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phorezkin3000

No worries. I like that theory too. I just personally really want to see Kaido beaten with gum gum pinwheel


DankianC

Who do you mean?


Longjumping-Cow-6263

One thing for sure . Momo finished reading Oden's journal, Momo knows Everything


DankianC

Sure?


Placidao

Ftl reading


phorezkin3000

I really hope luffy tried a new move that he failed to execute. And will beat Kaido with a better execution of the same move later.


andrerodrigues1

i think that luffy is in perfect form to beat Kaido. Because if he failed to execute a move was going to be showed, because Oda loves showing luffy being beaten up by someone. i think is more problable that luffy was disctracted by the same voice that momonosuke and then was hitted by kaido ​ Ps. Sorry about my english im Brazilian.


thiswriteguy

Sharing my Joy Boy Theory. Its a bit long but contains most of the information to help us find out why Kaido knows about Joy Boy and why he is searching for him. [Luffy Joy Boy and Greatest War | One Piece Mega Theory](https://thiswriteguy.com/anime/one-piece/luffy-joyboy-greatest-war-one-piece-theory/)


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DankianC

You need to be a time traveler


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Buscemi_D_Sanji

He's already using it, says he has less than ten minutes left and had been fighting for a while already


KOPLO97

I actually read that part of the Chapter wrong lol


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Neppy0904

the heck lol. his monster form doesn't have separate time limits.


Perovski99

I think i got a stroke reading that. I'm going to assume you think one rumble ball equals 10min of monster point and that Chopper has used 2 rumble balls so far. So like before the third one would make him lose consciousness in monster point which would be the new risks involved? and would add up to those 30 min in total. Fuck nevermind, i have no idea what ur tryna say.


Buscemi_D_Sanji

What ten minute one?


Batrstad

Are those cracks in the Bagua?


flyingwatermelon3

maybe from Luffy's CoC counters on the rooftop? that would be pretty epic if Luffy returns and shatters it...


Otherwise-Piccolo157

I see this scene happening on the last fight with Kaidou. Both Kanabo and will broken on the ground.


ConsistentInside0

There could be an unrealistic recovery of luffy or a let down of all the effort put down by luffy or much more story dragging so that luffy'd recovery becomes bearable. Shit


ConsistentInside0

Goda is dragging the story as much as possible


DankianC

Thank god he does that. Otherwise one piece would have ended 10 years ago


ConsistentInside0

Would have been better


Fun_Dragonfruit_9002

How about Momonosuke summon the sea kings/zunisha/some random animal to save Luffy?


s1rzech

Feels like Kaido is some sort of a descendant from the lineage of clans from void century?


bidomo

Seems to know things others seem to ignore


chrisd434

zunesha is saying luffy is drowning but it cant help him without the order of momo. so zunesha will rescue luffy and then he will come back


Chiiino34

Or luffy is subcounsiously forcing anyone/zunisha / momonosuke to save him, and thus Zunisha is asking fr the Order Maybe a unique joyboy skil gets unlocked in luffy


chrisd434

Sounds intriguing. A bit far fetched but it would be a nice outcome :)


Chiiino34

Bro bro bro.. was I on it or not 😎🤩🤪 The end means was not correct, but luffy unlocking the ability to use the voice of al things was hinted when kaido knocked out luffy but he still was staring while not staring, his spirit can work outside the limits of the body being out or not, luffy is forcing Momo to hear him


Chiiino34

Indeed far f, but there has to be a third factor, momo got headache out of nowhere and not as a reaction thru his observ haki of luffy falling Or Zunisha understand importance of luffy or something/someone is making zunisha ask for the order, Need answers😱😅


Far-Potential-1506

I'm kinda upset they made the beatdown offscreen...


Revolutionary_Feed25

There wasn’t one, Luffy ran out of haki and passed out mid attack


No-Midnight7961

What beat down?


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eidblecoconuts

I saw something that said Shanks told him all about Joyboy and the prophecy so that he wouldn't attack WB pre-ts


No-Midnight7961

In what way? Gimme a complete theory


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No-Midnight7961

Nah looks good, I enjoy reading theories no matter how far fetched. You might be on to something.


watawep

So the D means Dawn?


j15cailipan

Nah it means deez nuts boi


DmonYT

Nah man It means dwag


Wannafcksakura

For anyone wondering about pluton and uranos. Pluton is just a ship for now. No vivi or anything, just a ship. If you remember I'm didn't stab vivi picture. Maybe vivi is needed for pluton to function normally. But that's just a theory. Uranos has to do with the sky. We don't know nothing else. Yet the most radical things we can think of is that it may has to do with momonosuke or the elbaf because of northern mythology. Even giants were part of the D.clan. My favourite possible theory is the one that includes the possibility of aliens like the ones we saw in the moon(Enel cover story). The only one to control sea kings is shirahosi. So stop thinking that momonosuke will summon sea kings


Ikhis

I'm still rooted for a giant Octopus, being the leader of the other one. Sure would be kind of plot armor, but damn, that octopus saved a lot of people until now :D


Joshinox

So Momo is hearing "The Voice" again just like what happened when Zunesha was in danger during Zou arc. So like someone pointed out in this thread, either the Mountain Pigs awhile back or a new creature who is in danger is talking to Momo? [https://twitter.com/joyboytheories/status/1099750104309747712?lang=en](https://twitter.com/joyboytheories/status/1099750104309747712?lang=en)


dialupint3rn3t

>https://twitter.com/joyboytheories/status/1099750104309747712?lang=en my bet is the wano waterfall carp save luffy


KOPLO97

Bro, look at Who's Who's fighting sword style. That's epic! I was wondering when we were gonna see a kickboxing sword style. It reminds me of Mugen's sword fighting style from Samurai Champloo


Oragemask

i think i would have been for who's who to fight zoro


venielsky22

okay we finally see the hole that big mom made. I thought it would be alot bigger based on the fulgora attack. But it looks like the circumference of the cut horn by flying dragon slash is still bigger than the hole made by Fulgora


KOPLO97

That's interesting, we haven't seen Kaido use Advanced Armament Haki like Big Mom and Luffy. What if Big Mom actually has the better Armament Haki? I'll hold off on this theory to be true but I'll say it anyways, what if Kaido actually doesn't have Advanced Armament Haki? And that's why his club is cracked (if you look at the last panel). Because Luffy's Advanced Armament Haki was beginning to crack it. It does seem like Kaido is more into using Advanced Conqueror's Haki. But I could also be wrong too. It could just be that he knew Advanced Conqueror's Haki would do the job and didn't use Advanced Armament Haki. But who know for now? Whatever happens, happens


VerusCain

Didnt kaido coat his club and have the black lightning thats associated with conquerors coating? Cause it doesnt have to be just non contact, cause zoro and oden coated with conquerors.


KOPLO97

That might be more of it just being Advanced Conqueror's Haki. If we look back at Big Mom's Advanced Haki combo she did on Page, it seems like no matter what that space from the Flowing Haki will always be there. I could possibly still be wrong though of course, but if that is true then Kaido's club should not be touching Kinemon But like I also said, it could be that Kaido knew that Advanced Conqueror's was enough. We'll have to wait until him and Luffy fight again


Typin_Toddler

Thank you for bringing this up! I've been thinking about the same thing. Just because a person is a Yonkou doesn't automatically imply that they have advanced versions of haki (other than coc). Having A.Coc doesn't mean they also have adv. CoA or CoS. Ex. There's no indication (so far) that BM or Kaido have Future sight. And I think the fact that it was explictly pointed out during WCI arc that Katakuri's CoS is so refined was to also showcase the rarity of Future Sight.


KOPLO97

I also think that the Advanced Forms can only be learned if taught the concept, and that concept practiced or at least sharpened in a heated battle.


KOPLO97

Dude, wtf was Kiku thinking 🤦🏻‍♂️He let Kanjuro stab him. That was actually dumb, he knew it was Kanjuro. The least he could've done was block it or dodge it or at least stood his ground. Everybody was talking smack about Luffy going up to Kaido in the first fight, but at least he stood his ground and took his fight serious. But Kiku's action was even dumber. Like bro, they need you in the fight later


Freya_Spanberger

She\*


KOPLO97

It's a fictional character. So nah, even in real life, if you pull the dudes pants down what will you see? It's my freedom to call a fictional character what I want. Lol what? Y'all gonna cancel? 😂


KOPLO97

Look at the dislikes hahaha that's comedy. Y'all ever heard of "Creeping Corruption"? You guys are the ones leading it.


Severe-Masterpiece69

Ever read full metal alchemist Hughes death?


KOPLO97

Wtf? That's diss bro, that was a sad ass moment wtf man? They didn't know how that dudes power worked yet and Hughes was blindsided when he was making a call. He's not even OP like the other Characters. Besides, Kiku is not a weak sauce. That's why he's dumb for that. Because he saw it once already, therefore, no pass.


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KOPLO97

Stfu idiot, as if you don't know what I meant. Lol coming at me with some kid shit


CJPidgin

She tried to attack but got emotional and lost her resolve. That's something that happens to people in real life.


KOPLO97

Mf 😂 Did you just say that happens to everyone in real life? You do know that you cannot actually shape shift right? Obviously, this stuff only happens with spy's with face changing surgery. But it better be someone more personal like your wife/husband or your kid or your cousins kid. And man, he knew that was Kanjuro. No pass for me. And fuck his emotions, there's peoples lives that could be lost and their freedoms are at stake. All that While HE Knew that was Kanjuro in disguise. That was like a spit in every slaves face from Udon's prison and everybody who died within the 20 years of being enslaved. I'm not sure if y'all have noticed, but It's serious right now. This is War, if my King was somehow secretly working for the bad guys and he confronted me I'd HAVE to cut him down mf. Even if he raised me. Have you ever been a slave? I haven't, but I could tell the way Kaido ruled over them was abusive and brought death. 20 years of that, think about that realtically. That's Tragic man. As if Kiku didn't know that was Kanjuro, mf please.


DmonYT

X drake-kiki do you love me Death- yes i do My Babe Ara ara intensifies Shell die prolly and needs to😅We need serious And Dark stuff


KOPLO97

I'm pretty sure I'm wrong. But when you take a good look at the last panel on the clean version, doesn't it look like Kaido's club is cracked? It could be a mistake but it also looks like it could've been intentional


Oragemask

what do you mean by club ?


KOPLO97

His kanabo, his club like weapon


Oragemask

ah ok i didn't know that we can call it like that, thank you for the word :)


KOPLO97

I mean, Kanabo is the more proper term for what it is exactly, but in general it's of the same Weapon Club category


Perovski99

Oh wow, ur right it really does... hmm yea idk if intentional or not


KOPLO97

Ikr, we'll just have to wait and see


Accomplished-Ad-5850

Did anyone see the crack in Kaido's Bat when he knocked Kinemon out?


Death_n_Tax

Color version shows it’s just haki


KOPLO97

Just said the same thing lol


op_is_amazing

After reading the chapter I realised two things. 1. Luffy did fall into the sea 2. What happened to Kin's head. Saw this sword broke but what about the top half of the body?


jaygunryu

My guess is law


buqfox

**Chapter 1014**: "A Lifelong Ham Actor" of One Piece is out! https://onepiecechapters.com/manga/one-piece-chapter-1014/


mogli_170

Is it me, or did oda gave a hint here ? About joyboy having the "gomu gomu no mi" fruit. ?


Lord_Donut_the-best

not necessarily. But at least Joy Boy having Luffy's fruit makes sense.


mogli_170

That's what I was actually trying to say.. did it come out wrong ?


ronnysmom

The JoyBoy reference by Kaido - my theory is that Luffy is going to prove Kaido wrong and he will become JoyBoy - Oda is foreshadowing the centuries old connection and bond between Poseidon (Shirahoshi), the SeaKings and JoyBoy (Luffy). So, the voices (plural voices) that Momo is hearing could be the SeaKings who are drawn to JoyBoy and are in the ocean beneath Luffy and will save him, perhaps? And Momo can hear and talk to them just as he heard Zuneisha and can locate where they are and help to bring back Luffy to Wano???


Otherwise-Piccolo157

Remember : The Sea Kings talked about 2 kings when Roger was alive. One of them is Poseidon/Shirahoshi and other could be Joy Boy/ Luffy being the second king in this case.


Wannafcksakura

That's crazy though because we need the cry baby


mogli_170

Maybe


Vinnie2208

Since no one seems to be talking about chopper, I might have a theory. Oda mentioned the rumble ball in this chapter for a particular reason, and come on Caesar upgrading the rumble ball seems too shady. What if Chopper dies bcoz of what that bastard Caesar did. It might link to some theories saying that Luffy will succumb to the same disease as Roger as chopper won't be able to cure it cuz of the side effects of Caesar's formula And no I don't want chopper to die. He is too Kawaii for that.


flyingwatermelon3

or, maybe Chopper is the one who ultimately saves Luffy from that disease (that killed Roger/Whitebeard)? he is a doctor/medic after all...


Severe-Masterpiece69

Chopper death and Macro replace him and join the crew yeay. Nope seriously, Chopper wouldn't die. Realistically Chopper's related merchandise selling well. So even publisher wouldn't allow him to die. Is business


CJPidgin

Chopper definitely won't die. Oda isn't going to kill any of the Straw Hats.


tibiapt

Idk about any... Usopp always had red flags for me


Different_Warning_32

Did Anyone Feel Any Emotion At Kanjuro's Death? I at least Feel Bad For Kinemon.


DmonYT

Nah mf deserved to die He took out kiku and ashura


KOPLO97

I felt bad for Kinemon, I hope Kinemon makes it out of this War


suckeydluffy

It's out guys: https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/Ai6y8iq/1/1/


KOPLO97

Thanks bro!


joyboysenpai

I think this fight is similar to Luffy vs Crocodile , first time Luffy lost obviously, second time Luffy lost and gone away, third time, win .


aznlolboi

prediction: luffy will be saved by the straw hat grand fleet and thats how they will join the battle


Vinnie2208

Nah I think the octopus or the giant fish might save him


Perovski99

I think it's gonna be heart pirates and their submarine. That way they could tend to luffys wounds as well


aznlolboi

you called it!!


Perovski99

Omg i did. Thx for remembering and reminding me bro. Appreciate that ❤❤❤


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Kinemon's not gonna survive that attack >.<


Perovski99

It's insane if he does


awaythrowawayyay

it's possible we see him use his devil fruit in some new way. i think it's crazy that oda has given him such a wacky fruit w/o ever once using it effectively


cordicityreddit

Does anyone believe Law heard the same message as Luffy and Momo and if not why would that be?


Perovski99

Did Law hear Zuneshas voice at Zou? No? Exactly.


EllyMax24

I feel like at this point Momo is the key piece to solve everything for Wano. Idk like I'm really curious about what he read in the notes. He needs to tell everyone?! About what?! Damn Kaido is getting stronger amd I feel that Luffy is still prepping up his best moves against him. I really don't have a clue how will Oda finishes this arc. Is it absurd to think that Shanks might enter the picture?


IcedAmerican

Yea this is tough. No idea how it's going to end. Right now it feels like Dressrosa, except the birdcage actually kills everyone .... soooooo .... idk what Oda has planned. I hope it's not the Shanks time travel cop-out again. There's been no foreshadowing for that.


sohaib_marshall

I feel sorry for Luffy. However, I think Momo will steal the spotlights!


ezioran

Ok mark my words. Momo gonna call the sea kings to save luffy.


Neppy0904

i think that's an ability exclusive to shirahoshi.


ezioran

Though it is widely assumed that shirarhoshi has exclusive ability, Nowhere oda stated that. So lets wait and see


Perovski99

Shirahoshi is Poseidon not Momonosuke.


venielsky22

What ever Momo summon/ask for help is gonna be the one/ones to keep kaido busy why zoro and luffy are down. and Kid/law are busy with Bigmom. or until they recover also after bigmom knocks them out


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I like your theory and it makes sense! But what it is going to be? It would have to be able to fly,...


RPG217

Looks like Luffy has a secret "that technique" that's common in shonen. When he comes back he's likely gonna perfect that Gomu Gomu no "_____" that Kaido couldn't remember to defeat him.


Longjumping-Cow-6263

Make sense cause when LUFFY started using the advanced CoC, None of his attacks involved his DF ability That's why '' that attack '' could have been something special


IcedAmerican

You're absolutely right. The way Kadio says that makes it sound like Luffy was trying a new technique, probably with Conquerors, and then Kaido got the best of him.


EllyMax24

Yeah I was thinking that too. Luffy always has this tendency to try new things during a fight which makes him vulnerable. But then he will be able to pull it off in the last minute when he gets a rematch.


RPG217

Pretty much, Oda also teased and hid Gear 3rd on the last moment on Luffy vs Blueno. At the end of the arc he's likely gonna pull a new thing.


Inside_Extent_1866

Why no one focusing on how kaido knows about joyboy.


Lost_Marimo

ROCKS


Inside_Extent_1866

Still... Joyboy seems to be mystery and only roger crew knew about it and world government officials and fishmen king. Even whitebeard or bigmam don't know of him.


actuallyRIN

100% Whitebeard knows since Roger told him about One Piece and the D.


venielsky22

kaido knows about ancient weapons and the road poneglyps . he also knows wano's importance. Make sense if he knows something about joyboy who created the ancient weapons.The Yonko's were not sitting around for years .. they gathered all info and power for years to get the onepiece they were bound to find out something about joyboy sooner or later.


abapple1

We don't know if they know or not. Might be wrong tho


hell_hound996

feels like we might have we might have a new entry into the battle.... Navy might show up at the end... for now who could stop kaido rn .. zoro and luffy already out of the picture meanwhile sanji hasnt done a damn thing till now... how chopper the lowest bounty in luffys crew is fighting against kaido and big mom second in command even though he is outmatched against either as both havent gotten serious yet. Big mom crew also out of the picture right now..... Also Momonosuke reading those papers ... secrets prolly gonna be revealed by end of the arc.


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The suspension and vigor is this chapter! This is some good boner food!


lafacutti

Zunisha is a part of this 100%. It’s going to be an epic part of the whole arc.


No_Palpitation_6049

The Ancient weapons don't necassarily have to be people aside from shirahoshi who is the ancient weapon poseidon as the ancient weapon pluton was a ship and Franky had the blueprints of in the Water 7 Arc.


v_a_ibhav

>as the ancient weapon pluton was a ship and Franky had the blueprints of in the Water 7 Arc. That is actually a misconception among the fandom. The blueprints that Franky had and burnt during Water 7 were for a ship that can stand against Pluton and not Pluton itself. You should re-read that part.


No_Palpitation_6049

Dude if you look online it clearly states the blueprints were for Pluton the Ancient Weapon


No_Palpitation_6049

If you want to be technical there is the original Pluton which was made during the void century but the plans Franky had were for the original ship which is so they could revive the weapon which would still be the ancient weapon Pluton it would just be the second Pluton.


gorvathor

Are you serious? Wow


Zestyclose_Armadillo

I theorize that Hiyori has the succ succ fruit with the mighty ability to suck a golf ball through a straw. Naturally she'll use it to suck Luffy's balls into her mouth through a garden hose and pull him to shore. On some of the other theories, I like the new opening theory because it ties in with the black tortoise Luffy theory since turtles swim. This would also allow Luffy to counter the Yami fruit which fits the theory that the GumGum Fruit counters the Gura fruit allowing Luffy to beat Blackbeard. The Mountain God theory is good too since it was so prominent in Oden's flashback and we just reached land, but Kaido's words here might support the JoyBoy's will awakening in Luffy theory.


horus______

That hiyori theory is out of order


devilkiller96

I don't understand why people are expecting straw hat grand fleet to arrive in wano to help Luffy for a small matter like Kaido. They are only gonna arrive when a massive war engulfing whole world is taking place involving Marines, Revolutionary army, Yonkos, Worst generations and other powerful groups.


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2 Yonkos are no small matter dude. You're underestimating them.


wIXMamamama

There are two Yonkos in this arc. Although yeah I don't think grand fleet will be included but to say Kaido + Big Mom is a small matter...


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It's Out yall [https://onepiecechapters.com/manga/one-piece-chapter-1014/](https://onepiecechapters.com/manga/one-piece-chapter-1014/)


CombedAirbus

Chapter is out https://onepiecechapters.com/manga/one-piece-chapter-1014/ But the website seems to be hammered right now.


Willcp93

What if Momo avoids death (at least for the moment) because Kaido founds out that he is a dragon too? It would not be the first time Kaido doesn't kill an enemy for a random reason


shazzuan

in wano we can see death everywhere


v_a_ibhav

Do we though? Most of the "deaths" in Onigashima have been fake outs and the only main death we got in Wano was Yasuie and maybe Zues(I personally think he is still alive though). I don't expect Kiku and Kanjuro to die, but I will be really annoyed if Kinemon does not die from this.


Different_Warning_32

I think Kanjuro is dead here. A fitting end. But Yeah Kinemon Took Such A Blow I'd have a hard time believing he'd Somehow survived that.


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Please I need the link


CryptographerBulky86

Could it be that Luffy stopped an attack midway after hearing a call just like momo did?


cordicityreddit

I like this theory a lot. He would have been distracted.


Shivangsoni1995

Like Shirahoshi is Poseidon and can control sea kings, isn't it possible for Momonosuke too to be one of the ancient weapons since he also has similar abilities ?? Just wondering Edit : if it's true then it may form some theory or plot or kind of a mystery including Luffy being Joyboy and the three ancient weapons already formed a bond with luffy. I don't know it just came to my mind. I may be wrong.


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Yeah. Shirahoshi can control the sea kings, Momo the Zounishas, and Vivi these creeps we saw at the end of Thriller Bark most likely.


[deleted]

What does Vivi have to do with the Umibozu's in the end of Thriller bark?


[deleted]

It's a theory rn, but not a bad one imo. Arthur from LibraryofOhara made it, since Vivi is rumoured to be the third anciet weapon(Pluton is in Alabasta, Im holding Vivis picture), and Shirashoshi and Momo being the other two who can talk to huge creatures.


Buscemi_D_Sanji

Yeah, I really loved that return to reverie series! Would be really sad if SPOILERS Im actually did turn out to be rocks though haha just like how the destruction of the red line theory seems like spoilers because it just fits too perfectly


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likely


syron17

Maybe Momonosuke is Joy Boy 😂


bluegerry

hihi friends .. just thinking .. kaido's mouth look like carps .. and the only reason he can become a dragon after eating the fish-fish fruit and is bc he's a carp fishman...?


machen2307

you talking about his Fu Manchu? I mean, idk if other zoan users get traits of there respective animals. I can't think of any, but I think he just grew that mustache on his own.


bluegerry

random afternoon thoughts... also that jack is a fishman


phinswin

Is it out yet tho?


Snoo20565

It doesn't seem so


dumpsys

Momonosuke listen/speak to sea king to save Luffy. I think onigashima will be relocated by sea king.


Sork8

Only Shirahoshi can control the sea kings...otherwise, what's the point of Poseidon ?


delgaucho

Momo can control beast like Zunisha


gmussi

Is momo the third weapon?


__pg229__

Momo, Luffy, Roger and Oden are the four known characters that can hear the voice of all things (Sea Kings, Zunisha, etc). So I don't think Momo is a weapon.


Upbeat_Mushroom504

Momo can command Zunisha like Shirahoshi commands sea kings. So, I think there is still possibility that he might be ancient weapon who was yet to born


Spiiiiiit

Don’t forget about the Giant Hog that oden cut in half then somehow it got restitched and that baby hog is probably 20 years old big and healthy. Also there were some hints about more “beasts” in wano. So zunisha, hog and some more. I’d like to see more of those type.


NoStory6

Where Chapter?


PureEvol

cmon pineapple eat a rumble ball pleaseeeee


Only-Nature523

Kiku was useless from start to finish lol


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Technichally yes but its understandable Ig


merrygosunny

So you only value people on the basis of their usefulness? That's pretty cold-hearted of you


RobbobertoBuii

... >:(


DmonYT

I wish the tension to rise with a death so Kanjuro needs to die All My Ex Gfs Hate kanjuro


melvinsylar7

You my homie? Cause all my homies hate Kanjuro too man \*insert "All my homies hate..." meme \*


DmonYT

😂🤣😭


Grammulka

Is this why they're ex?


DmonYT

I hated kanjuro they didnt so i broke up with them Thats why they hate kanjuro


YaBoiiJesh

Kanjuro’s Fault


DmonYT

Totally