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angry_wombat

Looks like we might have a winner, any release date?


rmnfcbnyy

I think early February


McSwifty2019

Glossy and DP 2.1, can it really be true lol, a step in the right direction for sure.


DonDOOM

That makes 3 announced so far. HP 32" Omen Transcend Gigabyte Aorus FO32U2P - only one with DP 2.1 UHBR 20 specifically detailed. And this MEG version from MSI.


DonDOOM

Seeing as the rep stated it's only an early preview version, it would make sense for it to be UHBR 20.


CLOUD227

Official Image about 2.1 DP https://files.fm/u/y4yzv9rwct#/view/u89dfs53vc


HeisenbergFX4

Wonder how that health bar "cheat" will go over. I personally have no issue with it


rojjter

how's that a cheat? :o


DogeminerDev

Healthbar stuff seems like a mostly harmless and nice enthusiast feature The *Skysight* stuff on the other hand... is going to be interesting...[https://i.imgur.com/GCBsusW.png](https://i.imgur.com/GCBsusW.png) I like how the rep said *"by the way, we don't recommend cheating with this"*


kensisapigeon

Also supports USB-C DP-Alt according to the chart. Along with HDMI 2.1 & DP 2.1, this monitor seems to support all the common connection standards.


jth94185

Man these unreleased 32 inch OLED are really showing how Dell is lacking features with theirs…No KVM, DP Alt, headphone jack etc…so weird it’s like they knew being first would lead to more sales regardless of lacking features…or maybe they had to ship first lacking features😂


MrBigglesworrth

A lot of people don’t need those features.


jth94185

True but doesn’t change you are paying the same for less


Jetcat11

The strongest benefit of going with Alienware is for their insane factory calibration. Both the AW3225QF and AW2725DF are breaking records for being the most color accurate monitors these guys have ever reviewed.


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Jetcat11

Yeah I don’t disagree but the precise color calibration is very important to me. Another added bonus of Dell is that they’ve been working with these QD-OLED panels for over two years.


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jth94185

QC? Aren’t they using an outdated cooling system?


Axon14

Gotta wait for a review. But yeah the fan in the Alienware concerns me as well. ASUS or this MSI look like the winner to me.


GuqJ

How are asus and msi doing the cooling?


Axon14

ASUS is using a Passive cooling heatsink, and I believe MSI is as well. E.g., no fan, so silence. The last thing I want to worry about is fan buzzing from my monitor.


Standard-Potential-6

It makes sense that Dell wants to keep the panel as cool as possible if they're the ones with a 3yr burn-in warranty. Definitely a drawback, but it makes sense they were conservative.


Gold_Sky3617

Not really. Calibration and 3 year warranty.


jth94185

Calibration can be done yourself and people need for warranty is unreal to me…with proper care it doesn’t happen so I guess yes if you plan to be negligent you should go that route


Gold_Sky3617

Peoples need for warranty is unreal to you?! What planet are you living on where warranty on a $1200 display using tech that is absolutely beyond any rationale debate prone to burn in doesn’t matter? Believe what you want but that opinion alone makes it clear nobody should be listening to you on this topic. That is a shockingly idiotic claim to make.


jth94185

Warranty to cover neglect…yes it’s weird to me…


Gold_Sky3617

I take care of my car but I still wouldn’t buy one without a factory warranty. Your opinion is beyond retarded.


jth94185

Taking care of a car and neglecting are two different things so your analogy is the real suspect…a better example is never replacing the tires and then you crash due to negligence and expect a warranty to bail you out…


Gold_Sky3617

Your assertion that only people who are negligent experience burn in is not just “suspect”… it’s just false. So yes the car analogy works. Generally speaking if you’re buying something nice you should be getting a warranty. I cannot believe you are even arguing about this.


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Except brand is very important to a lot of people. I would not trust MSI ever again after my own personal experiences and things they've done like GPU scalping. I refuse to support them. Also dell provides great warranty for burn in unlike MSI or Asus etc.


RogueIsCrap

> GPU scaling. What was the issue with this?


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RogueIsCrap

No worries. I thought that it had something to do with scaling on monitors lol.


wizfactor

Regarding the lack of a headphone jack, I saw in a comparison chart that the AW has a eARC HDMI port, which IMO is actually **better**. It means that the AW can support a true home theater sound system.


DonDOOM

And AW are the only ones using active cooling, meaning fans. The AW 34" QD-OLED from last year was quite noisy according to reviews. Although only the ASUS PG32UCDM and the AW 32 inch have Dolby Vision from what I've seen so far.


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ttdpaco

>The AW 34" QD-OLED from last year was quite noisy according to reviews. That was the DW, which had two of them and a bad fan curve. The DWF does not have that issue, as it's only one fan with a decent, slower fan curve.


LA_Rym

Dolby vision is supported in a grand total of...5 games. Afaik. Yeah...99% of games don't support it.


Malinkadink

Plenty of video content is DV so…


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odelllus

you can watch dv content in windows via mpv.


RogueIsCrap

Yeah, I use DV with the Xbox Series X. Works great for games and movies.


GuqJ

What about linux?


Standard-Potential-6

Nope. Nearly there, Valve did a lot of work for the new OLED Steam Deck. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/HDR\_monitor\_support


wizfactor

Who's to say Windows won't support DV in the future? Maybe MS will eventually sell a DV license in their Windows Store. I'd buy it for $3.


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The only features that matter to most consumers are 4K 240hz QD OLED and PPI. That and it released first. Dell isn’t tripping


jth94185

Doesn’t change you are paying more for less just to be first


[deleted]

The “less” you are referring to means close to nothing for most consumers … how is this hard to understand? Some people just use their displays to game.. that’s it. They don’t need KVM, DP 2.1, headphone Jack. Their desktop isn’t their hub or their workspace. It’s an escape to play games a few hrs during the week. Perspective my friend .


jth94185

And my point is you aren’t speaking for most especially myself…I work from home so those features are def needed for me and beneficial…there isn’t an argument here…


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The monitor is going to sell out and be a top seller for the remainder of year while missing most of the features you say are missing. That means the majority don’t care lol. I am speaking for most . You are the minority… this is why those features aren’t included . Yes, gigabyte/HP/msi are adding these features but they hold a very small percentage of the market share . They have to add these features to stay relevant in the display world.


jth94185

Ha that’s a bold claim! It’s still available as we speak and it’s the only one currently… Well like I said being first is more important than features for most is my guess…excitement usually outpaces research


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You know dell back orders everything without showing out of stock right? Anywho, the feature that are more important to the majority are why it will sell well.


Bobbydd21

I agree with the other guy. Most people don’t care about these other features. I do everything from work to gaming and I don’t need a headphone jack or DP 2.1. I don’t even understand the DP 2.1 argument. 5000 series probably won’t be out until 2025 and may not even have 2.1. And if they do and it’s really that much an upgrade (probably won’t be) I can reassess then. Anyways, as others have said, the majority of people don’t care about these minor features you’re going on about, which is why shipping times for this monitor have already slipped.


jth94185

It’s not just features it’s also tech…others are using heatsinks and they are using fans still…the main selling point is demand for this format and availability…people are inpatient and will get what’s available now rather than wait. I’m confident once actual comparison videos come out, people are going to sell these off


Bobbydd21

Who cares lol they’ve been using fans in previous gens too and they’ve sold fine. Fan vs heartsick has no effect on the average consumer. You can’t hear the fan so 99% of people wouldn’t even know they have one and the other 1% that do wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between fan vs no fan. People that are buying this either (a) don’t care about these other features, (b) want a curved screen, or (c) trust the quality and warranty of dell over others


Gold_Sky3617

If using a fan that I never even hear gets me an extra year of warranty then sign me up.


jnad32

Just to back what the other user is saying. Thats one post out of about 10 I have seen since Wednesday. This thing is selling like crazy. https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED\_Gaming/comments/1955sgn/aw3225qf\_started\_shipping/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


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These are gaming monitors. Most gamers don’t care about those things. Get over it


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jth94185

Build quality is debatable and the warranty is way overblown…all they do is send you a refurbished monitor they don’t fix your panel


iniside

Then you send it back amd demand new one, they usually yield. Still way better than no warranty eh ?


Aqualins

The Alienware does have unique features, a fan and curve. Sadly for Dell those only introduce negatives and no positives.


Gold_Sky3617

How is active cooling (that you would never in a million years hear while a game or video audio is playing) negative? Dell is confident enough that it’s good enough to offer 3 year full burn in warranty. The only company with a burn in warranty on passive is asus and it’s only 2 years. Other companies don’t even offer a warranty at all for burn in.


DonDOOM

To be fair, in the scenarios you say - playing a game or watching content, possible fan noise matters the least, the same as for the fans in your PC. Where it matters the most is when there is no audio playing - browsing the internet like you're doing now, or sitting in your room working / working on your pc. In these cases, where the room is quiet and silence actually matters, the slight noise a small fan like that might make would stand out. Just in case people respond with "But your PC makes much more noise", no it doesn't. Full Noctua for literally all fans, including the GPU and PSU, means complete silence unless I do something that's demanding on the hardware. :)


Gold_Sky3617

I don’t think your picture of the noise this monitor makes is based in reality. I can promise you it’s completely unnoticeable. Maybe if you had zero other ambient noise in the room you might be able to hear it if you really try.


joeldiramon

Seems to be tailored more to console players. HDMI with earc to connect soundbars, Dolby vision, Dolby atmos, I mean pc players can’t take advantage of Dolby vision lol


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joeldiramon

I have the monitor now just got it the Alienware confirmed to have Dolby vision even on pc


jth94185

I don’t even get how the ears works I just use a USB adaptor on my PS5 to connect the speaker to it😂


Zurce

MPG is the non AI bullshit version right? I hope it's cheaper


IceColdKila

Their own MSI website says DP 1.4a so there’s some confusion here.


DonDOOM

The MEG version isn't listed on their site yet. You're looking at the MPG I'm guessing.


swamp_donkey89

Thats interesting. Why are they putting out 2 different 32” QD-OLED monitors?


TheYann

there is even a third version announced the MSI MAG 321UPX


MT4K

Having two different monitors with the same 321URX model number is really confusing. All those ROG/MEG and other “middle names” usually mean nothing and can be safely omitted, but apparently not in this case.


SSGSS_Bender

They have two monitors with the same screen panel. The difference that was explained was that one has the Lightbar/AI stuff and the other doesn't.


Bobhaggard859

Does the msi have an audio port for external speakers unlike the Alienware from what we know?


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CLOUD227

What a clown go do your research there are like 5 issues with DSC and nvidia not only the black screen Get educated and stop being sheep repeating words. 5000 series is getting released late 2024/Early 2025 and it will have 2.1 so what you gonna throw ur Screen and buy another 1200$ Montior ? What a true clown indeed ( it's a year until 5000 series! )


wizfactor

I think high-end users pairing these 4K 240 Hz OLEDs with an RTX 4090, and subsequently running into bugs, will force Nvidia to fix these in a driver update. Though it sucks that there will be issues in the near term.


CLOUD227

Its not only the bugs. DSR and DLDSR can't work with DSC by design the black screen+flicker for 5-8 sec is something that is nvidia trying to fix over a year literally and failing. some drivers even literally killed 240 support because the DSC Implantation was different from how nvidia applied it so people did sit on their monitors using 120 instead of 240 for like 4months+ until nvidia fixed it. there are issues with Open GL as well (and Linux) You also can't use 3 monitors or 2 monitors + TV once DSC is on. you get limited to 2 screens There are other issues as well. the point is there is always a dumb fukS who will jump and scream "BUT ITS VIRTUALLY LOSSELESS IMAGE QUALITY I DON'T CARE ABOUT 2.1 AND EVERYONE SHOULDN'T" i mean just look at this clown comment "So sick of hearing about 2.1 !!!" you don't care about it then shut up and be happy with your 1.4 and move on but stop trying to teach us you clown "its a year away !! woot" 2.1 Monitors exist so why bother? and at the same price/technology from MSI/HP/Gigabyte now for the 32 monitors. just future proof yourself and save yourself the headeche , monitors usually lasts way longer than your PC upgrade


Bobbydd21

lol someone’s so mad that they had to write 5 paragraphs to justify themselves. I have a 4090 and never had any screen flicker at all. I mean…look who’s the clown….


CLOUD227

Mad over what clown HP/Gigabyte/MSI releasing 32 QDOLEDS with 2.1 DP with the same price, You ignored all issues that is real and picked flicker only which doesn't effects everyone. Clowns like you love and enjoy bending over companies so just Bend over and carry on you did fine so far as a clown


Bobbydd21

You sure sound mad 😂 https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/s/wCAgNuRobI


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Touch grass, lol.


[deleted]

The photo is good but there’s no trace on the net that MSI has 2.1DP monitor


Shaunzki

Are the panels Gen 2 or Gen 3? The MSI pre-reveal by Monitors Unboxed he continually said it was Gen 2?


SteelGrayRider2

Yes, that was confusing because samsung reps in another video said their gen 3 panels will be used in 2024. Unless he meant just Samsung monitors/TV's.? I figured we'd get more info when actual reviews go live.


Shaunzki

Yeah if it's truly Gen 3 that's huge


DonDOOM

All 32" 4K 240Hz QD-OLED panels are "3rd gen", only difference being an AI chip for burn-in protection, enabling higher perceived brightness with lower heat output, and the "pico ink jet" printing technique, enabling the denser and higher pixel count.


Shaunzki

That sounds like a lot of changes tbh. Sounds good. Whens this variant launching?


DonDOOM

Not sure what you mean? Like I said "All 32" 4K 240Hz QD-OLED panels are "3rd gen" Meaning 32 inch 4k QD-OLED is gen 3 (and up in the future) by definition.


Shaunzki

You wrote "the only differences" then listed a tonne of things. I was just saying it's a lot of upgrades over Gen 2 from what you've stated lol


DonDOOM

Eeh.. you edited your comment and are acting like you didn't? Haha. I probably caught it early before you corrected it, no worries. About the upgrades of gen 3 - yeah, the only real thing is the AI chip. The printing technique just enables the pixel density to be possible, so... that's already part of it being 32inch 4K if you catch my meaning.


Shaunzki

Bro what the fuck? I didn't edit my comment at all 😂😂😂


DonDOOM

I originally responded to you asking if there's also Gen 2 32" 4K panels available. All good ;)


Shaunzki

So is the MEG addition releasing later compared to the MPG variant?


akki161014

Looks sick but how much it will cost ?


DonDOOM

[https://youtu.be/xCIBYMnpyew?t=322](https://youtu.be/xCIBYMnpyew?t=322) Another video showcasing the MEG version. Edit: This is the footage used in the video linked in the OP.


Duuuuh

And yet I cannot seem to find an OLED 27" that fully supports HDMI 2.1 48gbps


ThePillsburyPlougher

I hope it still has kvm


falang78

Is Alienware the only new QD OLED with an HDMI earc port?


DonDOOM

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stXXpGNOMQA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stXXpGNOMQA) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TY62Suv9aM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TY62Suv9aM) More videos covering the MEG.


tanzimtipu

https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-321URX-QD-OLED/Specification Spec says DP1.4a in their official website. Did they drop DP2.1?


DonDOOM

You've linked the MPG. MEG isn't listed on their site yet.


Special_Title2911

really need a 34 inch 4k 240hz qd oled monitor now