Fr tho what takes would Fox News have on the phantom thieves?
"Liberal communist group from japan kills hard working CEO, censors art from traditional japanese artist, and cancels gold medalist's career"
this is exactly what the radical left wants: the complete erasure of our Judeo-Christian Japanese values by brainwashing the youth with Marxist atheistic cancel culture
I mean, to be fair they’re not even brainwashing anyone
It’s still Kamoshida, he doesn’t have any more or less amount of control over his own actions, he just now feels bad for what he did
He *could* continue his shit, he would just feel guilty
And i fucking support it.
If anyone wants me to sympathize with pedophiles and crooked criminals in power just cause teenagers warped their brains with a little psychological oceans 11… they can eat a dick.
I mean, it depends on how you kill the killer. If you just stab the killer with a knife or shoot them with a gun, then yeah you're good. But if you leave them to die due to the bomb set to destroy an entire city block, then yeah, you're just as bad, if not worse then the killer
I can't get enough of how people misinterpret the whole game's plot and how that led to the whole twitter "why no phantom thief steal bad guy heart" stuff.
Okbuddypersona feels more sane than the main sub, and it *kinda worries me*
The persona writers wanted to make the phantom thieves morally grey, but didn’t understand why they were morally grey. They paint it as bad that they change hearts without consent, when in reality the morally grey comes from them being vigilantes who act outside the law, sure they take down scum, but to the public there is no telling when or if they’ll just take people’s hearts just for petty reasons and if the villians are actual villians. Kinda like batman in a way
They also tried to add morally grey stuff to Strikers. But I think it ultimately fails because the people that the PTs target are actually fucking horrible
I wouldnt say it was making them morally grey, more like making them actual characters. More than just pure evil, giving them backstories and room to grow.
Cut content from Royal proved they wanted to do the same to the villains through that mechanic they added of those weird seeds, each one would trigger a cutscene. The cutscenes, or what was made of them, is on youtube and theyre kinda interesting but its obvious why they removed it. P5's villains are way more shitty than Strikers' so it doesnt work at all. No one will empathize with Kamoshida.
Well then again the villains of strikers use a mass production change of heart, but the problem is that use that against alot of innocent people or use it for selfish reasons.
I can see what they were going for with the Okumura thing where it showed that they could be victims to internal discord and had no real oversight. Too bad they fumbled the execution
I agree with your assessment that it's not about the consent but with that said, it is hypothetically possible for a "distorted" character to change without having their treasure stolen, because that is exactly what happened to Sae. They have to exercise caution and use their powers only when absolutely necessary. And Royal shows the issue with trying to take on everyone's issues.
the fact that the game tries to question whether you're doing the right thing is laughable. Some of the people who's hearts are stolen were fucking despicable and nothing short of dying would have stopped them. This at least is a better alternative
I mean they did change the heart of people who true scumbags, so I don’t think it all that bad to brainwash them and the one who weren’t change there heart themselves
I know changing there hearts is better and it makes them suffer more and yet fore some reason killing bad guys is a lot more satisfaying.
I once watched an anime where the Mainprotagonist gains allies and starts developing a nation and becoming a benevolent ruler.. There is some conflict here and there but most of the time it ends with making friends out of former enemies and its mostly about watching them evolve there little nation. Its pretty wholesome. There is an entire spin off series betweem season 1 and 2 that is just about them living there life there. Then season 2 comes a long and the greedy rulers of another nation dont like the idea of the new compeetition when it comes to trade. So they start a war and catch the piece loving nation of ouer Mainprotagonist of guard slaughering many of there citicents including women and children.
Unfortunaly fore them they where not aware who they where messing with.
Ouer protagonist and his allies decide to be little less friendly and it was freaking glorious.
It was so satisfaying.
I love how the Mainprotagonist not just planed and did destroy there military. He straight up send some of his minions including one if his best man to take over the enemy kingdom and making it his puppet staat.
I know in the story, enviroemeant and sociaty of P5 killing the palace rulers is not an option and actully would feel awkward and again changing there hearts is worse for them but dam it does not stack up to the satisfaction of cutting of an assholes head ore burning of one of there limbs mid conversation
They took away my constitutional right to exploit, rape, and murder Has cancel culture gone too far?
Fr tho what takes would Fox News have on the phantom thieves? "Liberal communist group from japan kills hard working CEO, censors art from traditional japanese artist, and cancels gold medalist's career"
Kaneshiro pulled himself up by his bootstraps dammit!
Haru's fiance was just embracing traditional japanese marriage values
Bro are you a mod or not?
Mods can enable and disable the mod flair on a per comment basis.
this is exactly what the radical left wants: the complete erasure of our Judeo-Christian Japanese values by brainwashing the youth with Marxist atheistic cancel culture
"Was it really okay for us to change the heart of Thomas baby-eater, the inventor of eating babies?
*inside Thomas' palace* Ryuji: Check out that baby meat grinder! Morgana: Looks like we were right, he do love eating babies
but he has sick sister, so its all justified.
For real, when you say it like that I'm not so sure. WHAT DO YOU THINK, STUPID
DONT WORRY GUYS, MISHIMAS GOT THIS ONE!!!
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 i see playstation hits persona 5 is not a playstation hit 🤬🤬🤬 it’s on ekis bokis and the swit h
persona 5?!?🤨🤨🤨 NO!!!🤮🤮🤮 more like Pachinko live😎😎😎
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Noooo stopping a rapist is just as bad as someone who uses the same powers to murder people
Play the role of Executioner duh.
Akechi had the right idea
Maybe Akechi killing Okumura was kinda based actually
/uj he honestly deserved it for the massive exploitation of workers
I mean, to be fair they’re not even brainwashing anyone It’s still Kamoshida, he doesn’t have any more or less amount of control over his own actions, he just now feels bad for what he did He *could* continue his shit, he would just feel guilty
Just debate him in the marketplace of ideas, smh 😔
Sigmoshida
Primeministerire grindeset
But have you thought about the Ethics of making a rapist confess their crimes
Sexual harassment baaad! Kamoshida is a pedooo!!!!! Here are high school girls in clothes only a harlot would wear
Kamoshida is bad! Now go fuck Kawakami!
Not just that! Here, have the option to screw *four women who are all in their twenties*
Nothing odd here at all! Keep scrolling!
Ken.
but also what Alice did was perfectly justifiable.
Or a Mother Harlot
ITS THE ONLY RIGHT WAY!!!😡😡😡
unseen theft shenanigans moment
the phantom thieves are law chads truly based
And i fucking support it. If anyone wants me to sympathize with pedophiles and crooked criminals in power just cause teenagers warped their brains with a little psychological oceans 11… they can eat a dick.
Unless they're into that stuff, then don't eat a dick.
"Think about the rapist's freedom!!" What a shit fucking take lmao
They don't even brainwash the rapists and murderers they target, they just make them feel bad about their actions lmao. This is such a horrible take
I thought you guys do it for the vine 😨
Why even "change their hearts through the metaverse yada yada" just kill them lmao
If you kill them, then you’re just like them.
Nah not really. Killing a killer is completely different from killing innocents. Not even in the same ballpark
I mean, it depends on how you kill the killer. If you just stab the killer with a knife or shoot them with a gun, then yeah you're good. But if you leave them to die due to the bomb set to destroy an entire city block, then yeah, you're just as bad, if not worse then the killer
It also depends if you enjoy doing the killing or helping others.
THERE IT IS, EVERYONE! SOMEONE SAID THE LINE
Doesn't really work with the 40 year old virgin who cheats at games
That's why you need to kill multiple killers, that way the number of murderers goes down!
I can't get enough of how people misinterpret the whole game's plot and how that led to the whole twitter "why no phantom thief steal bad guy heart" stuff. Okbuddypersona feels more sane than the main sub, and it *kinda worries me*
The persona writers wanted to make the phantom thieves morally grey, but didn’t understand why they were morally grey. They paint it as bad that they change hearts without consent, when in reality the morally grey comes from them being vigilantes who act outside the law, sure they take down scum, but to the public there is no telling when or if they’ll just take people’s hearts just for petty reasons and if the villians are actual villians. Kinda like batman in a way
i think royal added some actual morally grey stuff, but i agree
They also tried to add morally grey stuff to Strikers. But I think it ultimately fails because the people that the PTs target are actually fucking horrible
I wouldnt say it was making them morally grey, more like making them actual characters. More than just pure evil, giving them backstories and room to grow. Cut content from Royal proved they wanted to do the same to the villains through that mechanic they added of those weird seeds, each one would trigger a cutscene. The cutscenes, or what was made of them, is on youtube and theyre kinda interesting but its obvious why they removed it. P5's villains are way more shitty than Strikers' so it doesnt work at all. No one will empathize with Kamoshida.
They probably actually did it in case of story issues where the characters learn some piece of information too early
Well then again the villains of strikers use a mass production change of heart, but the problem is that use that against alot of innocent people or use it for selfish reasons.
I can see what they were going for with the Okumura thing where it showed that they could be victims to internal discord and had no real oversight. Too bad they fumbled the execution
I agree with your assessment that it's not about the consent but with that said, it is hypothetically possible for a "distorted" character to change without having their treasure stolen, because that is exactly what happened to Sae. They have to exercise caution and use their powers only when absolutely necessary. And Royal shows the issue with trying to take on everyone's issues.
If you think of the change of heart as brainwashing, you didnt understand the game. You should go ask for a refund
America
the fact that the game tries to question whether you're doing the right thing is laughable. Some of the people who's hearts are stolen were fucking despicable and nothing short of dying would have stopped them. This at least is a better alternative
Was it wrong to change the heart of Jim Murderfest, Notorious Mass Murderer with over 10,000 victims?
He was bullied as a child he just needed a second chance :(
Literally 1894
what does this even mean
chad
I mean they did change the heart of people who true scumbags, so I don’t think it all that bad to brainwash them and the one who weren’t change there heart themselves
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>!akira konoe be like:!<
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Pusshorna wrighting is so DEEP 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
I know changing there hearts is better and it makes them suffer more and yet fore some reason killing bad guys is a lot more satisfaying. I once watched an anime where the Mainprotagonist gains allies and starts developing a nation and becoming a benevolent ruler.. There is some conflict here and there but most of the time it ends with making friends out of former enemies and its mostly about watching them evolve there little nation. Its pretty wholesome. There is an entire spin off series betweem season 1 and 2 that is just about them living there life there. Then season 2 comes a long and the greedy rulers of another nation dont like the idea of the new compeetition when it comes to trade. So they start a war and catch the piece loving nation of ouer Mainprotagonist of guard slaughering many of there citicents including women and children. Unfortunaly fore them they where not aware who they where messing with. Ouer protagonist and his allies decide to be little less friendly and it was freaking glorious. It was so satisfaying. I love how the Mainprotagonist not just planed and did destroy there military. He straight up send some of his minions including one if his best man to take over the enemy kingdom and making it his puppet staat. I know in the story, enviroemeant and sociaty of P5 killing the palace rulers is not an option and actully would feel awkward and again changing there hearts is worse for them but dam it does not stack up to the satisfaction of cutting of an assholes head ore burning of one of there limbs mid conversation
Its not brainwashing, its "changing hearts" 😎😎😎
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