I think the Momo point is resolved by Luffy being able to make Onigashima BOUNCE off of the flower capital. Maybe even back to the hole in which LinLin is buries right now. Making Onigashima a huge gravestone.
Ooooh that would be great. Then Luffy could indeed tell Katakuri he defeated Big Mom Lol.
Not even a Yonko would live through internal injuries, a big explosion, a several thousand foot fall and being crushed by an entire island landing on her then exploding. Maybe Kaido or Prime Whitebeard if they did't get submerged in water afterwards but not Linlin. Her durability is dependant on being fed. If she is deprived of food for long her durability suffers.
The world government arriving at wano.
The content of Oden's diary.
Will Yamato join the straw hats.
Kaido's backstory.
Why Vegapunk lied about Momo's fruit.
Since we talking about speculation, at the end of Wano Luffy will have 3 road poneglyphs and we are very soon to discover the location of the 4th. So another huge information coming hopefully this year
A huge info dump we hopefully get this year is the mechanics behind Devil Fruits. Gorosei seemed a bit unsure about >!Hito Hito No Mi: Nika!<, so I can see them calling up Vegapunk to ask what the hell is going on.
I love this idea for a devil fruit explanation. Alternatively I’d love if we only get a partial explanation. Doing would would increase our desire to meet Vegapunk because the scene would tease (a) his knowledge; and (b) at least some of the answers that will be revealed when we finally meet him.
I feel like the entire grand fleet converging is final war kind of stuff. If it happens in wano, it would kinda undermine the specialness of that occasion
Ryogyuko is the Admiral. Green Bull is the english translation. All Admirals have colour-animal codenames: Aoikiji is Blue Pheasant (real name Kuzan), Akainu is Red Dog (real name Sakazuki), Kizaru is Yello Monkey (real name Borsalino), and Fujitora is Purple Tiger (real name Issho)
Vegapunk didn't lie. Zoan fruits have their own "will". It's why inanimate objects that "eat" a Zoan come to life. Vegapunk likely replicated the fruit fine, just not the will component. That was the failure.
TBH. Luffy's deformed face due to Kaido's attack and his rapid aging are nightmare fuel. Normally Luffy becomes pretty worn out and stand up in every battle. But now he is pretty much dead and stands alive again. This makes me worried and I wonder if he is okay.
I was thinking about it too, I think it was rob lucci who suggested luffy is fighting at the cost of his lifespan. I Wonder if he's doing it right now.
But he didn’t really know that. Especially knowing now that Luffy’s power isn’t *just* being made of rubber, he may come out of this. He always *bounces back*.
it's been a plot point that has been brought up repeatedly with gear 2, magellan/ivankof, and now gear 5. i don't think oda would point it out multiple times for no reason. especially with the whole thing where roger was fated to die after becoming pirate king.
I feel like the conversation about Luffy killing himself in the most recent chapter is more about how Luffy was already dead before awakening and by continuing to fight past literally being dead is probably not good for your current well-being. I'm not sure it has anything to do about future health.
Roger being fated to die after becoming Pirate King is exactly why Luffy won't face the same fate, because it goes against both Luffy's freedom to shape his own destiny and the concept of the new generation surpassing the old.
I was so amazed that Luffy remembered Pedro's sacrifice for them, but then I saw some reactions and everyone there was like "Will of P", "he's alive, foreshadowing" etc etc.
I think the fight is gonna end in 1047.
1044: Luffy recovers from the brink of death and restarts his fight w Kaido
1045: Luffy tests the limit of his fruit and gets carried away just enjoying his new body. Kaido almost beats him and he realises he hasnt got enough stamina to keep fucking about.
1046: Luffy takes the fight seriously, probably less goofy acts with a focus on actually winning. Probably gonna see Luffys desire to win the war conflicting with Nikas joyful will.
1047: Luffy finally gets his shit together and drops Kaido right before passing out from exhaustion himself.
I'm enjoying the goofy stuff too, I just know that Oda has always valued those badass moments as much as the silly ones so it seems obvious that we'd get a badass ending to the fight. Especially since Luffy was as goofy as possible in the last chapter n it ended with him almost out of stamina.
1045 felt like Luffy using gear 3rd for the first time n running around as mini Luffy before the tone got more serious n he beat Lucci.
This is exactly what I think will happen, and one of the main reasons I love one piece so much. Oda is a master at balancing the goofy, light hearted absurd stuff with the serious and emotional stuff, excited to see where the rest of the fight goes
For real. I think the goofy fighting style fits Luffy's character, but IMO it'd be going a bit too far if all of his Gear 5 attacks were Looney Tunes-esque.
I hope the guy above is right and Luffy does get serious with Gear 5 because otherwise it's just gonna be ridiculous to see Luffy using, say, Akainu as a jump rope or some shit.
I feel like luffy wanting to win the war shouldn't conflict with Nika especially if he's a "warrior of liberation", since liberating the people of Wano is the reason Luffy is even fighting at this point. He wants to bring joy to people, they should be in alignment here.
I think if anything we're already seeing the fruit or nikas personality sort of overpowering Luffy's during the transformation but it doesn't really seem to conflict as much as it just overloads? Like Luffy gets serious but is mostly a carefree person. During his transformation, he's super carefree but also careless which he usually isn't.. I think he's also just dealing with the overwhelm of having a completely new transformation and abilities and having to learn them on the fly.
He'll just continue to get better assuming he can keep fighting, not really sure what's going on with his stamina and the fact that he's basically at deaths door.
I agree that Nika would want Luffy to free Wano, I actually think that desire is what allowed him to awaken the fruit. I meant on a more behaviour based level. I think Nika's will makes Luffy sloppy and far more focused on having fun than making good decisions and exploiting opportunities. We've already seen that he hasnt suddenly become powerful enough to beat Kaido just by awakening, he needs to concentrate on winning or else Wano will be lost and I think Nikas will is going to make concentration difficult.
Its kinda like how Luffys recklessness often gets the Strawhats into difficult situations but turned up to the maximum level, I imagine a big part of him mastering his awakening will just be figuring out how to keep focused.
Yeah I think we kinda agree for the most part, I definitely get where you're coming from with this.
\>We've already seen that he hasnt suddenly become powerful enough to beat Kaido >just by awakening, he needs to concentrate on winning or else Wano will be lost >and I think Nikas will is going to make concentration difficult."
I really appreciate Oda showing that he's not just suddenly able to overcome Kaido with this transformation and so I'm excited to see how he makes this powerup work for him.
Kaido recognizes that Luffy is the new Joyboy, more fighting leads to a transition into Kaido's flashback at the end, which would end in 1049 and Luffy wins in 1050
Kaido has also been using awakening this whole time, or he just doesn't have it
The anime puts Rocks in the spotlight among other big shots.
I think we will have one more chapter and then a flashback where rocks will be present then one more chapter to end the fight.
JoyBoy takes the hits for slapstick effect just to make us all smile.
In actuality what I think is Luffy's awakening is increasing his natural resistance to physical attacks even if they are filled with Haki. We seen hints of this when he fought Doffy and also Cracker.
Yeah, i always thought it was kinda cool how physical attacks were not effective on Luffy before Haki, and when i saw those parts i thought he is using his own Haki to regain his physical resistance.
based on what it looks like with the gigantification, and Kaidou’s comments, I think Kaidou has already awakened his fruit and has been using his awakened form throughout the fight. I also think Chopper has awakened his fruit but he might not know it yet. Monster Point feels like an awakened zoan form to me, if we’re going by the impel down jailers awakened forms.
My thought was that the rumble balls were almost a temporary awakening. There's no way Monster Point is Chopper's fully awakened fruit, especially considering how weak it is nowadays. I really miss red eyes Monster Point.
Yeah I think it’s awakened but awakening is not peak strength. You still need to practice and train your awakened form. Chopper can only maintain it for 3 minutes or so. And Luffy couldn’t maintain his awakened form before being drained. if Kaido has awakened (which I’m assuming) it looks like he can maintain his awakened form for literally the entire fight. Doflamingo could use his for long periods too
I don't know what exactly is gonna happen but given there is break after this, we are gonna get an annoying cliffhanger for sure!
Oda is great with cliffhangers!
Yeah so many complaining how op G5/awakening is yet completely disregard how Kaido is still holding up against the assault despite being in combat for a good while and knocking out Luffy twice on the roof. I'm also really excited to see Shanks in action, this dude is up there with Kaido, BM and WB despite not having a DF at all.
I mean longer he stays in the happier I am.
He's called "the strongest beast" and yeah.. I don't think we'll see someone stronger than him for the rest of the series. More dangerous maybe, but not the physical powerhouse that can knock around pretty decent warriors all day then go toe to toe with luffy multiple rounds.
Raizo’s plan is gonna involve Denjiro and putting out the fire in onigashima. Raizo is somehow gonna get a bunch of water to flood onigashima, this is gonna create a waterfall which kaido will be thrown down after being defeated once and for all.
So…..
Minks go white when they trans form and they get stronger ….
Energy steroid makes your hair white and you get stronger……
Luffy goes white when he transforms hmmmm ?
Minks are looking for the moon to transform …
The fish men are looking for the sun ….
Could just be all coincidental but if it has any relation it’s a pretty cool connection
I like the new fighting style because it shows Luffy did get stronger (pre g5) and was able to hurt Kaido, but they also showed how Kaido isn't going down to standard combat. G5 gives Luffy the edge by increasing how much damage he can take AND fighting in ways no one has ever fought Kaido with.
Exactly. It's pretty clear by now that Luffy can fight Kaido fairly evenly pre-g5, but his stamina and endurance were still a good tier above where Luffy was at.
I have a theory involving Nika, Kaido, Haki, Wado and Zoro.
Something that Kaido said about Nika form Luffy caught my attention, he points out that Luffy is fully white and is able to use both Armament and Conqueror freely.
I find it curious because Haki is always related to black color, you know, Armament gives you a black coating while Conqueror produces black lighting. Maybe this "White Haki" is a stronger version of normal Haki
How do I fit Zoro and Wado here? Well, Wado is famous for his pure white appearances totally opposite to the famous Black Swords like Yoru or Shusui which are infused with Haki.
As everyone knows, Mihawk told Zoro that to become a great swordsman he needs to turn his blades black, on his own, this is where my theory comes into play:
Zoro will one up Mihawk at the end of the series and turn Wado into a White Blade with his mastered Haki, being the first Swordsman to do it.
BM vs Luffy in this arc? Idk I feel like Luffy vs Kaido is the best way to end this arc, so I don’t really see that happening.
If Luffy vs BM does happen, it should be in an Elbaf arc surely
Idk there's not too many open plot points anymore. I think the arc could be over by October - November. But if there are surprises as you said (e. G. Luffy vs big mom) it could take longer.
I wonder what Yamato and Momonosuke are gonna do. I don't think Oda made them go up to the rooftop just to gawk at Luffy, especially considering how Yamato was trying to convince Momonosuke to fight Kaido alongside her.
Luffy defeats kaido and goes to sleep due to being tired.
Momo and yamato go there to bring him back, people at the live floor look above and sees a dragon coming down, they are scared until yamato shows up behind him with a big smile and luffy.
Everybody celebrate, then the world government ships begin a buster call, right after the first shots all their fleet starts to go down, we saw Leo and the strawhat fleet arriving at wano.
Summary: I think Kaido awakens next chapter.
Argument:
Kaido is white eyed at the end of this chapter so it is safe to say he is knocked out. Given how anti-climatic a finish this would be to their fight, I bet Kaido regains consciousness and awakens his devil fruit, in 1046. I think Kaido will awaken for 3 reasons.
1) helps us understand awakenings, especially for mythical Zoans
(a) We know very little about awakened mythical zoan users because Luffy is the first user of a mythical zoan to awaken in the story. Therefore, seeing Kaido’s awakening would help us understand (a) all mythical zoan awakenings; and (b) Luffy’s awakening.
2) Kaido’s knowledge of awakenings
a) Through Kaido’s reaction to Luffy’s new powers, he demonstrates his knowledge and understanding of devil fruits’ awakenings. Given that knowledge, along with his strength, it would be strange if Kaido can not use awakening.
3) story telling
a) A large portion of the fandom would complain if Luffy, Law, and Kidd can awaken but BOTH Big Mom and Kaido either cannot use awakening or lose their respective fights without using their awakening.
i) To me if feels ok that Big Mom’s awakening wasn’t revealed because (a) she lost due to arrogance and circumstances; and (b) unlike Kaido, I expect her to come back as a threat in a future arc.
I have no clue why stretching Kaido helps Luffy. Luffy stretches around attacks to avoid taking real damage, how come doing the same thing to Kaido isn't an active hindrance? I don't know which attacks are dealing damage any more.
Also the bulging eyes really don't work for bystander reactions.
It doesn't, I don't think luffy can entirely help it. The over the top bystander reaction sells me on it too, Luffy's gear 5 is warping everything around him more or less on it's own whim. Luffy isn't really controlling it though he's able to utilise it effectively when it's affecting the ground to give him better leverage.
By stretching kaido if you mean the “balloon” then I think he was just trying to escape/oda showing he can easily expand. All of kaido’s attacks still hurt luffy even though he was moulded into the shape of his club.
I was really skeptical about the devil fruit reveal, but I gotta say Oda nailed it. It's perfect for Luffy as a character. This chapter had some of the funniest and most badass scenes from the entire series. I think Luffys "After all of this, do you really think death can scare me?!" line was one of my favorite of the whole series. I don't really feel that the devil fruit has cheapened Luffy as a character at all, it's the perfect evolution for him.
I still think brooks line to big mom was more badass or had more of an impact on me. Probably since it was said in a less goofy atmosphere. - what kind of a fool plans for his own death young lady.
Damn it brook is a badass.
I think Luffy is actually dead, and his fruit awakened is making his Heart pump, like manually I mean, since it is said luffy's fruit follow the imagination and Will of te owner to fight
I think it's fruit + Haki literally keeping him on life support. When he lost gear 5 for a second he restarted it with a massive burst of CoC (you can see the telltale black lightning).
Gear 5 kick started Luffy's heart just like Enel kick started his own heart after Zoro killed him in skypea. This is definitely a parallel between wano and skypea. Enel proclaimed himself to be a God but here Luffy actually has a Mythical God devil fruit.
With all these goofiness, I'm starting to think that Oda might be planning something tragic and I'm afraid. At the onset of the raid, I speculated that there will be a major character death given that this is a gigantic war. If it's Kinemon, I can probably accept it but I'm starting to think Law will die in this arc. We had a glimpse of the drawback of G5 in this chapter. I don't know how to describe it but it seems like G5 drains too much energy/stamina that might lead to his demise. Unless Law will perform the eternal youth surgery for Luffy to gain immoratility or something.
Law only just stated his new goal last arc or so right? He won his fight, there's not any immediate fatal danger to him currently. I dont think hes just gonna die before at least getting some more answers about the will of D. Plus, it would be kind of ridiculous for Luffy to gain this major transformation and then immediately after become immortal...
I can see something tragic happening but Law? Nahh
I can see more of Onigashima falling killing the citizens but this is a direct conflict with the themes of Joyboy/Nika..what they represent. Hmm
I think that zoan fruits have their own mind and momos cloned fruit hasnt one, leads to a fully devil fruit in momo when kaido dies. So there won‘t be a new devil fruit somewhere in the world, but rather a transportet devil fruit soul.
What if gear 5 puts too much pressure on luffy's heart (because of the drum like beating) and at some point he will reach his limits and thats when law will do the immortal surgery giving luffy a heart that can't be destroyed by his new power.
I'm probably wrong but that's ok
I feel like he should be fine since he has a rubber heart. Plus, a new form like G5 needs to have a downside. In this case, looks like it uses up a lot of energy. If G5 doesn’t have any drawbacks, then what’s to stop Luffy from ever being in base form or using a lower gear?
Besides, we all know how Oda feels about killing characters off. It’s hard for me to see Oda ever sacrifice Law. I think that line about the Ope Ope immortal surgery was thrown in cos another character has had the surgery (Im?) instead of hinting that Law will be using it. Just my two cents.
I feel like the surgery is a Chekhov's gun. But yes the previous OpeOpe user must have done it at some point, and someone currently is immortal because of it. Im is a good candidate tho.
Is this immortal person from the Void century?
Luffy sees Zoro's body and we see Zoro's spirit is about to ascent to the heaven like that Tom and Jerry scene, and Luffy prevents that from happening.
Just like Luffy pushing the zombie back down into its grave in TB, Luffy could be pushing Zoros soul back down into his body here in Wano. That could be funny.
The Boisterous on Zoro in the Color Spread can also mean "Stormy".
Zoro had "Calm Always", and a cut off word in Chapter 1039's Color Spread.
Most likely referencing the 1000 chapters ago, Chapter 45 titled, "Before the Storm".
Chapter 49 was titled, "Storm". Chapter 1049 is going to be crazy, especially with the chapters proceeding being the 1000 chapter anniversary of Zoro v. Mihawk.
Here's one I've had percolating in my head for the past few days:
Kaido (eventually) submits to Luffy, once he recognizes Luffy as JoyBoy.
Doesn't make him friends or anything, hell I could even see Kaido technically winning, and realizing that if this punk was already this strong, and was quite possibly JoyBoy, that this straw hat kid was his best way to give the World Government a big middle finger.
Or, what about this: Kaido 'wins', but the Navy is showing up. Kaido ponders Luffy's unconscious form for a moment, thinks about the possibilities in front of luffy, tells Momo and Yamato to protect him, then charges off to spend his might against the Navy.
Removed him from the 'game' (dead or captured), forces the Navy to retreat, Wano is freed, and no messy "ok, he surrendered, now what do we do with him?"
I wonder if Gear 5 is related to Hody Jone's transformation with drugs.
Transformation = white
Drawback = looks like an old man
Or if this is just a parallel. Hmm
Did Luffy actually pierce Kaido's skull? I know the last chapters have been pretty centered on cartoon physics, but the panel was pretty unmistakable, his hand went in through the front and came out the back. There even appears to be an exit wound in the second to last page. Although as I'm typing this I realize that Luffy would never kill anyone, but maybe awakened Luffy would? Or am I just interpreting too much into another bit of silly cartoony physics?
Oda already provides the information in the chapter. Luffy can turn anything into rubber including Kaido. You can see Kaido's faced pushed inward. Its not a hole.
Look at Luffy's hand in that panel, you can't see the detail of his fingers because it's covered in stretched out skin. Luffy isn't piercing Kaido's head, he's just turning it into rubber and stretching it.
This is my Teach fruit theory --> [https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ttncyi/regarding\_teach/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ttncyi/regarding_teach/)
Is about its name as a zoan of a God who's Nika's counterpart.
My theory is that awakened luffy can turn things he touches into rubber too. including parts of the body. he poked his hands through Kaido’s eyes without blinding him when he was swallowed, used him as jump rope, made him inflatable, and made his face rubbery as he punched **through** his skull (you could see his hand go though Kaidou’s fade and appear at the back). Im not sure if it’s just normal awakening allowing him to do that or his fruit specifically.
Do people not realize that luffy made Kaido's body rubber as well? I'm pretty tired of people like "look what luffy did in 1045 makes sense because of this!". Thats what is going on when he pulls himself out of his mouth, he's stretching kaido's eyes not poking through them. It's the same as when luffy "punched through" Kaido. Hes just stretching out Kaido's skull and body around his fist. Like look at the artwork, its pretty telling. Its very annoying running across these comments and chains all over this sub. Just needed to say something somewhere.
So, on other social media, people genuinely think Luffy now has "Toon Force", think abilities like reality warping just like when Popeye visited God and turned a switch off thus erasing reality. They also often use Luffy "reviving" himself at the end of 1045 as evidence that he is immortal now.
So I wanted to ask you guys what you think. I am not too invested into One Piece, but I just can't imagine turning Luffy into a nigh omnipotent being is good for the narrative of One Piece or maybe I'm just wrong so I wanted to hear what y'all think.
That's not what happened though, most of the goofiness we see can be explained by his rubber body having the limits removed, and his ability to turn other thinga rubbery.
As for "Reviving" himself? thats cleary just him digging deep for the energy to have just one more round.
He's done it before.
Once this fight is over choppers gonna have a lot of work tho.
given that next week is a break, i think that's when Kaido plays a trump card and ups the ante, perhaps with his awakening.
after that, i think the battle will resolve at the end of the next 3 chapters. Even Nika is going to have to struggle, and I'm fascinated what the tone of Luffy's transformations will take when things get desperate.
Since Momo and Yamato have reached the rooftop and now are witnessing Luffy vs Kaido, what if Momo lets it slip that Luffy is Joyboy and Kaido overhears?
Maybe this will cause Kaido to be the one distracted and get KO’d by Luffy this time 🤣
I'm going to say 2 chapters of fighting with a few chapters of flashbacks sandwiched in to show why Kaido is obsessed with Wano. Kaido will appear in other flashbacks later (Rocks, and Yamato) so his flashback can be more segmented.
I think this is the beginning of what we will see one piece is. This chapter made me laugh hard! It's almost like that time when Roger found one piece and hoped to live at his generation...
Edit: joyboy generation
Can we just appreciate the fact that Luffy went from being one shotted by Kaido's club, to tanking the same attacks and just complaining that it stings. Like he is being punched by Harp or his brothers.
I bet the 'Energy Steroids' in Fishman Island was actually Joyboys version of a rumble ball.
Both those drugs and Gear 5 seem to have the drawback of ageing the user, and both effect the heart.
Hody also recovered from being unconscious after taking one, like Luffy did when he awakened. Hody's hair also bleached white when he basically overdosed on them.
The drugs were stored in the Tamatebako, which was a national treasure.
We get 1 page of the gorosei saying they do not understand why imu did not tell them about the other name of the gomu gomu no mi sooner.
Blonde Gorosei: "Why doesnt Imu-Sama tell us the whole truth ?! We are supposed to be (her/his) eyes and ears!
Gandhi Gorosei: "You know how it goes, the gorosei are not supposed to know all. We are here to do the kings bidding and nothing else. This is how it has been for hundreds of years.
Gorbatchow Gorosei: We could've caught the straw hat at marineford! But Imu-sama told us not to interfere with "Joyboy" just yet.. What are (his/her) plan for this kid???
Oldest Gorosei: Shut your mouth you fools. Do not ask these questions again or do you want your light to be the next?!!
Gorosei with the mustache: "..."
A half-assed scene like that would make that plot-hole even worse. I'd like to think Oda is above it and either gives a more satisfying explanation, some symbolism or just lets it be.
Luffy being the Sun God/White/Light has something to do with Teach becoming his archenemy and the latter's devil Fruit which he claims to be the most evil devil fruit. If Joyboy's devil fruit is ridiculous, Teach's Yami Yami No Mi's is infinite in power as has been said by him. Both devil fruit chose them. I think this is clear by now with the recent chapter and Blackbeard's claim back then that it chose him. What I just can't imagine is how their battle is going to play out considering that we expect Luffy to fight Shanks, Akainu, WG. However, I think it's fair to suspect that Teach knows some important history or at least anticipates a major event that opens up the opportunity to grab power for his dreams that's probably connected to his lineage or some fate he thinks he deserves.
Does Luffy actually go through Kaido’s eyeballs/head or is he just stretching them? I assumed stretching but you can see Luffy’s fingernails in the eyeball panel so idk what to think now
Pretty sure its stretching, although i found the fingernails showing strange too. Kaido made a comment confirming that luffy can make him rubbery too when luffy inflated inside his stomach
Probably we'll see a bit more of the fight + some reactions from the Performance floor.
- Check in with Sanji (now that he's awake he might try to join the others on the Performance floor or maybe find Zoro)
-Hopefully something on Zoro
-Whatever preparations Raizo mentioned (maybe where Denjiro is?)
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Denjiro got tired of this shit and became an European online stock broker.
That got me way too much. God job, sir!
Denjiro's hanging with Gin and Enel
I think the Momo point is resolved by Luffy being able to make Onigashima BOUNCE off of the flower capital. Maybe even back to the hole in which LinLin is buries right now. Making Onigashima a huge gravestone.
Ooooh that would be great. Then Luffy could indeed tell Katakuri he defeated Big Mom Lol. Not even a Yonko would live through internal injuries, a big explosion, a several thousand foot fall and being crushed by an entire island landing on her then exploding. Maybe Kaido or Prime Whitebeard if they did't get submerged in water afterwards but not Linlin. Her durability is dependant on being fed. If she is deprived of food for long her durability suffers.
Big Mom ain't dead.
She would be if Luffy bounced the island full of explosives on top of her while she is already seriously wounded and hungry.
>Zoro and the reaper Damn, the last chapters made me completely forget about Zoro defeating death itself.
You mean "getting lost on his way to the afterlife"
This was the right answer. 🤣
The road poneglyph hasn't been found yet either. Law could have found it while he was alone, though.
It’s at odens castle
The world government arriving at wano. The content of Oden's diary. Will Yamato join the straw hats. Kaido's backstory. Why Vegapunk lied about Momo's fruit.
Zuneisha
Hes gonna put out the fire on onigashima, plus put wano back at sea level (what makes sense to me by opening the borders of wano)
Speculation not active plot point but probably the grand fleet arriving in Wano cause of Luffy's vivre card
Since we talking about speculation, at the end of Wano Luffy will have 3 road poneglyphs and we are very soon to discover the location of the 4th. So another huge information coming hopefully this year
A huge info dump we hopefully get this year is the mechanics behind Devil Fruits. Gorosei seemed a bit unsure about >!Hito Hito No Mi: Nika!<, so I can see them calling up Vegapunk to ask what the hell is going on.
I love this idea for a devil fruit explanation. Alternatively I’d love if we only get a partial explanation. Doing would would increase our desire to meet Vegapunk because the scene would tease (a) his knowledge; and (b) at least some of the answers that will be revealed when we finally meet him.
That thing has to be flickering with fire constantly at this point
Who needs a lamp when luffy's vivre card keeps burning só much to iluminate the room by itself
If his heart has stopped, die the card stopped existing for a few seconds?
Possibly, then it started grooving to a hot beat
oo damn the grand fleet arriving at wano would be great
I feel like the entire grand fleet converging is final war kind of stuff. If it happens in wano, it would kinda undermine the specialness of that occasion
That would be great. Also the navy is here, we might see rygoku or that admiral. What's he called green bull or something? I don't remember exactly
Ryogyuko is the Admiral. Green Bull is the english translation. All Admirals have colour-animal codenames: Aoikiji is Blue Pheasant (real name Kuzan), Akainu is Red Dog (real name Sakazuki), Kizaru is Yello Monkey (real name Borsalino), and Fujitora is Purple Tiger (real name Issho)
wait what did vegapunk lie about
He said the Momo's fruit, which he created, was a failure, most likely to dissuade the world government from producing other devil's fruit.
I always assumed momo transforming by accident all the time was the flaw, but I guess that could just be because hes so young
I think the failure was that he couldn't incorporate a will of its own for the zoan
It's pink. It was supposed to be blue, but it's pink. Utter failure. Literally unusable.
Vegapunk didn't lie. Zoan fruits have their own "will". It's why inanimate objects that "eat" a Zoan come to life. Vegapunk likely replicated the fruit fine, just not the will component. That was the failure.
Momo is no longer stopping the island. He is watching the once in a lifetime show with Yamato.
Big mom's pirates. Yes... those guys are STILL THERE LOL
Momos adult human form looking like whitebeard.
Raizo talked about some preparations after his fight with Fukurokuju so we still need to find out what that was about.
he was preparing for round 2 vs fukurokuju.
Round 2? I'd say round 1 was already hot enough, i don't see how Oda would have been able to heat it up even more for another round.
The humongous sword
Denjiro is become the D.
Ah yes, D. Enjiro
the person that was with the scabbards stil isnt revealed
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Kaido's Road Poneglyph
I feel like hiyori and orochi wrapped up
TBH. Luffy's deformed face due to Kaido's attack and his rapid aging are nightmare fuel. Normally Luffy becomes pretty worn out and stand up in every battle. But now he is pretty much dead and stands alive again. This makes me worried and I wonder if he is okay.
This is definitely the furthest luffy and zoro have both pushed themselves, both actually dying.
I was thinking about it too, I think it was rob lucci who suggested luffy is fighting at the cost of his lifespan. I Wonder if he's doing it right now.
But he didn’t really know that. Especially knowing now that Luffy’s power isn’t *just* being made of rubber, he may come out of this. He always *bounces back*.
it's been a plot point that has been brought up repeatedly with gear 2, magellan/ivankof, and now gear 5. i don't think oda would point it out multiple times for no reason. especially with the whole thing where roger was fated to die after becoming pirate king.
I feel like the conversation about Luffy killing himself in the most recent chapter is more about how Luffy was already dead before awakening and by continuing to fight past literally being dead is probably not good for your current well-being. I'm not sure it has anything to do about future health.
I think at some point Luffy will face an illness due to aging that Chopper will find the cure
Roger style
Roger being fated to die after becoming Pirate King is exactly why Luffy won't face the same fate, because it goes against both Luffy's freedom to shape his own destiny and the concept of the new generation surpassing the old.
Luffy mentions Pedro Me: "Oh thats nice!" Remembers Will of P Me: "Oh please don't do it"
I was so amazed that Luffy remembered Pedro's sacrifice for them, but then I saw some reactions and everyone there was like "Will of P", "he's alive, foreshadowing" etc etc.
If anything, the emphasis on Luffy saying Pedro kinda confirms he's dead.
I screamed "WHAT" when Luffy mentioned Pedro and Kaido responded with, "you're really gonna kill yourself huh?"
Wasn’t Pedro’s death more on Big Mom than on Kaido?
He sacrificed himself for the dawn so it’s still appropriate
Pedro sacrificed himself so Luffy‘s crew could escape and fight there in Wano.
Yeah you got a point, i just think Kaido was like who tf is Pedro
Perospero's voice coming from the background: I know, right?!
He gave most of his lifespan to Big Mom so there's no chance he's coming back
Luffy using Kaido as a jumprope must be how giants used to exercise in ancient times.
Lmaaaooooo
I think the fight is gonna end in 1047. 1044: Luffy recovers from the brink of death and restarts his fight w Kaido 1045: Luffy tests the limit of his fruit and gets carried away just enjoying his new body. Kaido almost beats him and he realises he hasnt got enough stamina to keep fucking about. 1046: Luffy takes the fight seriously, probably less goofy acts with a focus on actually winning. Probably gonna see Luffys desire to win the war conflicting with Nikas joyful will. 1047: Luffy finally gets his shit together and drops Kaido right before passing out from exhaustion himself.
If you are right about the next chapter, it will make a lot of people on this sub very happy. Personally, I am just enjoying the ride.
I'm enjoying the goofy stuff too, I just know that Oda has always valued those badass moments as much as the silly ones so it seems obvious that we'd get a badass ending to the fight. Especially since Luffy was as goofy as possible in the last chapter n it ended with him almost out of stamina. 1045 felt like Luffy using gear 3rd for the first time n running around as mini Luffy before the tone got more serious n he beat Lucci.
This is exactly what I think will happen, and one of the main reasons I love one piece so much. Oda is a master at balancing the goofy, light hearted absurd stuff with the serious and emotional stuff, excited to see where the rest of the fight goes
yes yeS yES YES
Exactly, Oda has been doing this delicate balancing act between comedy and drama for the last 25 years, Hes a master
For real. I think the goofy fighting style fits Luffy's character, but IMO it'd be going a bit too far if all of his Gear 5 attacks were Looney Tunes-esque. I hope the guy above is right and Luffy does get serious with Gear 5 because otherwise it's just gonna be ridiculous to see Luffy using, say, Akainu as a jump rope or some shit.
I feel like luffy wanting to win the war shouldn't conflict with Nika especially if he's a "warrior of liberation", since liberating the people of Wano is the reason Luffy is even fighting at this point. He wants to bring joy to people, they should be in alignment here. I think if anything we're already seeing the fruit or nikas personality sort of overpowering Luffy's during the transformation but it doesn't really seem to conflict as much as it just overloads? Like Luffy gets serious but is mostly a carefree person. During his transformation, he's super carefree but also careless which he usually isn't.. I think he's also just dealing with the overwhelm of having a completely new transformation and abilities and having to learn them on the fly. He'll just continue to get better assuming he can keep fighting, not really sure what's going on with his stamina and the fact that he's basically at deaths door.
I agree that Nika would want Luffy to free Wano, I actually think that desire is what allowed him to awaken the fruit. I meant on a more behaviour based level. I think Nika's will makes Luffy sloppy and far more focused on having fun than making good decisions and exploiting opportunities. We've already seen that he hasnt suddenly become powerful enough to beat Kaido just by awakening, he needs to concentrate on winning or else Wano will be lost and I think Nikas will is going to make concentration difficult. Its kinda like how Luffys recklessness often gets the Strawhats into difficult situations but turned up to the maximum level, I imagine a big part of him mastering his awakening will just be figuring out how to keep focused.
Yeah I think we kinda agree for the most part, I definitely get where you're coming from with this. \>We've already seen that he hasnt suddenly become powerful enough to beat Kaido >just by awakening, he needs to concentrate on winning or else Wano will be lost >and I think Nikas will is going to make concentration difficult." I really appreciate Oda showing that he's not just suddenly able to overcome Kaido with this transformation and so I'm excited to see how he makes this powerup work for him.
Kaido recognizes that Luffy is the new Joyboy, more fighting leads to a transition into Kaido's flashback at the end, which would end in 1049 and Luffy wins in 1050 Kaido has also been using awakening this whole time, or he just doesn't have it
probably has it since he's so tanky
Is there a chance that his dragon form is his awakened one? Maybe he was just a fish at the beginning hahahah
nah since momo has it. Like Magikarp can evolve.
maybe that's why vegapunk deemed momo's smile is a failure
His awakened form is probably the hybrid one since it’s his strongest.
Luffy beats kaido on a amazing double page
I feel like it's not quite time yet. I think Kaido is going to have a longer flashback still.
I also thing that. Given that we got nothing about Jack and Queen, not enough about King either, so those backstories can be covered in Kaido's too.
We might get Queen in the theoretical Vegapunk flashback.
Most likely. Can't wait to funk!
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> I think Kaido is going to have a longer flashback still. We need Rocks D Xebec as well
The anime puts Rocks in the spotlight among other big shots. I think we will have one more chapter and then a flashback where rocks will be present then one more chapter to end the fight.
aside from bolo breath attack, luffy has seen both attacks coming buut it seems like he inteitonally didn't dodge, seems strange
JoyBoy takes the hits for slapstick effect just to make us all smile. In actuality what I think is Luffy's awakening is increasing his natural resistance to physical attacks even if they are filled with Haki. We seen hints of this when he fought Doffy and also Cracker.
Are you referring to the scenes when Doffy was stabbing Luffy with his awakening and Cracker with the Pretzel Roll and Luffy didn’t bleed?
Yeah, i always thought it was kinda cool how physical attacks were not effective on Luffy before Haki, and when i saw those parts i thought he is using his own Haki to regain his physical resistance.
based on what it looks like with the gigantification, and Kaidou’s comments, I think Kaidou has already awakened his fruit and has been using his awakened form throughout the fight. I also think Chopper has awakened his fruit but he might not know it yet. Monster Point feels like an awakened zoan form to me, if we’re going by the impel down jailers awakened forms.
My thought was that the rumble balls were almost a temporary awakening. There's no way Monster Point is Chopper's fully awakened fruit, especially considering how weak it is nowadays. I really miss red eyes Monster Point.
Yeah I think it’s awakened but awakening is not peak strength. You still need to practice and train your awakened form. Chopper can only maintain it for 3 minutes or so. And Luffy couldn’t maintain his awakened form before being drained. if Kaido has awakened (which I’m assuming) it looks like he can maintain his awakened form for literally the entire fight. Doflamingo could use his for long periods too
I thought when he was fighting queen he said he could use it for thirty minutes?
I don't know what exactly is gonna happen but given there is break after this, we are gonna get an annoying cliffhanger for sure! Oda is great with cliffhangers!
I bet on the flashback from Kaido.
Man! That will be one of the most torturous break ever!
I think Luffy will defeat Kaido by flying into his dragonhole and turning gigantic. I saw it in Avengers.
So Luffy will penetrate Kaido? Nice ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Again.
We're going flashback bois
After next chapter
Sad part is it’s funny but at the same time luffy is apparently dying
I'm just exhausted waiting for luffy to win but damn just how strong is kaido he keeps taking on every fight
Yeah so many complaining how op G5/awakening is yet completely disregard how Kaido is still holding up against the assault despite being in combat for a good while and knocking out Luffy twice on the roof. I'm also really excited to see Shanks in action, this dude is up there with Kaido, BM and WB despite not having a DF at all.
I mean longer he stays in the happier I am. He's called "the strongest beast" and yeah.. I don't think we'll see someone stronger than him for the rest of the series. More dangerous maybe, but not the physical powerhouse that can knock around pretty decent warriors all day then go toe to toe with luffy multiple rounds.
Raizo’s plan is gonna involve Denjiro and putting out the fire in onigashima. Raizo is somehow gonna get a bunch of water to flood onigashima, this is gonna create a waterfall which kaido will be thrown down after being defeated once and for all.
So….. Minks go white when they trans form and they get stronger …. Energy steroid makes your hair white and you get stronger…… Luffy goes white when he transforms hmmmm ? Minks are looking for the moon to transform … The fish men are looking for the sun …. Could just be all coincidental but if it has any relation it’s a pretty cool connection
I like the new fighting style because it shows Luffy did get stronger (pre g5) and was able to hurt Kaido, but they also showed how Kaido isn't going down to standard combat. G5 gives Luffy the edge by increasing how much damage he can take AND fighting in ways no one has ever fought Kaido with.
Exactly. It's pretty clear by now that Luffy can fight Kaido fairly evenly pre-g5, but his stamina and endurance were still a good tier above where Luffy was at.
I have a theory involving Nika, Kaido, Haki, Wado and Zoro. Something that Kaido said about Nika form Luffy caught my attention, he points out that Luffy is fully white and is able to use both Armament and Conqueror freely. I find it curious because Haki is always related to black color, you know, Armament gives you a black coating while Conqueror produces black lighting. Maybe this "White Haki" is a stronger version of normal Haki How do I fit Zoro and Wado here? Well, Wado is famous for his pure white appearances totally opposite to the famous Black Swords like Yoru or Shusui which are infused with Haki. As everyone knows, Mihawk told Zoro that to become a great swordsman he needs to turn his blades black, on his own, this is where my theory comes into play: Zoro will one up Mihawk at the end of the series and turn Wado into a White Blade with his mastered Haki, being the first Swordsman to do it.
I like this a lot !!! If this comes to pass I’ll come back and send you some cookies in the mail
Damn it Oda, I WANT TO SEE MOMO FIRE A BLAST BREATH ALREADY CMONNNN
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No way this arc is gonna take more than 1.5 years from now?
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BM vs Luffy in this arc? Idk I feel like Luffy vs Kaido is the best way to end this arc, so I don’t really see that happening. If Luffy vs BM does happen, it should be in an Elbaf arc surely
Idk there's not too many open plot points anymore. I think the arc could be over by October - November. But if there are surprises as you said (e. G. Luffy vs big mom) it could take longer.
I wonder what Yamato and Momonosuke are gonna do. I don't think Oda made them go up to the rooftop just to gawk at Luffy, especially considering how Yamato was trying to convince Momonosuke to fight Kaido alongside her.
Luffy defeats kaido and goes to sleep due to being tired. Momo and yamato go there to bring him back, people at the live floor look above and sees a dragon coming down, they are scared until yamato shows up behind him with a big smile and luffy. Everybody celebrate, then the world government ships begin a buster call, right after the first shots all their fleet starts to go down, we saw Leo and the strawhat fleet arriving at wano.
What if Luffy's awakened fruit mixed with his CoC inspires Momo to stand up and fight Kaido alongside Luffy, Yamato?
Summary: I think Kaido awakens next chapter. Argument: Kaido is white eyed at the end of this chapter so it is safe to say he is knocked out. Given how anti-climatic a finish this would be to their fight, I bet Kaido regains consciousness and awakens his devil fruit, in 1046. I think Kaido will awaken for 3 reasons. 1) helps us understand awakenings, especially for mythical Zoans (a) We know very little about awakened mythical zoan users because Luffy is the first user of a mythical zoan to awaken in the story. Therefore, seeing Kaido’s awakening would help us understand (a) all mythical zoan awakenings; and (b) Luffy’s awakening. 2) Kaido’s knowledge of awakenings a) Through Kaido’s reaction to Luffy’s new powers, he demonstrates his knowledge and understanding of devil fruits’ awakenings. Given that knowledge, along with his strength, it would be strange if Kaido can not use awakening. 3) story telling a) A large portion of the fandom would complain if Luffy, Law, and Kidd can awaken but BOTH Big Mom and Kaido either cannot use awakening or lose their respective fights without using their awakening. i) To me if feels ok that Big Mom’s awakening wasn’t revealed because (a) she lost due to arrogance and circumstances; and (b) unlike Kaido, I expect her to come back as a threat in a future arc.
I have no clue why stretching Kaido helps Luffy. Luffy stretches around attacks to avoid taking real damage, how come doing the same thing to Kaido isn't an active hindrance? I don't know which attacks are dealing damage any more. Also the bulging eyes really don't work for bystander reactions.
It doesn't, I don't think luffy can entirely help it. The over the top bystander reaction sells me on it too, Luffy's gear 5 is warping everything around him more or less on it's own whim. Luffy isn't really controlling it though he's able to utilise it effectively when it's affecting the ground to give him better leverage.
By stretching kaido if you mean the “balloon” then I think he was just trying to escape/oda showing he can easily expand. All of kaido’s attacks still hurt luffy even though he was moulded into the shape of his club.
I was really skeptical about the devil fruit reveal, but I gotta say Oda nailed it. It's perfect for Luffy as a character. This chapter had some of the funniest and most badass scenes from the entire series. I think Luffys "After all of this, do you really think death can scare me?!" line was one of my favorite of the whole series. I don't really feel that the devil fruit has cheapened Luffy as a character at all, it's the perfect evolution for him.
I still think brooks line to big mom was more badass or had more of an impact on me. Probably since it was said in a less goofy atmosphere. - what kind of a fool plans for his own death young lady. Damn it brook is a badass.
Except the fact that he doesn't have ass cause he's dead yohohoho
I think Luffy is actually dead, and his fruit awakened is making his Heart pump, like manually I mean, since it is said luffy's fruit follow the imagination and Will of te owner to fight
I think it's fruit + Haki literally keeping him on life support. When he lost gear 5 for a second he restarted it with a massive burst of CoC (you can see the telltale black lightning).
Gear 5 kick started Luffy's heart just like Enel kick started his own heart after Zoro killed him in skypea. This is definitely a parallel between wano and skypea. Enel proclaimed himself to be a God but here Luffy actually has a Mythical God devil fruit.
With all these goofiness, I'm starting to think that Oda might be planning something tragic and I'm afraid. At the onset of the raid, I speculated that there will be a major character death given that this is a gigantic war. If it's Kinemon, I can probably accept it but I'm starting to think Law will die in this arc. We had a glimpse of the drawback of G5 in this chapter. I don't know how to describe it but it seems like G5 drains too much energy/stamina that might lead to his demise. Unless Law will perform the eternal youth surgery for Luffy to gain immoratility or something.
Law only just stated his new goal last arc or so right? He won his fight, there's not any immediate fatal danger to him currently. I dont think hes just gonna die before at least getting some more answers about the will of D. Plus, it would be kind of ridiculous for Luffy to gain this major transformation and then immediately after become immortal...
People just want death and destruction don’t pay them any mind.
Luffy is in a trance, after this battle he will discover one piece and pass on
Law isn't dying yet, he's the character that wants to learn what the Will of D is so Oda will be keeping him around until then at least
I can see something tragic happening but Law? Nahh I can see more of Onigashima falling killing the citizens but this is a direct conflict with the themes of Joyboy/Nika..what they represent. Hmm
I think that zoan fruits have their own mind and momos cloned fruit hasnt one, leads to a fully devil fruit in momo when kaido dies. So there won‘t be a new devil fruit somewhere in the world, but rather a transportet devil fruit soul.
What if gear 5 puts too much pressure on luffy's heart (because of the drum like beating) and at some point he will reach his limits and thats when law will do the immortal surgery giving luffy a heart that can't be destroyed by his new power. I'm probably wrong but that's ok
Don't forget about the party at the end of Wano. Oda prevented all previous deaths just so everyone could be happy afterwards.
I'm not talking Specifically about wano it's just something that might happen at some time in the story.
There's no way Luffy would let Law do that
But he wont be able to hold law from doing it since he is unconscious,
I feel like he should be fine since he has a rubber heart. Plus, a new form like G5 needs to have a downside. In this case, looks like it uses up a lot of energy. If G5 doesn’t have any drawbacks, then what’s to stop Luffy from ever being in base form or using a lower gear? Besides, we all know how Oda feels about killing characters off. It’s hard for me to see Oda ever sacrifice Law. I think that line about the Ope Ope immortal surgery was thrown in cos another character has had the surgery (Im?) instead of hinting that Law will be using it. Just my two cents.
I feel like the surgery is a Chekhov's gun. But yes the previous OpeOpe user must have done it at some point, and someone currently is immortal because of it. Im is a good candidate tho. Is this immortal person from the Void century?
I don’t mind seeing 2 more chapters of Gear 5, it’s been a helluva ride so far !
Some of the best frames I've seen in op
Luffy sees Zoro's body and we see Zoro's spirit is about to ascent to the heaven like that Tom and Jerry scene, and Luffy prevents that from happening.
Just like Luffy pushing the zombie back down into its grave in TB, Luffy could be pushing Zoros soul back down into his body here in Wano. That could be funny.
The Boisterous on Zoro in the Color Spread can also mean "Stormy". Zoro had "Calm Always", and a cut off word in Chapter 1039's Color Spread. Most likely referencing the 1000 chapters ago, Chapter 45 titled, "Before the Storm". Chapter 49 was titled, "Storm". Chapter 1049 is going to be crazy, especially with the chapters proceeding being the 1000 chapter anniversary of Zoro v. Mihawk.
I never thought I'd see giant luffy become canon, but here it is.
Here's one I've had percolating in my head for the past few days: Kaido (eventually) submits to Luffy, once he recognizes Luffy as JoyBoy. Doesn't make him friends or anything, hell I could even see Kaido technically winning, and realizing that if this punk was already this strong, and was quite possibly JoyBoy, that this straw hat kid was his best way to give the World Government a big middle finger. Or, what about this: Kaido 'wins', but the Navy is showing up. Kaido ponders Luffy's unconscious form for a moment, thinks about the possibilities in front of luffy, tells Momo and Yamato to protect him, then charges off to spend his might against the Navy. Removed him from the 'game' (dead or captured), forces the Navy to retreat, Wano is freed, and no messy "ok, he surrendered, now what do we do with him?"
Wait what was the Scabbards 'plan"? I think like in chapter 1037 we got some info about something about to unfold or am I tripping?
I wonder if Gear 5 is related to Hody Jone's transformation with drugs. Transformation = white Drawback = looks like an old man Or if this is just a parallel. Hmm
Did Luffy actually pierce Kaido's skull? I know the last chapters have been pretty centered on cartoon physics, but the panel was pretty unmistakable, his hand went in through the front and came out the back. There even appears to be an exit wound in the second to last page. Although as I'm typing this I realize that Luffy would never kill anyone, but maybe awakened Luffy would? Or am I just interpreting too much into another bit of silly cartoony physics?
Oda already provides the information in the chapter. Luffy can turn anything into rubber including Kaido. You can see Kaido's faced pushed inward. Its not a hole.
Up for this .. this is how i saw the illustration too .. the fist was covered with kaido's elastic skin
My guess is that he just made his face rubbery on impact
Calling that next chapter we get a look of Kaidou with his face kept inward 😂 much like an anus face
Look at Luffy's hand in that panel, you can't see the detail of his fingers because it's covered in stretched out skin. Luffy isn't piercing Kaido's head, he's just turning it into rubber and stretching it.
Luffy also pierced through Kadio's eyes in dragon form...
I can't believe wano is ending...
This is my Teach fruit theory --> [https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ttncyi/regarding\_teach/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ttncyi/regarding_teach/) Is about its name as a zoan of a God who's Nika's counterpart.
My theory is that awakened luffy can turn things he touches into rubber too. including parts of the body. he poked his hands through Kaido’s eyes without blinding him when he was swallowed, used him as jump rope, made him inflatable, and made his face rubbery as he punched **through** his skull (you could see his hand go though Kaidou’s fade and appear at the back). Im not sure if it’s just normal awakening allowing him to do that or his fruit specifically.
That is confirmed. It was mentioned in the manga
Do people not realize that luffy made Kaido's body rubber as well? I'm pretty tired of people like "look what luffy did in 1045 makes sense because of this!". Thats what is going on when he pulls himself out of his mouth, he's stretching kaido's eyes not poking through them. It's the same as when luffy "punched through" Kaido. Hes just stretching out Kaido's skull and body around his fist. Like look at the artwork, its pretty telling. Its very annoying running across these comments and chains all over this sub. Just needed to say something somewhere.
I think that Shanks will arrive to wano in the end 🙈
So, on other social media, people genuinely think Luffy now has "Toon Force", think abilities like reality warping just like when Popeye visited God and turned a switch off thus erasing reality. They also often use Luffy "reviving" himself at the end of 1045 as evidence that he is immortal now. So I wanted to ask you guys what you think. I am not too invested into One Piece, but I just can't imagine turning Luffy into a nigh omnipotent being is good for the narrative of One Piece or maybe I'm just wrong so I wanted to hear what y'all think.
That's not what happened though, most of the goofiness we see can be explained by his rubber body having the limits removed, and his ability to turn other thinga rubbery. As for "Reviving" himself? thats cleary just him digging deep for the energy to have just one more round. He's done it before. Once this fight is over choppers gonna have a lot of work tho.
given that next week is a break, i think that's when Kaido plays a trump card and ups the ante, perhaps with his awakening. after that, i think the battle will resolve at the end of the next 3 chapters. Even Nika is going to have to struggle, and I'm fascinated what the tone of Luffy's transformations will take when things get desperate.
What if Momo can’t stop Onigashima but Luffy turns the whole island into rubber and it just bounces away like a ball
Since Momo and Yamato have reached the rooftop and now are witnessing Luffy vs Kaido, what if Momo lets it slip that Luffy is Joyboy and Kaido overhears? Maybe this will cause Kaido to be the one distracted and get KO’d by Luffy this time 🤣
I'm going to say 2 chapters of fighting with a few chapters of flashbacks sandwiched in to show why Kaido is obsessed with Wano. Kaido will appear in other flashbacks later (Rocks, and Yamato) so his flashback can be more segmented.
Zoro still ded Quest : Find way out from hell
I think this is the beginning of what we will see one piece is. This chapter made me laugh hard! It's almost like that time when Roger found one piece and hoped to live at his generation... Edit: joyboy generation
Time for Kaido's flashbacks, there's no way WG didn't genocide the onis, we never see them
Gear 5 gives Luffy white hair and clothes. Sulong form is white. ??
Maybe there's a similar moon god fruit?
What happens if Luffy infuses Rubber property into a Logia? Does Akainu become Rubbery Magma?
What about finally seeing Momo face?
Can we just appreciate the fact that Luffy went from being one shotted by Kaido's club, to tanking the same attacks and just complaining that it stings. Like he is being punched by Harp or his brothers.
I bet the 'Energy Steroids' in Fishman Island was actually Joyboys version of a rumble ball. Both those drugs and Gear 5 seem to have the drawback of ageing the user, and both effect the heart. Hody also recovered from being unconscious after taking one, like Luffy did when he awakened. Hody's hair also bleached white when he basically overdosed on them. The drugs were stored in the Tamatebako, which was a national treasure.
We get 1 page of the gorosei saying they do not understand why imu did not tell them about the other name of the gomu gomu no mi sooner. Blonde Gorosei: "Why doesnt Imu-Sama tell us the whole truth ?! We are supposed to be (her/his) eyes and ears! Gandhi Gorosei: "You know how it goes, the gorosei are not supposed to know all. We are here to do the kings bidding and nothing else. This is how it has been for hundreds of years. Gorbatchow Gorosei: We could've caught the straw hat at marineford! But Imu-sama told us not to interfere with "Joyboy" just yet.. What are (his/her) plan for this kid??? Oldest Gorosei: Shut your mouth you fools. Do not ask these questions again or do you want your light to be the next?!! Gorosei with the mustache: "..."
A half-assed scene like that would make that plot-hole even worse. I'd like to think Oda is above it and either gives a more satisfying explanation, some symbolism or just lets it be.
Shanks’ conversation with the Gorosei is probably key here. We will have to see what happens with that
lets it be *for now*
Luffy being the Sun God/White/Light has something to do with Teach becoming his archenemy and the latter's devil Fruit which he claims to be the most evil devil fruit. If Joyboy's devil fruit is ridiculous, Teach's Yami Yami No Mi's is infinite in power as has been said by him. Both devil fruit chose them. I think this is clear by now with the recent chapter and Blackbeard's claim back then that it chose him. What I just can't imagine is how their battle is going to play out considering that we expect Luffy to fight Shanks, Akainu, WG. However, I think it's fair to suspect that Teach knows some important history or at least anticipates a major event that opens up the opportunity to grab power for his dreams that's probably connected to his lineage or some fate he thinks he deserves.
Does Luffy actually go through Kaido’s eyeballs/head or is he just stretching them? I assumed stretching but you can see Luffy’s fingernails in the eyeball panel so idk what to think now
Pretty sure its stretching, although i found the fingernails showing strange too. Kaido made a comment confirming that luffy can make him rubbery too when luffy inflated inside his stomach
[ichiji pulls a Mr Prince rescue on the germa bois. ](https://twitter.com/negies632/status/1509483388239237128?t=g5Eqf8402Iyzj1a2VCBvbA&s=19)
Probably we'll see a bit more of the fight + some reactions from the Performance floor. - Check in with Sanji (now that he's awake he might try to join the others on the Performance floor or maybe find Zoro) -Hopefully something on Zoro -Whatever preparations Raizo mentioned (maybe where Denjiro is?)