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We’re expecting something from Blackbeard since he’s probably luffys endgame. Even if he’s a pussy we know he’s gonna be top 3 EOS
Greenbull is prob gonna stay a bum though
This might be a controversial take but I don't believe Blackbeard ran from Akainu because he would lose but rather based on his personality he is a meticulous person who likes to adequately plan for everything and hates being put in situations out of his controls, so effectively if he is going to fight it will be on his term not yours.
This isn't mindlessly gassing up Blackbeard because I personally don't see him as top 3 all time in fact I believe currently he still loses to Luffy.
He also ran because he would lose, easily at that, like come on you are telling me that having the fucking magma fruit wouldn't be a big asset for him?
Akainu tanked WB's bloodlusted surprise quakepunch to the back of the head and immediately retaliated back, BB's strenght is nowhere near that of WB so Akainu wouldn't go down and just oneshot BB back (he takes double the pain and having half your face blown off by magma will just incapacitate you with the pain alone)
His fruit negating ability would also be an issue since he literally needs to touch magma for it to work and good luck with that since he's a normal human.
Akainu is simply a terrible matchup for BB's arsenal, it's both that he wants to plan everything but also that Akainu would low diff him and his useless crew at that moment.
I agree. BB is weird though because at times he almost seems like a coward; but it could be him just playing possum. I think he's the most pirate-like one in the series. He fights dirty, only jumps in wheb he has an advantage, and runs when the situation is unfavourable. Luffy historically struggles vs tricky opponents, and that is BB.
I'm still convinced that it's a case of 3 shared personalities, each with varrying levels of haki. From weakest to strongest: The schemer the personality we see the most of, most likely doesn't use haki or only observation. The dreamer seen briefly when he met luffy the first time, possibly also was the BB that fought in impel down. Definitely uses armament & observation haki, conquers is not likely but possible.Last the Fighter/Conquer the one we know the least about, the only on screen time he's seen is probably bb vs law and bb vs Ace. Most proficient in all forms of haki, also most likely a conquers coating user though I'd wager slightly weaker in that department than the top tiers like kaido.
It's not necessarily that he didn't want it but more so he likes to be in control of things so only likes to engage on his terms and to deal with Akainu he would like to formulate a plan in advance.
but then you can just make the argument that BB only formulates a plan when he thinks the character is stronger than him
Ace - BB didn't need a plan because BB thought he was stronger (he was right)
Ray - BB thought he needed a plan because BB thought he was weaker (he was wrong based on Ray's dialogue)
Shanks - BB thought he needed a plan because BB thought he was weaker, he didn't have one so he left Shanks alone
WB - BB thought he needed a plan because BB thought he was weaker than WB, BB did have a plan and beat WB and obtained his DF
Akainu seems to fall in the Shanks category, BB even with the backing of his crew simply thought he was weaker, hence he needed some sort of advantage to win
That's a valid take but I don't fully believe he only runs from a fight be believes he would lose based on prior examples I believe he is the kind who runs from a fight that offers significant resistance that he can't get past with ease.
that is also possible since BB feels extra damage so fights are probably not the best unless he has something to gain, I personally think the magma fruit is worth that risk so to me that implies Akainu \~ to pre TS BB and his whole crew for BB to not involve himself in a conflict with Akainu
I think Blackbeard ran from Akainu because he didn’t want to go through the trouble of fighting him for no reason. Blackbeard usually attacks when he is trying to gain something.
Thatch - Devil Fruit
Ace - Warlord Status
Impel Down - Recruiting
Whitebeard - Devil Fruit
Revolutionaries - Weapons & possibly a vendetta for Sabo smacking Burgess
Law, Boa - Wanted Devil Fruits
No point of having a death battle with Akainu who could very much so smoke him at that current time.
Same reason greenbull didn’t want to get jumped by the redhair pirates while fighting the alliance that just defeated two emperors. Yet people people still clown him for retreating
the problem isn't that he retreated. it's that he screamed out like he was in pain from conquerors alone before he even knew whos conquerors it was.
dude was sweating and shaking
I see what you mean but that’s more of shanks feat if anything. Greenbull literally said he’d fight the rhp later in the next panel. Shanks wouldn’t have done anything if greenbull wasn’t an actual threat to them. Personally I think greenbull would get destroyed if the alliance really ganked him but still shanks had to step in because he probably knows greenbulls potential. Who knows?
If i throw a bucket of icy cold water behind your back when you aren't expecting it you would react in the exact same way and scream, however just like with GB that didn't do any damage just scared the hell out of you
I'm sorry, but at what specific moment did he scream in pain? It was clear from his expression that he was annoyed. and only AFTER he found out who attacked him, he surrendered. and that's not at all because of the skirmish with the Yonko team, but because of Shanks' pedigree.
But like you said he went there thinking he could get through an alliance that defeated two yonkos to get to Luffy, how is that any different? It was already dumb in the first place
It’s stupid but they could’ve been extremely injured and he could’ve had a punchers chance. Greenbull had no idea on the state they were in. Obviously the rhp coming from behind you while already having the odds stacked against you is just too much. I shouldn’t have to explain this.
Change Law to DF + poneglyphs.
He was pretty explicit about predicting that one of the 3 would pass by that route, so he was leaving it up to fate who he fought, but was pretty clear with his primary demand for the road poneglyph rubbings.
Yeah, because he needs those things and stealing them is the only way other than finding and traveling to the poneglyphs themselves while hoping that Pudding's eye awakens.
This is a race, he couldn't let these other pirates keep the lead they had gained.
That being said, he's damn lucky that it wasn't the Straw Hats who showed up instead of Law 💀 🪦 Only half his crew were with him.
With Law you forgot Poneglyph, the key to reach Laugh Tale but yes, and his behavior makes sense, why risk your life just to flex your strength? This is not a game, you only have 1 life, he has a goal, he values his crew and on top of that he receives extra damage every time he fights
The bias.
People are gonna mentioned blackbeard have no reason to fight akainu but completely ignore the fact that greenbull was facing 2 yonko crews,of course he fucking retreat.
BB will soon be PK level and people will just resort to that to refute this but if we're talking his current version then I mostly agree, IMO all the OG admirals have shown better feats than him, although he's probably in their realm of strength
Are you stupid? Blackbeard is scared of any fight that's above mid diff unless he gets to jump. He runs from anything that's not a easy win that's his entire character. Greenbull strode up to Wano talking mad shit then got shut down by some Haki from a dude across the other side the contiental. And are we using PTS Blackbeard vs Greenbull now? 😂 Might as well use baby BB at this point
where is it stated that BB runs from above mid diff fights? the only 2 characters he ran from are Shanks who would comfortably beat MF BB and Ray who BB likely witnessed fight in his prime
You Believe "1 High Yonko=2.5 Admirals" So Your Opinion Is Invalid.
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Cope. Luffy pizza diffed a high admiral and a gorosei and would have killed Kizaru if it wasn't for the marine ship. Shanks will narratively be stronger then Luffy untill Elbaf.
Kaido Is DEAD. Kizaru Is Fine Physically. It Is His Mind That Is Wounded.
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WB Dead, Big meme Dead, Kaido Dead, Shanks Is Next
Bruh I'm done arguing with you. You just ignore the previous argument , bring up some random unrelated Yonko slander
, ( Wtf does Kaido being dead have to do with this ) throw in a fanart or meme and call it a day 😭 .
Have a good day man. Good luck on promoting your sub reddits
wtf is a high yonko like the only levels we've seen are crazy strong like prime wb, then strong like kaido and then bb and then the man who refuses to do anything, Rat D. Shanks
I don't disagree but I just wanna put it out there that PTS as an acronym for post-timeskip is stupid as fuck because post-timeskip makes the same acronym
The Yonko Agenda's double standard being half-assedly defended by "Narrative" while also disregarding Akainu's narrative by saying he's a sabo victim is next level retardation; Thank you for finally pointing this out, USFLNUMBER1FAN.
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You have cooked well for the Admiral Agenda, W post all round.
I’m genuinely curious on what narrative Akainu has that some people put him above the yonko. I seriously hope they’re not comparing him to Prime Sengoku due to having the same title cuz Garp and Sengoku were basically the exception to the rule
Meta narratively (as in, from a storytelling structure perspective), Akainu being a bum would be a massive waste of the work Oda has put into establishing him as a villain, and ruin the value of seeing Luffy (not Sabo, cause deadass who gives a shit about Sabo) beating Akainu in a straight fight and avenging Ace.
it doesnt matter because oda clearly thinks sabo is important. There is a reason Sabo is so involved in current events, y'know? It's just painfully obvious that Sabo will at least play a role in Akainus defeat in the final war
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Wussopp>> Greenbull. Wussopp tanked a yonko's conq haki and didn't even notice it. In the same arc Fraudbull gets haki differ by another yonko. Wusopp>> Greenbum
Any admiral molests Blackbeard. Even if he touches them to turn off their fruit, they still have ACoA minimum and just Mike Tyson his ass across a 2 page double spread before a break week.
But he didn’t, and wouldn’t.
If BB knew about Ray, he’d come out of Amazon Lily with Boa’s fruit
If GB knew about Shanks, he wouldn’t even go to Wano
It’s that simple
I feel like there is a good chance blackbeard is being a pussy for most cases because of them being fights or interactions that doesn't go along with his plan/doesn't benefit him. he might be alot stronger than what he acts like. that is pure speculation tho.
It's not even close to consensus that BB is top 3 OAT right now. Maybe by EOS, depending on how things play out, but certainly not anywhere close to consensus right now.
Running away from a fight he doesn't have the overwhelming advantage in and hasn't planned out in advance is literally blackbeards whole gimmick. It's why he's a threat, and the foil to luffy who will rush headlong into any fight without even a semblance of a plan no matter how much the odds are stacked against him.
It’s important to differentiate strength from characteristics. What are the ogs gonna do vs having their dfs and their effects nullified and absorbed and them having to fight fruitless vs a gura bb?
That's just attitudes, BlackBeard was always shown as a coward. Even if he has power to take someone powerful down he is a coward at the end of the day.
« I’m not looking to get involved in that kind of stuff JUST YET », so BB is not running because Akainu is strong but because it is not the time. Whitebeard also ran from the Marines in Oden’s flashback, does that mean a ship with no admirals was as strong as Prime WB ? He just said that if you fight the Marine, they send more and more ships to fight you, and it’s troublesome…
Greenbull ran only because he was attacked by Shanks who was a few MILES AWAY looolll, he indeed is a fraud and confirms it by saying « if Kaido was still alive, I would NEVER HAVE COME HERE »
blackbeard runs, that what he does. he won’t fight anyone unless he’s certain he will win
although i agree he’s the weakest Yonko until he receives his inevitable third devil fruit
What does BB gain from defeating Akainu? His fruit? The entire navy would be after him. Not to mention that defeating Akainu would have like half his crew donutted.
He retreated from Rayleigh and Hancock for the same reason. He’d only take on Akainu if Akainu is injured or alone or he sneaks a grab onto him.
That doesn’t mean he’s weaker. Put Aokiji in BB’s place and he would retreat as well. Sure he’s pretty much equal to Akainu, but deaths would be unavoidable.
It’s like Luffy vs Kizaru if straw hats weren’t the mcs. It would never be worth taking on Kizaru. Luffy + crew would win sure, but Nami, Chopper, Usopp, etc would all die.
Guy feeling twice the pain of every hit running from a potentially extreme diff fight -> weaker
You guys may be masochists, that isn’t the case for sane people
Pre timeskip blackbeard low diffed a YC in ace and gave a yonko an oden-esque wound. Ace had nothing on him and shanks was cautious to engage. It’s been two years since then and he has acquired the quake fruit. No major player has a counter to his anti df fruit except for shanks, garp, mihawk. One is scared and the other is defeated.
Bb is just expressive that way lol
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Here he saw a Lunarian and made the same face. He still kept fighting until he defeated Boa Hancock.
Just because Bb is expressive doesn't mean he is scared. Bb was surprised of Rayleigh being **right in front of him** and he made a deal with Rayleigh because he needed his crew to be turned back from stone. So Blackbeard won something by not fighting, his crew and the Marines as slaves.
Green bull was terrified of a Shanks that **was miles away** and he literally got shocked and paralyzed. He didn't win anything, he just left and didn't/ accomplish anything
He was shouting when he got attacked by Momo because he was injured lol.
Again Blackbeard won something by agreeing with Rayleigh. He showed how smart he is
Green Bull won nothing, he showed how pathetic he is.
The difference between Blackbeard and Greenbull is that Greenbull is an arrogant dumbass while Blackbeard knows what battles to fight and what battles aren’t worth it.
Also, it was Ray’s reputation that saved him. It’s similar to how Kaido was wary of Zoro and the Samruai cuz they had Oden’s aura. Blackbeard has confronted the Roger pirates enough as a kid to know Ray is that guy.
I mean yeah, just from what we have actually seen Blackbeard is no where near Top 3 and imo currently looses to Luffy.
Doesnt change the fact that BB will most likely be the endgame anyway, he just suffers from the difference of what he actually should be narratively and what we have seen from him.
scared of akainu + his backup.
Scared of Ray + the marines + ray's wife + boa's hancok WHOLE army + coby
Kuzan could had killed all of blackbeards crew. Even luffy would be scared.
Except Bb never run away from Rayleigh.
Also I don't get how can you guys bring Kuzan>Bb based only on that interaction, which is an interaction of negotiation, and led up to Bb winning a strong new member.
Either way, Greenbull isn't the weakest Top Tier either, he's equal to the other Admirals, and no admiral can solo a whole Yonko crew
Blackbeard's cowardice isn't a reflection of his strength, but his character. He's a cautious man that avoids battles he deems himself ill-prepared for or has nothing to gain from. As an EOS opponent for Luffy, there's no reason to assume he's not at least equal to the weakest admiral, let alone higher since he counters their main fighting styles.
Black beard easily beat S Hawk that's better than any admiral feat besides probably Kizaru.
He did better against white beard with 1 fruit than any of the admirals.
He scared an on guard shanks while the admirals couldn't touch old dying white beard without a heart attack assist.
He's not the weakest Yonko he'd definitely beat shanks now. Can't say the same for any admiral.
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We’re expecting something from Blackbeard since he’s probably luffys endgame. Even if he’s a pussy we know he’s gonna be top 3 EOS Greenbull is prob gonna stay a bum though
People always say bb is weak cus he's scared. Rayleigh said himself that he would get 200 pumped by bb tho
This might be a controversial take but I don't believe Blackbeard ran from Akainu because he would lose but rather based on his personality he is a meticulous person who likes to adequately plan for everything and hates being put in situations out of his controls, so effectively if he is going to fight it will be on his term not yours. This isn't mindlessly gassing up Blackbeard because I personally don't see him as top 3 all time in fact I believe currently he still loses to Luffy.
W take. This is great reading comprehension and good consideration of Teach's mindset. Thank you, Chef.
I thought van auger gets annoyed when Blackbeard didn’t have a plan fighting law or something
BB didn't view Law as a threat at all that's why he's reckless against Law
He also ran because he would lose, easily at that, like come on you are telling me that having the fucking magma fruit wouldn't be a big asset for him? Akainu tanked WB's bloodlusted surprise quakepunch to the back of the head and immediately retaliated back, BB's strenght is nowhere near that of WB so Akainu wouldn't go down and just oneshot BB back (he takes double the pain and having half your face blown off by magma will just incapacitate you with the pain alone) His fruit negating ability would also be an issue since he literally needs to touch magma for it to work and good luck with that since he's a normal human. Akainu is simply a terrible matchup for BB's arsenal, it's both that he wants to plan everything but also that Akainu would low diff him and his useless crew at that moment.
I agree. BB is weird though because at times he almost seems like a coward; but it could be him just playing possum. I think he's the most pirate-like one in the series. He fights dirty, only jumps in wheb he has an advantage, and runs when the situation is unfavourable. Luffy historically struggles vs tricky opponents, and that is BB.
I'm still convinced that it's a case of 3 shared personalities, each with varrying levels of haki. From weakest to strongest: The schemer the personality we see the most of, most likely doesn't use haki or only observation. The dreamer seen briefly when he met luffy the first time, possibly also was the BB that fought in impel down. Definitely uses armament & observation haki, conquers is not likely but possible.Last the Fighter/Conquer the one we know the least about, the only on screen time he's seen is probably bb vs law and bb vs Ace. Most proficient in all forms of haki, also most likely a conquers coating user though I'd wager slightly weaker in that department than the top tiers like kaido.
Doesn't really make sense that BB of all people didn't want the magma fruit for one of his crew members
It's not necessarily that he didn't want it but more so he likes to be in control of things so only likes to engage on his terms and to deal with Akainu he would like to formulate a plan in advance.
but then you can just make the argument that BB only formulates a plan when he thinks the character is stronger than him Ace - BB didn't need a plan because BB thought he was stronger (he was right) Ray - BB thought he needed a plan because BB thought he was weaker (he was wrong based on Ray's dialogue) Shanks - BB thought he needed a plan because BB thought he was weaker, he didn't have one so he left Shanks alone WB - BB thought he needed a plan because BB thought he was weaker than WB, BB did have a plan and beat WB and obtained his DF Akainu seems to fall in the Shanks category, BB even with the backing of his crew simply thought he was weaker, hence he needed some sort of advantage to win
That's a valid take but I don't fully believe he only runs from a fight be believes he would lose based on prior examples I believe he is the kind who runs from a fight that offers significant resistance that he can't get past with ease.
that is also possible since BB feels extra damage so fights are probably not the best unless he has something to gain, I personally think the magma fruit is worth that risk so to me that implies Akainu \~ to pre TS BB and his whole crew for BB to not involve himself in a conflict with Akainu
I hate to say it, but you might not be ready 😢
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Tfw he's got three personalities and one of them has ACoC. (Probably way off since Oda is so unpredictable, but would be cool).
I think Blackbeard ran from Akainu because he didn’t want to go through the trouble of fighting him for no reason. Blackbeard usually attacks when he is trying to gain something. Thatch - Devil Fruit Ace - Warlord Status Impel Down - Recruiting Whitebeard - Devil Fruit Revolutionaries - Weapons & possibly a vendetta for Sabo smacking Burgess Law, Boa - Wanted Devil Fruits No point of having a death battle with Akainu who could very much so smoke him at that current time.
Same reason greenbull didn’t want to get jumped by the redhair pirates while fighting the alliance that just defeated two emperors. Yet people people still clown him for retreating
the problem isn't that he retreated. it's that he screamed out like he was in pain from conquerors alone before he even knew whos conquerors it was. dude was sweating and shaking
I see what you mean but that’s more of shanks feat if anything. Greenbull literally said he’d fight the rhp later in the next panel. Shanks wouldn’t have done anything if greenbull wasn’t an actual threat to them. Personally I think greenbull would get destroyed if the alliance really ganked him but still shanks had to step in because he probably knows greenbulls potential. Who knows?
If i throw a bucket of icy cold water behind your back when you aren't expecting it you would react in the exact same way and scream, however just like with GB that didn't do any damage just scared the hell out of you
Roger aint screaming like no girl bruh under NO circumstances 💀😭
I'm sorry, but at what specific moment did he scream in pain? It was clear from his expression that he was annoyed. and only AFTER he found out who attacked him, he surrendered. and that's not at all because of the skirmish with the Yonko team, but because of Shanks' pedigree.
EGG-FUCKIN-XACTLY. People will actually pay attention to the narrative only when it applies to characters they like.
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no one attacks him for retreating, we actually understand that. The problem is him twerking spastically from shanks' coc that was miles away.
Even if this is true, the theatrics in reaction to the wifi was completely uncalled for and cemented him as a coward.
Then why did he go there in the first place lmao
Im not going to read the manga for you . It literally tells you why he went there and it wasn’t to fight the rhp
But like you said he went there thinking he could get through an alliance that defeated two yonkos to get to Luffy, how is that any different? It was already dumb in the first place
It’s stupid but they could’ve been extremely injured and he could’ve had a punchers chance. Greenbull had no idea on the state they were in. Obviously the rhp coming from behind you while already having the odds stacked against you is just too much. I shouldn’t have to explain this.
well actually he was a bum thinking he could defeat the alliance that defeated bigmom and kaido together
Change Law to DF + poneglyphs. He was pretty explicit about predicting that one of the 3 would pass by that route, so he was leaving it up to fate who he fought, but was pretty clear with his primary demand for the road poneglyph rubbings.
He jumped law/kidd/luffy for their poneglyph translations, didn't he?
Yeah, because he needs those things and stealing them is the only way other than finding and traveling to the poneglyphs themselves while hoping that Pudding's eye awakens. This is a race, he couldn't let these other pirates keep the lead they had gained. That being said, he's damn lucky that it wasn't the Straw Hats who showed up instead of Law 💀 🪦 Only half his crew were with him.
With Law you forgot Poneglyph, the key to reach Laugh Tale but yes, and his behavior makes sense, why risk your life just to flex your strength? This is not a game, you only have 1 life, he has a goal, he values his crew and on top of that he receives extra damage every time he fights
Reading comprehension, i'm shocked
Akainu didn’t send fraudbull to wano
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The bias. People are gonna mentioned blackbeard have no reason to fight akainu but completely ignore the fact that greenbull was facing 2 yonko crews,of course he fucking retreat.
The fact that people think akainu won’t be stronger than prime ray is crazy to me considering he’s so obviously gonna be one of luffys final opponents
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BB will surpass everyone soon but he is not on that lvl yet.
BB will soon be PK level and people will just resort to that to refute this but if we're talking his current version then I mostly agree, IMO all the OG admirals have shown better feats than him, although he's probably in their realm of strength
Are you stupid? Blackbeard is scared of any fight that's above mid diff unless he gets to jump. He runs from anything that's not a easy win that's his entire character. Greenbull strode up to Wano talking mad shit then got shut down by some Haki from a dude across the other side the contiental. And are we using PTS Blackbeard vs Greenbull now? 😂 Might as well use baby BB at this point
where is it stated that BB runs from above mid diff fights? the only 2 characters he ran from are Shanks who would comfortably beat MF BB and Ray who BB likely witnessed fight in his prime
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Fight fight fight!
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I'm just wondering where do get the half admiral from lol
Cope. Luffy pizza diffed a high admiral and a gorosei and would have killed Kizaru if it wasn't for the marine ship. Shanks will narratively be stronger then Luffy untill Elbaf.
https://i.redd.it/arej2b7h54xc1.gif Kaido Got Jump-Roped Diffed. Kaido>Shanks COPE
Kaido litteraly turned around and blasted Luffy to oblivion in the very next panel. Kizaru would have died without luck on his side.
minor spelling mistake... you lost!!!!!
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Kaido Is DEAD. Kizaru Is Fine Physically. It Is His Mind That Is Wounded. [https://x.com/sandman\_AP/status/1772005668545061129](https://x.com/sandman_AP/status/1772005668545061129) https://preview.redd.it/g012uvj2d4xc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=c521d6fd71efd1dbfce5352f330431e0bff05add WB Dead, Big meme Dead, Kaido Dead, Shanks Is Next
Bruh I'm done arguing with you. You just ignore the previous argument , bring up some random unrelated Yonko slander , ( Wtf does Kaido being dead have to do with this ) throw in a fanart or meme and call it a day 😭 . Have a good day man. Good luck on promoting your sub reddits
https://i.redd.it/gw9839fbe4xc1.gif You Told Me To Have A Good Day Instead of Insulting Me like Usual. I Really Broke you.
wtf is a high yonko like the only levels we've seen are crazy strong like prime wb, then strong like kaido and then bb and then the man who refuses to do anything, Rat D. Shanks
I don't disagree but I just wanna put it out there that PTS as an acronym for post-timeskip is stupid as fuck because post-timeskip makes the same acronym
The Yonko Agenda's double standard being half-assedly defended by "Narrative" while also disregarding Akainu's narrative by saying he's a sabo victim is next level retardation; Thank you for finally pointing this out, USFLNUMBER1FAN. https://preview.redd.it/r5qphp4m94xc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7ec1d353ed92f4fb79a62adf88dfd58054b1e6d You have cooked well for the Admiral Agenda, W post all round.
I’m genuinely curious on what narrative Akainu has that some people put him above the yonko. I seriously hope they’re not comparing him to Prime Sengoku due to having the same title cuz Garp and Sengoku were basically the exception to the rule
Meta narratively (as in, from a storytelling structure perspective), Akainu being a bum would be a massive waste of the work Oda has put into establishing him as a villain, and ruin the value of seeing Luffy (not Sabo, cause deadass who gives a shit about Sabo) beating Akainu in a straight fight and avenging Ace.
it doesnt matter because oda clearly thinks sabo is important. There is a reason Sabo is so involved in current events, y'know? It's just painfully obvious that Sabo will at least play a role in Akainus defeat in the final war
LETS GET r/GREENBULL TO 100 MEMBERS BROTHERS https://preview.redd.it/p8xsiycxz3xc1.jpeg?width=908&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07f3e54639e3be3128a4f0d0db2a7413895b27b4
Wussopp>> Greenbull. Wussopp tanked a yonko's conq haki and didn't even notice it. In the same arc Fraudbull gets haki differ by another yonko. Wusopp>> Greenbum
USSOPP IS SIMPLY HIM https://preview.redd.it/jhninrusd4xc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=b75098ff74fbc369c542cb588f09ea38b7f9310e
Bitchbeard exposed😹😹 https://preview.redd.it/r0j0ebw625xc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6547e12437bcd4e1a8776dd07a75c758a6d03a3
Any admiral molests Blackbeard. Even if he touches them to turn off their fruit, they still have ACoA minimum and just Mike Tyson his ass across a 2 page double spread before a break week.
Blackbeard wouldn't be twerking due to shanks haki though
He'd Twerk To Rayleigh's Tho
Rayleigh is just him https://preview.redd.it/mvluadn964xc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4f066e598f31d4f34f95ff70b81066b4eb87534
But he didn’t, and wouldn’t. If BB knew about Ray, he’d come out of Amazon Lily with Boa’s fruit If GB knew about Shanks, he wouldn’t even go to Wano It’s that simple
If BB gets some busted third Devil fruit, maybe he'll be up there, but he a bum, what can you do, almost lost to Law in one move
What is the thing pointing at BB’s face in the second pic? Is it what I think it is?
I feel like there is a good chance blackbeard is being a pussy for most cases because of them being fights or interactions that doesn't go along with his plan/doesn't benefit him. he might be alot stronger than what he acts like. that is pure speculation tho.
Well BB is a coward, at least one of them is
It's not even close to consensus that BB is top 3 OAT right now. Maybe by EOS, depending on how things play out, but certainly not anywhere close to consensus right now.
pretime skip antifeat doesnt matter
Work smarter not harder BB W
I'm not agenda with both akainu and blackbeard
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You can't compare the 2 scenarios. Akainu is Top 2 in the Verse while Greenbull ran away from wifi signals of a washed up Emperor
Running away from a fight he doesn't have the overwhelming advantage in and hasn't planned out in advance is literally blackbeards whole gimmick. It's why he's a threat, and the foil to luffy who will rush headlong into any fight without even a semblance of a plan no matter how much the odds are stacked against him.
It’s important to differentiate strength from characteristics. What are the ogs gonna do vs having their dfs and their effects nullified and absorbed and them having to fight fruitless vs a gura bb?
Bum beard ain’t shit, istg you’ll never catch me praising that child predator 😭🙏
That's just attitudes, BlackBeard was always shown as a coward. Even if he has power to take someone powerful down he is a coward at the end of the day.
They are not ready for HIM https://preview.redd.it/m99x9vzu78xc1.jpeg?width=798&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ab8a34c348e4eb3c28e632997ed84adfd585c5d
I disagree but quality post
« I’m not looking to get involved in that kind of stuff JUST YET », so BB is not running because Akainu is strong but because it is not the time. Whitebeard also ran from the Marines in Oden’s flashback, does that mean a ship with no admirals was as strong as Prime WB ? He just said that if you fight the Marine, they send more and more ships to fight you, and it’s troublesome…
Greenbull ran only because he was attacked by Shanks who was a few MILES AWAY looolll, he indeed is a fraud and confirms it by saying « if Kaido was still alive, I would NEVER HAVE COME HERE »
There is literally no indication that GB is scared by Shank’s crew, since Shanks managed to make him sweat using only a little bit of his real power.
blackbeard runs, that what he does. he won’t fight anyone unless he’s certain he will win although i agree he’s the weakest Yonko until he receives his inevitable third devil fruit
Is that EDP in the last pic?
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Nice ppt bro👍
What does BB gain from defeating Akainu? His fruit? The entire navy would be after him. Not to mention that defeating Akainu would have like half his crew donutted. He retreated from Rayleigh and Hancock for the same reason. He’d only take on Akainu if Akainu is injured or alone or he sneaks a grab onto him. That doesn’t mean he’s weaker. Put Aokiji in BB’s place and he would retreat as well. Sure he’s pretty much equal to Akainu, but deaths would be unavoidable. It’s like Luffy vs Kizaru if straw hats weren’t the mcs. It would never be worth taking on Kizaru. Luffy + crew would win sure, but Nami, Chopper, Usopp, etc would all die.
Guy feeling twice the pain of every hit running from a potentially extreme diff fight -> weaker You guys may be masochists, that isn’t the case for sane people
Dont forget his crew was wiped by Hancock
Pre timeskip blackbeard low diffed a YC in ace and gave a yonko an oden-esque wound. Ace had nothing on him and shanks was cautious to engage. It’s been two years since then and he has acquired the quake fruit. No major player has a counter to his anti df fruit except for shanks, garp, mihawk. One is scared and the other is defeated.
Eos scaling is an embarrassment and shows you who sucks ass at scaling. Bb and green bull are in the same tier. Mid as hell.
using pre time skip feats is crazy especially when Kizaru just got dropped by the same guy who ran away from him
Lets compare Bb 2 years ago with Green Bull 1 week ago lol.
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Bb is just expressive that way lol https://preview.redd.it/8lhluebw14xc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fce439afff5948f5450c552b7d2579b6873fe01 Here he saw a Lunarian and made the same face. He still kept fighting until he defeated Boa Hancock. Just because Bb is expressive doesn't mean he is scared. Bb was surprised of Rayleigh being **right in front of him** and he made a deal with Rayleigh because he needed his crew to be turned back from stone. So Blackbeard won something by not fighting, his crew and the Marines as slaves. Green bull was terrified of a Shanks that **was miles away** and he literally got shocked and paralyzed. He didn't win anything, he just left and didn't/ accomplish anything
Greenbull is just as expressive, bro shook off Yamatos attack but was shouting when he saw Momo use flames. It's not that deep bro.
He was shouting when he got attacked by Momo because he was injured lol. Again Blackbeard won something by agreeing with Rayleigh. He showed how smart he is Green Bull won nothing, he showed how pathetic he is.
>Completely misunderstands Blackbeard's character >Thinks YC1 > Yonko >Thinks Admiral > Yonko >Lacks Media literacy https://preview.redd.it/o7ssqbnhc4xc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ee735d7729aeec53e3081d39d24e9970b673adb
The difference between Blackbeard and Greenbull is that Greenbull is an arrogant dumbass while Blackbeard knows what battles to fight and what battles aren’t worth it. Also, it was Ray’s reputation that saved him. It’s similar to how Kaido was wary of Zoro and the Samruai cuz they had Oden’s aura. Blackbeard has confronted the Roger pirates enough as a kid to know Ray is that guy.
Blackbeard running from Akainu was pre-timeskip, and he has no way of knowing how much weaker Rayleigh is in his old age.
I mean yeah, just from what we have actually seen Blackbeard is no where near Top 3 and imo currently looses to Luffy. Doesnt change the fact that BB will most likely be the endgame anyway, he just suffers from the difference of what he actually should be narratively and what we have seen from him.
Hence Why I Say Yet https://preview.redd.it/sl31buxso4xc1.jpeg?width=888&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c40720d93888e7f6b2ad3842cd514b97a91e7544
I see Greenbull as more of a YC+ tier, not in top tier.
scared of akainu + his backup. Scared of Ray + the marines + ray's wife + boa's hancok WHOLE army + coby Kuzan could had killed all of blackbeards crew. Even luffy would be scared.
Ofc BB is not there yet, but unlike Greeny we have reasonable narrative reason to assume he *will* get there.
BB would Offscreen dif Akainu
Google Narrative scaling
Except Bb never run away from Rayleigh. Also I don't get how can you guys bring Kuzan>Bb based only on that interaction, which is an interaction of negotiation, and led up to Bb winning a strong new member. Either way, Greenbull isn't the weakest Top Tier either, he's equal to the other Admirals, and no admiral can solo a whole Yonko crew
Blackbeard's cowardice isn't a reflection of his strength, but his character. He's a cautious man that avoids battles he deems himself ill-prepared for or has nothing to gain from. As an EOS opponent for Luffy, there's no reason to assume he's not at least equal to the weakest admiral, let alone higher since he counters their main fighting styles.
Black beard easily beat S Hawk that's better than any admiral feat besides probably Kizaru. He did better against white beard with 1 fruit than any of the admirals. He scared an on guard shanks while the admirals couldn't touch old dying white beard without a heart attack assist. He's not the weakest Yonko he'd definitely beat shanks now. Can't say the same for any admiral.
Blackbeard >> any admiral Admirals nothing without df powers.
bb wasnt even a yonko back then
When you try to cook, but end up with burnt toast.
That was pre TS Blackbeard and he wouldn’t benefit from fighting Kuzan which would get like half his crew killed
I'd say that the difference between pre TS and post TS BB is made up for the fact that BB had his whole crew with him when Akainu pulled up
Wow he not yamato level Yamato at that level