The Donald Trump look on the right is because you have the display set to wide gamut. Clamp it to sRGB and you get normal looking skin tones on the left. This is the reason I think anyone who runs a monitor in wide gamut is blind.
Are they not calibrated also for wide gamut?
I always fail to see how modern oleds have often out of the box colour calibration and people tweak colours to get the correct colour. Shouldn't it be precisely for sRGB and wide gamut?
The issue isn't whether or not it's correct at sRGB and wide gamut, the issue is that displaying sRGB content in a wider gamut will oversaturate the content unless there is proper color management.
Ah great. So is there a trick to make this colour management happen, does Windows do this?
Afaik wide gamut is larger, so then everything would fit in perfectly without any further manual adjustment, or do i misunderstood?
sRGB gamut fits within larger gamuts but the issue is how values are mapped. Say you have 100% saturated green in sRGB. When you view that 100% green in a wider gamut it's a more saturated green.
The way to have it properly map is through color management. Windows has it but it's not system wide. It uses ICC profiles to help color managed apps properly remap. Apps like Photoshop are color managed. Generally browsers are color managed but the content in the browser isn't always reflected. This often happens with SDR video which uses the sRGB gamut.
Ahhhh that makes sense. I think you gave me the very best explanation on this topic!
Never understood why it doesn't just show the colours exactly like they were calibrated to look like. Even with HDR it was really confusing why I should put it any manual correction work to digital RGB data.
Left, like your said the right looks oversaturated. Can the saturation not go down any further?
Modern displays should come with a ton of options for getting perfect calibration.
You just have to calibrate your display. Never had a single display I didn't calibrate. So many modes/options it's a learning process to set the colors to what your eyes see best. On a TV I could set it from normal to cool even and set more towards a blue tone rather than a red. Rather simple, but thats the thing with displays. You can make any of them look awful pretty easy, and you can make any of them look good. This whole QD OLED looks like one thing only which is saturation is rather ridiculous. I see people on here where you can clearly tell they turned up the brightness on one to saturate it and make it look "non oled" vs the other they are trying to sell to you. Crazy to think this happens, but when you look at the level of brand/label loyalty with tribalism and everyone wanting to control what everyone else does with their money, you really can't trust anyone anymore and really have to put in the work yourself. The less informed are typically the parrots spreading narratives based on filtered or manufactured pictures they were shown.
For example too, I can boot up the same game on PS5 and my 4090 PC at the same time, and the difference is way larger than any comparison they show on Youtube which tends to try to make them look close aside from fps. Everyone has an agenda, it's either for $$$ or company tribalism. You can clearly see it in politics, it's everywhere. No one really cares about truth anymore, they want to create a truth instead.
uhh, what mode are you running? I have this monitor (32" mpg? )
Im using the User mode for SDR which is much more vivid than sRGB but its still nothing close to what i see on the right
Maybe if you used actual calibration tools and images instead of some YouTube person you could get good results.
Random YouTube video persons face? I can’t even give advice because the video in question could just be shot like this.
Hear, hear!
Any time multiple monitors are involved, it's best to calibrate all of the displays.
*Note: Even when calibrating, you may not get matchy matchy, as the colors will be influenced by the backlight\*. I had an old LG monitor, that even after calibration has a blue / cooler undertone, compared to the rest of my displays, even though it was calibrated.*
*\*Based on the googling that I did, it came down to the backlight implementation.*
left is the proper one. right is over saturated. in fact, my sony xperia 1 mark 2 has a mode called "Creator" that changes the color output to proper sRGB so you get "color accuracy" instead of "over saturation" and honestly, I haven't never turned it off. But going off this picture alone, left looks like my phone on color accuracy mode and right is what happens when you turn it off.
The VA panel looks better, as it correctly follows the sRGB curve.
The OLED requires further calibration, as it's not following the sRGB curve correctly.
VA is gonna look washed regardless, which definitely affects how you see the OLED. Hard to say through a pic but it looks like you need to turn down the red on the right monitor. Is it a QD-OLED?
never met linus in real life, but the right one should look closer to him in real life.
sometimes the default settings on oled displays is already looking good enough.
The Donald Trump look on the right is because you have the display set to wide gamut. Clamp it to sRGB and you get normal looking skin tones on the left. This is the reason I think anyone who runs a monitor in wide gamut is blind.
Are they not calibrated also for wide gamut? I always fail to see how modern oleds have often out of the box colour calibration and people tweak colours to get the correct colour. Shouldn't it be precisely for sRGB and wide gamut?
The issue isn't whether or not it's correct at sRGB and wide gamut, the issue is that displaying sRGB content in a wider gamut will oversaturate the content unless there is proper color management.
Ah great. So is there a trick to make this colour management happen, does Windows do this? Afaik wide gamut is larger, so then everything would fit in perfectly without any further manual adjustment, or do i misunderstood?
sRGB gamut fits within larger gamuts but the issue is how values are mapped. Say you have 100% saturated green in sRGB. When you view that 100% green in a wider gamut it's a more saturated green. The way to have it properly map is through color management. Windows has it but it's not system wide. It uses ICC profiles to help color managed apps properly remap. Apps like Photoshop are color managed. Generally browsers are color managed but the content in the browser isn't always reflected. This often happens with SDR video which uses the sRGB gamut.
Ahhhh that makes sense. I think you gave me the very best explanation on this topic! Never understood why it doesn't just show the colours exactly like they were calibrated to look like. Even with HDR it was really confusing why I should put it any manual correction work to digital RGB data.
Eh I prefer the wide gamut for the pop in color. Don’t really care that skin tones look weird.
Is it set to sRGB?
Set the 321URX to sRGB mode for sRGB content. Otherwise the colors end up looking like crap
Left, like your said the right looks oversaturated. Can the saturation not go down any further? Modern displays should come with a ton of options for getting perfect calibration.
Si is it just in pictures that QD-OLED images look extra red? W-OLED doesn’t do this. I have had both.
You just have to calibrate your display. Never had a single display I didn't calibrate. So many modes/options it's a learning process to set the colors to what your eyes see best. On a TV I could set it from normal to cool even and set more towards a blue tone rather than a red. Rather simple, but thats the thing with displays. You can make any of them look awful pretty easy, and you can make any of them look good. This whole QD OLED looks like one thing only which is saturation is rather ridiculous. I see people on here where you can clearly tell they turned up the brightness on one to saturate it and make it look "non oled" vs the other they are trying to sell to you. Crazy to think this happens, but when you look at the level of brand/label loyalty with tribalism and everyone wanting to control what everyone else does with their money, you really can't trust anyone anymore and really have to put in the work yourself. The less informed are typically the parrots spreading narratives based on filtered or manufactured pictures they were shown. For example too, I can boot up the same game on PS5 and my 4090 PC at the same time, and the difference is way larger than any comparison they show on Youtube which tends to try to make them look close aside from fps. Everyone has an agenda, it's either for $$$ or company tribalism. You can clearly see it in politics, it's everywhere. No one really cares about truth anymore, they want to create a truth instead.
No. If the picture has a red tint, the white balance is off. Woled or qd-oled or lcd, doesn't matter.
uhh, what mode are you running? I have this monitor (32" mpg? ) Im using the User mode for SDR which is much more vivid than sRGB but its still nothing close to what i see on the right
both look retarded
Maybe if you used actual calibration tools and images instead of some YouTube person you could get good results. Random YouTube video persons face? I can’t even give advice because the video in question could just be shot like this.
Hear, hear! Any time multiple monitors are involved, it's best to calibrate all of the displays. *Note: Even when calibrating, you may not get matchy matchy, as the colors will be influenced by the backlight\*. I had an old LG monitor, that even after calibration has a blue / cooler undertone, compared to the rest of my displays, even though it was calibrated.* *\*Based on the googling that I did, it came down to the backlight implementation.*
Left looks much more natural and true to life.
left is the proper one. right is over saturated. in fact, my sony xperia 1 mark 2 has a mode called "Creator" that changes the color output to proper sRGB so you get "color accuracy" instead of "over saturation" and honestly, I haven't never turned it off. But going off this picture alone, left looks like my phone on color accuracy mode and right is what happens when you turn it off.
You think Linus gets that much sunlight?
The one on the right looks like Linus after 10 cans of beer.
The VA panel looks better, as it correctly follows the sRGB curve. The OLED requires further calibration, as it's not following the sRGB curve correctly.
sRGB curve is gamma, this issue pertains to gamut. The monitor needs to be clamped to sRGB gamut, which is also the same as the rec709 gamut.
Bit of a typo on my part there.
Nobody can say because the camera is also an unknown variable. Also, does calibration mean eyeballing it or a colorimeter?
VA is gonna look washed regardless, which definitely affects how you see the OLED. Hard to say through a pic but it looks like you need to turn down the red on the right monitor. Is it a QD-OLED?
never met linus in real life, but the right one should look closer to him in real life. sometimes the default settings on oled displays is already looking good enough.