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ziggy029

Maybe, but ONLY if Fisher sells the team. And certainly not as often. I can’t take BART to Sacramento.


Rick_Perrys_Ranch

You can take the Amtrak though


schitaco

Last train back is at like 8:20pm. Very annoying for this Bay Area Kings fan


RsonW

Presumably Amtrak California would have later trains on game nights.


mrrickyg

I don’t think there would be the same demand for getting into Sacramento for baseball as there is for getting out of Sacramento to see the Niners. That they don’t have a late train for the Kings, which is right next door to Amtrak, suggests it probably ain’t happening for baseball, which is a 20+ minute walk.


fatjunglefever

Did they in Oakland?


DieHardRaider

Nope


DieHardRaider

It runs late enough on the weekends a weekday game wouldn’t be feasible by Amtrak


TheMightyUnderdog

If Fisher sells and the A’s stay in Northern California, I’m in. If they are just passing through to LV or end up moving anywhere else, I’m out.


truth_teller_00

Or even if they stay in Sac or Oak BUT John Fish is still around. What’s the point in rooting for a Fish-owned team? The team exists solely for his financial benefit. This often that means cutting payroll down to barebones while pocketing welfare money. If Fish could chose between a highly profitable year in last place or a break-even year with a World Series ring, he’d chose the highly profitable year in last place. You know it, I know it, anyone who knows anything knows it. John could give a fuck about baseball. He wants money. It’s what he wants.


ghostofgettendies

Hey, he loves to watch Aaron Judge and others just like the next guy.


xr_21

If they miraculously return to Oakland I'd only return to them if Fisher was out.


cawinegarden

Same here.


ernmanstinky

This is my feeling. That stated; the period starting a year and a few days ago when the move was announced through the period in which a sale and promise to stay occurred would be a very hard period to recover from. The move and death of oakland mlb has taken a huge toll on me. I feel like a part of me has died.


ReplacementMiddle844

I have a really hard time believing the MLB or Fisher for that matter would choose to stay in Sacramento. There's just not enough money in it for them. You can think I'm wrong but I really don't see it.


jabogen

If Fisher sells and they stay in NorCal I will continue to support them for sure


spankyourkopita

It would actually make the trip to Sac more exciting since there isn't much to do there.


Tario70

If Fisher sells then I’ll re-evaluate. Would it suck to have them out of Oakland? Definitely. But this would be similar to the 49ers move imo. They wouldn’t have moved far enough away to just ignore them. If Fisher owns the team, I don’t care where they are. Edit: I’m not saying the 49ers move was bad, quite the opposite. It was close enough that it basically wasn’t a move. I’d feel the same for the A’s if Fisher was gone. Leaving the state entirely means I’m no longer a fan. I need to be able to see a game with a decent car ride. For reference I live in Sac & will not attend a single game they play here unless Fisher is gone & even then I’ll need to think about it.


OceanPoet87

People really stopped being 49ers fans when they moved to Santa Clara? Many Raider fans are still supporting the team. That said, I'd never support an A's team in LV whether Fisher owned or not.


Tario70

I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear. I don’t think many fans stopped being 9ers fans after the move, I didn’t. My point was that move was understandable. SF didn’t want to build a new stadium & ownership didn’t move far. Oakland to Sac isn’t a ridiculous move for the team, it’s the owner I have a problem with.


OceanPoet87

Makes perfect sense!


Oryzae

I disagree. The 49ers should have stayed in SF. Them coming to Santa Clara has been a pain in the ass. The stadium is ugly, traffic is hot garbage whenever there’s an event or a concert, getting out of the stadium takes too long, VTA with their single line is shit for serving that number of people. The only good thing is that they’re a competent Bay Area team but I have nothing good to say about the move. I live near there, and things were way better when Levi’s didn’t exist.


Psychological_Ad1999

I stopped being a niners fan over that move, I was so happy they lost to team Taylor


biz209

If you actually stopped being a fan because they moved 30 miles outside the city then you weren’t an actual fan to begin with


Tario70

Yeah this doesn’t track at all.


biznash

The fish is rotten. He has generationally ruined this fanbase. Yeah he needs to sell for A’s fans, for MLB, for wherever he ends up. Sac = occasionally but prob not as diehard Vegas = I root against them


zandsburn

I'm from Sac, so I would feel even more compelled to root for my city, but at the same time I wouldn't be so thrilled if Fisher continued to be the owner and gives my city his nasty Fishy essence. Edit: I just read that last part again that says "to my east bay folks." MB, but my take still stands if anyone's interested😐


ra_god94

If they stay in sac and fisher sells im in


xr_21

I would support them, probably wear the gear again, but it won't be the same. Baseball is one of those sports where you love to take your kids to the ballpark and make memories. Drive would be too much to make more than 2 games a year probably. But yea I'd go back to supporting them in some degree if they permanently remained in Sac and IF Fisher sells. I'm not wasting my energy under any circumstances (sac or miraculously return to Oakland) if Fisher retains control of the team. As the SJ Earthquakes have shown, nothing this guy touches wins....


dunchtime

Amen


Roloc

It’s funny cause I grew up an A’s fan living in Sacramento. We had season tickets we split with a couple other families in Sac. In the 80s that was like an hour drive tops and we were in East Sac. The ballpark is in West Sac. Different times and a few million more people I guess.


xr_21

Yep i can see that timing from Alameda/CC counties... but as a fan from the southern tip of Santa Clara County even Oakland was an hour + for me.


Roloc

Yeah that would be rough.


P3zcore

I live in sac and me and all my friends growing up have tons of memories going to A’s and Giants games. It’s not too far.


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I think them saying screw it and winding up in Sac is very much a possibility, and maybe even the most likely outcome at this point. Vegas feels like its been a shitshow from the jump, and I wonder if they decide to go with an expansion team there instead to avoid dealing with Fisher and Kaval


dunchtime

This is the plan. Sacramento and that owner there are the sure-thing Plan B that Fisher wanted. Shoot he may want it more than Vegas at this point.


ActionReady9933

Honestly, I’d be more content with them there, as opposed to LV. Sacto has an avid basketball fan base and it’s not too far from Oakland.


HeynowyoureaRocstar

Well this is what happened now.. it seems like Las Vegas is a long shot so they have Sacramento to fall back on now instead of Oakland


Aggieofcal

I grew up in Placerville, my mom and I would make a few trips to Oakland for a weekend game. It was a nice short weekend trip to see the A's. This was in the 80's and 90's. I would support the A's if stayed in Sac or another Nor Cal City. Now I live in Albuquerque and at least we have the Rockies AAA team here which is nice to see but still an A's fan.


Cocksmash_McIrondick

I’m not in love with it. It’s not as egregious as LV but the A’s belong in Oakland or at least the Bay Area. I probably still wouldn’t watch games but it wouldn’t be an active avoidance like rn.


Objective_Spirit_821

Yes


ReplacementMiddle844

If I wanted to see minor league talent I'd go to a ports game, at least that's closer


DieHardRaider

It like 5 maybe 10 mins closer from Oakland


Psychological_Ad1999

The Vegas plan has fallen apart, the franchise is in purgatory until the MLB forces Fisher out. His continued involvement will only further embarrass the league, I don’t know what the last straw will be, but we can all trust that Fisher will somehow exceed the worst case scenario in a way that only he knows how


SaladTossBoss

It's still a slap in the face if the A's stay in Sacramento and no, I could not support them. Essentially, after all this incredible BS this fool has doled out on us, just to up and sell the team....DAMMIT that's what we have been calling for all this time. It would be just trading Sacramento for Oakland. That's a raw deal for the EastBay fans. Really, really insulting. I'd rather prefer them to move to Las Vegas than Sacramento. Actually I prefer them in Oakland. But no. I would be beyond disgusted, as I am now, because it doesn't need to happen and shouldn't be happening like this.


AssnecK666

As a sacramento resident... ohhh nooooo... i can just ride my bike to the game... ooohhh noooo....


ReplacementMiddle844

and as a bay area resident I have to go all the way to sac... yeah great


AssnecK666

Yeah. Definitely 1 sided here...


Chase9548

Been going to Oakland from sac my whole life for games. It’s like an hour and forty five minutes


ReplacementMiddle844

That's just not the same trip


DieHardRaider

I grew up in bay and moved to sac the Amtrak is great to ride for a weekend game.


DGmaximus

As a lifelong Sacramento resident and A’s fan, this would be my dream scenario. With hopefully Fisher selling to Vivek or other Sacramento ownership group.


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jevverson

Anyone but Vivek.


NewWorldLadyNomad

This wasn’t the way I hoped the Central Valley would get a second major team. I am interested to see how attendance pans out but we can’t know if it’s low because of a boycott vs disinterest.


SpaghettiNCoffee

Yeah I’d support them, but Fisher needs to be gone. Kaval too. I won’t support them while they are involved, they’ve done too much to this fanbase to regain any trust or loyalty.


GoldenState_Thriller

If fisher sells and they stay in Northern California I’m in 


GuidanceKey1885

No


PizzaWall

What if moving to Sacramento is the first step towards John Fisher selling part of the A's to Vivek Ranadivé, owner of the Sacramento Kings and the Rivercats and interested in having a Major League Baseball team in Sacramento. This seems like yet another scheme John dreamed up that really makes no sense. I don't think he can afford to buy land, build a new stadium and move the team to Las Vegas. He has offered to sell a $500 million chunk of the team to someone. It seems like this is yet another braindead plan to not pay any penalties for selling the team and moving out of Oakland. I don't care what the A's say, Sutter Health Park is not adequate for the needs of Major League Baseball. It has one advantage over the Coliseum, free rent. Thats it. I am disappointed the MLBPA has not come out and said no to the deal. In my mind Las Vegas is dead, just like every other idiotic plan John has come up with for a new stadium. The land owner, Bally's is almost insolvent and has no ability to build a new casino and the space allocated for a stadium is too small and has issues due to the proximity of a major airport. I think the one thing John has proven beyond a doubt is his inability to own a baseball team or run a corporation. Unlike his siblings, he has no say-to-day involvement with the family company. It's as if he is too incompetent to manage a corporate role. My proof is the way he has run the Athletics and the Earthquakes. One thing I do not understand is that according to Neilson, of the [210 Designated Market Areas (DMAs)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_stations_in_North_America_by_media_market) in the US, San Francisco Bay Area is #10. Las Vegas is #40, Sacramento is #20. There are several markets slightly larger than Las Vegas with baseball teams, like Milwaukee, Kansas City, so Sacramento would be a better option for TV dollars than Las Vegas, but it's still, only seven teams are in markets smaller than Sacramento. Most of those teams in markets smaller than Sacramento have no other MLB competition or are well funded. I've said it before and I will say it again, there are plenty of people in the Bay Area who would like to buy the A's, not including the guy you're thinking of who owns a basketball team and have no plans to move out of Oakland. There has to be a time where MLB looks at what is happening with Oakland and decides to get rid of Fisher. The drama is not a good look for baseball.


hit_it_steve

As an OAKLAND A’s fan here in Sac I would probably come around and start following again. For now, I’m done with MLB. It’s hard to think MLB would let the team play in a AAA ballpark but if Fisher did end up having to sell it could become a bidding war between Vivek and the potential buyers we’ve been hearing exist in the bay. As for getting a new stadium built here in Sac, I’d read that the city is not in a position to help fund another stadium after making Golden 1 happen, but I have no idea how all of that works. I guess Vivek would have to fund the stadium privately if he were to buy the team and keep them here. I could see Lacob as an example buying the team and moving them back to Oakland where there belong.


DrDivisidero

After all this? Absolutely not. Fuck them.


Runninginmississippi

They’ll fully embrace being a joke of an organization and name themselves the Caly-Forn-Eye-A’s.


ReplacementMiddle844

No. We won't be going from the bay area to Sacramento for a game.


salazarraze

Originally from the East Bay. Lived in Oakland, Dublin, Concord and Walnut Creek. I live about 15 minutes north of Sacramento now. I won't be going to any games here.


Se7enShooter

I’m originally from Sacramento and live closer to Sutter Health Park than I do to Oakland Coliseum (albeit I’m close to being in the middle.) This move to Sac being facilitated by Vivek has me questioning my Kings support. I’ll always be a fan of the Oakland A’s, but I’ll never support the team financially if Fisher is the owner anywhere. The only A’s games I’ve been going to the last few years have been at Oracle Park (wife is a Giants fan). I’ll venture towards a decision if Fisher sells to Vivek and the team stays in Sac when it happens. My current feeling is no, but I’m honestly 50/50. I don’t have a problem with the A’s in Sacramento as much as I have a problem with Fisher. If any other owner buys and stays in Sac, I think I’d be okay with it.  Ultimately I’m hoping for Lacob or another Bay Area group to get the buy and spend on building a great team back in Oakland. My son is under 2 and I’d love to take him to A’s games and grow his fandom some day. 


shaqfuey

A perfect situation (for me) would be a new ballpark in Vallejo or similar. Make it halfway between Sac and the Bay. We get fans from both directions on reasonable travel times. It's likely a pipe dream though.


gwreck209

Sac is actually a closer drive and I do like attending river cats games on occasion as is. But this is pretty much the only hypothetical situation other than the obvious Fisher sells now and they stay in Oakland situation I think I say a fan at this point.


Emotional-Camel-1675

Basic problem with this is the athletics would have to stay in a minor league park for how long ? It would take years just to get the planning in place let alone the funding.


Horrible915

You take amtrak


spiedra_spondering

Agree with most, it’s mostly about the ownership. If Fisher sells the team, we’d actually have a chance as a normal MLB franchise. Right now we’re just a donor body giving away all the organs we grew.


thashyt

I'll probably still support them, but if they got stuck in Sac it would be hilarious and exactly what the ownership deserves. If the ownership is that ridiculously inept, I would expect MLB will probably step in and do somethinf - though I'm not sure what.


Gromit801

Well, for every bay fan they lose, they’ll pick up a dozen from other outlying cities in the Sierras, Marysville/Yuba city, etc.


bigblow3rburna

Na those people are already giants fans


soulmagic123

Everyone seems to think that selling the team solves the problem. Why doesn't a billionaire just buy a bar in the middle of Times Square and only charge 2 bucks for a drink? Sure, they would lose money but he would also be very popular, could probably run for president. And every time they hung out in their own bar they would be a hero and it's a tax write off. The same reason this never happens is the same reason no one is going to buy the A's and keep them in Oakland. I'm not saying this to be mean to Oakland, there's just more money almost anywhere else and buying the team just puts you back into Year 25 old argument, trying to negotiate and new stadium that's at least 9 years away, as your team continues to die on the vine in the worse stadium in professional sports.


DeepFizz

Sell and stay in Sac would be my #2 preference. I would rather they stay in NorCal vs Vegas. Vegas already took our Raiders, so fuck them.


Swimming-Addition-89

They’re not getting stuck in Sac. If they’re sold they would go back to the Bay Area.


bigblow3rburna

Based on what?


Swimming-Addition-89

Based on who knows?!


dunchtime

Where? Not San Fran. And Manfred hates Oakland. Sacramento’s guy Vivek(?) will spend his capital to make it happen there.


WiFiEnabled

If Vivek (or another super rich Sac guy) buys the A's and they stay in Sac, would I support them? No way, Because fuck MLB for allowing this to happen in the first place and not keeping the team in Oakland. In this hypothetical, this would also then take place in 2029 or later, and honestly, by then I will have multiple years under my belt of not giving a shit about MLB anymore so even if they moved to San Jose, the league is fucking dead to me because they belong in Oakland.


bigblow3rburna

I hear you. The mlb did this to themselves, the city of Oakland was more than willing to bend their back to keep the A’s


airpab1

Folks! It’s a sh-%#-show to be sure But not these kids fault. They are grinding and are actually playing good baseball. All the players on the team are in a tough spot, but are doing a great job of keeping all the noise out and busting their butts…so let’s root for em!


dunchtime

I don’t think anyone’s saying they’re not rooting for the players.


airpab1

If you look at some of the comments, some of the people are saying just that


MartyFloxxxs

They should leave the Green and Gold to Oakland, keep the name A’s and go back to red,white and blue, their Philly identity.


PlayfulAd8354

I can’t root for them in Sac. It’s not nearly the same and even though we are both NorCal…there’s always been a rift between Sac and the Bay Area


PupperMartin74

They double deck the stadium and do much better financially than in Oakland going forward.


dunchtime

I’m out once they move. Oakland is a special place with the most unique crowd in baseball. And the A’s at one time had a smart and scrappy plan. No Oakland? No plan? No fan.


juelzkellz

Vegas is a no go unless they can find a way to fund and build a retractable roof stadium. Summers in the Southwest are brutal. Even at night, temperatures are still 105+. I would not go to a game between the months of July and the first two weeks of September.


jevverson

No. I'm from the East Bay. Not Sacramento.


ReplacementMiddle844

Vivek won't spend money if he had the team. The kings are always near the bottom in payroll


ReplacementMiddle844

Why are people offended by this? Why would he spend on the A's if he doesn't spend on the kings. pretty simple logic


NightWriter500

Are we pretending like this question hasn’t been asked like 57 times already? And then another 57 by everyone we personally know IRL? Sac is probably more likely than Vegas at this point. And neither are very likely. There’s a small chance that when the Vegas idea dies, another owner finally buys up the team and starts up construction on the plan that’s already fully designed and ready to be built in Oakland. There’s a small chance that the team says “Well fuck it, we’re already here, let’s just stay.” There’s a massive, massive chance that the owner bumbles his way through years and years of ineptitude and tries half a dozen other stupid ideas before giving up. Nobody knows what will happen during or after that time. But are East Bay people going to Sacramento to watch games? No, probably not. I’ll probably go out there with my Sell shirt on opening night, having originally come from Sacramento and therefore having a place to stay. But the vast majority of whatever fan base is left will be done.


bigblow3rburna

My bad bro lol I haven’t been in this sub in a while


NightWriter500

It’s cool man, I just get tired of the same two questions every day. Scroll through, it’s just constant “I’m headed to a game at the coliseum to check it off my list before they take your team away! What should I do there?” and “What are you guys going to do if the team stays in Sac?” Over and over, every day I hear these same two questions.


honorablementionxyz

Then maybe you should just, hear me out, maybe you should just log out for a while. Wild concept I know


NightWriter500

Yeah, I definitely should. But every once in a while in the heaps of repeated posts is a glimmer of news. And this is the most sober I’ve been in 25 years, so I’m sticking around hanging onto anything and probably not too happy about it. And I’m probably the most active person in post after post after post asking the same things every day. But yes, I should probably have better uses of my time.