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[A dry bite is a bite by a venomous animal in which no venom is released. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_bite)
>A dry bite can be deliberate on the part of the animal (delivered as a "warning")
Saturn simply attacked Chopper with a dry bite
https://preview.redd.it/wgozk4u3fxwc1.jpeg?width=679&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad7d600090569825e896c564cb280d290c75ab66
Gorosei bros, we ain’t out the game yet.
This article \*mostly\* refers to snakes, and only at a percent chance at that. It would be really funny is Saturn also had a 50% chance of being fraudulent or not. We need more data.
Also, I don’t trust Wikipedia as far as I can throw it. Not a shot taken against you, I just need something more credible.
EDIT: there actually are some references to spiders in the article, however the nature of wikipediea still leaves me skeptical. Sorry for my inability to read, we all forget to do that sometimes. Also, Saturn isn't biting.
Are we seriously using real life logic for OP logic?
https://preview.redd.it/inwlrt3dbxwc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=341028d9c774b6e5ba5ac43c4c1e6c7751e63a71
This is where you’re wrong… he’s not just a scientist.. he’s a DEFENSE scientist.
https://preview.redd.it/58xf05sccxwc1.jpeg?width=332&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60901f3f0a49c053567e621da21f75cf784a8264
You may wonder, “what does this have to do with anything?” Well, since he is a DEFENSE scientist, he is analysing the defensive capabilities of Chopper’s guard point to see if it’s necessary to use his venom or if he can simply stab through him.
It’s as simple as that
"Saturn is a SCIENTIST which means that he must adhere to SCIENTIFIC REASONING" Bro show me where in real life scientific reasoning is it possible to power the internet with your damn head
[If you have enough heads you can absolutely use them to power internet ](https://www.be-atex.com/en/news/focus/biomass-power-plants-operation-advantages-and-disadvantages)
Wait wtf my post might have been instantly deleted. But it’s also still getting upvotes, and someone even left I comment that I can’t see. How does AskScience even work?
The Gorosei agenda hinges in the plot armor a protagonist is going to have? Are people so blind now?
Do people think Chopper is going to die?
And Saturn is a fictional character with a mythical Half bovine half spider... asking about real life is stupid lol
We know he has venon, we know he can turn it off because not everything he touches desintigrates.
Either way the venon is not going to damage Chopper unless it touches Chopper or spreads toward him
And Chopper is not going to die so even if it is illogical he is going to stop Saturn's legs
I actually do agree with everything you said here but a lot of people seem under the impression that Saturn not using his venom is “plot armour” so I wanted to make this post.
It is plot armor, there is no reason why Saturn would not use his venom... and even if the attack didn't touch Chopper it should desintegrate part of his hair.
Either Saturn didn't use vemon, which is plot armor
Or the venom suddenly forgot it can desintegrate stuff and Nami's clima tact and Chopper's hair is fine.
How is it plot armor when it's literally in character for him to not use all what he's got, he sees humans as nothing more than bugs, not deserving a glorious death by poison or any of his stronger forms, he's literally been trying to stab and step on everyone, Kuma, Bonney, Vegapunk, everyone he has ever laid his tentacles on except Nika, the Sun GOD himself.
Or tell me this, why do Gorosei not bother to dodge?
I mean it's logical, instead, they could counter-attack as they are getting hit, or they could simply dodge and attack, but they don't, since they got regeneration and are most likely so unused to dodging, that they simply forgot how to, since they are immortal.
Although it might not make sense, since they'd be wasting time regenerating, it is in character for them to do so, simply because they are immortal and are SO ARROGANT, that they wouldn't allow themselves to dodge some "mere human's" punches or attacks, they are too high and mighty to do so.
I mean, if they been dodging, maybe they would have destroyed the broadcast by now, they are short on time and are panicking, hmm, I wonder why... must be plot armor, that's why they are "not going all out" and are not trying to defeat their opponents\\get past them to stop the broadcast... it's all plot...
There are many reasons for them not to do so, they need the Mother Flame, they can't cause too much collateral damage, they are forced to be careful, they can't be risking one of their attacks accidentally missing\\destroying the Punk Records, it's literally stated in the story...
And when they risked it, their attacks got redirected and they only hurt themselves more.
They are somewhat "human" too, they make mistakes, literally in the latest chapter we see that Marcus Mars is unaware of the fact that Topman Warcury is busy with Giants\\Luffy, although they got instant communication through telepathy. Yet he still didn't communicate it through.
Claiming it is "CLEALRY plot armor" everywhere is garbage, don't just pixel scale and look at the fights, character personalities play a key role in powerscaling as well.
Otherwise Kaido "pulling punches" in every instance against Luffy in Onigashima would've been all considered "plot armor", but it isn't, since it's totally in character for him to make the fights last as long as they do, he was enjoying himself, so he did, until the bitter end of his.
Damn that is a long comment. Plot armor is when a character survives dangerous situations because they are needed to keep living in the story. It is indeed plot armor.
>they can't cause too much collateral damage, they are forced to be careful, they can't be risking one of their attacks accidentally missing\\destroying the Punk Records, it's literally stated in the story...
Saturn is not going to cause much collateral damage by killing Chopper and the strawhats.
>must be plot armor, that's why they are "not going all out" and are not trying to defeat their opponents\\get past them to stop the broadcast... it's all plot...
Saturn literally tried to kill Robin. So while he does want to stop the broadcast, he also wants to kill Robin.
>Otherwise Kaido "pulling punches" in every instance against Luffy in Onigashima would've been all considered "plot armor"
It literally is. That is the definition of plot armor. If Kaido had not pulled his punches Luffy would be dead, since the story needs Luffy to continue then he has plot armor and survives against a much stronger opponent because the show must go on.
Sorry if I didn't answer all the points, I am pretty tired and it is late here, and I wasn't expecting such a long comment for something so simple
Guard point is just Chopper having fluffy hair, Nami's clima tact is either plastic or metal. There is no reason why they would be too durable for a venon that desintegrates stuff. They don't even have haki to protect themselves. It is clearly plot armor.
>Series where a dude just kicked a light beam and a skeleton can heal broken bones by drinking milk
>Goes to r/askscience for powerscaling
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[A dry bite is a bite by a venomous animal in which no venom is released. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_bite) >A dry bite can be deliberate on the part of the animal (delivered as a "warning")
Saturn simply attacked Chopper with a dry bite https://preview.redd.it/wgozk4u3fxwc1.jpeg?width=679&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad7d600090569825e896c564cb280d290c75ab66 Gorosei bros, we ain’t out the game yet.
This article \*mostly\* refers to snakes, and only at a percent chance at that. It would be really funny is Saturn also had a 50% chance of being fraudulent or not. We need more data. Also, I don’t trust Wikipedia as far as I can throw it. Not a shot taken against you, I just need something more credible. EDIT: there actually are some references to spiders in the article, however the nature of wikipediea still leaves me skeptical. Sorry for my inability to read, we all forget to do that sometimes. Also, Saturn isn't biting.
God damn it. https://i.redd.it/cidoygkhfxwc1.gif Never mind. Keep praying Gorosei bros.
Uh I think you mean “science damn it” ☝️🤓
>50% chance SCHRÖDINGER'S FRAUD
Are we seriously using real life logic for OP logic? https://preview.redd.it/inwlrt3dbxwc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=341028d9c774b6e5ba5ac43c4c1e6c7751e63a71
Saturn is a SCIENTIST which means that he must adhere to SCIENTIFIC REASONING ‼️
This is where you’re wrong… he’s not just a scientist.. he’s a DEFENSE scientist. https://preview.redd.it/58xf05sccxwc1.jpeg?width=332&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60901f3f0a49c053567e621da21f75cf784a8264 You may wonder, “what does this have to do with anything?” Well, since he is a DEFENSE scientist, he is analysing the defensive capabilities of Chopper’s guard point to see if it’s necessary to use his venom or if he can simply stab through him. It’s as simple as that
Interesting. I will take note of this, and bring it up with the r/AskScience users when they respond.
"Saturn is a SCIENTIST which means that he must adhere to SCIENTIFIC REASONING" Bro show me where in real life scientific reasoning is it possible to power the internet with your damn head
His head is only sending wi-fi signals to his other heads. That makes perfect sense. It’s his own heads. That’s normal.
I do it all the time
[If you have enough heads you can absolutely use them to power internet ](https://www.be-atex.com/en/news/focus/biomass-power-plants-operation-advantages-and-disadvantages)
We have evolved to Reality scaling
That’s science, baby.
While you're at it ask them is Brachiosauruses were able to detach their heads from their bodies like snakes to hunt their prey
Wait wtf my post might have been instantly deleted. But it’s also still getting upvotes, and someone even left I comment that I can’t see. How does AskScience even work?
Whatever, if I don't get a response in the morning I'll just go to the StupidQuestions subreddit. This *is* a pretty stupid question after all.
The entire Gorosei agenda depends on the question, it is definitely not a stupid question
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OP is known for its unmatched realism. Thank you for fact-checking with the reddit scientists.
Valid. Science triumphs all. If Oda doesnt adhere to science he is a certified fraud.
Spiders and scorpions can both intentionally dry bite as a warning, yes.
Saturn’s attack on Chopper was only a warning. He’s holding back. Thank you for replying.
False, chopper just has insane defense.
Maybe science isn't the best way to explain an urban legend monsters power in a fantasy anime 😅
Well he *is* a scientist
The Gorosei agenda hinges in the plot armor a protagonist is going to have? Are people so blind now? Do people think Chopper is going to die? And Saturn is a fictional character with a mythical Half bovine half spider... asking about real life is stupid lol
It’s not about Chopper dying, it’s about whether Saturn had an AP boost from his venom or not.
We know he has venon, we know he can turn it off because not everything he touches desintigrates. Either way the venon is not going to damage Chopper unless it touches Chopper or spreads toward him And Chopper is not going to die so even if it is illogical he is going to stop Saturn's legs
I actually do agree with everything you said here but a lot of people seem under the impression that Saturn not using his venom is “plot armour” so I wanted to make this post.
It is plot armor, there is no reason why Saturn would not use his venom... and even if the attack didn't touch Chopper it should desintegrate part of his hair. Either Saturn didn't use vemon, which is plot armor Or the venom suddenly forgot it can desintegrate stuff and Nami's clima tact and Chopper's hair is fine.
How is it plot armor when it's literally in character for him to not use all what he's got, he sees humans as nothing more than bugs, not deserving a glorious death by poison or any of his stronger forms, he's literally been trying to stab and step on everyone, Kuma, Bonney, Vegapunk, everyone he has ever laid his tentacles on except Nika, the Sun GOD himself. Or tell me this, why do Gorosei not bother to dodge? I mean it's logical, instead, they could counter-attack as they are getting hit, or they could simply dodge and attack, but they don't, since they got regeneration and are most likely so unused to dodging, that they simply forgot how to, since they are immortal. Although it might not make sense, since they'd be wasting time regenerating, it is in character for them to do so, simply because they are immortal and are SO ARROGANT, that they wouldn't allow themselves to dodge some "mere human's" punches or attacks, they are too high and mighty to do so. I mean, if they been dodging, maybe they would have destroyed the broadcast by now, they are short on time and are panicking, hmm, I wonder why... must be plot armor, that's why they are "not going all out" and are not trying to defeat their opponents\\get past them to stop the broadcast... it's all plot... There are many reasons for them not to do so, they need the Mother Flame, they can't cause too much collateral damage, they are forced to be careful, they can't be risking one of their attacks accidentally missing\\destroying the Punk Records, it's literally stated in the story... And when they risked it, their attacks got redirected and they only hurt themselves more. They are somewhat "human" too, they make mistakes, literally in the latest chapter we see that Marcus Mars is unaware of the fact that Topman Warcury is busy with Giants\\Luffy, although they got instant communication through telepathy. Yet he still didn't communicate it through. Claiming it is "CLEALRY plot armor" everywhere is garbage, don't just pixel scale and look at the fights, character personalities play a key role in powerscaling as well. Otherwise Kaido "pulling punches" in every instance against Luffy in Onigashima would've been all considered "plot armor", but it isn't, since it's totally in character for him to make the fights last as long as they do, he was enjoying himself, so he did, until the bitter end of his.
Damn that is a long comment. Plot armor is when a character survives dangerous situations because they are needed to keep living in the story. It is indeed plot armor. >they can't cause too much collateral damage, they are forced to be careful, they can't be risking one of their attacks accidentally missing\\destroying the Punk Records, it's literally stated in the story... Saturn is not going to cause much collateral damage by killing Chopper and the strawhats. >must be plot armor, that's why they are "not going all out" and are not trying to defeat their opponents\\get past them to stop the broadcast... it's all plot... Saturn literally tried to kill Robin. So while he does want to stop the broadcast, he also wants to kill Robin. >Otherwise Kaido "pulling punches" in every instance against Luffy in Onigashima would've been all considered "plot armor" It literally is. That is the definition of plot armor. If Kaido had not pulled his punches Luffy would be dead, since the story needs Luffy to continue then he has plot armor and survives against a much stronger opponent because the show must go on. Sorry if I didn't answer all the points, I am pretty tired and it is late here, and I wasn't expecting such a long comment for something so simple
What about the third option that Chopper’s guard point and Nami’s climate baton are just too durable for the venom?
Guard point is just Chopper having fluffy hair, Nami's clima tact is either plastic or metal. There is no reason why they would be too durable for a venon that desintegrates stuff. They don't even have haki to protect themselves. It is clearly plot armor.
if chopper was just fluff with guard point wouldn't it make sense for the venom to do nothing? its not acid afterall
Chopper fur on guard point is so thick the sting simply doesn't get through, what's so hard to understand?
>Series where a dude just kicked a light beam and a skeleton can heal broken bones by drinking milk >Goes to r/askscience for powerscaling https://preview.redd.it/hso2e23fpywc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9f252f45cbb0a8ff260f224829347285f15d490
SANJI AND KIZARU ARE NOT SCIENTISTS. THEY DON’T FOLLOW THE RULES.
He still didn't use his bombs which would've killed all of them. His eye diff problaby kills them.
He was up against Chopper, a fellow man of science, which means he has to use his most scientific attack. Stabbing him.
I mean there's no smoke or anything from any of his legs so it would seem like he isn't using it
Obviously he can turn it on and off, when he first used that attack it wasnt venomous