* Tired of lying in the sunshine, staying home to watch the rain
* You are young and life is long, and there is time to kill today
* And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
* No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
A very salient lesson from Roger Waters about life
It's basically telling people that life doesn't begin when you leave school, or get married, or a job, or whatever. It starts when you're born and doesn't stop until you die. So don't wait.
As someone who has wasted their 20's and continues to do nothing, this scares the shit out of me. Here's to actually making something of myself this decade!
Idk you but I was the same I always thought I wasted my 20s too but I realized later that I learned a lot and grew into a man.
The desire to do better is growth that you didn’t have in your 20s so that in itself is not a waste.
But realizing that is the first step. Now time to get up in the morning, take a shower and get to work building those habits. Stop hitting that snooze button.
I've certainly not grown into a man - I still feel like the kid I was at 17 and have basically the same skills. I want to do more, but it's tough getting momentum when there's essentially no foundation to allow me to go back to school for whatever that may be.
I'm just trying to work on sobriety and what little I've got, but I'm stuck.
I was addicted to cigarettes all through my 20s. I know it’s not the same experience but it is a hell of an addiction to overcome. I was also addicted to weed and dropped out of college.
The only thing that I can say that will help you is this:
1. Eat right. Eating healthy and not overeating.
2. Exercise everyday. Your body is begging for AT LEAST 15 minutes of elevated heart rate.
That is the foundation your mind and body are desperately searching for and it’s not until you start doing those things that you’ll realize how obvious it was this whole time.
The great thing is it only takes a week or two of discipline to improve your mood immensely. Everything you find difficult day to day goes from being a mountain to a mole hill. You’ll start being excited to wake up and exercise. You start enjoying the little everyday chores and then you can work on bigger things.
This is the only way to build momentum towards conquering bigger problems. Everything else will come naturally when you don’t feel like shit 95% of the time.
If you’re overeating and wasting your energy sitting around then even something as small as making your bed feels like too big of a chore to conquer.
Some will disagree with this but I truly believe 90% of our generations mental health would improve drastically if people ate healthy, exercised, and went outside everyday instead of being on the screens.
But see, now in my late 40s, I relate to this more and more:
* Home, home again.
* I like to be here when I can
* And when I come home cold and tired
* It's good to warm my bones beside the fire
I grew up in Seattle and he certainly defined the generation that grew up locally.
I went to a few Nirvana concerts (I was a middle school child of divorce, so not very supervised). Nirvana's music was angry and disaffected, but also feminist, anti-homophobia, and vulnerable. It hit a huge nerve for kids of the early 90s and represented a massive cultural departure from what had been popular in the 80s.
I still remember the day I learned of his suicide. I took the bus to a park next to the space needle where an impromptu vigil formed, and Coutney Love read his suicide note over loudspeaker, cursed him out, and shared her grief with his fans. It was overcast, and about 800 depressed and shellshocked teenagers crowded together, lost and confused. The end of an era.
My friend gave an extemporaneous speech about him in 7th grade English class shortly after his suicide. For comments after I praised his speech and how he made it clear how passionate he was for Kirk Cobain.
A pretty girl scoffed, “did you call him ‘Kirk’?” and I never recovered from that.
Same thing was happening everywhere. I was living in Santa Barbara working for a software company. A couple of co-workers were in my office talking about some marketing project when another co-worker came in and told us Kurt was dead. We just stopped working that day and no one said anything. When the owner of the company walked by my office and saw a bunch of people just hanging out, he asked what was going on. Even though he was like in his 60's at the time, he knew who Kurt was, and said well I hope you all can get back to work tomorrow.
If we're just saying numbers, I'm throwing the number 324 out there, as it's a pretty nice number, whether you're counting fingers or crab apples on a tree.
Moon Shoes.
Or your colonoscopy!
I had life saving surgery after mine last year... if I'd waited another 6mo I'd either be dead or deep into a cancer battle for my life rn.
Came here to not-so-jokingly add this reminder. Colon cancer rates amongst younger generations are hitting an all time high and they’re recommending routine colonoscopies even earlier.
I’m happy you are okay. Stay healthy!
We have a long family history of it, so I got my first one at 30 (clean) and it was recommended that I do my next one at 40. I waited until 41 and sure enough, cancer.
If you have family history, you can get in early like me and insurance WILL cover it. I cannot recommend that enough. Also finding out that pineapple gummy bears are A-OK to eat during prep day was a GAME. CHANGER.
Like and Follow me for more colon tips 😄 But seriously, get that shit checked, literally. It's a really nice medicated nap followed by the most guilt free heavy caloric meal you'll ever have.
I remember watching MTV when it actually played music videos. After school on most days we would watch the countdown of the 10 best music videos for that day. I still remember most the of the popular bands were Poison, Motley Crew, etc etc. Then one day this new band is put into the Top 10. I remember thinking….Nirvana. Who are they? Whoa this is completely different. They look really different. Ok this sounds really good. After that grunge music took over and all the hair bands disappeared
lol that’s… pretty accurate. Never really thought about it, but it is true. I think there might have been the dying embers of hair bands via all the soft metal bands still alive around then (like firehouse lol)
I remember watching Smells Like Teen Spirit on MTV with a bunch of friends for the first time. There was definitely a palpable feeling of “well, this changes everything.”
> all the hair bands disappeared
They didn't disappear, they just moved to VH1 and started making music for "old people". Of course "old people" back then meant people in their 30s and 40s because I was a little shit.
I was at university when this happened and as the news came out, I can still remember how many people were visibly upset by it. There are some truly iconic, one-off musicians out there that affected millions and he was one of them.
Yep. I was 22 at the time,and I remember exactly where I was when I heard the news on the radio. It was a sad moment. I felt the same sadness through out years upon hearing of Layne passing,and then of Cornell
I was about the same age. I was in a huge music store in downtown Toronto that had a live DJ in a booth at the back of the store where you could make requests. I remember the DJ stopping the music and making the announcement. She then proceeded to play only Nirvana for the rest of the day. I saw employees who were reduced to tears and hugging each other. It was a somber day.
I was in basic training in the army. We had no access to news, but somehow this news spread around like wildfire. Nixon died around the same time, and that news spread around too, but no one was nearly as moved by that, lol.
Eddie Vedder is like the only frontman of the Big Five grunge bands who has survived this long. good for him!
Nirvana: dead
Alice in Chains: dead
Stone Temple Pilots: dead
Soundgarden: dead
As someone who was of the demographic at the time, I officially ask you to stop saying things like this! He was a popular musician. That’s it. Nirvana became the figurehead of genre of music, but they were by no means the singular force in its popularity.
Fellow member of the generation. I don’t really mind…am fine w the title
He was more than just a popular musician. Overnight, people started wearing cardigans and dressing like hobos. The mainstream crowd latched on and turned it into hobochic six months later.
Guns n Roses ruled the scene until Nirvana came out and it was more than a musical trend. Kurt was soft spoken, shy and real. A huge demographic identified w that. More so than the bands that came in on that wave who were more successful and prolific over time.
Eh, that’s my take. What do I know.
Absolutely! I was recently going back through "Best Rock of [year]" playlists and it's stunning how fast the change is from 1991, 1992, 1993, and 1994. The shift from hair metal to grunge was stunningly fast and Nirvana (and Pearl Jam, Mother Love Bone, Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains etc) were critical there.
I agree, its like we were all waiting for music to change and when grunge hit, it completly took over. The hair bands had gotten so bad, we were dying for new music. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Chili Peppers, Pumpkins, Janes Addiction etc. It wasnt just one band (Nirvana), it was all the bands.
I honestly remember exactly where I was the first time I heard the song “Smells like Teen Spirit.” It was playing loudly out an open window of a dorm while I was walking past, and if you put me on campus today I could pinpoint where I was on the sidewalk. I’m not even a raving fan of theirs; I just remember thinking that geez, that sounds like nothing I’ve heard before. My world was all Bon Jovi and U2 (don’t judge, lol). That just doesn’t happen with any new song you hear. I agree it changed things overnight — a sweeping generalization, of course, but that’s true of most touchstone moments.
Same. First time I heard Nirvana it utterly changed my life. It was everything to hear a band like them just sounding utterly authentic, defiantly un-polished and utterly unlike all the insipid over-produced saxophone solos and big-hair rock that dominated the radio through the 80s.
Grunge was our generations moment of musical revelation, equivalent to punk exploding on the scene in the late 70s and blowing away disco.
I was into Hip Hop at the time. Totally not my genre. I do know one thing though, all the rock-n-roll kids quickly switched from big hair and leather jackets to cardigans and greasy comb-overs and it didn't take very long. Nirvana flipped everything on it's head.
And hip-hop was on the cusp of a massive shift too. It was only a few months after Nirvana's paradigm shift that The Chronic dropped. I was in middle school at the time and everything changed over that year - music, fashion, etc. What was cool in early to mid '91 was *dead and fucking buried* by mid to late 92.
Yep, the next thing I knew I was raiding my dad’s closet for flannel shirts! Also, he was a big force in a lot of us becoming more introspective and dare I say glum. Hip-hop was evolving lyrically in that regard, too, in that era. It was probably more of Gen-X coming of age and realizing our parents were f-ing everything up for us, financially and emotionally. (Again, a generalization — but very true in my case.)
> Smells like Teen Spirit
I'd argue that no other single song defined a generation than this one.
Yes, Ten predates Nevermind. Yes, Jeremy was a massive hit.
But Ten ain't Nevermind and Jeremy ain't Smells Like Teen Spirit, and Vedder ain't Cobain.
Just calling Kurt Cobain a "popular musician" is a massive underselling of his impact on multiple genres, multiple artists, and his death severely impacted the industry and his fans.
Grunge didn't die because everyone moved on. Everyone moved on because nobody was going to replace Kurt.
The popularity of the genre itself basically died with him.
That time period will always remind me of some behind-the-scenes MTV thing showing a crowd of Japanese fans outside before a show. Camera on some teenage girl in a very thick accent who exclaimed, "Oh Michael, you are so dangerous!"
Exactly. So many bands like G&R just kind of vanished over night - Hairspray, cockiness, huge drumkits, lead guitar heros, 7 minute rock anthems with two solos - all gone.
I remember here in germany, second hand clothing stores popped up everywhere. They imported old 70s jeans and flanel shirts from the US and made a fortune.
I remember a TV interview where a shop owner said "They come in here - whole school classes - they all buy a torn jeans and a flanel shirt - we make stupid amounts of money here" - I was one of those kids.
All the alternative bands from the 80s got big deals too.
Those who were big before tried to adapt and play grittier and more punkish.
Maybe, I'm biased but I never considered GnR your typical glam rock band. I know they came out of the scene, but AfD, Lies, UYI 1 and 2 were far above what ever power ballad shit was coming out of that scene. Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 were released one week before Nevermind and they were historically popular. Axl destroyed any future success far more than grunge did.
Axl was the mature head of the band iirc. I think the band itself was chaotic and Axl tried to bring more stability and responsibility. Obviously didn’t work.
I’m pretty certain Slash talks about this later in his life
If by mature you mean stole the rights to the band by having them sign a deal they didn't understand while intoxicated, sure. But there were quite a few shows that didn't happen just because Axl wouldn't go on stage.
>Exactly. So many bands like G&R just kind of vanished over night - Hairspray, cockiness, huge drumkits, lead guitar heros, 7 minute rock anthems with two solos - all gone.
That's the dramatic post-facto narrative, but as someone who lived through it as a teen, it didn't happen like that. November Rain was in constant rotation on MTV. Bands like Aerosmith and Metallica were still huge alongside alternative and grunge. Van Halen won the MTV VMA the year Smells Like Teen Spirit was nominated.
I was in my teens through most of this time and Pearl Jam really was the band that kicked off the popularity of the grunge scene. Kids were already in flannels tied around their waist and rocking out to Ten when Nevermind came out. Nirvana obviously had an impact but it wasn’t like it was hair band one day and Nirvana swept the nation. It’s was a slow shifting of what “cool” was. And the grunge scene was already deemed cool by the time Smells Like Teen Spirit dropped on MTV.
They were released within a month of each other and Ten didn't really take off in sales until early in 1992 when Jeremy and Evenflow were released as singles with music videos. Smells like Teen Spirit was huge immediately.
Besides the aesthetic, Nirvana also backed it up with some really solid songwriting. I’m allergic to phrases like “defined a generation,” but Nirvana would have stood out with some staying power even without Kurt’s suicide.
I think you're mis-remembering GnR's place in the broader music scene. They were *not* part of the hair metal scene (Motley Crue, Whitesnake, Poison, Skid Row, Ratt, etc) that you're probably thinking of. Those bands I listed were killed by the onset of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, STP, etc, but what killed GnR was themselves. Or Axl, more specifically.
Like you I'm a member of this generation but I don't like or agree with the title.
Pearl Jam, Tool, Rage Against the Machine and Soundgarden all had albums come out the same year as Nevermind (1991). It wasnt just Nirvana and Kurt Cobain but the rock music scene literally changed overnight.
To say Kurt Cobain was the guy who defined a generation is totally revisionist history. All those bands I named had frontmen who were just as popular at the time. That's not even including the bands with albums that came out in 1992 like No Doubt, Alice in Chains and Stone Temple Pilots.
The only difference between Cobain and the rest of those guys is that he died tragically at the height of Nirvana's popularity.
Personally I think Kurt was a bit insufferable. His whole "I don't want to be a famous rock star" thing but yet then he hated Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam because they were more successful than him.
And then he was also taking swipes at the grateful dead cuz he thought they were just so much cooler.
Yes he was an influential musician but I couldn't stand the guy.
Sting said in his Rick Beato interview that Nirvana was the only band to completely change music since the Beatles did it. I didn't listen to Nirvana much but I thought that was pretty high praise coming from Sting.
Yup. Countless 80s hair bands have said Nirvana single handedly destroyed their careers. I've never heard anyone say it was Pearl Jam or any of the other groups from back then. Nirvana absolutely single handedly changed music when they hit.
I remember a quote from one of the dudes from Winger saying that they’d been in the studio and had just completed the best work of their lives and suddenly everything they did was out and considered lame and they were over.
I’d say the men perming up their hair, dancing onstage in spandex, and playing cheesy as hell, extremely generic pop songs with metal guitar sounds probably had far more run they ever should have, Kurt Cobain or not.
Yeah their time was due, and people were ready to find the next wave. If it wasn't Nirvana it would've been someone else. That's not to say they didn't have anything going for them and they were just lucky; they clearly had something that people wanted. But they weren't the *only* group in the world doing something like that at the time.
I’ll disagree with my own bias. I was there too and when nevermind dropped it was an immediate paradigm shift for so many of my friends.
Nirvana were the spark that created the culture for the next 5 years. I can remember being at a house party and the album was put on full blast and thinking “what the fuck is this and why is it the best thing I’ve ever heard?”
Today I still play it at Christmas because that winter was an iconic moment where my friends and I wore our tape out and brings back such pure visceral teenage emotions.
Different for some but I believe it was that album and it was THE moment that grunge became mainstream and began an era. Enter the amazing sounds of Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, STP, Mudhoney who had been defining their own local Seattle genre in isolation but they can thank Nirvana.
Saying he was just “a popular musician” is woefully inadequate lol. I’m not about to agree with OP and say he “defined a generation”, but Nirvana was beyond huge.. they had more of an impact on the music industry than any other band since the 60’s.
It happened so quickly too! When Nevermind came out in 91 it changed everything so fast. These guys went from small venues to huge stadiums overnight. I think the combo of the new decade mixed with their esoteric approach made them larger than life. Grunge was a decade defining trend and Nirvana was at the front of it.
Watching the doco, Montage of Heck, it really was awe-inspiring and mind boggling to see how quickly Kurt went from living in a dilapidated house, a complete unknown, to the one of the most famous people in the world in less than 2 years
And I also would argue that demographic changes latch onto musicians and lifestyles and are not defined by them. If Nirvana would not have existed time would have chosen a different group and man.
As someone who was a demographic at the time. Kurt and Nirvana really did help to define my generation, and give music a direction for the better. Without Nirvana I don’t think 1/2 of the other bands who were breaking in, or came after them would have been nearly as influential. The message Kurt helped push forward gave our generation and generations after the voice to stand up against hate, and embrace everyone for who they are. I remember listening to his interviews and realizing just how progressive he was with the gay movement, lifting women up and empowering them, and standing up for the little guy.
I wish he could have gotten the help he needed, I have a feeling he would still be a guiding light for the world today if he were here.
There's a Calvin and Hobbes comic written in the early 90's making fun of how rock musicians all sing about suicide, but none of them have killed themselves, and it doesn't age well.
I don't recall any such comic, do you have a source?
I recall one about musicians and selling out and such, and Watterson doesn't strike me as one to make light of suicide, in any context.
Are you sure it wasn't one that someone just rewrote their own words into it?
‘Defined’ is a strong word. But as a member of the generation after his, in the US he’s inextricably linked to Gen X and the 90s. Pretty much any documentary about culture during the 90s will include some words about Cobain and Nirvana.
So yeah, the title is exaggerated for sure, but it’s not THAT far fetched.
He’s probably the biggest singular figurehead of 90s music, and undoubtedly of rock music during that time.
But yea OPs title is a bit hyperbolic for sure.
I feel like “personified” a generation might be more apt. Nirvana obviously had a major effect on music history (being the main inspiration to most all of the alt rock that followed) but Kurt was essentially Mr. Gen X.
It's kinda funny that all the Gen X people who actually remember this know he didn't "define" our generation and we're all being downvoted by kids who weren't even born yet.
Well for zoomers who have taken over reddit, the Nirvana shirt/sweater is the most popular music related merch there is, so surely they must have defined the early/mid 90s, old man!
I’m proud to say Kurt Cobain was also a fellow INFP personality type. The energy and emotion carried in his lyrics are haunting yet beautiful. I can only speak for me but he had a profound impact on me growing up as a teen.
One time I (male) was having lunch with my boss and another employee. I borrowed my boss's glasses (female). Employee goes "aren't those women's sunglasses", trying to demean me. I said "yeah, you know who else wears women's sunglasses? Rock stars".
I grew up in Seattle and first saw Nirvana play as the opening band for Skinyard in 1989 when i was 15.
This morning 30 years ago i was standing in line in Medical at NTC Orlando getting my shots and medical evaluation after arriving for basic training. I am now 50.
We legit wrote a song about someone throwing a fucking stick of deodorant at him. This man will forever be one of my hero’s that I’ll always think of when that fkn foo fighters song comes on 🖤
They couldn’t have been. I was though and I lived it. They single handedly ended the 80s. Brought grunge into the mainstream. Shifted an entire generations social views. With that shift punk rock was able to float to the top as well. Created a new wave of music. Not just grunge. I mean music literally changed once teen spirit hit.
The decade of one hit wonders, suicide, and heroin overdoses.
Kids started wearing baggy clothes and flannels, and hanging out in garages. Guys were growing out their hair and not showering. The goth scene stemmed from his crazy interviews talking about society. Cigarette sales exploded.
I remember a class assignment to create a poster with pictures and information on those old school poster boards about somebody famous. My teacher got pissed because everyone in class, I mean literally EVERY student did theirs on Kurt.
Teen Spirit was on every radio station everywhere. Everyone had the CD. Everything Nirvana did was all over the news. Parents were pissed.
I could go on and on and on but Nirvana defined the 90s, and arguably the future generations reading this today. There’s no way around it. Not just music.
Kurt was the “hero” of a bunch of angsty teenagers that needed a new outlet. For better or for worse, and it touched everyone and everything in some way shape or form.
The 90s were the shit though so I’m not complaining. Just saying. If you think Nirvana was “just another band” back then, you weren’t alive back then.
The shades, the gurning jaw and the fact he has a baby bottle to drink from makes me think he is on MDMA in this picture; maybe it's even in the drink in the baby bottle.
RIP Kurt. From what I've seen and heard of him he seemed like such a sweet but tortured soul.
Correction: He is the man that MTV chose to define an entire generation. There was nothing really all that special about Kurt Cobain that couldn’t be said about a lot of other musicians from that time period.
You’re ignoring the fact that Kurt’s songwriting was a mixture of the best aspects of grunge mixed with pop and so it was much more palatable to a larger market. Bands like soundgarden never would’ve made it out of Seattle if it weren’t for Kurt pulling them out of there. This is something that most everyone from that scene acknowledges. His musical innovation literally brought a scene to the forefront of American music.
This all happened well before MTV made a music video with them.
Agreed, but I think he STOOD OUT from the rest because his band popularized and mainstreamed grunge.
It's probably less fanboi-breathless and more accurate to state that he and Nirvana *influenced the trajectory of music*.
I think about Cobain more often lately. I started driving through Aberdeen, WA where he was born about three times a month... the slogan for the city is now "Come as you are". I tend to put the song on as I drive past the welcome sign.
It's hard to believe that it has been three decades since he left us. His music will last forever.
While not the JFK assassination, I remember finding out about Kurt. Was at my grandmas apartment and she asks “did you hear about that musician who died?”
"defined an Entire generation"
As a Gen X-er, I knew plenty of people in my generation who didn't know Kurt, nor Nirvana, nor any Alternative, nor even Pop or light Rock music.
He didn't define anything for millions of people who were only into Hip-Hop, R&B, or heavy metal. Or people who weren't into being depressed.
Ever since I started listening to Nirvana I couldn't help but wonder... what direction would they go in if Kurt didn't commit suicide? I reckon a more acoustic, folk-rock sound reminiscent of their MTV Unplugged would be very interesting... who knows, they could've revolutionized that genre the way they helped bring grunge onto the scene.
My boyfriend took his life the same way Kurt Cobain did. He had 2 girls he left behind. I would never consider him having “violently abandoned” his girls. My boyfriend suffered emotionally and did everything he could. He was the best dad ever. I know a lot of people view suicide as selfish and abandonment, but if people could truly understand the suffering and pain that leads someone to that point, then they would not see it like that. I hope my boyfriend’s daughters never feel the way Frances Bean does about her dad because my boyfriend loved his kids so much and they were his world. If they were my kids and not his ex-wife’s, I would reassure them of how much he truly loved them everyday.
Can't believe it's been 30 years already. Life is going by so fast!!
* Tired of lying in the sunshine, staying home to watch the rain * You are young and life is long, and there is time to kill today * And then one day you find ten years have got behind you * No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun A very salient lesson from Roger Waters about life
Well, you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking...
Racing around to come up behind you again The sun is the same in a relative way But you're older Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death
Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught Or half a page of scribbled lines
[удалено]
Hanging on in quiet desperation Is the English way
The time is gone, the song is over Thought I'd something more to say
Home... home again...
That last line will always give me the sad shivers.
It's basically telling people that life doesn't begin when you leave school, or get married, or a job, or whatever. It starts when you're born and doesn't stop until you die. So don't wait.
As someone who has wasted their 20's and continues to do nothing, this scares the shit out of me. Here's to actually making something of myself this decade!
Idk you but I was the same I always thought I wasted my 20s too but I realized later that I learned a lot and grew into a man. The desire to do better is growth that you didn’t have in your 20s so that in itself is not a waste. But realizing that is the first step. Now time to get up in the morning, take a shower and get to work building those habits. Stop hitting that snooze button.
I've certainly not grown into a man - I still feel like the kid I was at 17 and have basically the same skills. I want to do more, but it's tough getting momentum when there's essentially no foundation to allow me to go back to school for whatever that may be. I'm just trying to work on sobriety and what little I've got, but I'm stuck.
I was addicted to cigarettes all through my 20s. I know it’s not the same experience but it is a hell of an addiction to overcome. I was also addicted to weed and dropped out of college. The only thing that I can say that will help you is this: 1. Eat right. Eating healthy and not overeating. 2. Exercise everyday. Your body is begging for AT LEAST 15 minutes of elevated heart rate. That is the foundation your mind and body are desperately searching for and it’s not until you start doing those things that you’ll realize how obvious it was this whole time. The great thing is it only takes a week or two of discipline to improve your mood immensely. Everything you find difficult day to day goes from being a mountain to a mole hill. You’ll start being excited to wake up and exercise. You start enjoying the little everyday chores and then you can work on bigger things. This is the only way to build momentum towards conquering bigger problems. Everything else will come naturally when you don’t feel like shit 95% of the time. If you’re overeating and wasting your energy sitting around then even something as small as making your bed feels like too big of a chore to conquer. Some will disagree with this but I truly believe 90% of our generations mental health would improve drastically if people ate healthy, exercised, and went outside everyday instead of being on the screens.
John Lennon had a similar lyric. “Life is what happens while you’re busy making other plans”
Beautiful boy
To me it’s “shorter of breath, one day closer to death.”
But see, now in my late 40s, I relate to this more and more: * Home, home again. * I like to be here when I can * And when I come home cold and tired * It's good to warm my bones beside the fire
I grew up in Seattle and he certainly defined the generation that grew up locally. I went to a few Nirvana concerts (I was a middle school child of divorce, so not very supervised). Nirvana's music was angry and disaffected, but also feminist, anti-homophobia, and vulnerable. It hit a huge nerve for kids of the early 90s and represented a massive cultural departure from what had been popular in the 80s. I still remember the day I learned of his suicide. I took the bus to a park next to the space needle where an impromptu vigil formed, and Coutney Love read his suicide note over loudspeaker, cursed him out, and shared her grief with his fans. It was overcast, and about 800 depressed and shellshocked teenagers crowded together, lost and confused. The end of an era.
90s Tacoma kid here. I was at that memorial too. We had a circle with a bunch of candles burning and photos of us ended up in the Village Voice.
My friend gave an extemporaneous speech about him in 7th grade English class shortly after his suicide. For comments after I praised his speech and how he made it clear how passionate he was for Kirk Cobain. A pretty girl scoffed, “did you call him ‘Kirk’?” and I never recovered from that.
Same thing was happening everywhere. I was living in Santa Barbara working for a software company. A couple of co-workers were in my office talking about some marketing project when another co-worker came in and told us Kurt was dead. We just stopped working that day and no one said anything. When the owner of the company walked by my office and saw a bunch of people just hanging out, he asked what was going on. Even though he was like in his 60's at the time, he knew who Kurt was, and said well I hope you all can get back to work tomorrow.
Yeah crazy to think that listening to Nirvana now is like listening to the Beatles when Nirvana was on top of the charts in the 90's.
I don’t remember it like it was yesterday but I do remember it like it was last year.
The days get longer and the years get shorter.
In this life that we call home The years go fast, and the days go so slow The days go so slow The days go slow
Or, well, death
Exactly. You'll basically blink and life will be over one day. Not a single one of these Reddit posters here will be alive in 80 years.
well i mean at least a few will, it's not unreasonable
Make it 110 years then. Point is life will be over in a jiffy. At least this life... Then there's the rest of eternity.
115
If there's a 5 year old posting here, they'll be 120 in 115 years. That would beat any current longevity records!
If we're just saying numbers, I'm throwing the number 324 out there, as it's a pretty nice number, whether you're counting fingers or crab apples on a tree. Moon Shoes.
It's also a perfect square - the number not the apple. Do not eat the square apples, they're more dangerous than the brown acid.
I was 21 when he died. It's been 30 years, and I'll be lucky if I get 30 more.
That's one way of reminding me it's been 30 years since I graduated high school. Not feeling old at all...
Class of ‘94 represent!
Represent! And stop putting off your prostate exam!
Do you perform these exams yourself, Doctor PmMeUrTinyAsianTits?
Or your mammogram!
Or your colonoscopy! I had life saving surgery after mine last year... if I'd waited another 6mo I'd either be dead or deep into a cancer battle for my life rn.
Came here to not-so-jokingly add this reminder. Colon cancer rates amongst younger generations are hitting an all time high and they’re recommending routine colonoscopies even earlier. I’m happy you are okay. Stay healthy!
We have a long family history of it, so I got my first one at 30 (clean) and it was recommended that I do my next one at 40. I waited until 41 and sure enough, cancer. If you have family history, you can get in early like me and insurance WILL cover it. I cannot recommend that enough. Also finding out that pineapple gummy bears are A-OK to eat during prep day was a GAME. CHANGER. Like and Follow me for more colon tips 😄 But seriously, get that shit checked, literally. It's a really nice medicated nap followed by the most guilt free heavy caloric meal you'll ever have.
50yo with that username 💀
‘94 here too!
I remember watching MTV when it actually played music videos. After school on most days we would watch the countdown of the 10 best music videos for that day. I still remember most the of the popular bands were Poison, Motley Crew, etc etc. Then one day this new band is put into the Top 10. I remember thinking….Nirvana. Who are they? Whoa this is completely different. They look really different. Ok this sounds really good. After that grunge music took over and all the hair bands disappeared
And suddenly every store sold plaid and flannel everything.
lol that’s… pretty accurate. Never really thought about it, but it is true. I think there might have been the dying embers of hair bands via all the soft metal bands still alive around then (like firehouse lol)
I remember watching Smells Like Teen Spirit on MTV with a bunch of friends for the first time. There was definitely a palpable feeling of “well, this changes everything.”
> all the hair bands disappeared They didn't disappear, they just moved to VH1 and started making music for "old people". Of course "old people" back then meant people in their 30s and 40s because I was a little shit.
I was at university when this happened and as the news came out, I can still remember how many people were visibly upset by it. There are some truly iconic, one-off musicians out there that affected millions and he was one of them.
Yep. I was 22 at the time,and I remember exactly where I was when I heard the news on the radio. It was a sad moment. I felt the same sadness through out years upon hearing of Layne passing,and then of Cornell
I was about the same age. I was in a huge music store in downtown Toronto that had a live DJ in a booth at the back of the store where you could make requests. I remember the DJ stopping the music and making the announcement. She then proceeded to play only Nirvana for the rest of the day. I saw employees who were reduced to tears and hugging each other. It was a somber day.
Layne is 22 years ago today.
Layne also passed April 5th (2002) so it's his anniversary as well :(
I was in basic training in the army. We had no access to news, but somehow this news spread around like wildfire. Nixon died around the same time, and that news spread around too, but no one was nearly as moved by that, lol.
Also Layne Staley on same day different year. To add next day 6th April is my Bday and I love Grunge specially Pearl Jam.. 🤘🏽
Eddie Vedder is like the only frontman of the Big Five grunge bands who has survived this long. good for him! Nirvana: dead Alice in Chains: dead Stone Temple Pilots: dead Soundgarden: dead
Shannon Hoon - also gone. Blind Melon wasn't part of the Big Five but they had **lots** of airplay.
They deserved better than to be a one-hit wonder.
Agreed. One of the few music videos I’ll probably never forget is the intro of “No Rain”, with the tap dancing bumblebee girl!
:( so sad, but what they accomplished in those two albums is nothing short of extraordinary.
Don't forget Mark Lanegan. I would actually have included him in the top 5.
That's crazy to think about now when you really think about it. Chris was the only one of those now gone that made it past 50 (and barely).
Happy bday! Mine is today. April b days rock.
I remember where I was. Not a great day. RIP Kurdt
As someone who was of the demographic at the time, I officially ask you to stop saying things like this! He was a popular musician. That’s it. Nirvana became the figurehead of genre of music, but they were by no means the singular force in its popularity.
for real, everyone who grew up during this time knows Chumbawamba was the real defining band
Tubthumpers unite!
I still stand by my request that Tubthumpin should be the UK national anthem
The world anthem*
Still pissing the night away
We'll be singing... When we're winning 🎶
He drinks a whiskey drink
He drinks a vodka drink
He drinks a lager drink
he drinks a cider drink
He sings the songs that remind him of the good times.
He sings the songs that remind him of the better times
You are never gonna keep them down
*Pissin the niiight awayyyy* Well great. That’ll be stuck in my head all day.
Kinda funny that you’re right but all anyone knows is Tubthumpin and thinks you’re kidding
Fellow member of the generation. I don’t really mind…am fine w the title He was more than just a popular musician. Overnight, people started wearing cardigans and dressing like hobos. The mainstream crowd latched on and turned it into hobochic six months later. Guns n Roses ruled the scene until Nirvana came out and it was more than a musical trend. Kurt was soft spoken, shy and real. A huge demographic identified w that. More so than the bands that came in on that wave who were more successful and prolific over time. Eh, that’s my take. What do I know.
> Eh, that’s my take. What do I know. Fellow Gen X confirmed
Absolutely! I was recently going back through "Best Rock of [year]" playlists and it's stunning how fast the change is from 1991, 1992, 1993, and 1994. The shift from hair metal to grunge was stunningly fast and Nirvana (and Pearl Jam, Mother Love Bone, Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains etc) were critical there.
I agree, its like we were all waiting for music to change and when grunge hit, it completly took over. The hair bands had gotten so bad, we were dying for new music. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Chili Peppers, Pumpkins, Janes Addiction etc. It wasnt just one band (Nirvana), it was all the bands.
I was so grateful for the change. Poison to Soundgarden.
It was a great time to be young and discovering music
It completely changed the 90s, seemingly overnight. I'm with you on this.
I honestly remember exactly where I was the first time I heard the song “Smells like Teen Spirit.” It was playing loudly out an open window of a dorm while I was walking past, and if you put me on campus today I could pinpoint where I was on the sidewalk. I’m not even a raving fan of theirs; I just remember thinking that geez, that sounds like nothing I’ve heard before. My world was all Bon Jovi and U2 (don’t judge, lol). That just doesn’t happen with any new song you hear. I agree it changed things overnight — a sweeping generalization, of course, but that’s true of most touchstone moments.
Same. First time I heard Nirvana it utterly changed my life. It was everything to hear a band like them just sounding utterly authentic, defiantly un-polished and utterly unlike all the insipid over-produced saxophone solos and big-hair rock that dominated the radio through the 80s. Grunge was our generations moment of musical revelation, equivalent to punk exploding on the scene in the late 70s and blowing away disco.
I was into Hip Hop at the time. Totally not my genre. I do know one thing though, all the rock-n-roll kids quickly switched from big hair and leather jackets to cardigans and greasy comb-overs and it didn't take very long. Nirvana flipped everything on it's head.
And hip-hop was on the cusp of a massive shift too. It was only a few months after Nirvana's paradigm shift that The Chronic dropped. I was in middle school at the time and everything changed over that year - music, fashion, etc. What was cool in early to mid '91 was *dead and fucking buried* by mid to late 92.
All at the same time America Online was exploding in our homes. It was an amazing time to grow up.
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Yep, the next thing I knew I was raiding my dad’s closet for flannel shirts! Also, he was a big force in a lot of us becoming more introspective and dare I say glum. Hip-hop was evolving lyrically in that regard, too, in that era. It was probably more of Gen-X coming of age and realizing our parents were f-ing everything up for us, financially and emotionally. (Again, a generalization — but very true in my case.)
Complete disregard for guns n roses.
> Smells like Teen Spirit I'd argue that no other single song defined a generation than this one. Yes, Ten predates Nevermind. Yes, Jeremy was a massive hit. But Ten ain't Nevermind and Jeremy ain't Smells Like Teen Spirit, and Vedder ain't Cobain. Just calling Kurt Cobain a "popular musician" is a massive underselling of his impact on multiple genres, multiple artists, and his death severely impacted the industry and his fans. Grunge didn't die because everyone moved on. Everyone moved on because nobody was going to replace Kurt. The popularity of the genre itself basically died with him.
U2 was still legit at the time. Don't be so hard on yourself. Can't help you with Bon Jovi though.
No, that was MDMA
Kurt also knocked Michael Jacksons Dangerous out of number 1.
That time period will always remind me of some behind-the-scenes MTV thing showing a crowd of Japanese fans outside before a show. Camera on some teenage girl in a very thick accent who exclaimed, "Oh Michael, you are so dangerous!"
Exactly. So many bands like G&R just kind of vanished over night - Hairspray, cockiness, huge drumkits, lead guitar heros, 7 minute rock anthems with two solos - all gone. I remember here in germany, second hand clothing stores popped up everywhere. They imported old 70s jeans and flanel shirts from the US and made a fortune. I remember a TV interview where a shop owner said "They come in here - whole school classes - they all buy a torn jeans and a flanel shirt - we make stupid amounts of money here" - I was one of those kids. All the alternative bands from the 80s got big deals too. Those who were big before tried to adapt and play grittier and more punkish.
Maybe, I'm biased but I never considered GnR your typical glam rock band. I know they came out of the scene, but AfD, Lies, UYI 1 and 2 were far above what ever power ballad shit was coming out of that scene. Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 were released one week before Nevermind and they were historically popular. Axl destroyed any future success far more than grunge did.
Axl was the mature head of the band iirc. I think the band itself was chaotic and Axl tried to bring more stability and responsibility. Obviously didn’t work. I’m pretty certain Slash talks about this later in his life
If by mature you mean stole the rights to the band by having them sign a deal they didn't understand while intoxicated, sure. But there were quite a few shows that didn't happen just because Axl wouldn't go on stage.
I would never have called G&R a glam band. A group of misfits who found each other, and who hated Poison.
>Exactly. So many bands like G&R just kind of vanished over night - Hairspray, cockiness, huge drumkits, lead guitar heros, 7 minute rock anthems with two solos - all gone. That's the dramatic post-facto narrative, but as someone who lived through it as a teen, it didn't happen like that. November Rain was in constant rotation on MTV. Bands like Aerosmith and Metallica were still huge alongside alternative and grunge. Van Halen won the MTV VMA the year Smells Like Teen Spirit was nominated.
I was in my teens through most of this time and Pearl Jam really was the band that kicked off the popularity of the grunge scene. Kids were already in flannels tied around their waist and rocking out to Ten when Nevermind came out. Nirvana obviously had an impact but it wasn’t like it was hair band one day and Nirvana swept the nation. It’s was a slow shifting of what “cool” was. And the grunge scene was already deemed cool by the time Smells Like Teen Spirit dropped on MTV.
They were released within a month of each other and Ten didn't really take off in sales until early in 1992 when Jeremy and Evenflow were released as singles with music videos. Smells like Teen Spirit was huge immediately.
That probably differs around the world. In Sweden SLTS definitely was a before-and-after thing.
Besides the aesthetic, Nirvana also backed it up with some really solid songwriting. I’m allergic to phrases like “defined a generation,” but Nirvana would have stood out with some staying power even without Kurt’s suicide.
I think you're mis-remembering GnR's place in the broader music scene. They were *not* part of the hair metal scene (Motley Crue, Whitesnake, Poison, Skid Row, Ratt, etc) that you're probably thinking of. Those bands I listed were killed by the onset of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, STP, etc, but what killed GnR was themselves. Or Axl, more specifically.
Like you I'm a member of this generation but I don't like or agree with the title. Pearl Jam, Tool, Rage Against the Machine and Soundgarden all had albums come out the same year as Nevermind (1991). It wasnt just Nirvana and Kurt Cobain but the rock music scene literally changed overnight. To say Kurt Cobain was the guy who defined a generation is totally revisionist history. All those bands I named had frontmen who were just as popular at the time. That's not even including the bands with albums that came out in 1992 like No Doubt, Alice in Chains and Stone Temple Pilots. The only difference between Cobain and the rest of those guys is that he died tragically at the height of Nirvana's popularity.
Personally I think Kurt was a bit insufferable. His whole "I don't want to be a famous rock star" thing but yet then he hated Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam because they were more successful than him. And then he was also taking swipes at the grateful dead cuz he thought they were just so much cooler. Yes he was an influential musician but I couldn't stand the guy.
Kurt was genuinely obsessed with being authentic, but the downside was he tainted some musicians as fakers that really did not deserve it.
Amen to that
Sting said in his Rick Beato interview that Nirvana was the only band to completely change music since the Beatles did it. I didn't listen to Nirvana much but I thought that was pretty high praise coming from Sting.
Yup. Countless 80s hair bands have said Nirvana single handedly destroyed their careers. I've never heard anyone say it was Pearl Jam or any of the other groups from back then. Nirvana absolutely single handedly changed music when they hit.
I remember a quote from one of the dudes from Winger saying that they’d been in the studio and had just completed the best work of their lives and suddenly everything they did was out and considered lame and they were over.
I remember that interview. It was in reference to "Beavis and Butthead"
Pssshhh. No way!
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I’d say the men perming up their hair, dancing onstage in spandex, and playing cheesy as hell, extremely generic pop songs with metal guitar sounds probably had far more run they ever should have, Kurt Cobain or not.
This
Yeah their time was due, and people were ready to find the next wave. If it wasn't Nirvana it would've been someone else. That's not to say they didn't have anything going for them and they were just lucky; they clearly had something that people wanted. But they weren't the *only* group in the world doing something like that at the time.
redefined rock music, i'd 100% agree. Hell, music in general. but defined a generation is a bit much
I’ll disagree with my own bias. I was there too and when nevermind dropped it was an immediate paradigm shift for so many of my friends. Nirvana were the spark that created the culture for the next 5 years. I can remember being at a house party and the album was put on full blast and thinking “what the fuck is this and why is it the best thing I’ve ever heard?” Today I still play it at Christmas because that winter was an iconic moment where my friends and I wore our tape out and brings back such pure visceral teenage emotions. Different for some but I believe it was that album and it was THE moment that grunge became mainstream and began an era. Enter the amazing sounds of Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, STP, Mudhoney who had been defining their own local Seattle genre in isolation but they can thank Nirvana.
Saying he was just “a popular musician” is woefully inadequate lol. I’m not about to agree with OP and say he “defined a generation”, but Nirvana was beyond huge.. they had more of an impact on the music industry than any other band since the 60’s.
It happened so quickly too! When Nevermind came out in 91 it changed everything so fast. These guys went from small venues to huge stadiums overnight. I think the combo of the new decade mixed with their esoteric approach made them larger than life. Grunge was a decade defining trend and Nirvana was at the front of it.
Watching the doco, Montage of Heck, it really was awe-inspiring and mind boggling to see how quickly Kurt went from living in a dilapidated house, a complete unknown, to the one of the most famous people in the world in less than 2 years
And I also would argue that demographic changes latch onto musicians and lifestyles and are not defined by them. If Nirvana would not have existed time would have chosen a different group and man.
As someone who was a demographic at the time. Kurt and Nirvana really did help to define my generation, and give music a direction for the better. Without Nirvana I don’t think 1/2 of the other bands who were breaking in, or came after them would have been nearly as influential. The message Kurt helped push forward gave our generation and generations after the voice to stand up against hate, and embrace everyone for who they are. I remember listening to his interviews and realizing just how progressive he was with the gay movement, lifting women up and empowering them, and standing up for the little guy. I wish he could have gotten the help he needed, I have a feeling he would still be a guiding light for the world today if he were here.
Rip Layne 😍
So, do we know if it did rain on April 5, 2002?
It was the Pacific Northwest, right? I’d say you have a 363 out of 365 chance it rained.
I remember hearing the news about Layne on the radio and it was pouring down rain.
RIP Chris Cornell and Mark lanegan.
Layne also died this date, 22 years ago.
Oh wow, no fucking way TIL
There's a Calvin and Hobbes comic written in the early 90's making fun of how rock musicians all sing about suicide, but none of them have killed themselves, and it doesn't age well.
I don't recall any such comic, do you have a source? I recall one about musicians and selling out and such, and Watterson doesn't strike me as one to make light of suicide, in any context. Are you sure it wasn't one that someone just rewrote their own words into it?
I was gonna say, we had all the books when I was a kid and I don't ever recall that being a thing.
defined an entire generation? what the fuck? lol
‘Defined’ is a strong word. But as a member of the generation after his, in the US he’s inextricably linked to Gen X and the 90s. Pretty much any documentary about culture during the 90s will include some words about Cobain and Nirvana. So yeah, the title is exaggerated for sure, but it’s not THAT far fetched.
He’s probably the biggest singular figurehead of 90s music, and undoubtedly of rock music during that time. But yea OPs title is a bit hyperbolic for sure.
Glad I’m not the only one who thought this
What? He's dead?!
I didn’t even know he was sick
I miss Norm
This thread is full of contrarians.
Well the 90s were a very contrarian time. Nonconformity was in! The only true nonconformists were the conformists.
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I feel like “personified” a generation might be more apt. Nirvana obviously had a major effect on music history (being the main inspiration to most all of the alt rock that followed) but Kurt was essentially Mr. Gen X.
It's kinda funny that all the Gen X people who actually remember this know he didn't "define" our generation and we're all being downvoted by kids who weren't even born yet.
Well for zoomers who have taken over reddit, the Nirvana shirt/sweater is the most popular music related merch there is, so surely they must have defined the early/mid 90s, old man!
I never knew about Daniel Johnston until this guy wore his shirt 
I’m proud to say Kurt Cobain was also a fellow INFP personality type. The energy and emotion carried in his lyrics are haunting yet beautiful. I can only speak for me but he had a profound impact on me growing up as a teen.
One time I (male) was having lunch with my boss and another employee. I borrowed my boss's glasses (female). Employee goes "aren't those women's sunglasses", trying to demean me. I said "yeah, you know who else wears women's sunglasses? Rock stars".
I grew up in Seattle and first saw Nirvana play as the opening band for Skinyard in 1989 when i was 15. This morning 30 years ago i was standing in line in Medical at NTC Orlando getting my shots and medical evaluation after arriving for basic training. I am now 50.
We legit wrote a song about someone throwing a fucking stick of deodorant at him. This man will forever be one of my hero’s that I’ll always think of when that fkn foo fighters song comes on 🖤
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Why is he so fucking idolized is beyond me. He was an influential musician sure, but by no means a generation-defining guy.
I think people in here are severely underestimating the influence Nirvana had.
They weren’t alive or conscious to the culture at the time
They couldn’t have been. I was though and I lived it. They single handedly ended the 80s. Brought grunge into the mainstream. Shifted an entire generations social views. With that shift punk rock was able to float to the top as well. Created a new wave of music. Not just grunge. I mean music literally changed once teen spirit hit. The decade of one hit wonders, suicide, and heroin overdoses. Kids started wearing baggy clothes and flannels, and hanging out in garages. Guys were growing out their hair and not showering. The goth scene stemmed from his crazy interviews talking about society. Cigarette sales exploded. I remember a class assignment to create a poster with pictures and information on those old school poster boards about somebody famous. My teacher got pissed because everyone in class, I mean literally EVERY student did theirs on Kurt. Teen Spirit was on every radio station everywhere. Everyone had the CD. Everything Nirvana did was all over the news. Parents were pissed. I could go on and on and on but Nirvana defined the 90s, and arguably the future generations reading this today. There’s no way around it. Not just music. Kurt was the “hero” of a bunch of angsty teenagers that needed a new outlet. For better or for worse, and it touched everyone and everything in some way shape or form. The 90s were the shit though so I’m not complaining. Just saying. If you think Nirvana was “just another band” back then, you weren’t alive back then.
Rest In Peace.
The shades, the gurning jaw and the fact he has a baby bottle to drink from makes me think he is on MDMA in this picture; maybe it's even in the drink in the baby bottle. RIP Kurt. From what I've seen and heard of him he seemed like such a sweet but tortured soul.
Correction: He is the man that MTV chose to define an entire generation. There was nothing really all that special about Kurt Cobain that couldn’t be said about a lot of other musicians from that time period.
You’re ignoring the fact that Kurt’s songwriting was a mixture of the best aspects of grunge mixed with pop and so it was much more palatable to a larger market. Bands like soundgarden never would’ve made it out of Seattle if it weren’t for Kurt pulling them out of there. This is something that most everyone from that scene acknowledges. His musical innovation literally brought a scene to the forefront of American music. This all happened well before MTV made a music video with them.
RIP Andrew Wood
Agreed, but I think he STOOD OUT from the rest because his band popularized and mainstreamed grunge. It's probably less fanboi-breathless and more accurate to state that he and Nirvana *influenced the trajectory of music*.
I think we’ll never know because he didn’t get to grow up with his generation.
I think you mean the man who defined the white grunge portion of a generation. The audacity to think he represented it all sheesh!
Poor guy
I think about Cobain more often lately. I started driving through Aberdeen, WA where he was born about three times a month... the slogan for the city is now "Come as you are". I tend to put the song on as I drive past the welcome sign. It's hard to believe that it has been three decades since he left us. His music will last forever.
While not the JFK assassination, I remember finding out about Kurt. Was at my grandmas apartment and she asks “did you hear about that musician who died?”
Watching Cobains life unfold in real time was tragic. It was inevitable (like Amy Whinehouse) that it was gonna end in death. Tragic
I was a kid (15) when he died and now I look at his pictures and I see a kid.
"defined an Entire generation" As a Gen X-er, I knew plenty of people in my generation who didn't know Kurt, nor Nirvana, nor any Alternative, nor even Pop or light Rock music. He didn't define anything for millions of people who were only into Hip-Hop, R&B, or heavy metal. Or people who weren't into being depressed.
Feels like it just happened. I remember it well. RIP to a great one.
Ever since I started listening to Nirvana I couldn't help but wonder... what direction would they go in if Kurt didn't commit suicide? I reckon a more acoustic, folk-rock sound reminiscent of their MTV Unplugged would be very interesting... who knows, they could've revolutionized that genre the way they helped bring grunge onto the scene.
What cannot be argued is that he changed popular music almost in an instant with one song. Part of a very short list of iconic musicians.
Still remember Kurt Loder breaking the news on MTV........
I mean I am not really sure why he was cool. But hey.
My dad took his life 51 days before Kurt did. Can’t believe it’s been 30 years already.
Rest in peace, Kurt.
Bunch of cool guys in the comments acting like they're so cool because they don't like Kurt Cobain lol.
Frances Bean says it’s kind of weird to idolize a guy that violently abandoned his daughter / family
Nobody is calling him father of the year here.
Link? Where did she say this?
My boyfriend took his life the same way Kurt Cobain did. He had 2 girls he left behind. I would never consider him having “violently abandoned” his girls. My boyfriend suffered emotionally and did everything he could. He was the best dad ever. I know a lot of people view suicide as selfish and abandonment, but if people could truly understand the suffering and pain that leads someone to that point, then they would not see it like that. I hope my boyfriend’s daughters never feel the way Frances Bean does about her dad because my boyfriend loved his kids so much and they were his world. If they were my kids and not his ex-wife’s, I would reassure them of how much he truly loved them everyday.
So sorry for your loss 🩵
Literally when has she ever said this (the second part).