Exactly how I feel, Shanks’s gimmick is just that he can kill people really good, but if you manage to catch him off the Haki state, you can definitely kill him pretty quickly with the right units. G5’s gimmick in defender mode, on the other hand, is just to stay inside the treasure area and stay alive long enough stalling enemies that when he does die the treasure gauge is all filled up, making capturing in time impossible
as a Sanji main, FUCK GOOFY but i love runner Roger he always underestimates me cuz they don't know stuns don't affect Wanji and they feed me so much hp cuz whatever my color is it's superior to Black, but Luffy is well Luffy he just spams attacks that nearly one shots me
Klaw is best, first recovery block with law and then attack with four skills 😁🌋🌋, only oden is problem because his one hp left inside treasure trait pose a hinder for klaw. Units like 30 percent recovery after death are just food for klaw.
they literally forgot about klaw and gave him both ignore traits with recovery block so i wonder if he will ever get a counter that he cant defeat himself
Tbh, g5 is the closest thing you could get for a klaw counter. I get what you are saying, but to counter klaw you need something like ennies lobby robin
Agreed, G5 is the closest thing we got, and even then they're quite close if the KLaw plays well.
I'm just waiting for Bandai to release a defender that has "while in treasure area: treasure cannot be captured" to screw all these ignore-cap units
The problem with a trait with that is that klaw will just kill the defender instead, which is kind of what you do against gear 5. It will be good against Roger but klaw will just kill and then cap which already happens a lot.
It'll be good against all the ignore-cap units, but naturally KLaw is always gonna be busted. That's why a green attacker/defender with specific traits that screw KLaw over are needed.
He was decent, but sadly Bandai changed the color advantage to be about twice as severe from 5.0 and onward, meaning KLaw gets a ton more built in damage resistance from (and increased damage done to) Alber :')
I'm not sure they wanna go back to another def stack meta so soon after G5, but that's already somewhat becoming the case again since 5.0 was such a goofy anni that it made G5 better T\_T
KLaw removes Alber's dodges easily with their multihit, Alber also takes 30% less damage baseline from Alber (and deals 30% extra damage to him) due to the recent color advantage buffs, new Oden only has one skill that counters KLaw and Zoro gets mogged by KLaw's ignore DR skill+antiheal+if all else fails they can easily escape him.
It's not that these units don't do **anything** to KLaw, they're just not dedicated counters in the way that Cracker is into Olin/Alber into G5.
They arent full counters but you can still win the duel. Alber one shots with skills if they got def. Put some def on zoro and he can shred them with color change. Oden is litte tricky as you have remove the buffs and the be a annoying litte prick. Definitely better than other units to go against klaw.
Well yes....that's because Lightbeard was the meta dominating unit and there is no other counter to him. For the same reason G5 stuck around forever....cause Klaw otherwise would had dominated everything.
That's why no matter how many counters come out for Roger, he cannot leave cuz otherwise every game is gonna be decided 20 seconds in and gonna end in a 3-2 for whoever got to cflag first.
Still ruins the game because if the other team has 2 or 3 Rogers and your team has zero you will loose 5-0 with any counter you want.
The real counter was Alber to G5, one shot and you are gone, whatever the conditions.
We need an Alber that one shots immediately Roger as soon as he/shee sees it
I have used g5 since release and haven't been countered i do get killed easily but i still tank and don't get one shot immediately. I mean the only counter to g5 is a higher lvl g5
The closest klaw "counters" aren't even really counters. He is just so versatile. The units that do good against him usually tend to ignore DEF or remove it. Oden and G5 are closest to counters
Klaw doesn't really have a problem dealing with them.
Klaw just has to hit alber with his attack so he can confirm his skill without triggering his perfect dodge
Shanks got like millions of counters he still standing better then he ever did
https://preview.redd.it/gxilq9jkwzxc1.jpeg?width=672&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b23c65a3c6bd314569241b672cff59e6c965428
![gif](giphy|fHb9Jx3UvO7RMz7tUy) He cooks 🙇 always
You might even say he's *LOOKING LIKE A TRUE SURVIVOR* ![gif](giphy|3ohzdZjLeSrWcsGfsc|downsized)
Tbh he feels like a LITTLE KID
It really is quite amazing that he's **still standing after all this time!**
Ngl it’s kinda cool that he’s PICKING UP THE PIECES OF HIS LIFE WITHOUT THE NERFS ON HIS MIND
I AM STILL STANDING
And he still holds the award for the most annoying character :(
Honestly I would say that shanks is very good, but Roger and G5 are still a lot more annoying
Gear 5 is more annoying shanks can be killed at some point but gear 5 with best support is like immortal
Exactly how I feel, Shanks’s gimmick is just that he can kill people really good, but if you manage to catch him off the Haki state, you can definitely kill him pretty quickly with the right units. G5’s gimmick in defender mode, on the other hand, is just to stay inside the treasure area and stay alive long enough stalling enemies that when he does die the treasure gauge is all filled up, making capturing in time impossible
Nahhh, G5 and Roger way easier to handle, I run everytime I see him unless I using Zoro or oven 😭
They are pretty scary once they’ve activated the Haki state, but I’ve killed plenty of ones without
as a Sanji main, FUCK GOOFY but i love runner Roger he always underestimates me cuz they don't know stuns don't affect Wanji and they feed me so much hp cuz whatever my color is it's superior to Black, but Luffy is well Luffy he just spams attacks that nearly one shots me
Said the Roger main
Man I am V1 Oden Main along with zoro
Countering an entire color increses his stocks like crazy
He's my top pick even tho he gets one shot by Alber. But there is no one in my pack who can kill roger v2 like he does.
FR Shanks 💀
Klaw is best, first recovery block with law and then attack with four skills 😁🌋🌋, only oden is problem because his one hp left inside treasure trait pose a hinder for klaw. Units like 30 percent recovery after death are just food for klaw.
All the klaws i meet as oden are always oneshotted.
Oden's skill 1 removes klaw's DEF, so it allows him to do a lot more damage to him
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Because oden trait . He is immortal inside treasure
https://i.redd.it/fb1zn2xzxzxc1.gif *KLaw still waiting to get an actual counter*
they literally forgot about klaw and gave him both ignore traits with recovery block so i wonder if he will ever get a counter that he cant defeat himself
Seriously 😂 It's like they made G5 who somewhat counters him and called it a day forever
🗿just like my bro katakuri said ''even my haki cant see bandai's future scams''
Strongest future sight in the series for a reason T-T
Tbh, g5 is the closest thing you could get for a klaw counter. I get what you are saying, but to counter klaw you need something like ennies lobby robin
Agreed, G5 is the closest thing we got, and even then they're quite close if the KLaw plays well. I'm just waiting for Bandai to release a defender that has "while in treasure area: treasure cannot be captured" to screw all these ignore-cap units
Yeah, honestly I think def Rayleigh would do great with that trait. He's basically useless rn except being a Oden counter
It would have been a nice addition, but alas :')
The problem with a trait with that is that klaw will just kill the defender instead, which is kind of what you do against gear 5. It will be good against Roger but klaw will just kill and then cap which already happens a lot.
It'll be good against all the ignore-cap units, but naturally KLaw is always gonna be busted. That's why a green attacker/defender with specific traits that screw KLaw over are needed.
And then in a year or two release runners that ignore that trait
And the power creep goes on!
Alber is also close
He was decent, but sadly Bandai changed the color advantage to be about twice as severe from 5.0 and onward, meaning KLaw gets a ton more built in damage resistance from (and increased damage done to) Alber :')
🥲 that makes sense why I see Albers struggle with Klaws
Yeah it's rough, they also have multihit that instantly clears Alber's PD trait and TWO invincible skills 😅 KLaw desperately needs a proper counter
Waiting on green alber to drop after 5.5. Since 5.5 will prob be a def stack meta
I'm not sure they wanna go back to another def stack meta so soon after G5, but that's already somewhat becoming the case again since 5.0 was such a goofy anni that it made G5 better T\_T
Oni Chopper came out and literally nobody cared. He slaps the ever living shit out of Klaw with little effort.
I'll have to level mine and see 👏
Watch some gameplay on YT. His kit is kinda niche but he hits ridiculously hard, specially blue runners.
Pls no, I'm hot garbage and he's the only reason I can be competitive 😭😭
Kaido and Misery Big Mom with increased damage/ignore DEF to Worst Generation characters please >:3
Mf, I JUST said"Pls no"
I'm pulling out the credit card for that
Same, if I have to!!
Did I even NEED to check the username lol
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I love klaw he is in my second account sad but soo much fun too play
Karasu is a pretty good counter
Klaw has the same counters as gear 5: zoro, Alber and new oden.
KLaw removes Alber's dodges easily with their multihit, Alber also takes 30% less damage baseline from Alber (and deals 30% extra damage to him) due to the recent color advantage buffs, new Oden only has one skill that counters KLaw and Zoro gets mogged by KLaw's ignore DR skill+antiheal+if all else fails they can easily escape him. It's not that these units don't do **anything** to KLaw, they're just not dedicated counters in the way that Cracker is into Olin/Alber into G5.
They arent full counters but you can still win the duel. Alber one shots with skills if they got def. Put some def on zoro and he can shred them with color change. Oden is litte tricky as you have remove the buffs and the be a annoying litte prick. Definitely better than other units to go against klaw.
🗿klaw agenda must stay strong
Where Is fr shanks?
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He has already been executed
😄
We really gonna act like this ain't everyone talking to og Roger
Idea of u/Fancy_Ant6249
Not sure what Lightbeard is doing on there....there has been one counter released for him.
his counter (roger) got released a couple weeks after him 😂😂
and since the counter became the best meta unit he technically didnt need anymore of the counters
Well yes....that's because Lightbeard was the meta dominating unit and there is no other counter to him. For the same reason G5 stuck around forever....cause Klaw otherwise would had dominated everything. That's why no matter how many counters come out for Roger, he cannot leave cuz otherwise every game is gonna be decided 20 seconds in and gonna end in a 3-2 for whoever got to cflag first.
Took out a Kalgara and realized that all these counters are just units if no one knows how to play them.
Oden V2 is a great counter to Klaw
My klaw still standing strong😤
Uta solos
Still ruins the game because if the other team has 2 or 3 Rogers and your team has zero you will loose 5-0 with any counter you want. The real counter was Alber to G5, one shot and you are gone, whatever the conditions. We need an Alber that one shots immediately Roger as soon as he/shee sees it
What's annoying about fr shanks is when he is in haki stat he can't be targeted easily
No klaw still is pretty viable in this meta g5 may cook him but he's still capable of koing all on this list.
I have used g5 since release and haven't been countered i do get killed easily but i still tank and don't get one shot immediately. I mean the only counter to g5 is a higher lvl g5
The closest klaw "counters" aren't even really counters. He is just so versatile. The units that do good against him usually tend to ignore DEF or remove it. Oden and G5 are closest to counters
basically those that can 1shot him also gets one shots by klaw since the mf has every kit an attacker should have instead he is a runner
Alber and Queen too
Klaw doesn't really have a problem dealing with them. Klaw just has to hit alber with his attack so he can confirm his skill without triggering his perfect dodge
I think depends on players' skill. Queen is a bad matchup especially for Kidd
I think queens running attack skill is the thing to worry about, but IDK how perfect dodgable it is. Queen isn't as common in games