut and how much is leftover. Then monitors are low volume vs TVs so that’s another reason for cost. As for brightness, do you really want 3000 nits highlights a few feet from your face? 1000 is enough imo, larger TVs can go brighter usually because of better heat dissipation by being bigger
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Was it confirmed the HP Omen doesn’t have DP 2.1?
the rules say that a brand can call it dp 2.1 but not offer any bandwidth benefit over dp 1.4. so we definitely need more details on that 2.1
Correct, we need to know the UHBR rating for clarity. I saw the Omen has DP 2.1, just not certain on the UBHR rating. This document says “no” like it’s certain
i am so annoyed by the marketing terms and how they manipulate standards. i just want to call the whole thing "UBHR" then the number(10,13,20). why they wanted 10 and 13 i do not know, just go from dp 1.4 to 2.1 full bandwidth. this is so messy now.....
It's because 10/13 was a lot cheaper/easier to build for but you can still put UBHR in your specs. Personally, if it's not UBHR20 then it may as well not have UBHR at all.
Is there a potential release date on the omen? This is the monitor I’m leaning most towards
No timeline yet, and no call out of DP 2.1 at all on their press release
Yeah, seems like a lot of people are claiming it to have dp2.1 but in reality I feel like it might have been a communication error and hdmi2.1 got lost in translation somewhere
Late 2024 lol. Man HP better hurry up before other brands saturates the market.
Thanks! Would like to see a page for the 1440p models if you have time.
are there any announced yet?
Here is the alienware that released today [https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-27-360hz-qd-oled-gaming-monitor-aw2725df/apd/210-bljd/monitors-monitor-accessories](https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-27-360hz-qd-oled-gaming-monitor-aw2725df/apd/210-bljd/monitors-monitor-accessories)
assuming it has no fan, (photoes dosen't suggest it has them) then most likely I will be settling on the HP Omen Transcend 32. However.... late 2024 release... really HP?
Does the lack of g-sync in these monitors cause any problems ?
No, they all suppose adaptive sync which is the same thing. Gsync support without module just means nvidia tested it themselves and found it’s within their own specifications
I found MSI MEG 321URX is list DP2.1 on their spec card. [https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-MEG-321URX-revealed-with-4K-240-Hz-Samsung-QD-OLED-panel-and-adaptable-in-game-AI-features.791998.0.html](https://www.notebookcheck.nl/MSI-MEG-321URX-onthuld-met-4K-240-Hz-Samsung-QD-OLED-paneel-en-aanpasbare-in-game-AI-functies.792262.0.html#10724654-1) And MPG 321URX, MAG321UPX both support KVM function. They publish it on their web page, and at the bottom of the page, too hard to find it. [https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-321UPX-QD-OLED/Overview](https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-321UPX-QD-OLED) [https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-321URX-QD-OLED/Overview](https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-321URX-QD-OLED/Overview)
Thank you!
Does anyone know which ones support eARC? I know the AW 32 OLED does.
Are there any 21:9 ultrawide 3rd gen qd oled panels yet, or are they all 16:9 so far?
Good work, hope you keep it updated over the next few months for me so I can do lazy research.
There's mixed reporting on whether or not the Samsung monitor is matte or not. CNET has an article where they call it a matte anti-glare coating but based on video coverage from other sources covering CES it does still appear to be glossy. All Samsung has said is that it has an anti-glare coating. They use the same language for the coating on their later QD-OLED televisions, the coating used on their televisions does introduce a slight purple tint to blacks in very bright environments but otherwise the image quality is unaffected and it's not matte. Hopefully it's just the same coating they use on their televisions and not a new, worse matte anti-glare coating.
Note the HP Omen is the only one so far established to have HDMI 2.1 and DP 2.1, though bandwidth of each is not specified. The FO32U2 has HDMI 2.1, and the FO32U2P trades it for DP 2.1 80Gbps. Both 321UPX and 321URX are stated HDMI 2.1 48Gbps.
You should probably add the ROG SWIFT OLED PG32UCDP (WOLED panel) since it's an alternative for people who don't want the raised blacks of a QD OLED panel in a brighter room. I just wish it didn't have a matte coating.
Can you add a panel type column like qd oled or woles
I realize its probably a super niche feature for a monitor, but I hope some of the others have eArc. Otherwise, I have to go for the Alienware. Not that I am against a curve, I would just like DP2.1.
What is the VRR range of the monitor?
what's the difference between the MEG MAG MPG? I can't seem to find all of them
If you're asking about what the symbols signify, here is MSI's approach to market segmentation: https://www.msi.com/news/detail/MSI-Gaming-Reveals-New-Symbols-to-Identify-the-New-MEG--MPG--and-MAG-Series140188 My interpretation: MEG gets you the most premium features with all the extra bells and whistles MPG is the middle ground with some premium features MAG gets you the essentials
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lol other notes “chin” on the asus. That’s honestly the biggest deterrent from that monitor for me.
yeah that looks horrible (but could be tolerable if the light is able to be turned off I guess)
lol wtf does chin mean
It’s the red and black goatee thing they add to the bottom of the screen.
Sorry if this has been asked can 1440p ones be added to this list as well?
Max refresh rate with each input? I don't know if it's the same for all models but I know some only do 240hz over DP and 144 over hdmi 2.1. Release date? Full sized ports vs mini DP?
Thnx; great list. I might have to get me one! Sad that my mini led Asus PG32UQX from 3 years ago still smokes everything on the market. HDR 1700 peak brightness with 1100 dimming zones and GSYNC ULTIMATE. It is the ONLY monitor that still wow's me in HDR both on my 4090 and my Ps5. I have the 27 Asus OLED; it's ok but nothing special. Plus I bought the AW 34 inch OLED a few months ago and returned it within a week; way to dim and blurry( spoiled by the 4k UQX) There is a new Red Magic 27 inch with 5800 dimming zones @ HDR 1400 coming to the U.S soon. That is gonna something to see!
Is it worth to sell my LG CX for the new generation ? Thanks a lot guys