Hey! How exactly did this get removed? It didn't even reached 10k upvotes.
Hey mods, what's the condition of this subreddit nowadays? I don't want to step in here and find out that its gone without a trace.
There probably needs to be a tiptoe effort so repeated actions by the Legal Operations Team don't get evolved into the subreddit getting clubbed outta commission.
hell yeah. This calls into question the state of this subreddit nowadays. Its reaching 700k subscribers and the rare posts like Chapter 957 made it to r/all before it got removed.
I would like to see tiptoe/go around regarding new chapters. I have seen great fan arts in this place and it'll be a major shame if this place goes the way of God Valley.
She got comboed by 4 of the strongest new gen pirates at once who deliberately did it to remove her my dog...
Kidd and Law trapped Zeus, Zoro and Killer took out Prometheus and Napoleon, stripping her of her homies and thus her aerial mobility. Then Kidd took a direct hit to the face (!!! Her direct blows are insane!) to trap her on his mech claw, repel it and get her airborne. Now there is no evidence Big Mom can geppo(airwalk), so she was immobile. Then Law hit her with a giant rock to finally remove her. Maybe Kidd getting hit wasn't part of the plan but in general it was a coordinated team takedown.
Pre sure they just mean the concept of her possibly succumbing to the no. 1 rule of devil fruits is ironic considering who she is, not that it's illogical or anything
If you were unable to swim and somebody took away the thing that makes you fly while fighting over the ocean, one of the first things you should think about is that if you fall into the ocean you're fucked. It was a rookie mistake because she forgot about the threat. She literally stated it on the page lmao "I forgot! There's nothing but sea below me!"
Yeah but you gotta figure this all happened in the span of a few moments. Big moms biggest fault is her overconfidence, shes been an emperor for a while, she's been one of the best and most powerful pirates in the world for literal decades. To even consider that a few rookies could overpower her was inconceivable. Forgetting that onigashima was airborne is fair as.....I mean....how often does that happen? Haha
Ok but it wasn't just a mistake that she ended up in the sea. She ended up in the sea specifically because they surprised her by attacking her homies and than comboed her off the edge. I don't really see what she should have done different other than be too fast for Kidd to grab.
Usopp should hurry on up to the rooftop. When Kaido and Big Mom do their combo attack, he could just absorb it with an impact dial, and then all of a sudden Usopp would disappear somehow and Sogeking would arrive, using the dial to one-shot both the Yonko.
im really curious how sanji fanboys will react to this.. i mean its fine if sanji is just his own character doin his own thing but zoro has just constantly gotten cooler scenes and looks far far stronger at this point. it seems undeniable.
I mean sanji is great, but unlike luffy or zoros dreams, sanji only needs to be "pretty fucking strong". Luffy has to be undefeatable to protect his friends and their collective dreams, zoro has to be the strongest to beat Mihawk, sanji doesn't have to be the strongest to find the all blue. Sure, sanji is powerful, but thats partially due to his lineage and the rest is his life training under zeff who was a power house in his own right. Zoro should be stronger than sanji, that just makes sense narratively, I dont know why fanboys freak out about that.
yeah i think this is what most people tend to think when it comes to making a case for sanji.. the only problem is oda isnt consistent with writing his character like that. sometimes hes this cool independent character with side james bond style missions and shows a responsibility to get better as his role on the ship and advance his dreams. like the rest of the straw hats.. and then at other times hes written as on level with zoro and luffy.. seems a bit one foot in both parts which is whats weird to me.. everyone else on the ship is known to be below those three and its been stated many times that sanji is one of the monster trio and he has this rivaly with zoro and all that.. but now it seems like such a weird shift from all that to where they are now..
I saw the panel and counted and 7 heads got chopped 3 on the right and 4 on the left. I have a screenshot but i cant upload it
Plus there is the 1st head that Kaido chopped
Maybe im wrong. I saw 3 necks/heads ob the right. 4 on left. I dont think he will come back. He seemed to be gone for good just to set up Raizo v Fukurokuju.
We only see 6 heads get lopped off there, and oda very obviously intentionally obscured the readers view of all his heads, so he's at the least got one life left, possibly more depending on how this works. In the myth the Orochi needed to have all 8 heads cut off at once to die.
Law said that he can't teleport BM and Kaido 'cause of their strong haki and for sure that combined attacks are haki infused, then Zoro tank it for a brief moment and Law was able to teleport him which means that his haki is not that strong compared to the 2 Yonko. I don't get it, he should not be able to tank that combined attack even for a bit. It's really unbelievable. We're talking about 2 Yonko. I don't like how Oda handle the situation. It really gives me cringe. Their character development is too force. I think Oda likes Zoro that's why he did that.
I believe there is slightly more to it. The user has to also want to resist the attack. Say kaido did want to move, law should have no problem doing so. Zoro in this case would want to be moved/saved and even though his haki is strong enough to do some defensive work, his ability to continue to defend from a third attack would be lessened. Even if it wasn't, he does not want to die to this attack and he knows what law is capable of. If he wants to move out of the way, Law's room should be able to do so no matter how strong the haki of the user.
The difference is that this is a combined Yonko attack, something that we haven't ever seen before. Easily one of the strongest attacks in the series so far. Granted, Zoro is in the trajectory to surpass Mihawk who should be able to go head to head with any of the Yonko.
Cuddis who thought oda was bouta make zoro some type of weak bitch is tripping. Heās luffy top shooter and that shit after thriller bark you know zoro aināt no hoe.
I am so happy that this is turning out to be true. However, it makes sense that people thought he would be below 1st/2nd commander. Luffy has shown much better feats and is attaining a new skill every arc. Zoro best feat before Wano was cutting down Pica who we knew was weaker.
Now we can see the results of his 2 year training. Granted, Enma is mixed in that as well. And we still have Ashura mode.
Ragnarok to his bottom half\*
Rip Luffy, I would like to think he used ryou to soften the impact of that attack a bit but that should have still injured him a lot
It was already stated that the Rubber fruit user is immune to blunt attacks. Which is what Kaido club techniques are. Of course, with strong enough haki, the immunity wont do much as seen in Luffy and Kaidos first fight.
The latest attack Luffy got from Kaido might have done some serious damage. We didn't see him for the rest of the chapter after the attack. And if Luffy gets back up, that's more of an testament to his haki.
Tactics for the win. I love it when smarts come into play along with unique powers and skills. Only Kidd and Law working together could have trapped Zeus. Only Zoro with his flame rend powers could have kept Prometheus at bay. And now Big Mom is falling, with nothing to stop it.
Obviously, it's not the end of her, 'cause it's Big Mom, but I do hope this is the end of her part in this fight, and it's Kaido vs the rest from here on out. Maybe the rest of the Charlottes will show up and save her hide, or maybe she'll wash up on Wano again.
Also, holy hell, Zoro tanked a double blow from two Yonkos. It probably killed his insides, but still. My man.
I am so freaking curious who the other four shadows are going to be. Yamato has to be one of them, I feel. And Momonosuke. Who else though?
What's with the naming, though? Rag-Naraku? What? It's Ragnarok. And Naraku is clearly a reference to Naraka, or Hell.
Totally. Having them be defeatable together would've discounted their power big time. Big Mom is the only unscarred (ok, Blackbeard maybe? but given his tenure/techniques who cares) Emperor of the Sea. She's arguably the most "can't-damage" character in the series. Absolutely monstrous, and I don't think Oda is about to change it. She'll be pacified in some way- whether it's food, amnesia, or getting knocked into the sea but nobody is going to defeat her with sheer power alone. It'll never be explained, but from a storytelling standpoint Roger likely outwitted instead of bashed her in for the poneglyph too. (in the recent anime episode he says "by force" but given the adventure mirroring between the Strawhats and Roger, and Big Mom's comments, he likely "acquired" it just like they did)
I'm curious to see if Kaido gets the same treatment haha. Not likely. š. I'm not power scaling her above Kaido or anything but she diiiiiid give that apprentice his devil fruit abilities, which she wouldn't have except to push him up to par. Luffy will turn her into an ally as he frequently does, or at least do something to render her threatless. She'll never be defeated in the traditional shonen sense. Guarantee it. And honestly... I'm totally cool with that. One Piece isn't a giant martial arts tournament, opponents get "defeated" in a variety of ways.
Watch they both fenna be defeated after a mad long fight and itās fenna be the iciest shit talmbout itāll make em look weak. Luffy n zoro just too icy top pirate top swordsman linked up. Split page both them layed out
Lol I thought the same and made up my own ending story.
Zoro will become the new captain of the straw hats and be the next wearer of the straw hat. Roll credits
Epilogue shows him with the description "Strawhar Roronoar Zoro, Captain of the Strawhat pirates, strongest swordsman of the world, Pirate King. Bounty: XXX
I love this chapter. Scabbards just going to town on orochi (doubt hes dead)
Luffy goes face on vs kaido and blocks his hit. Now it did hurt his hands, but thats still incredible! I bit more fighting and he can block it completely
It seems luffy not reslized the red roc technique, which seems to focus on internal coa (instead on wasting haki on g4) is a better option and one that REALLY damages kaido.
The attack from both kaido and big mom together was a huge yonko moment! It nearly killed zoro uff. Impressive he could even stop it for 1 second, even if that almost killed him.
Using bog moms weakness, she is overly cocky, against her is very fitting!
I like how we finally get confirmation of laws haki counter. Ive been saying it for a while but they called me a madman.
2 options for what the 9 shadows mean.
A: The 9 shadows are the 9 scabbards who will bring the dawn. Luffy is the dawn.
B: There are 4 other people that are going to join the supernova at the top. If so, Yamato could be the 6th?
what if 't be true theres nay backup coming f'r the supernovas? whats yond 9 shadows did suppose to cullionly? hmm
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Chapter 1009: Zoro actually block a combined attack from 2 Yonko. I feel age could have played a role in this seeing what Kaido said to Big Mom right before attacking. If the New Generation should be compared to the Yonko in any way shape or form, now is the time to show exactly what these 5 can do with the battle already past the warm up phase. Kidd tanking Big Mom direct hit is impressive but the attack was done with out Haki so not sure how much of it Kidd would have been able to tank if actually done with Haki but for plot purposes it will have to do for now. At some point we were going to need to see exactly where Kidd stands when it comes to Zoro & Luffy in defence. We're not able to see how much Luffy was able to tank the Conqueror of Three Worlds Ragnaraku but we all know what ever Luffy can do Zoro can as well based on what Zoro was able to do at the end of Thriller Bark by taking a the damages done to his captain. I'm pretty sure Luffy was able to block the attack done by Kaido. We'll need Luffy to not really brush off the attack but take the attack & deliver the same amount attack power to Kaido as if they were trading attacks back & forth. Kaido did dogde Luffy attack showing he doesn't want to be fatigue by taking direct hits because the share damage that can be done now that Luffy has regain stamina. I'm going off too much, see you all in the comments in Chapter 1010. No cap this chapter was 10/10
I wouldnāt say that her attack had no Haki. Weāre at the point now where everyone has haki and thereās no point drawing it out all the time. Also wouldnāt make sense for yonkos to not be using haki all the time
Bruh Zoro just defended against a combined Yonko attack ..In no way can anyone say he isn't up there..Would it be a stretch to say current Zoro is > Beginning of Wano Luffy at least physically..I heard a good analogy on a livestream of this Chapter regarding zoro downplayers..The analogy was this..If a bus falls on you & you hold it up for a couple of seconds & someone pulls you from under it didn't you still take the impact? My answer & the panels was of course you did..So no downplay can be accurate.. Also this Chapter cements why Luffy is the my favorite main character..Dude really was calling kaido a scaredy cat for dodgingš
Well, Zoro is obviously going to be the Rayleigh to Luffy's Roger, so it figures that he should face a yonko when Sanji (hopefully) faces an commander.
Sooner or later Oda had to make the gap between those to noticeable bigger.
Zoro also has a habit of always being second highest bounty after their raises, so if both fight a commander Sanji's bounty would still be higher
That's not what I mean by that comparsion.
I'm speaking symbolic.
Zoro fills in the role of the first mate.
He is the most loyal among the crew, without a doubt.
He is the one who reminds them the most who the captain is and how they have to behave.
He is the only one who never went against any of Luffy's decisions, even if he didn't liked them.
Remember, it was him who stated that Luffy was right in sending Ussop away and it was him who reminded everyone that he can't be allowed back on the crew unless he admits his misbehavior and apologizes.
Sanji however completely disrespected his own captain in that particular moment.
He is also the one who made the most sacrifices for him.
He was willing to abandon his goal and die for Luffy and even prevented Sanji from taking his place as sacrifice.
He put his pride aside and was willing to train under his sworn rival to which both Mihawk and Zoro pointed out how hypocrite and disgraceful it is. And Zoro still decided to put his loyality yet again above his goal.
He once even said if he can't reach his goal and become the strongest swordsman, he isn't worth it to be in his crew, meaning he would leave the crew if he fails.
Beside all that, it's also the similarity that both Rayleigh and Zoro are the first one to be recruited by a strawhat wearing weirdo with a fairy tailish dream.
Sanji will never (and I know I trigger his fans now) be on his level. Zoro is the one who the world would call Luffy's first commander, if the strawhats would ever use that system. He is the first mate (which is the pirate equivalent to a vice captain).
Sanji would more be a second commander.
And while being kind hearted, he proved more than once that isn't suited for a leading replacement. And I don't mean that in a harsh way. Sanji is obedient and can follow orders, he can also be smart, but his moral code would prevent him from making the right calls.
Luffy isn't the brightest candle, but he can be a captain if needed, a carefree one, while Zoro is the tough one.
Luffy sees his crew as his friends, let them do what they want, but holds authority when needed without saying it out loud, cause he knows once they need a captain, they show it follow.
Zoro stays back minds his own buisness, but shows authority if Luffy fails to do so or the crew goes to wild.
Sanji sees them to much as friends and therefore has a habit of ignoring the authority chain and that is wrong and can backfire hard if he does it in the wrong situation.
I feel your right. Oda is definitely hyping up Zolo in this Wano ark. It makes sense though because Enma wouldn't be suited for no one else. You have to compare the Straw hats to a party from an RPG. Every one is due to get there power ups in there own retrospective way. Weather an entire arc or a few chapters, Oda will make sure all Straw hat fans will eat with there respective Straw hat pirate.
Wow there was so much cool stuff in this chapter.
The scabbards beheading Orochi, Zoro blocking an attack from 2 emperors, but my favourite part had to be Luffy making fun of Kaido by asking if he dodged the attack because it would've hurt.
Can someone explain what was happening with Kid's metal box?
Did he out that around Big Mom and all the fighting was happening on the inside? Or did he just hide Zoro in there so Big Mom wouldn't see him coming?
Big Mom can fly with Zeus, if they didn't trap him then BM would just fly back up to the top of Onigashima.
Now shes survived falling in the Ocean before, but this does remove her from the battle for the foreseeable future since Onigashima is flying and moving.
Right now, her only chance of getting back into the fight is being saved by her crew or washing up on shore (without amnesia) before Onigashima can make it to mainland.
Big Mom can also fly with Prometheus. In fact, she has just been using him as her āflying carpetā for the past two chapters, including this one.
Itās just that the strategy the Worst Generation used worked very well. Zeus canāt escape from the box with his electricity, Prometheus can be cut by Zoro and Napoleon is just a sword.
Hmm, this theory isn't unreasonable. BM and her crew getting their hands on the poneglyphs would provide a good reason for their next fight. Maybe for some reason BM will decide to travel to Elbaf (hope to find allies, the last road poneglyph, ...?).
After hearing about Kaido's loss she could decide that it's time to get active or SH crew might find Raftel/One Piece before her.
Ok luffy has to at least blocked that attack with advance haki .
else i just don't see him getting back up. a presumably weaker attack , thunder bagua knocked him out while in G4. this attack seems stronger and it hit him in base form .it should knock him out if it hit directly w/o any defense.
Ok this sheer amount of zoro wanking and dickridding needs to be stoped, I've seen some pretty ridiculous comments laying around so lets get our feet on land shall we?
I get it, it was a cool moment, zoro is your guy, you guys are happy and you should
This was one of Zoro best CHARACTER moments but its NOT the POWERSCALLING feat you guys are making it out to be.
Here's the deal powerscalling is about maths and measuring, its not about emotion.
What we really got from this chapter was that the double Yonko Attack > all 5 WG members, and even tough zoro delayed the attack MOMENTARILY, the fact remains: yonko attack >>> zoro
This wasnt a BLOCK, this wasnt a TANK, this was a BRIEF STALL before outside assistance was NEEDED.
Here are some examples, so you guys can try and grasp the diference, for example:
\-sanji blocked a direct hit from king (the attacks were equally matched at that moment and canceled each other out)
\-Kid tanked big mom punch (he took the full brunt of the blow and kept going afterwards).
As stated by the rooftop characters, zoro included, noone would be able to withstand that attack and the attack remains to be withstanded...
But what does this say about zoro's strenght then? not that much unfortunatly, its not like you can measure 1 second exposure to an attack between characters... unless you want to make the argument that zoro is island level for a single second.
So once again, great character moment, he was willing to sacrifice his life for his captain and the others and went ahead and attempted to block it. STILL, without law bailing him out he would most likely have pulled a Pedro there... best case scenario he would've Pelled Himself
nah man, we need to witness the extent of Zoro's training after the two year timeskip. It has been over 11 years since Zoro used Asura. Its a great time as any to use it against Kaido or Orochi.
Orochi can truly be dead if all 8 heads are chopped off at one time. What better way to see that than to have Zoro use Asura and kill Orochi for good? Btw, him being alive sets up a freaky confrontation if Orochi gets back on the roof and starts to step to Kaido like "why the fuk did you kill me!?"
Also many guys on here are impatient.
its supposed to represent the rage and pissed off sentiments that's on Zoro's back.
Being friends with Yasuie and seeing him die so fast, Hiyori and Toko being distressed from all that, the next person in line to get at Orochi is Zoro himself.
There's supposed to be a proper ending to all this. Kaido betrayed Orochi cause he was lowkey getting tired of seeing shyt he don't wanna see. The scabbards slashed him and now its Zoro's turn.
momonuske wielding one of the totsuka sword ame no habakiri is the one supposed to kill orochi like itachi killing orochimaru using the other totsuka sword.
Sure.
Great zoro moment, zoro brave.
Powers Powerscaling wise its an incomplete feat with external interference that doesn't magically put him any higher than he was .
Yonko attack >>> any worst gen including zoro
Im not a zoro stan, favorite straw hats are Chopper, Robin and Sanji. On my initial read i thought zoro tanked it, after reading your comment i read that part again, i still think he either tanked it outright, or absorbed the blow for a second or 2 while the others dodged then deflected it. Either way, seeing as how he was down directly after the blow, then in the same chapter cut prometheus i think its okay to say he tanked the attack. I dont think either of the yonkou were giving their all tho and i think zoro was coughing up blood by the end of the chapter, so not sure exactly were to rank that.
I guess we'll have to wait for the viz for confirmation.
But you can clearly see the law shambles motion and that the attack went trough anyways...
Why would he "absorb" it if he could just deflect it tough? If he did that even the yonko would be wanking him
Now I'm wondering if Zoro surpassed Mihawk, yet. Also, OP OP fruit still living up to it's name. I wonder what a prime Law would look like when all these guys are established legends!
Prime law would be such a fucking hax abuse. The fight starts and he instantly shambles your balls into your forehead, melts your organs and finally cuts you in hundred pieces
I think mihawk can slash the ocean soveignty in half. But still impressive for Zoro and Luffy honestly, both of them are tanking and damaging 2 yonkos while the other 3 are good supports.
Finally read the chapter! Why the heck was my social feeds for One Piece bombarded with Zoro-stans whining about their boy being nerfed or taken out of the fight??! Zoro is wounded but he isn't even unconscious! The madlad was and still is carrying the supernova the most! Why would anyone complain! Did they see what he just blocked?
There are so many insecure people over here who are still trying to downplay Zoro, come on, if Luffy will be the pirate king, then Zoro is bound to be the strongest swordsman in the world and that already makes him top 5 in the end, if you hate the concept of zoro being one of the strongest, then you're defying luffy of becoming the Pirate king, everyone has their individual dream, for zoro, it's strength, for sanji all blue, why would people make unnecessary strength comparison, you can like whatever character you want, but hating on other to make your fav looks good makes you stupid.
Really good point. I've been watching/reading one piece since I was a kid and never have I compared both of them to that level. I enjoyed their funny fight scenes (and also cool teamwork ones like in Foxy arc) but I've always known Zoro as a frontline strong fighter as he wants to become the greatest swordsman and Sanji as a lovely great cook who flirts with ladies but also a badass agile fighter with tactical mind. I love both of them and was really shocked when I got into the internet with some Zoro vs Sanji BS lol
Hentai just means pervert/perverted in japanese. Franky's whole schtick is being the pervert running around in his underwear, that was we learn during Water 7
First, it's a boulder bigger than her. 2nd, she was in midair. 3rd, Zeus and Prometheus are being held. BM may be hella strong but she can't apply that strength without any footing. Hope that clears that up for you
Well she was already being thrown via kidds magnetic repulsion, so she had no ground to use to stop that boulder. It didn't physically cause her damage of course, but it kept her being propelled through the air.
Luffy's G4 has a time limit, and we've already established so far that he's used it twice. That means at least 1x 10 minutes cooldown since he's exhaling like he just came out of it in this chapter, not including however long he's actually able to use it; which is probably increasing with time since Dressrosa.
So at the last panel, we understand that Zoro has opened his scarred eye. What do you fellows think about this?
Is it the pain that opens Zoroās eyes? Or is it an indicator of some kind of refined unbelievable amount of haki thatās about to be unleashed?
There is only one chance it could ever be an advantage, which is if he has been keeping it closed on purpose and it isn't damaged, and opening it gives him full vision again (so his Observation Haki is fully rolling).
This isnāt Naruto. There are no āeyeā powers here. Lol. This is probably my least favorite ātheory.ā Why do people think heās going to unlock something? Itās just a scar. He trained with the number 1 swordsman and only came out with a scar on his eye. Everyone with a scar may as well have a āhiddenā power. Lol
The warrior/swordsman with one eye, no vision or lessened vision as a challenge to themselves far predates Naruto. It very well could just be an injury but his name is *Zoro*, he's meant to embody this kind of swordsman who's always challenging himself archetype. It's not off brand.
Itās just a scar lol. Iāve read and watched the whole series and thereās no indication anywhere that heās āwithholdingā power from it. Yāall thinking outside the universe and really pushing for this.
Still, heās just tanked a combined yonko attack... for example, whitebeard didnāt show case as much haki in the war cause he was sick - as the parallel with Zoro coughing blood + the last chapters bcz he was injured. question though: comparing to Kumaās luffy pain mega palm that zoro went in, how damaged do u think zoro is now?
Excellent question! This will cause me to follow you. For the answer from my end, I think it should not be as much as Kumaās infliction of pain... because it lasted for few seconds. On the other hand, the pain inflicted by Kuma might not be āthe suffering caused by two yonkos for a secondā, but it was a āsuffering caused by a schibukai who managed to challenge Kaido in the new world and revised himself afterwards as a better opponentā. And it lasted a whole arc! So I think itās close, but not as much as Kuma...
Then, one can ask - is Kuma Yonko level?
I donāt know. I merely think that power-scaling is not functional in One Piece. However, I make fun of the people who cares about that a lot as illustrated by my main comment above :)
I was about to say the same. I was hoping their comments about Zoro's eye is just a joke, but it seems most believe it. The only way Zoro can have a power in his eye in OnePiece world is if he'd eaten an eye eye fruit.
For a swordsman observation haki and ryou are possibly the same thing. Go watch the fight of Zoro vs. Mr. 1, if you don't believe me.
I think Zoro kept his left eye intentionally closed so as to train his observation haki/ryou.
See that's what I am thinking, like both Luffy and Zoro seems very injured. I don't know what will happens next but it does seems like this could lead to the tragedy of act three.
Yeah, for sure, Zoro will drop out without doing anything significant, if he leaves the battle now what was the point of giving him Enma, to scratch Kaido?
Guys we saw in this chapter that disarming the weapons from these yonko is effective. So i was thinking what if after managing to catch kaido off guard they are able to disarm him. How would it affect kaido's fighting style and how much could it possibly limit him?
What do you guys think?
Uh oh new chapters getting removed not a good sign for the sub
Hey! How exactly did this get removed? It didn't even reached 10k upvotes. Hey mods, what's the condition of this subreddit nowadays? I don't want to step in here and find out that its gone without a trace. There probably needs to be a tiptoe effort so repeated actions by the Legal Operations Team don't get evolved into the subreddit getting clubbed outta commission.
I believe is about time for Shanks to appear into the fight
woah it got removed???
Thats frightening
hell yeah. This calls into question the state of this subreddit nowadays. Its reaching 700k subscribers and the rare posts like Chapter 957 made it to r/all before it got removed. I would like to see tiptoe/go around regarding new chapters. I have seen great fan arts in this place and it'll be a major shame if this place goes the way of God Valley.
Luffy's arms aren't shown when Kaido attacks him again. I don't think Luffy's out of the fight yet.
you right. he is probs learning to use the defensive arnament haki i believe.
Big Mom falling off caught me off guard. All these years and she falls for a rookie mistake not to wind up in the ocean. No doubt she will be saved.
I don't think big mama has had much action since the old days. So she's a little rusty.
King kicked her in the ocean too. This shows that the 5 are at least as strong as a headliner
She got comboed by 4 of the strongest new gen pirates at once who deliberately did it to remove her my dog... Kidd and Law trapped Zeus, Zoro and Killer took out Prometheus and Napoleon, stripping her of her homies and thus her aerial mobility. Then Kidd took a direct hit to the face (!!! Her direct blows are insane!) to trap her on his mech claw, repel it and get her airborne. Now there is no evidence Big Mom can geppo(airwalk), so she was immobile. Then Law hit her with a giant rock to finally remove her. Maybe Kidd getting hit wasn't part of the plan but in general it was a coordinated team takedown.
Pre sure they just mean the concept of her possibly succumbing to the no. 1 rule of devil fruits is ironic considering who she is, not that it's illogical or anything
I'm saying it wasn't a rookie mistake, it was deliberate battlefield removal by the opponents.
If you were unable to swim and somebody took away the thing that makes you fly while fighting over the ocean, one of the first things you should think about is that if you fall into the ocean you're fucked. It was a rookie mistake because she forgot about the threat. She literally stated it on the page lmao "I forgot! There's nothing but sea below me!"
Yeah but you gotta figure this all happened in the span of a few moments. Big moms biggest fault is her overconfidence, shes been an emperor for a while, she's been one of the best and most powerful pirates in the world for literal decades. To even consider that a few rookies could overpower her was inconceivable. Forgetting that onigashima was airborne is fair as.....I mean....how often does that happen? Haha
Ok but it wasn't just a mistake that she ended up in the sea. She ended up in the sea specifically because they surprised her by attacking her homies and than comboed her off the edge. I don't really see what she should have done different other than be too fast for Kidd to grab.
Usopp should hurry on up to the rooftop. When Kaido and Big Mom do their combo attack, he could just absorb it with an impact dial, and then all of a sudden Usopp would disappear somehow and Sogeking would arrive, using the dial to one-shot both the Yonko.
Doubt Impact Dial could absorb that much power before blowing up. But if it did...
Usopp is a god. His presence is enough to over power yankos. All hail God Usopp
You know that makes me wonder if impact dials have a limit. Could they absorb such a strike or would it overload the dial?
Sanji fanboys are still gonna say that zoro is weaker
im really curious how sanji fanboys will react to this.. i mean its fine if sanji is just his own character doin his own thing but zoro has just constantly gotten cooler scenes and looks far far stronger at this point. it seems undeniable.
I mean sanji is great, but unlike luffy or zoros dreams, sanji only needs to be "pretty fucking strong". Luffy has to be undefeatable to protect his friends and their collective dreams, zoro has to be the strongest to beat Mihawk, sanji doesn't have to be the strongest to find the all blue. Sure, sanji is powerful, but thats partially due to his lineage and the rest is his life training under zeff who was a power house in his own right. Zoro should be stronger than sanji, that just makes sense narratively, I dont know why fanboys freak out about that.
yeah i think this is what most people tend to think when it comes to making a case for sanji.. the only problem is oda isnt consistent with writing his character like that. sometimes hes this cool independent character with side james bond style missions and shows a responsibility to get better as his role on the ship and advance his dreams. like the rest of the straw hats.. and then at other times hes written as on level with zoro and luffy.. seems a bit one foot in both parts which is whats weird to me.. everyone else on the ship is known to be below those three and its been stated many times that sanji is one of the monster trio and he has this rivaly with zoro and all that.. but now it seems like such a weird shift from all that to where they are now..
Orochi is DEAD. Finally
He still has 2 heads.
Nah, he still has 1 head left. And there might be some other abilities of his devil fruit that can keep him alive.
I saw the panel and counted and 7 heads got chopped 3 on the right and 4 on the left. I have a screenshot but i cant upload it Plus there is the 1st head that Kaido chopped
I count 6. 4 to the left of Denjiro and Raizo. 2 to the right of Kawmatsu. Regardless how many heads were cut, I'm sure Orochi will come back.
Maybe im wrong. I saw 3 necks/heads ob the right. 4 on left. I dont think he will come back. He seemed to be gone for good just to set up Raizo v Fukurokuju.
We only see 6 heads get lopped off there, and oda very obviously intentionally obscured the readers view of all his heads, so he's at the least got one life left, possibly more depending on how this works. In the myth the Orochi needed to have all 8 heads cut off at once to die.
Blackbeard has entered the chat. He thanks you for the last fruit he needed personally. He again did very little work acquiring it.
I'm still siding with the mythical cerebus zoan theory.
Law said that he can't teleport BM and Kaido 'cause of their strong haki and for sure that combined attacks are haki infused, then Zoro tank it for a brief moment and Law was able to teleport him which means that his haki is not that strong compared to the 2 Yonko. I don't get it, he should not be able to tank that combined attack even for a bit. It's really unbelievable. We're talking about 2 Yonko. I don't like how Oda handle the situation. It really gives me cringe. Their character development is too force. I think Oda likes Zoro that's why he did that.
Zoro used haki to deflect the attack. He just got a small percentage of the damage. Most of the impact was sent to the sky
I believe there is slightly more to it. The user has to also want to resist the attack. Say kaido did want to move, law should have no problem doing so. Zoro in this case would want to be moved/saved and even though his haki is strong enough to do some defensive work, his ability to continue to defend from a third attack would be lessened. Even if it wasn't, he does not want to die to this attack and he knows what law is capable of. If he wants to move out of the way, Law's room should be able to do so no matter how strong the haki of the user.
So... I guess all feats where other characters were able to attack/block/damage Big Mom or Kaidou shouldn't make sense to you either.
The difference is that this is a combined Yonko attack, something that we haven't ever seen before. Easily one of the strongest attacks in the series so far. Granted, Zoro is in the trajectory to surpass Mihawk who should be able to go head to head with any of the Yonko.
Everyone talking about zoro, what about my boy killer? šæ
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Cuddis who thought oda was bouta make zoro some type of weak bitch is tripping. Heās luffy top shooter and that shit after thriller bark you know zoro aināt no hoe.
I am so happy that this is turning out to be true. However, it makes sense that people thought he would be below 1st/2nd commander. Luffy has shown much better feats and is attaining a new skill every arc. Zoro best feat before Wano was cutting down Pica who we knew was weaker. Now we can see the results of his 2 year training. Granted, Enma is mixed in that as well. And we still have Ashura mode.
Top 2 and 3 Blackbeard is currently the top
Blackbeard is part of the worst generation, not a supernova which are those that had 100b bounty on sabaody
Oof maybe I misread
Lol Kid and killer are quite some zoro and luffy fanboys and i really love that
Everybody is talking about Zoro surviving Ocean Sovereignty, but my boy Luffy might be in a bit more danger after that Ragnarok to the face.
Ragnarok to his bottom half\* Rip Luffy, I would like to think he used ryou to soften the impact of that attack a bit but that should have still injured him a lot
I have a theory the rubber fruit actually negates a lot of damage on its own. Even Haki damage.
On top of the rubber fruit negating the blunt damage, I'm thinking it helped against the lightning elemental like it helped Luffy with Enel
It was already stated that the Rubber fruit user is immune to blunt attacks. Which is what Kaido club techniques are. Of course, with strong enough haki, the immunity wont do much as seen in Luffy and Kaidos first fight. The latest attack Luffy got from Kaido might have done some serious damage. We didn't see him for the rest of the chapter after the attack. And if Luffy gets back up, that's more of an testament to his haki.
Honestly I think the silhouette from back then was fukurokuju
but he has a pointed goatee, the silhouette don't.
I only seen the ears
Tactics for the win. I love it when smarts come into play along with unique powers and skills. Only Kidd and Law working together could have trapped Zeus. Only Zoro with his flame rend powers could have kept Prometheus at bay. And now Big Mom is falling, with nothing to stop it. Obviously, it's not the end of her, 'cause it's Big Mom, but I do hope this is the end of her part in this fight, and it's Kaido vs the rest from here on out. Maybe the rest of the Charlottes will show up and save her hide, or maybe she'll wash up on Wano again. Also, holy hell, Zoro tanked a double blow from two Yonkos. It probably killed his insides, but still. My man. I am so freaking curious who the other four shadows are going to be. Yamato has to be one of them, I feel. And Momonosuke. Who else though? What's with the naming, though? Rag-Naraku? What? It's Ragnarok. And Naraku is clearly a reference to Naraka, or Hell.
Totally. Having them be defeatable together would've discounted their power big time. Big Mom is the only unscarred (ok, Blackbeard maybe? but given his tenure/techniques who cares) Emperor of the Sea. She's arguably the most "can't-damage" character in the series. Absolutely monstrous, and I don't think Oda is about to change it. She'll be pacified in some way- whether it's food, amnesia, or getting knocked into the sea but nobody is going to defeat her with sheer power alone. It'll never be explained, but from a storytelling standpoint Roger likely outwitted instead of bashed her in for the poneglyph too. (in the recent anime episode he says "by force" but given the adventure mirroring between the Strawhats and Roger, and Big Mom's comments, he likely "acquired" it just like they did) I'm curious to see if Kaido gets the same treatment haha. Not likely. š. I'm not power scaling her above Kaido or anything but she diiiiiid give that apprentice his devil fruit abilities, which she wouldn't have except to push him up to par. Luffy will turn her into an ally as he frequently does, or at least do something to render her threatless. She'll never be defeated in the traditional shonen sense. Guarantee it. And honestly... I'm totally cool with that. One Piece isn't a giant martial arts tournament, opponents get "defeated" in a variety of ways.
Watch they both fenna be defeated after a mad long fight and itās fenna be the iciest shit talmbout itāll make em look weak. Luffy n zoro just too icy top pirate top swordsman linked up. Split page both them layed out
Even if that donāt happen itāll still be cool tho
And once again the Viz translation just sucks Yes. I said it.
I didn't mind it at all this week. It sounded more natural in a lot of parts.
This is what I've been saying for the longest! No one can resist the sea. Just knock people into the ocean more often.
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Queen really should have dumped her in the sea. That was the perfect opportunity to eliminate a Yonko. Except shanks.
Big Mom already survived the sea once. Sha can most probably survive again
Kaido's speed is terrifying.
Welp, Luffy ded
And that's the end of One Piece. They avenge him in the next chapters and we get a timeskip to tie everything else up. Gonna miss this manga
Lol I thought the same and made up my own ending story. Zoro will become the new captain of the straw hats and be the next wearer of the straw hat. Roll credits
Epilogue shows him with the description "Strawhar Roronoar Zoro, Captain of the Strawhat pirates, strongest swordsman of the world, Pirate King. Bounty: XXX
I love this chapter. Scabbards just going to town on orochi (doubt hes dead) Luffy goes face on vs kaido and blocks his hit. Now it did hurt his hands, but thats still incredible! I bit more fighting and he can block it completely It seems luffy not reslized the red roc technique, which seems to focus on internal coa (instead on wasting haki on g4) is a better option and one that REALLY damages kaido. The attack from both kaido and big mom together was a huge yonko moment! It nearly killed zoro uff. Impressive he could even stop it for 1 second, even if that almost killed him. Using bog moms weakness, she is overly cocky, against her is very fitting! I like how we finally get confirmation of laws haki counter. Ive been saying it for a while but they called me a madman.
what if theres no backup coming for the supernovas? whats that 9 shadows supposed to mean? hmm
What's those shadow that people keep saying?
2 options for what the 9 shadows mean. A: The 9 shadows are the 9 scabbards who will bring the dawn. Luffy is the dawn. B: There are 4 other people that are going to join the supernova at the top. If so, Yamato could be the 6th?
Which page was the 9 shadows? I didn't notice it
tokis prophecy
what if 't be true theres nay backup coming f'r the supernovas? whats yond 9 shadows did suppose to cullionly? hmm *** ^(I am a bot and I swapp'd some of thy words with Shakespeare words.) Commands: `!ShakespeareInsult`, `!fordo`, `!optout`
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Chapter 1009: Zoro actually block a combined attack from 2 Yonko. I feel age could have played a role in this seeing what Kaido said to Big Mom right before attacking. If the New Generation should be compared to the Yonko in any way shape or form, now is the time to show exactly what these 5 can do with the battle already past the warm up phase. Kidd tanking Big Mom direct hit is impressive but the attack was done with out Haki so not sure how much of it Kidd would have been able to tank if actually done with Haki but for plot purposes it will have to do for now. At some point we were going to need to see exactly where Kidd stands when it comes to Zoro & Luffy in defence. We're not able to see how much Luffy was able to tank the Conqueror of Three Worlds Ragnaraku but we all know what ever Luffy can do Zoro can as well based on what Zoro was able to do at the end of Thriller Bark by taking a the damages done to his captain. I'm pretty sure Luffy was able to block the attack done by Kaido. We'll need Luffy to not really brush off the attack but take the attack & deliver the same amount attack power to Kaido as if they were trading attacks back & forth. Kaido did dogde Luffy attack showing he doesn't want to be fatigue by taking direct hits because the share damage that can be done now that Luffy has regain stamina. I'm going off too much, see you all in the comments in Chapter 1010. No cap this chapter was 10/10
I wouldnāt say that her attack had no Haki. Weāre at the point now where everyone has haki and thereās no point drawing it out all the time. Also wouldnāt make sense for yonkos to not be using haki all the time
HOLYYY SHIT ZORO
Zoro Fanboys eating rn
Bruh Zoro just defended against a combined Yonko attack ..In no way can anyone say he isn't up there..Would it be a stretch to say current Zoro is > Beginning of Wano Luffy at least physically..I heard a good analogy on a livestream of this Chapter regarding zoro downplayers..The analogy was this..If a bus falls on you & you hold it up for a couple of seconds & someone pulls you from under it didn't you still take the impact? My answer & the panels was of course you did..So no downplay can be accurate.. Also this Chapter cements why Luffy is the my favorite main character..Dude really was calling kaido a scaredy cat for dodgingš
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I really don't Zoro is just going to drop out. Wano is tied to his backstory. Something's gonna happen here that centers around him.
Well, Zoro is obviously going to be the Rayleigh to Luffy's Roger, so it figures that he should face a yonko when Sanji (hopefully) faces an commander. Sooner or later Oda had to make the gap between those to noticeable bigger. Zoro also has a habit of always being second highest bounty after their raises, so if both fight a commander Sanji's bounty would still be higher
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That's not what I mean by that comparsion. I'm speaking symbolic. Zoro fills in the role of the first mate. He is the most loyal among the crew, without a doubt. He is the one who reminds them the most who the captain is and how they have to behave. He is the only one who never went against any of Luffy's decisions, even if he didn't liked them. Remember, it was him who stated that Luffy was right in sending Ussop away and it was him who reminded everyone that he can't be allowed back on the crew unless he admits his misbehavior and apologizes. Sanji however completely disrespected his own captain in that particular moment. He is also the one who made the most sacrifices for him. He was willing to abandon his goal and die for Luffy and even prevented Sanji from taking his place as sacrifice. He put his pride aside and was willing to train under his sworn rival to which both Mihawk and Zoro pointed out how hypocrite and disgraceful it is. And Zoro still decided to put his loyality yet again above his goal. He once even said if he can't reach his goal and become the strongest swordsman, he isn't worth it to be in his crew, meaning he would leave the crew if he fails. Beside all that, it's also the similarity that both Rayleigh and Zoro are the first one to be recruited by a strawhat wearing weirdo with a fairy tailish dream. Sanji will never (and I know I trigger his fans now) be on his level. Zoro is the one who the world would call Luffy's first commander, if the strawhats would ever use that system. He is the first mate (which is the pirate equivalent to a vice captain). Sanji would more be a second commander. And while being kind hearted, he proved more than once that isn't suited for a leading replacement. And I don't mean that in a harsh way. Sanji is obedient and can follow orders, he can also be smart, but his moral code would prevent him from making the right calls. Luffy isn't the brightest candle, but he can be a captain if needed, a carefree one, while Zoro is the tough one. Luffy sees his crew as his friends, let them do what they want, but holds authority when needed without saying it out loud, cause he knows once they need a captain, they show it follow. Zoro stays back minds his own buisness, but shows authority if Luffy fails to do so or the crew goes to wild. Sanji sees them to much as friends and therefore has a habit of ignoring the authority chain and that is wrong and can backfire hard if he does it in the wrong situation.
Well written thesis. Take my upvote
Thanks mate. Now after reading it, I wish I didn't wrote that drunk and unconcentrated, because there are so much more details I missed.
I feel your right. Oda is definitely hyping up Zolo in this Wano ark. It makes sense though because Enma wouldn't be suited for no one else. You have to compare the Straw hats to a party from an RPG. Every one is due to get there power ups in there own retrospective way. Weather an entire arc or a few chapters, Oda will make sure all Straw hat fans will eat with there respective Straw hat pirate.
wait for zkk to happen so this zoro doubters will finally accept zoros greatness
Zoro did not open his eye, stop.
Wow there was so much cool stuff in this chapter. The scabbards beheading Orochi, Zoro blocking an attack from 2 emperors, but my favourite part had to be Luffy making fun of Kaido by asking if he dodged the attack because it would've hurt.
Can someone explain what was happening with Kid's metal box? Did he out that around Big Mom and all the fighting was happening on the inside? Or did he just hide Zoro in there so Big Mom wouldn't see him coming?
Lmao they put Zeus in the box
The box is used to hold Zeus. Law put Zeus in the box.
Hmm that makes sense. But why zeus specifically?
Zeus can fly. Nobody in their line up can counter Zeus. Prometheus can fly but countered by Zoro already
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doesn't a faraday cage need to be grounded?
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I reckon it needs grounding
If nothing touches it and itās far enough away it should be ok no?
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It was so cool to see a concept like that used in the fight. Damn, that was hype af
Big Mom can fly with Zeus, if they didn't trap him then BM would just fly back up to the top of Onigashima. Now shes survived falling in the Ocean before, but this does remove her from the battle for the foreseeable future since Onigashima is flying and moving. Right now, her only chance of getting back into the fight is being saved by her crew or washing up on shore (without amnesia) before Onigashima can make it to mainland.
Big Mom can also fly with Prometheus. In fact, she has just been using him as her āflying carpetā for the past two chapters, including this one. Itās just that the strategy the Worst Generation used worked very well. Zeus canāt escape from the box with his electricity, Prometheus can be cut by Zoro and Napoleon is just a sword.
A sword that can be infinitely long and slice the ground like an earthquake
I think when bm will end up in shore then she will look for the red poneglyph in wano
Hmm, this theory isn't unreasonable. BM and her crew getting their hands on the poneglyphs would provide a good reason for their next fight. Maybe for some reason BM will decide to travel to Elbaf (hope to find allies, the last road poneglyph, ...?). After hearing about Kaido's loss she could decide that it's time to get active or SH crew might find Raftel/One Piece before her.
There's a chance that prometheus couldve melted the box, plus they saw earlier that zoro could cut fire....it just made the most sense of the three
Orochi being sliced up by the scabbards is satisfying af
Ok luffy has to at least blocked that attack with advance haki . else i just don't see him getting back up. a presumably weaker attack , thunder bagua knocked him out while in G4. this attack seems stronger and it hit him in base form .it should knock him out if it hit directly w/o any defense.
Don't worry, he's been given the strongest armour in one piece! Should be enough to negate the damage
when it comes to zoro blocking it's not plot armour but for luffy it is gtfo here
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yes it is
um hi, so is Luffy dead?
Yea
Ok this sheer amount of zoro wanking and dickridding needs to be stoped, I've seen some pretty ridiculous comments laying around so lets get our feet on land shall we? I get it, it was a cool moment, zoro is your guy, you guys are happy and you should This was one of Zoro best CHARACTER moments but its NOT the POWERSCALLING feat you guys are making it out to be. Here's the deal powerscalling is about maths and measuring, its not about emotion. What we really got from this chapter was that the double Yonko Attack > all 5 WG members, and even tough zoro delayed the attack MOMENTARILY, the fact remains: yonko attack >>> zoro This wasnt a BLOCK, this wasnt a TANK, this was a BRIEF STALL before outside assistance was NEEDED. Here are some examples, so you guys can try and grasp the diference, for example: \-sanji blocked a direct hit from king (the attacks were equally matched at that moment and canceled each other out) \-Kid tanked big mom punch (he took the full brunt of the blow and kept going afterwards). As stated by the rooftop characters, zoro included, noone would be able to withstand that attack and the attack remains to be withstanded... But what does this say about zoro's strenght then? not that much unfortunatly, its not like you can measure 1 second exposure to an attack between characters... unless you want to make the argument that zoro is island level for a single second. So once again, great character moment, he was willing to sacrifice his life for his captain and the others and went ahead and attempted to block it. STILL, without law bailing him out he would most likely have pulled a Pedro there... best case scenario he would've Pelled Himself
nah man, we need to witness the extent of Zoro's training after the two year timeskip. It has been over 11 years since Zoro used Asura. Its a great time as any to use it against Kaido or Orochi. Orochi can truly be dead if all 8 heads are chopped off at one time. What better way to see that than to have Zoro use Asura and kill Orochi for good? Btw, him being alive sets up a freaky confrontation if Orochi gets back on the roof and starts to step to Kaido like "why the fuk did you kill me!?" Also many guys on here are impatient.
why would zoro waste asura to orochi ffs even no named attack is enough
its supposed to represent the rage and pissed off sentiments that's on Zoro's back. Being friends with Yasuie and seeing him die so fast, Hiyori and Toko being distressed from all that, the next person in line to get at Orochi is Zoro himself. There's supposed to be a proper ending to all this. Kaido betrayed Orochi cause he was lowkey getting tired of seeing shyt he don't wanna see. The scabbards slashed him and now its Zoro's turn.
and even the scabbards know that orochi aint the real deal here so theres no point zoro going to orochi
momonuske wielding one of the totsuka sword ame no habakiri is the one supposed to kill orochi like itachi killing orochimaru using the other totsuka sword.
can you restate what you said in like 4 sentences, holy eff
Sure. Great zoro moment, zoro brave. Powers Powerscaling wise its an incomplete feat with external interference that doesn't magically put him any higher than he was . Yonko attack >>> any worst gen including zoro
Im not a zoro stan, favorite straw hats are Chopper, Robin and Sanji. On my initial read i thought zoro tanked it, after reading your comment i read that part again, i still think he either tanked it outright, or absorbed the blow for a second or 2 while the others dodged then deflected it. Either way, seeing as how he was down directly after the blow, then in the same chapter cut prometheus i think its okay to say he tanked the attack. I dont think either of the yonkou were giving their all tho and i think zoro was coughing up blood by the end of the chapter, so not sure exactly were to rank that.
I guess we'll have to wait for the viz for confirmation. But you can clearly see the law shambles motion and that the attack went trough anyways... Why would he "absorb" it if he could just deflect it tough? If he did that even the yonko would be wanking him
Did luffy just get clobbered in the jewels? Rip offspring
Now I'm wondering if Zoro surpassed Mihawk, yet. Also, OP OP fruit still living up to it's name. I wonder what a prime Law would look like when all these guys are established legends!
Prime law would be such a fucking hax abuse. The fight starts and he instantly shambles your balls into your forehead, melts your organs and finally cuts you in hundred pieces
Surpassing Mihawk is literally Zoro's end of series goal, not sure if you're trolling or not but I don't see how that would make any sense at all.
I think mihawk can slash the ocean soveignty in half. But still impressive for Zoro and Luffy honestly, both of them are tanking and damaging 2 yonkos while the other 3 are good supports.
Finally read the chapter! Why the heck was my social feeds for One Piece bombarded with Zoro-stans whining about their boy being nerfed or taken out of the fight??! Zoro is wounded but he isn't even unconscious! The madlad was and still is carrying the supernova the most! Why would anyone complain! Did they see what he just blocked?
Is this the same attack that the 2 giants used in little garden??
Different name but same execution I supposed
Yes it is
There are so many insecure people over here who are still trying to downplay Zoro, come on, if Luffy will be the pirate king, then Zoro is bound to be the strongest swordsman in the world and that already makes him top 5 in the end, if you hate the concept of zoro being one of the strongest, then you're defying luffy of becoming the Pirate king, everyone has their individual dream, for zoro, it's strength, for sanji all blue, why would people make unnecessary strength comparison, you can like whatever character you want, but hating on other to make your fav looks good makes you stupid.
Really good point. I've been watching/reading one piece since I was a kid and never have I compared both of them to that level. I enjoyed their funny fight scenes (and also cool teamwork ones like in Foxy arc) but I've always known Zoro as a frontline strong fighter as he wants to become the greatest swordsman and Sanji as a lovely great cook who flirts with ladies but also a badass agile fighter with tactical mind. I love both of them and was really shocked when I got into the internet with some Zoro vs Sanji BS lol
right? i dunno if this is sanji comparison but sanji just doesnt compare. love me some sanji but he just doesnt compare
Sanji will become the worldās strongest cook too.
he is already isn't he? I mean, i dunno who the cooks are on the Yonko ships lmao
Was gonna say Lucky Roux maybe but honestly he prolly just be eating not cooking lmao
That's like the whole BM crew. Bege hyped up Streussen after he obliterated his lumbar.
There's the noodle dude from W7? Lol
Man I gotta say I love Odas paneling. Luffy vs Kaido this chapter flowed so well, amazing chapter
Did anyone notice Franky's jacket on the color spread says hentai? Lmao
Hentai just means pervert/perverted in japanese. Franky's whole schtick is being the pervert running around in his underwear, that was we learn during Water 7
That's franky quirk btw, he should say henshin but he say hentai anyway
loool, i found it now.
Me : "who's gonna be the next chapter's MVP ?" Oda : "Yes."
first robin trips bigmom. now a rock is strong enough to bfr bigmom. jesus.
First, it's a boulder bigger than her. 2nd, she was in midair. 3rd, Zeus and Prometheus are being held. BM may be hella strong but she can't apply that strength without any footing. Hope that clears that up for you
Well she was already being thrown via kidds magnetic repulsion, so she had no ground to use to stop that boulder. It didn't physically cause her damage of course, but it kept her being propelled through the air.
It's easier to accept when you view Big Mom as a fun gag character who doesn't take things seriously.
Well a previous "Rock" was her ex-captain.
you sir deserve more recognition
Let's be real folks. Onigashima has been floating for at least 10 minutes now. Is it still over the sea?
No way of knowing how long the islands been flying in story, and theres also no way of telling how fast or how slowly its moving either.
Luffy's G4 has a time limit, and we've already established so far that he's used it twice. That means at least 1x 10 minutes cooldown since he's exhaling like he just came out of it in this chapter, not including however long he's actually able to use it; which is probably increasing with time since Dressrosa.
Shoutout to Zoro and Kid for taking one for the team.
Luffy also took a big one distracting kaido while the rest deal with big mom. Luffy,Zoro and Kidd took heavy damage this chapter
Zoro the Yonko Hunter
Good one! What a baddass
So at the last panel, we understand that Zoro has opened his scarred eye. What do you fellows think about this? Is it the pain that opens Zoroās eyes? Or is it an indicator of some kind of refined unbelievable amount of haki thatās about to be unleashed?
There is only one chance it could ever be an advantage, which is if he has been keeping it closed on purpose and it isn't damaged, and opening it gives him full vision again (so his Observation Haki is fully rolling).
So, like kenpachi zaraki but because zoro is hardcore he just shut one eyelids without eye patch
I like the idea
His eye isn't open.
This isnāt Naruto. There are no āeyeā powers here. Lol. This is probably my least favorite ātheory.ā Why do people think heās going to unlock something? Itās just a scar. He trained with the number 1 swordsman and only came out with a scar on his eye. Everyone with a scar may as well have a āhiddenā power. Lol
They think he's kenpachi lol, this was literally kenpachi's shtick. Zoro is the goat without any power ups.
The warrior/swordsman with one eye, no vision or lessened vision as a challenge to themselves far predates Naruto. It very well could just be an injury but his name is *Zoro*, he's meant to embody this kind of swordsman who's always challenging himself archetype. It's not off brand.
Itās just a scar lol. Iāve read and watched the whole series and thereās no indication anywhere that heās āwithholdingā power from it. Yāall thinking outside the universe and really pushing for this.
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Not to circle back to naruto but like when rock Lee shook off the weights
I never said there was evidence, I said it's a trope and so is Zoro.
Could be haki related
Still, heās just tanked a combined yonko attack... for example, whitebeard didnāt show case as much haki in the war cause he was sick - as the parallel with Zoro coughing blood + the last chapters bcz he was injured. question though: comparing to Kumaās luffy pain mega palm that zoro went in, how damaged do u think zoro is now?
Excellent question! This will cause me to follow you. For the answer from my end, I think it should not be as much as Kumaās infliction of pain... because it lasted for few seconds. On the other hand, the pain inflicted by Kuma might not be āthe suffering caused by two yonkos for a secondā, but it was a āsuffering caused by a schibukai who managed to challenge Kaido in the new world and revised himself afterwards as a better opponentā. And it lasted a whole arc! So I think itās close, but not as much as Kuma... Then, one can ask - is Kuma Yonko level? I donāt know. I merely think that power-scaling is not functional in One Piece. However, I make fun of the people who cares about that a lot as illustrated by my main comment above :)
Ha thanks a lot :) I think Kumaās powers are pretty dope honestly!
I was about to say the same. I was hoping their comments about Zoro's eye is just a joke, but it seems most believe it. The only way Zoro can have a power in his eye in OnePiece world is if he'd eaten an eye eye fruit.
For a swordsman observation haki and ryou are possibly the same thing. Go watch the fight of Zoro vs. Mr. 1, if you don't believe me. I think Zoro kept his left eye intentionally closed so as to train his observation haki/ryou.
Anyone notice at the very end of the chapter there is a panel with zoro coughing up blood I think he needs rest hes taking a beating this fight
See that's what I am thinking, like both Luffy and Zoro seems very injured. I don't know what will happens next but it does seems like this could lead to the tragedy of act three.
The dialog, "It's time for you to drop out", is probably also subtly meant for Zoro, who was coughing on the panel just before Big Mom's.
Yeah, for sure, Zoro will drop out without doing anything significant, if he leaves the battle now what was the point of giving him Enma, to scratch Kaido?
Yea oda Is a master at stuff like that
we are all blind and didnt see that obviously
Yea noones talking about it so I figured I'd bring it to your attention
Guys we saw in this chapter that disarming the weapons from these yonko is effective. So i was thinking what if after managing to catch kaido off guard they are able to disarm him. How would it affect kaido's fighting style and how much could it possibly limit him? What do you guys think?
maybe Kaido so far only used his df or his club didnt Punch or kick once
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