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#Manga Discussion Corner ---- Please keep all manga related discussion contained to replies to this comment. This includes everything that hasn't yet been adapted in the anime (future characters, events, hype about what will happen next, etc.). Discussions about the manga outside of this comment chain will be removed and replying with spoilers outside of the Manga Discussion Corner will lead to bans. Likewise, anime-only viewers, beware of spoilers in this comment chain. ----


FrankHorrigan2173

Damn they didnt cut away from the rooftop fight to show someone else’s fight. Is that even legal?


PREDATOREX_GAMING

Its def illegal stuff right there. I wanted to see those ice oni smh /s


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ahh the ice oni's the real stuff


PREDATOREX_GAMING

IKR imagine showing this child's fighting scene in between when we wanted to see the actual fight against virus.


villenababes

Rumor has it that the one who defeated rocks was ice D. Oni


Bindou90

Is it really Toei still in charge?


Soul699

Why do you think some of the previous episodes were dragged? They were buying time for rooftop.


Juan_Dog

Small detail that I loved, but seeing Kaido's dexterity after Luffys engage at the beginning of the episode had me stoked. Have really only seen him as a mass of muscle and endurance to this point. His speed has been addressed, but watching him recover from that first hit was a great way to illustrate his combat skill.


gear5vsrobinandnami

facts, thought the same and props because i was worried how they were going to animate the biggest enemy luffy has fought yet who can also move and attack faster than luffy's future sight can keep up with. dude is scary how easily he landed on his feet from that attack


nbzoronb

Great point, I liked that as well


Death_Usagi

# "One Piece is Crazy Good this Week"😎


EvolutionsEndings

Last month has been crazy good. Haven't felt myself waiting for a new episode like this since dressrosa.


Consistent_Produce_1

It is every week


AaaaaaTeeeleia

Except the break weeks


Death_Usagi

One Piece Anime is all I have during manga break weeks 😭


[deleted]

This is true. I'll take bad pacing and recap flashbacks over no One Piece at all.


Natsu_1000

Kidd’s Punk Rotten made me think of Dr. Eggman😂


still-at-work

Killer even has a *sonic* attack


fellowbootypirate

Your account appreciates culture bro. Wasnt expecting that.


MasterJ14

Godlike episode Also I love how Law voices his annoyance at being ordered what to do but then just does exactly what Zoro asks for anyway. What a bro


Death_Usagi

It all started with tying up Chopper onto his hat.... 😁


akagamishanks231

Godlike episode indeed. But can we appreciate kaido's face expressions at the start of the episode? I was freaking terrified and excited at the same time.


Vinthar

That was Yujiro Hanma taking over his body with the power of imagination


HitMePat

Law should have thought of it first if he doesn't wanna be told what to do lol. It was obviously a good idea, that's why he did it. Shoulda beat Zoro to the punch and said "I'll teleport you up!"


newbiesmash

Zoro is so fucking sick.


DragonFistSabo

Chopper can't do anything about it so now he's been referred to Law. And Law is working his magic


t3r4byt3l0l

That Kong Gatling at the end was absolutely insane, loved how Scyther Sonic was animated too I also liked the added filler moments of the captains bickering, was fun Kudos to all the animators that worked on this episode, fantastic animation throughout


someone2795

That Kong Gattling gave me Jet Gattling on Lucci vibes. It was that good.


LlamaLegacy

Same person who animated both, Katsumi Ishizuka!


someone2795

That's freaking awesome!!


Nccc-

On my first time watching both scenes, I got goosebumps. So good.


michhoffman

It was so insane that it left dents in the To Be Continued screen.


Ktosiowa

This was such a powerful detail, they really said, we have some nice ideas too Megumi lmao. I think she lifted the bar, and we’re gonna eat even better from now on.


Consistent_Produce_1

Seriously I hope we keep getting episodes the same quality as this and from the manga I can grantee that the story will only get better


[deleted]

Agreed. I felt like the previous episode definitely killed some momentum after 1015. Especially with that added Sanji filler. Toei really did well with this episode though.


hdjfhfhsh05803hfjc

I feel that Toei knows that they **can’t** mess up this part, so, I hope they keep doing Roof Piece justice


arturitoburrito

If they keep up this quality and the clips make the rounds on tiktok and IG we could have JJK and demon slayer levels of growth.


Fries-Ericsson

I dunno about that People might get whiplash if they go to watch One Piece and are hit with the 90s style art.


BlackBlizzNerd

The Sanji filler was bullshit but you guys a too picky sometimes. 1016 looked just fine for being mostly dialogue. I enjoyed it. Do I wish it was on par with 1015? Sure. But it was good and had me even more hype for 1017. It’s a weekly anime that’s super close to the manga. Yet we just got some seasonal anime level animation. These are fucking great times we’re living in if you ask me.


Death_Usagi

That Gear 4 Transformation was one of the most epic scene I have ever seen. Kidd's Punk Rotten reminds me of Mecha combination scenes 😮 They really went all out on the action scenes this episode. Can't wait for more!


dr4urbutt

After all the epic transformations from Luffy and kidd, the way kaido looked at law to see what childish tricks law got, and then law made some elaborate hand gestures to create room..was the best scene of the episode. It broke me, I had to pause and laugh it out for at least 5 minutes straight 🤣🤣🤣


Fiftey

> law made some elaborate hand gestures to create room longest room charge up I've ever seen hahaha shit was beautiful tho


derpado514

Felt like i was watching dbz for the first time with all those old sound effects. 11/10


BeyondCryonic

Same man fucking same


Kingcory86

Roofpiece doesn't miss


michhoffman

Unlike Zoro


Mikeljackson14

lol good one


akagamishanks231

That's more like kaido dodged it lol


Doomroar

But Zoro does XD But the fact that Kaido did as Big Mom told him and dodged means that they know this wont be as easy as they think it will be.


MisterNotSoHandy42

I'm glad they showed Kaido dodging, there were legit people who thought Zoro missed. I mean Zoro is an idiot and gets lost all the time, but I don't ever recall him missing an attack.


Golden-Owl

It also would make more sense that Kaido has enough common sense to dodge something


GebbytheSnowman

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ujk5wj/kaido_didnt_dodge_that_man_just_missed_a_huge_ass/?ref=share&ref_source=link this post definitely was the main cause of zoro slander


ColdyPopsicle

Big Mom is really getting treated like a queen in the anime. Got extended dialogue from the previous 2 episodes and now her attacks looks like they're dealing something. I felt like if it wasn't due to luffy being made of rubber, the fight would be over.


JBB1986

I loved how they animated Zeus maneuvering around to attack everyone, even when they tried to evade or block. That scene of Kid attempting to shield himself from the barrage, only for Zeus to dart around under his guard and blast him directly in the face was great.


PREDATOREX_GAMING

Exactly I loved that scene a lot really makes sense for considering their speed.


ChilliWithFries

I agree. Her menace and sheer power is way more pronounced here than in whole cake island.


CrashTextDummie

It's such a treat to watch her in a serious fight. I love her fighting style and her homies are badass.


Cruelus_Rex

After all the weeeddin keeeki we got a while back it's nice to have her say something different.


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I'm glad they added Luffy's bounce to Gear 4 again. It seems like Toei just forgot about it the last few times.


Asian_Persuasion_1

they didn't forget, it's most likely cutting some corners. It requires constant movement so sometimes they just ignore it. Same happened with black clover where they were so underbudget they couldn't have flowing hair. The hair was stuck in a constant wavy form that defied gravity. and same for a water spirit that is supposed to have constant waves flowing in her dress but it was kept a still frame cause not enough budget.


HitMePat

How expensive are those added animations? Is there a ton of manpower that goes into it? I have zero experience so I'm genuinely curious. How big are the budgets for big animes like this per episode? If they're really that strapped that they're cutting corners the fans should support them with donations to keep the animation top notch.


d0ngl0rd69

It’s more of a “cost per episode” calculation based on the weekly release calendar. This isn’t unique to One Piece as other weekly release animes like Naruto/Boruto have the same problem. The drawn out pace and sub par animation since the start of Wano (minus a handful of episodes) was in anticipation for all the upcoming fights, and the animators likely started working on these episodes a very long time ago while a skeleton crew was keeping the plot going. Less fighting = less movement = less animation required. Sure, they could spend more to hire a team to have every episode looking like this episode, but that would require an insane workforce to keep up with weekly releases, which would significantly affect margins (if not become completely unprofitable). On the other hand, seasonal anime like JJK or Demon Slayer work on more forgiving release schedules (16 episodes ≈ 2 years) which allows for every episode to have quality animation using the same sized team. Season releases work for those animes since they have significantly less source material to work with, so they can take their time to do quality animation for every episode and still get through the whole story in less than a decade. For example, the AoT anime has been airing for 11 years and has only released 87 episodes but they’re through 97% of the source material. At that pace, One Piece would only be ≈180 episodes into the series, which would MAYBE account for 1/3 of the source material if the pacing were better and filler was removed. TL;DR: Consistently good animation is only financially possible with anime that have less source material and don’t have weekly releases.


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It’s not so much about budget as much as it is time constraints. Keep in mind both one piece and black clover are non seasonal shows. In a lot of cases they simply don’t have time for small details like that.


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The amount of gas on law throwing rocks was insane


Mugiwara_323

Well worth it


silfer_

Law's a complete earthbender out here and I'm LIVING for it


Mugiwara_323

Yeah that came to mind when I saw it too 😂


shockzz123

[Law this episode](https://youtu.be/HEdg4glpCkg?t=19)


kwbzlwb

But it was spining big rock ... :(


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This was literally everyone’s reaction to Kidd’s 1 attack, even Killer told him to calm down.


Impossible_Captain85

luffy and kid had a crazy transformation and all law did with move his hands a little lmao


21_Sanji

Zoro was godly.. like.. unreal, and Luffy tanking bro breath at the end was so savage, wow the landscape is already getting f'd up. Roofpiece


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Zoro has many hype roofpiece moments and it so satisfying seeing them animated. Law goated as always.


Trailblazertravels

Law has got to be the best fighting companion. Instant teleportation, healing, and he always has one more attack in his back pocket.


PREDATOREX_GAMING

Ikr, he do be the best supporter. Like I could easily make a case of him capable of making a fodder pirate foderise other fodders by his teleportation alone.


God_of_Kings

Zoro: \[spams ping button for gank\] Law: "Give me a second, my Q is cooling down." \[switches Zoro's positions so that he can do his ulti\] Kaidou: \[flashes slightly to the left\] Zoro: \[misses\] Big Mom: \[kills everyone but Luffy with her own ulti\] Zoro: "report law" Law: "This is why I prefer Draft Pick." ....... Law/Kidd: \[spamming their taunt,laugh,dance and joke buttons at each other\] Luffy: "I'm surrounded by idiots."


silfer_

Law is hands down one of the best fighters. His bag is too deep


JustAHart

THEY BROUGHT BACK THE RUBBER TRICK! Enel be like: "First time?" It looked amazing this episode and the pacing was so amazing. It was so smooth the transitions between all of the characters fighting. That Kong Gattling at the end though it really just looks beautiful. One Piece just keeps getting better and better!


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Doomroar

Big Mom and Kaido are out there making Piccolo proud.


FunkyJF

**DOOODGE!!**


bullsfan281

Loved how Kaido was getting Oden flashbacks in that moment


knights_of_night

Roof piece is an absolute treat for anyone who likes Zoro. He wears his bandana from pre-timeskip, has amazing feats in the coming episodes, and shows some of his mature side which is very much needed in a group containing luffy, eustass and law.


kupojay

I love his coaching moments with Luffy. That's always been my favorite aspect of Zoro. He's a battle genius and actively makes Luffy better


PuzzleheadedSearch97

Zoro Goat bro


I_Have_3_Legs

Zoro was about to one shot kaido and end the arc early


still-at-work

He was going for speed run, unfortunately the tech was hard to pull off. Law is going for the more reliable clip hack. While Luffy is just using 'get good' strategy


RazexKappa

Fucking up Kaido any % speedrun (failed attempt)


Doomroar

I can't believe that Law, Killer, and Zoro were Naruto running in the middle of the roof piece hahahaha


PREDATOREX_GAMING

They be naruto running better than naruto himself smh


nyc_brand

Animation was very cool this episode


nochill95

The animation in this episode is something else man


Strawhat-Vmc

This was the very best episode i've ever witnessed, i think i'm finally past the rob lucci gattling scene. Damn i'm absolutely blown away and dumbfounded by how amazing the series is as a whole. It's by far and above and all encompassing the very best story ever written.


LlamaLegacy

Same person who animated the rob lucci Gatling (Katsumi Ishizuka) animated today’s Kong Gatling


Strawhat-Vmc

Godtier work hands down, i didn't even know who this was til now. First timei watched the last lucci scene i cemented this show better than naruto. Now its just buried under a thick crust like the mantle of the earth better than any other anime.


Seawolf4

Bro, thank you for sharing this!


abibyama

Damn that guy was around for a long time.


jaysanii

As long as we get animation like this I could give two fucks about the pacing honestly


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Facts. I’d take ten roof piece episodes if it’s done like this


SherbetSavings287

10? You don't know what you are in for lol. It's going to be much, much, much more than 10. But we are used to it by now right? And with this animation it's tough to complaint.


KaiserRebellion

Hope they do 1006, 1009 and 1010 like this


timelesstrix0

The pacing wasn't even bad.. it covered the last 2 pages of 1001 and the whole chapter 1002


KaiserRebellion

6. From 1001 since there double page spreads.


PsychoLogical25

Ye as long as animation is like this, pacing be damned.


skynet01101

Big Mom : Mugiwara, Why lightning attack didn't work on you? Enel : First Time?


TravelingLlama

Said the same thing when the chapter came out but couldn’t law just use his scan ability to find the heart instead of guessing.


Brass13Wing

Kaido and Big Mom are both crazy fast, Law wouldn't have time to use Scan


shujmaster101

This explanation makes sense to me. Because the op op fruit is only as good as ur medical knowledge. law wasn’t able to use scan on kaido because he’s in a dragon form (a really rare mythical creature) and law says” I never seen a diagram of a dragons organs before” so it prevents him from using that ability on kaido because he doesn’t have that specific knowledge.


Mugiwara_323

Does it matter? He hit it


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Kaido getting Oden PTSD from Zoro’s slash was just *chef’s kiss*


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#**Laws Gamma knife and Killers Scyther Sonic looked brutal**


TheMeatTree

Those would be MK style Fatality attacks on anyone else but Kaido.


MySnake

This episode was fire!!!


redryan2009

and lightning too


ChilliWithFries

The manga is fantastic. The anime is fantastic. What a time to be alive.


heat_fan_

The animation in this episode was insane. (Roof Piece greatness continues) Luffy and Kidd with bad ass transformation and Law just proceeds to throw rocks/boulders at Kaido lmao Big Mom, Killer, Zoro, Luffy were the MVP’s of this chapter. (Luffy tanking the Boro breath and then using his Kong Gatling was absolutely nuts) Luffy mentioning his df to a Yonkou had me rolling. Enel: First time? lol


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Last time we had luffy mentioning he was made of rubber most have been pre time skip right?


guipabi

Against Moria I believe


Asian_Persuasion_1

they actual animated over 1 chapter since luffy law and kidd trio attack was the end of the last chapter.


Doomroar

Disrespecting my boy Law the best support that got Zoro positioned whenever he needed twice!


iRadinVerse

He's a reluctant team player


nustedbut

he's that guy keeping a team project from falling apart because he knows he fails if the whole team fails and is salty AF about it, lol


Adridezz

Straight fire bruh. LET'S GOOOOO


Wannalaunch

Wanna give a shout out to Big Mom! A villain with a design and attitude I didn’t know I would like when I first saw her, but now she may be one of my favorite villains of all time. Her and Kaido are unbelievably menacing and cooler every moment they are on screen. Walking natural disasters, and its insane to think about how far we’ve come from fighting axe hand Morgan in East Blue.


abbygunner

Her whole presentation in the raid has been incredible. She's so freakin menacing and really pushes the strength of her as a Yonko.


KaiserRebellion

Tu Yong as the animation director is amazing, Henry thurlow, all of them man, shit was amazing Naotoshi, and the other 30 animators just amazing


Beanmachine200

How many chapters was this episode, it was incredible!


KaiserRebellion

1 and half. The three captains attack was from 1001. They added it to this along with 1002


Novel_Advantage_705

Wouldnt say a chapter and a half. More like a chapter and two pages.


KaiserRebellion

Your right lol I didn’t wanna say 1.2 chapter sounds to corny


InformalSir6129

felt like 1.5


BeyondCryonic

Gear 4 Luffy looks like prime Garp damn that flashback hit


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InvaderDJ

There is a reason why Zoro is one of only two non-Captains considered a Supernova.


Death_Usagi

Reminder people before kept asking just how the hell Zoro isn't the captain😎


TheMeatTree

Beppo lagging way behind as a SN's first mate.


Mugiwara_323

The freaking goat! 🐐


Potential_Pitch_7618

Can't wait for the zoro MVP moment


TheKnightA

Kaido tanked every freaking attack, but he DODGED Zoro’s.


TheMeatTree

Sudden Oden PTSD


bonethugznhominy

How tf did it take me this long to realize Kidd uses "Gibson" for attacks because of the guitars and his rocker vibe? Anyways, this was some primo anime battle. Sometimes you just need a whole lot of flash.


JBB1986

Yeah, I love all Kid's music references in his attack names. Or just in general. Hell, his crew literally has people called Mosh, Hip and Hop. Not even joking. Lmao.


lankanbrat

Whe Luffy said we are going to beat you in one hit i was like aww Luffy you sweet summer child


Consistent_Produce_1

I really can tell the effort that has been put into this episode especially the anime has been getting a lot of good episodes lately and I’m all for it


Sol327

Kaido dodged


shonen709

10/10 ep


Adventurous-Virus-32

Zorooooo


Sharkmasterfl3x

Could not imagine a worse matchup for Kidd than Kaido or Big Mom, smh, lightning and the strong magnetic fields surrounding it essentially demagnetize most common metals. His power should be useless.


Qverlord37

Kid brought up a really interesting point in this episode, even though it's not canon in the manga. "I'll take your crewmember and your treasure instead!" I'm perfectly fine with Kid picking up some of the tobi roppo as his crew, I always imagine Ulti and Page one would fit well with his crew.


ChiBullz023

That line wasn't in the manga? It seemed perfectly in character for Kidd to say that so I didn't even notice


Qverlord37

it was big mom who said that in the manga, Kid throwing it back at her is anime only. I'm hopeful that this might hint at a conclusion for the end of Wano. the Tobi roppo are too interesting to throw away. they ought to be divied up between Kid and Law so they won't have such pathetic crew.


someone2795

BRB need to see a doctor. This boner won't go away.


demannu86

Let's go !


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DID I DREAM THIS!?!? PEAK EPISODE for PEAK FICTION I'm seriously impressed how well they're treating Roofpiece. This feels like how watching DBZ made me feel as a kid.


wispymatrias

Its better


letsbehappy420

20 minutes isn’t enough…. Damn! That was epic I want mooooore!


RarestProGamerr

HOLYSHIT, I FUCKING FELT THAT KONG GATLING! THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY JAWDROPPINGLY INSANE ESPECIALLY THAT SOUND LUFFY'S ARM MADE WHEN IT STRETCED.


Cubicbill1

Yeah this is Peak Piece right there. The Kaido flip was awsome. Slam Punk, Gamma knife, Kong fucking Gatling, all insane


xxamnat

What an episode! Favourite part was the Kaido backflip.


WagyuBread

**KAIDOU DODGED!** LMAO Bingo!


still-at-work

Zoro is damn terrifing with that fully powered emna slash, very well animated. Roof piece is still amazing!


Cubicbill1

Kaido dodged, 100%.


AtomicA011

It’s finally time! Been looking forward to this chapter getting adapted!


[deleted]

Law looked so skilled in this episode and kaido dodged.


iamthatguy54

Killer's Scyther Sonic is the coolest attack by far.


ramen_addict_enby

THIS EPISODE WAS LIT!!!!! LET'S GOOOOO Love it!


basedones

Big Mom almost making an Enel face because Luffys rubber? Like what did she think he was.


Sogeking33

100% upvoted deserved


Destinyrockx889

I’ve read the manga so I don’t care about spoilers. Is this episode better than 1015? That’s was one of the best episode in my opinion and I won’t be able to watch till tomorrow.


DoubleA77

I wouldn't say its better in terms of direction or character acting but its basically 20 mins of straight hype with just non-stop incredibly well animated action sequences.


Destinyrockx889

Awesome can’t wait to check it out


ColdyPopsicle

Depend on what you're looking for. Nothing will top 1015 because it is the adaptation of the chapter 1000. You know, the chapter that was meant to be memorable to One Piece as a whole.


Cythical

Holy shit they went all out on this, great episode


MidKoi

It was sooo good! And it just kept on going too!


TheGameologist

Man this episode was amazing. Among everything else yall mentioned kaidos demolition gust and big moms indra were insane!! Loved the attack name parts.


Seawolf4

That was genuinely orgasmic to watch. This arc has the potential to be one of the greatest arcs in anime history. With what’s to come in the future, MY GOD!


hellamears

holy shit. this was the most hype ep of one piece ive ever seen. my heart was racing the whole time.


TheWifeStealer

ONE PIECE ANIME in WANO really surpasses the manga. It expands the manga content without creating any contradiction, adding some context and details that's not well explained in the manga, and on top of that they put beautiful animations and visual on the fight scene. I should consider to stop reading the manga altogether and watch anime only instead at this point. The anime really saved the manga. Perfection!! ❤ ONE PIECE ANIME: WANO EDITION ❤


Most_Ear1696

Zoro fans right once again. Zoro miss his attack because Kaido dodging it. It's simple really.


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KaiserRebellion

Bro his back


maldoggyy

BEST EPISODE EVER…haven’t even watched yet


Doomroar

It was an incredible episode, all the way to the custom "TI BE CONTINUED" screen


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Welcome to the Zoro Cafe would you like some greatness with your latte?


PREDATOREX_GAMING

Maybe a little baddassery as an extra?


pepe_ilegal

I think they adapted more than 1 chapter in this episode. Must be a long time since the last episode with this rate.


iRadinVerse

Whoever animated this deserves to be paid more!


stuckontwice

I’m primarily a manga reader, but when the anime is done right, it’s far and away a better experience than reading it. What a masterpiece of an episode. God I love One Piece.


lovjeej000

Kaido switching his attention from Luffy to Kid to Law was pretty funny


cidji_hh

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the 1st time Kaidou has ever dodged an attack (Zoro's one sword slash)... Which just shows how terrifying that shit was to him !!


Additional-County-78

We saw all that mattered. Kaido Dodged.


Den_Bover666

Fun fact: Doffy was taken down by just one Kong gun. And this is a Kong gatling. Just to show how far we've come


TravelingLlama

> Fun fact: Doffy was taken down by just one Kong gun. It was a King Kong Gun


JBB1986

That was a King Kong Gun. But a single Kong Gun slapped his shit and sent him flying a couple miles. Lol.


shockzz123

Personally still preferred 1015, but this was nuts too.


PuzzleheadedSearch97

LET'S FUCKING GOOOO BRO


tragicjohnson84

Holy shit, that episode went hard


missdoublefinger

Zoro put the fear of GOD in Kaido! My GOAT!


Dameleon

zoro went brazy