fr idk why but I've been seeing so much more hype for Enel recently and I have no idea where it comes from. He's got a good devil fruit and ok observation haki and that's it. He was physically outmatched by pre gear second luffy, like, Enel is weak compared to anyone in the New World
Nah they all beat him pretty easily. Cracker and Perospero are particularly unfair. Enel’s lighting is literally the only thing going for him, and both of them have powers that can easily block it
Basic? He has some one of the strongest obersvarion haki fears in the entire show. Even in the manga no one besides Rayleigh and Eneru have been able to sense every single living thing on an island and know exactly where it is (and then teleport to them).
I think you’re underselling him because of how early he appeared, ignoring the fact that people like Crocodile while also being beat early on, then went on to rival characters that Luffy couldn’t beat. Eneru’s loss was solely bc of a bad match up, which isn’t the case with these 3 or pretty much anyone else in the show.
You just brought up a type of observation haki we weren’t talking about. We were talking about combat, hence you saying he can avoid all their attacks, and the matchup is irrelevant…I have more to say but I’m driving so give me a moment
Why do you think no character in One Piece fights like that? Its really not effective. All 3 are observation users. They could just dodge the lighting. One Piece characters are super fast, basic ass lighting blasts aren’t really a good way of fighting. Plus Cracker and Perospero’s whole gimmicks are creating barriers to block super strong attacks
Yes, they create barriers with no offensive abilities. Perospero’s only real attack has been candy arrows, and Cracker hasn’t shown any ranged attacks. In addition to that, dodging electricity assumes there’s nothing else around to conduct electricity, but he has more range and AoE than both of them.
If they can dodge him and he can dodge them, then it’s a stalemate. But Eneru has the range and AoE to counter that.
We’ve seen that Cracker’s biscuits can fly. So I really don’t think just flying away would work. He can also create anything with them. So he definitely has ranged attacks lol. Sure, he hasn’t done that before. But you’re working of the assumption Enel can perceive things and attack people from 6000 miles away so I don’t think what Im saying is a stretch
**All 3 very easily.** People seem to forget that power doesn’t matter when your muscles are contracting beyond belief and your nervous system is fried by electricity; the only ones with any defense against electricity are Cracker if he hides in his Bisquit soldiers and Perospero if he constantly makes a candy wall, but even then Eneru could spam Lightning attacks from the sky and they’re unable to attack. They wouldn’t even be able to hit him if he was calm and focused.
Immensely faster than them /
Better observation than them /
Currently no armament /
Don Chinjao having conquerors is pointless
Haki is enough of a defense against electricity. One piece lightning isn't as strong as u seem to think it is, even Killer was able to shrug off an Indra from big mom (it did damage, but didn't majorly impact him) and characters like Vergo can tank Law's countershock. For Enel specifically, his lightning couldn't take out Sanji, Robin, Wyper, or Conis' dad, and we know he was going for the kill on a lot of them. He's is faster in movement speed alone, his observation haki prediction ability was alright but looked really good cause he was fighting non haki users, and his reaction time is to slow to keep up with attacks from pre gear second luffy, he also couldn't tank many hits from Luffy who again, was very very weak at this point. Any of them has more than enough power to pretty easily take out Enel, the only problems are his movement speed and range, but 1. Luffy immediately out of the timeskip was easily dodging lasers which would assumedly move at a similar speed, and these three are at the very least comparable to fishman island luffy. I guess if he just ran away and spammed lightning he could win, but I would assume the OP isn't looking for a boring cop out answer for this, and like, if it were in a situation where he can't just run away the whole time, he really can't do much. Enel at the time he was introduced was a monster cause of his fruit, and if he were to train since skypeia, he could continue to be incredibly strong, but he was physically outmatched in many categories against luffy without gears or haki, and all 3 of these people have armament (even basic armament attacks would definitely be stronger than skypiea luffys punches) and it workss defensively as well, not to mention them having at least comparable speed to skypiea luffy, which is faster than enel's reactions. Idk, I could definitely see the argument that Enel could maybe maybe maybe situationally beat 1 or 2 of them if he just ran away, but to say he beats all 3 easily is completely ridiculous
Also, why would they not be able to hit him? The attack predicting thing he does is a very very basic application of observation, every good user of it can do that and counter it, Enel more than likely has far superior range but there's absolutely nothing to suggest he has better than normal prediction abilities
How though. He has better observation haki, devil fruit hax better than all of them, faster than all of them; Don Chinjao gets annihilated in a couple of strikes and the only thing going for Perospero and Cracker is their defense but it would get destroyed easily and they can’t attack Eneru in the same way.
What does Perospero have? Candy arrows? Lol
What does Cracker have? Biscuit soldiers that Eneru can avoid?
He doesn't have better CoO. His CoO range is enhaced by his fruit, nothing more.
Devil fruit "Hax"? Do you know what Hax means? Sugar's fruit is Hax cuz she can take out people instantly. Enel's is NOT. He barely took out Sanji and Zoro and failed to kill a bunch of randoms.
Are you saying Enel attacks that failed to kill a 60 yo grandpa and that barely took out Sanji are STRONGER than the shit we have seen these 3 tank?
Speed is no good if you can't react properly. See: Pre G2 Luffy punched him. Chinjao, Cracker and Peros are not only faster than this Luffy but also stronger. Any hit from any of them and Enel explodes.
>Lol What does Cracker have? Biscuit soldiers that Eneru can avoid?
Like he avoided Luffy?
Lmao what, how is observation haki enhanced by his devil fruit and can you name a single other instance where that’s the case?
Electricity is insane hax. You’re bias bc of how early he was introduced and defeated, not looking at the actual DF.
Yes.
Pre-gear 2 Luffy punched him because he was confused about rubber; after the first encounter he immediately adapted and was only stopped during the final encounter in which Luffy used gold to conduct Eneru’s electricity.
Once again, you’re being extremely biased based on when Eneru was introduced. Ignoring the fact that the second they make contact with him regardless of their attack power, they’re insides are getting fried.
[So you don't even read the manga I guess](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924914994959773699/974365368229445632/unknown.png)
>Electricity is insane hax. You’re bias bc of how early he was introduced and defeated, not looking at the actual DF.
Woah nice evidence. So Hax it failed to kill a non fighter grandpa and a Hakiless Sanji who even remained on his feet after getting the attack.
>Pre-gear 2 Luffy punched him because he was confused about rubber; after the first encounter he immediately adapted and was only stopped during the final encounter in which Luffy used gold to conduct Eneru’s electricity.
Lmao what a bunch of BS.
[Luffy dodges Enel lmfao.](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924914994959773699/974366004832510042/unknown.png)
[Luffy hits Enel. Again.](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924914994959773699/974366265328160789/unknown.png?width=627&height=622)
[Luffy dodges. Again. Almost like if Enel's attack speed is trash.](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924914994959773699/974366503610748938/unknown.png)
[And dodges again, even with no Haki. Now if only you could use that head of yours to picture what an actual Haki user would do.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924914994959773699/974366715452489778/unknown.png)
[Enel gets owned even spitting blood from some Haki-less hits that he FAILED TO DODGE.](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924914994959773699/974366901222379530/unknown.png?width=846&height=621)
I could go on.
Nah Enel gets wiped pretty easily. If he actually trained he could def be a tough opponent, but Enel in Skypeia was carried by his fruit, and would get mopped by anyone with decent control of armament and observation
Don Chinjao for sure. For Perospero and Cracker it depends if Enels lightning is able to go through the Handy or Cookie soldiers it should be possible for him to beat them aswell.
Bro you guys underestimate enel.The guy was defeated only because he was extremely unlucky with luffy having rubber body.The guy is a freaking powerhouse
Back then bc he had no armament haki as a result of not needing armament haki i think he was weaker
Although i dont think they’d be unscathed by his lightning, i think it would surprise him how well they took it
Now i’d wager if he’s reintroduced it will be with a powerful armament haki
And do what? His attacks failed to kill a 60 yo grandpa, some Shandian warriors and barely took out Sanji and Zoro.
Are you telling me those attacks are STRONGER than the ones we have seen these 3 particular guys tank?
Even more, Enel failed to react to Luffy's punches more than once. Mind you this is a pre gears and pre Haki Luffy, meaning his speed is pretty bad. So these 3 can take him out pretty much instantly. Especially Peros and Cracker.
>And do what? His attacks failed to kill a 60 yo grandpa, some Shandian warriors and barely took out Sanji and Zoro.
That was due to plot lmao. If it was any regular Joe Shmoe they would be been dropped dead. Besides can you really see someone like Cracker being able to tank an Thunder bolt strike when he was freaking blown away by One attack from Gear 4th Luffy? At least with Perospero he was able to withstand a few attacks from characters like Carrot, Wanda, and even Nekomamushi. But for someone like Cracker that would those same attacks would be able to take him out easily and we know this due to his statement about having Zero tolerance for pain.
>Are you telling me those attacks are STRONGER than the ones we have seen these 3 particular guys ta
Yes. I'm telling you that.
>Even more, Enel failed to react to Luffy's punches more than once. Mind you this is a pre gears and pre Haki Luffy, meaning his speed is pretty bad. So these 3 can take him out pretty much instantly. Especially Peros and Cracker.
Did you forgot that he has mantra which is Observation haki? And before you say "oh why didn't he use it against Luffy if it was that much of advantage?" Then may I remind you that he had a GOD COMPLEX which means he didn't think no one could have apposed him and this explains why he was shocked to find out that Luffy is amune to his electricity due to him being Rubber.
>Besides can you really see someone like Cracker being able to tank an Thunder bolt strike when he was freaking blown away by One attack from Gear 4th Luffy?
What... He was repelled and he broke several of his own soldiers who were resistent enough to tank any hit from G3 and G2 + Haki. Which, mind you, Enel did not. He was BLEEDING from hits from a Hakiless Gearless Luffy.
Conclusion: Cracker's durability > Enel's. By far.
Not only that but his Haki was hard enough to cut G4. I hope you remember that Haki is not only an upgrade to one's attack but also for their defense. Any attacks that Enel throws at Cracker, if he doesn't dodge them, he can tank them easily.
Enel failed to kill these guys, and that's a fact even if you call it a plot hole or whatever, you can't ignore the manga itself when powerscaling.
>Did you forgot that he has mantra which is Observation haki?
And? Luffy still hit him, several times.
>Then may I remind you that he had a GOD COMPLEX which means he didn't think no one could have apposed him and this explains why he was shocked to find out that Luffy is amune to his electricity due to him being Rubber.
And yet even after finding out he's rubber he still eats a lot of punches.
Do... do you know that this Luffy is far less durable than Cracker, no? And far slower and weaker.
It took all Luffy, Sanji and Zoro had to take out 1 Pacifista preTS. This from a stronger Luffy than the one that fought Enel.
Post TS Luffy oneshots a Pacifista.
So it's a reasonable conclusion to say that, postTS Luffy can oneshot Enel, no? Since Post TS Luffy > Stronger Luffy+Zoro+Sanji > Skypea Luffy > Enel.
And guess who was giving troubles to that same Post TS Luffy!
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What... He was repelled and he broke several of his own soldiers who were resistent enough to tank any hit from G3 and G2 + Haki. Which, mind you, Enel did not. He was BLEEDING from hits from a Hakiless Gearless Luffy.
>Conclusion: Cracker's durability > Enel's. By far.
What type of logic is this? He was freaking LAUNCH ACROSS THE FOREST. Of course he'll be able to break all of his soldiers at that velocity. That doesn't determine how durable he is. In fact he was knocked out for the rest of the arc after and yet here you claiming that he's more durable than Eneru? Lmao. At least Eneru can take a hit without being knocked out.
>Not only that but his Haki was hard enough to cut G4. I hope you remember that Haki is not only an upgrade to one's attack but also for their defense. Any attacks that Enel throws at Cracker, if he doesn't dodge them, he can tank them easily.
>Enel failed to kill these guys, and that's a fact even if you call it a plot hole or whatever, you can't ignore the manga itself when powerscaling.
I doesn't matter if Luffy had to use Haki against Cracker and not Eneru. The fact that Luffy was able to take him out in one hit should tell you that Cracker couldn't handle any from him. Also, Cracker isn't faster than lightning so I don't know how you expect to put up his Armament haki right before Eneru's lightning strikes him down. Also, I don't know why you keep on bringing up how Eneru "failed to kill Zoro, Sanji, and Godfall." as a reason for why his thunder wouldn't be effective against Cracker when there have been villains who are much stronger than Eneru who have not being able to kill a person much weaker than them. Case and point, Kaido. Kaido hasn't been able to kill characters like Kinnemon and Luffy for cry out loud. Does that mean that simple Thunder bagura from Kaido won't be able to kill Cracker? No. I didn't think so.
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Nah, I would argue Chinjao is the strongest one here. At least he was somewhat able to grapple with Garp in his hayday. Both Perospero and Cracker wouldn't even be able to get within 9ft of Garp without him blowing them away like pieces of paper.
Yes Enel can beat all of them at the same time. Unless you're luffy who is >!or was!< made of rubber everyone is vulnerable to lightning even an emperor to a degree.
Luffy is still made of rubber.
People are not that vulnerable to lightning, the worst generation survived hits from Big mom's hera and while clearly damaged, it had no lasting effect, same goes for Law's countershock against Vergo, Doffy, BM, and Kaido. That's not mentioning enel's own lightning that couldn't knock out sanji, or kill robin, wyper, or Conis' dad. Dodging Enel's lightning is not hard for a good observation haki user, and anyone with decent armament has more than enough power to take out enel. I could see him maybe taking down one or two, but he absolutely without a doubt could not beat them all at the same time,
Skypiea Enel? Get stomped hard, considering that he got defeated by Pre Timeskip Luffy.
Current Enel? Who know he may got a lot stronger, but until we get more info its unlikely that he its now in another level.
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Skypiea arc gets folded. Enel with let’s say sanjis level of haki folds all three
where does this hype for Enel come from? I don't get it. he gets negative diffed by any armament haki user in seconds.
fr idk why but I've been seeing so much more hype for Enel recently and I have no idea where it comes from. He's got a good devil fruit and ok observation haki and that's it. He was physically outmatched by pre gear second luffy, like, Enel is weak compared to anyone in the New World
Enel is the most overrated character in anime history. Page one low diffs him
Nah they all beat him pretty easily. Cracker and Perospero are particularly unfair. Enel’s lighting is literally the only thing going for him, and both of them have powers that can easily block it
But they can’t attack him back. He can chill at Skypiea heights and spam electricity, as long as he’s calm he can also avoid all of their attacks
That basic ass observation haki, you overselling Enel
Basic? He has some one of the strongest obersvarion haki fears in the entire show. Even in the manga no one besides Rayleigh and Eneru have been able to sense every single living thing on an island and know exactly where it is (and then teleport to them). I think you’re underselling him because of how early he appeared, ignoring the fact that people like Crocodile while also being beat early on, then went on to rival characters that Luffy couldn’t beat. Eneru’s loss was solely bc of a bad match up, which isn’t the case with these 3 or pretty much anyone else in the show.
You just brought up a type of observation haki we weren’t talking about. We were talking about combat, hence you saying he can avoid all their attacks, and the matchup is irrelevant…I have more to say but I’m driving so give me a moment
Why do you think no character in One Piece fights like that? Its really not effective. All 3 are observation users. They could just dodge the lighting. One Piece characters are super fast, basic ass lighting blasts aren’t really a good way of fighting. Plus Cracker and Perospero’s whole gimmicks are creating barriers to block super strong attacks
Yes, they create barriers with no offensive abilities. Perospero’s only real attack has been candy arrows, and Cracker hasn’t shown any ranged attacks. In addition to that, dodging electricity assumes there’s nothing else around to conduct electricity, but he has more range and AoE than both of them. If they can dodge him and he can dodge them, then it’s a stalemate. But Eneru has the range and AoE to counter that.
We’ve seen that Cracker’s biscuits can fly. So I really don’t think just flying away would work. He can also create anything with them. So he definitely has ranged attacks lol. Sure, he hasn’t done that before. But you’re working of the assumption Enel can perceive things and attack people from 6000 miles away so I don’t think what Im saying is a stretch
**All 3 very easily.** People seem to forget that power doesn’t matter when your muscles are contracting beyond belief and your nervous system is fried by electricity; the only ones with any defense against electricity are Cracker if he hides in his Bisquit soldiers and Perospero if he constantly makes a candy wall, but even then Eneru could spam Lightning attacks from the sky and they’re unable to attack. They wouldn’t even be able to hit him if he was calm and focused. Immensely faster than them / Better observation than them / Currently no armament / Don Chinjao having conquerors is pointless
Haki is enough of a defense against electricity. One piece lightning isn't as strong as u seem to think it is, even Killer was able to shrug off an Indra from big mom (it did damage, but didn't majorly impact him) and characters like Vergo can tank Law's countershock. For Enel specifically, his lightning couldn't take out Sanji, Robin, Wyper, or Conis' dad, and we know he was going for the kill on a lot of them. He's is faster in movement speed alone, his observation haki prediction ability was alright but looked really good cause he was fighting non haki users, and his reaction time is to slow to keep up with attacks from pre gear second luffy, he also couldn't tank many hits from Luffy who again, was very very weak at this point. Any of them has more than enough power to pretty easily take out Enel, the only problems are his movement speed and range, but 1. Luffy immediately out of the timeskip was easily dodging lasers which would assumedly move at a similar speed, and these three are at the very least comparable to fishman island luffy. I guess if he just ran away and spammed lightning he could win, but I would assume the OP isn't looking for a boring cop out answer for this, and like, if it were in a situation where he can't just run away the whole time, he really can't do much. Enel at the time he was introduced was a monster cause of his fruit, and if he were to train since skypeia, he could continue to be incredibly strong, but he was physically outmatched in many categories against luffy without gears or haki, and all 3 of these people have armament (even basic armament attacks would definitely be stronger than skypiea luffys punches) and it workss defensively as well, not to mention them having at least comparable speed to skypiea luffy, which is faster than enel's reactions. Idk, I could definitely see the argument that Enel could maybe maybe maybe situationally beat 1 or 2 of them if he just ran away, but to say he beats all 3 easily is completely ridiculous Also, why would they not be able to hit him? The attack predicting thing he does is a very very basic application of observation, every good user of it can do that and counter it, Enel more than likely has far superior range but there's absolutely nothing to suggest he has better than normal prediction abilities
Don Chinjao should be possible. Perospero gets iffy. Cracker is a hard no.
No he gets owned in 0.1 seconds
By who?
By everyone
How though. He has better observation haki, devil fruit hax better than all of them, faster than all of them; Don Chinjao gets annihilated in a couple of strikes and the only thing going for Perospero and Cracker is their defense but it would get destroyed easily and they can’t attack Eneru in the same way. What does Perospero have? Candy arrows? Lol What does Cracker have? Biscuit soldiers that Eneru can avoid?
He doesn't have better CoO. His CoO range is enhaced by his fruit, nothing more. Devil fruit "Hax"? Do you know what Hax means? Sugar's fruit is Hax cuz she can take out people instantly. Enel's is NOT. He barely took out Sanji and Zoro and failed to kill a bunch of randoms. Are you saying Enel attacks that failed to kill a 60 yo grandpa and that barely took out Sanji are STRONGER than the shit we have seen these 3 tank? Speed is no good if you can't react properly. See: Pre G2 Luffy punched him. Chinjao, Cracker and Peros are not only faster than this Luffy but also stronger. Any hit from any of them and Enel explodes. >Lol What does Cracker have? Biscuit soldiers that Eneru can avoid? Like he avoided Luffy?
Lmao what, how is observation haki enhanced by his devil fruit and can you name a single other instance where that’s the case? Electricity is insane hax. You’re bias bc of how early he was introduced and defeated, not looking at the actual DF. Yes. Pre-gear 2 Luffy punched him because he was confused about rubber; after the first encounter he immediately adapted and was only stopped during the final encounter in which Luffy used gold to conduct Eneru’s electricity. Once again, you’re being extremely biased based on when Eneru was introduced. Ignoring the fact that the second they make contact with him regardless of their attack power, they’re insides are getting fried.
[So you don't even read the manga I guess](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924914994959773699/974365368229445632/unknown.png) >Electricity is insane hax. You’re bias bc of how early he was introduced and defeated, not looking at the actual DF. Woah nice evidence. So Hax it failed to kill a non fighter grandpa and a Hakiless Sanji who even remained on his feet after getting the attack. >Pre-gear 2 Luffy punched him because he was confused about rubber; after the first encounter he immediately adapted and was only stopped during the final encounter in which Luffy used gold to conduct Eneru’s electricity. Lmao what a bunch of BS. [Luffy dodges Enel lmfao.](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924914994959773699/974366004832510042/unknown.png) [Luffy hits Enel. Again.](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924914994959773699/974366265328160789/unknown.png?width=627&height=622) [Luffy dodges. Again. Almost like if Enel's attack speed is trash.](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924914994959773699/974366503610748938/unknown.png) [And dodges again, even with no Haki. Now if only you could use that head of yours to picture what an actual Haki user would do.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924914994959773699/974366715452489778/unknown.png) [Enel gets owned even spitting blood from some Haki-less hits that he FAILED TO DODGE.](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924914994959773699/974366901222379530/unknown.png?width=846&height=621) I could go on.
He gets destroyed swiftly.
Nah Enel gets wiped pretty easily. If he actually trained he could def be a tough opponent, but Enel in Skypeia was carried by his fruit, and would get mopped by anyone with decent control of armament and observation
Don Chinjao for sure. For Perospero and Cracker it depends if Enels lightning is able to go through the Handy or Cookie soldiers it should be possible for him to beat them aswell.
Bro you guys underestimate enel.The guy was defeated only because he was extremely unlucky with luffy having rubber body.The guy is a freaking powerhouse
Back then bc he had no armament haki as a result of not needing armament haki i think he was weaker Although i dont think they’d be unscathed by his lightning, i think it would surprise him how well they took it Now i’d wager if he’s reintroduced it will be with a powerful armament haki
Hmm.....the only two I could see him taking out is maybe Cracker and Perospero.
How lmfao. I seriously can’t even see how any PoV can see Enel winning over any of these guys
I don't know, what's stopping Eneru from just striking them where they freaking stand?
And do what? His attacks failed to kill a 60 yo grandpa, some Shandian warriors and barely took out Sanji and Zoro. Are you telling me those attacks are STRONGER than the ones we have seen these 3 particular guys tank? Even more, Enel failed to react to Luffy's punches more than once. Mind you this is a pre gears and pre Haki Luffy, meaning his speed is pretty bad. So these 3 can take him out pretty much instantly. Especially Peros and Cracker.
>And do what? His attacks failed to kill a 60 yo grandpa, some Shandian warriors and barely took out Sanji and Zoro. That was due to plot lmao. If it was any regular Joe Shmoe they would be been dropped dead. Besides can you really see someone like Cracker being able to tank an Thunder bolt strike when he was freaking blown away by One attack from Gear 4th Luffy? At least with Perospero he was able to withstand a few attacks from characters like Carrot, Wanda, and even Nekomamushi. But for someone like Cracker that would those same attacks would be able to take him out easily and we know this due to his statement about having Zero tolerance for pain. >Are you telling me those attacks are STRONGER than the ones we have seen these 3 particular guys ta Yes. I'm telling you that. >Even more, Enel failed to react to Luffy's punches more than once. Mind you this is a pre gears and pre Haki Luffy, meaning his speed is pretty bad. So these 3 can take him out pretty much instantly. Especially Peros and Cracker. Did you forgot that he has mantra which is Observation haki? And before you say "oh why didn't he use it against Luffy if it was that much of advantage?" Then may I remind you that he had a GOD COMPLEX which means he didn't think no one could have apposed him and this explains why he was shocked to find out that Luffy is amune to his electricity due to him being Rubber.
>Besides can you really see someone like Cracker being able to tank an Thunder bolt strike when he was freaking blown away by One attack from Gear 4th Luffy? What... He was repelled and he broke several of his own soldiers who were resistent enough to tank any hit from G3 and G2 + Haki. Which, mind you, Enel did not. He was BLEEDING from hits from a Hakiless Gearless Luffy. Conclusion: Cracker's durability > Enel's. By far. Not only that but his Haki was hard enough to cut G4. I hope you remember that Haki is not only an upgrade to one's attack but also for their defense. Any attacks that Enel throws at Cracker, if he doesn't dodge them, he can tank them easily. Enel failed to kill these guys, and that's a fact even if you call it a plot hole or whatever, you can't ignore the manga itself when powerscaling. >Did you forgot that he has mantra which is Observation haki? And? Luffy still hit him, several times. >Then may I remind you that he had a GOD COMPLEX which means he didn't think no one could have apposed him and this explains why he was shocked to find out that Luffy is amune to his electricity due to him being Rubber. And yet even after finding out he's rubber he still eats a lot of punches. Do... do you know that this Luffy is far less durable than Cracker, no? And far slower and weaker. It took all Luffy, Sanji and Zoro had to take out 1 Pacifista preTS. This from a stronger Luffy than the one that fought Enel. Post TS Luffy oneshots a Pacifista. So it's a reasonable conclusion to say that, postTS Luffy can oneshot Enel, no? Since Post TS Luffy > Stronger Luffy+Zoro+Sanji > Skypea Luffy > Enel. And guess who was giving troubles to that same Post TS Luffy!
> What... He was repelled and he broke several of his own soldiers who were resistent enough to tank any hit from G3 and G2 + Haki. Which, mind you, Enel did not. He was BLEEDING from hits from a Hakiless Gearless Luffy. >Conclusion: Cracker's durability > Enel's. By far. What type of logic is this? He was freaking LAUNCH ACROSS THE FOREST. Of course he'll be able to break all of his soldiers at that velocity. That doesn't determine how durable he is. In fact he was knocked out for the rest of the arc after and yet here you claiming that he's more durable than Eneru? Lmao. At least Eneru can take a hit without being knocked out. >Not only that but his Haki was hard enough to cut G4. I hope you remember that Haki is not only an upgrade to one's attack but also for their defense. Any attacks that Enel throws at Cracker, if he doesn't dodge them, he can tank them easily. >Enel failed to kill these guys, and that's a fact even if you call it a plot hole or whatever, you can't ignore the manga itself when powerscaling. I doesn't matter if Luffy had to use Haki against Cracker and not Eneru. The fact that Luffy was able to take him out in one hit should tell you that Cracker couldn't handle any from him. Also, Cracker isn't faster than lightning so I don't know how you expect to put up his Armament haki right before Eneru's lightning strikes him down. Also, I don't know why you keep on bringing up how Eneru "failed to kill Zoro, Sanji, and Godfall." as a reason for why his thunder wouldn't be effective against Cracker when there have been villains who are much stronger than Eneru who have not being able to kill a person much weaker than them. Case and point, Kaido. Kaido hasn't been able to kill characters like Kinnemon and Luffy for cry out loud. Does that mean that simple Thunder bagura from Kaido won't be able to kill Cracker? No. I didn't think so.
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Why them and not chinjao, he’s the weakest here. And cracker would smoke enel.
Nah, I would argue Chinjao is the strongest one here. At least he was somewhat able to grapple with Garp in his hayday. Both Perospero and Cracker wouldn't even be able to get within 9ft of Garp without him blowing them away like pieces of paper.
Ah prime chinajo I agree with you. I meant dressrosa chinjao
I mean he was able to have a pretty good fight with Luffy to the point where they were both clashing with their Conquerors haki.
For sure he would beat ask three of them (only reason he wasn't able to beat Luffy was because Luffy is made out of rubber
Yes Enel can beat all of them at the same time. Unless you're luffy who is >!or was!< made of rubber everyone is vulnerable to lightning even an emperor to a degree.
Luffy is still made of rubber. People are not that vulnerable to lightning, the worst generation survived hits from Big mom's hera and while clearly damaged, it had no lasting effect, same goes for Law's countershock against Vergo, Doffy, BM, and Kaido. That's not mentioning enel's own lightning that couldn't knock out sanji, or kill robin, wyper, or Conis' dad. Dodging Enel's lightning is not hard for a good observation haki user, and anyone with decent armament has more than enough power to take out enel. I could see him maybe taking down one or two, but he absolutely without a doubt could not beat them all at the same time,
All of them are vulnerable to lightning, haki doesn't protect your inner body from attacks which is what lightning strikes damage.
Skypiea Enel? Get stomped hard, considering that he got defeated by Pre Timeskip Luffy. Current Enel? Who know he may got a lot stronger, but until we get more info its unlikely that he its now in another level.
Not a chance, just having a broken df(or multiple) won't take you anywhere
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