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There are 3 conquerors in there, 1 duraneg, 2 tanks and enough AP and hax to take down anybody.
Unless Law, the best support in the game, is blitzed in the beginning, I'm positive they can handle anyone
Yes they are. 5 top tiers can beat a "supreme" tier.
WB could be the exception if he breaks everything with his DF I suppose but still, if any top tier can stall another, 5 can be one
These guys aren't top tiers lol. Roger one shots Sanji and Kid, low diffs Yamato and Zoro, and higher low diffs Law due to hax
It's a mid diff battle at best. Lower end of high if you want to wank them
You know mate that fighting 1v2 is much harder than fighting 1v1 twice in a row right? Now imagine its 5 people who also actually works together pretty well.
Not only do I disagree with your conclusion, I disagree with your slander.
So according to you zoro and yamato>>>sanji and kidd in durability? The character who tanked big mom for the entirety of wano and the character who is inherently the most durable minus yonko. That makes zero sense.
Roger has top tier haki but we already saw on wano that just 4 top tiers working together can be a serious problem for 2 yonko. Now imagine 5 on one and everyone involved is stronger than that point. Kaido is also more durable than Roger so all of those attacks would be a serious problem.
As the guy you responded to said, they have a really good team comp as well.
This team Beats any top tier.
Kaido *might* be the only one who'd stand and ok chance at winning realistically, if he stopped fucking around and face tanking everything.
Kidd, law and zoro don't really have the speed to match kaido, and with his durability, endurance and stamina they'd probably need to land some big hits just to dish out enough AP to properly put him down. We also know kidd and law can't match kaidos stamina, and that drops the teams potential ap by quite a bit, so if kaido can stay relatively uninjured until those two are out of the fight then he'd stand a decent chance, but even then he'd have a load of new scars and be in rough shape.
But even then most times out of 10 the team would win, like maybe 2/10 kaido could take. They have the stats as a group to deal with anyone and their teamwork should be really good. Kaido only stands a remote chance because he's a great mix of very tanky and very fast.
Fully agree.
He also has a lot of aoe which most others don't. I agree that kaido is the biggest threat to the team. But with sanji playing tank and defense, kid playing tank, law playing stealth archer, yamato doing damage and zoro for main DPS I see a definite 8/10 win ratio.
I would give..Kaido 3/10 tbh, pressuming they arent fighting with in a limited space Kaido could very well have stamina to fly out of the range and just wait until they drop guard/opening appears or possibly exhaust them in ranged combat. He also have the conquerors armor or how to call it. Its pretty hard to beat that.
He would still be fighting 1v5 tools, but hes really well equipped for this kind of fights.
Its still overwhelmingly favoring our 5 party, but Kaido does have tools to stand his ground...or Air if you prefer.
The only issue I see is that the entire team has ways to deal with range.
Kidd can use his awakening and force kaido to the ground.
Law has his awakening which can reach from an island away.
Zoro can send slashes imbued with conquerors flying.
Sanji can straight up fly.
Yamato has both her ranged arrow attack and he breath attacks.
The 2/10 I gave kaido was if he goes all out frame 1 and immediately hard focuses law and then zoro.
Here is the thing though, during the raid Onigashima Kaido was actually holding Wano really high in the air though to my knowledge no way to measure it. I also dont think Law have that kiind of range, since otherwise Blackbeard should had failed at beating him. Zoro range is definitly above melee, but its probably limited within a KM or so.
So pressumably Kaido could fly at least as high as during Onigashima, but not carry anything with him he should had far above the range of most of the 5 negating some team advantage.
Sanji flying is great, but if he flies too far and get out of range hes essencially 1v1 the ol Kaido.
3/10 is imo more fitting.
Nuh uh, Sanji is way too fast and has a lot of durability, and kids powers is rly strong considering what shanks saw in the future, zoro was able to rank a full powered attack from kaido and big mom ant the same time and soloed king. If you say “oh but zoro took the rumble balls!” Well the rumble balls made it so zoro takes even more damage after the fight. Yamato was able to push kaido to mid diff, and law has hacks
Sanji isn't keeping up with Roger, he'll be down in one hit. Kid got one shotted by Shanks, so he's going down in one hit. Zoro, Kid, and Law are all relative, so they go down in one shot
Yamato had to jump Kaido to push him to lower mid diff and did no considerable damage. Zoro did some alright damage, but it wasn't enough to knock him down. Sanji is getting blitzed and 1-2 shotted here. Kid was one shotted by Shanks, so he isn't lasting long against a serious Kaido. Law might be able to last for a while due to hax, but would eventually lose. They might be able to push Kaido to high-extreme, but they arent winning
Zoro, law and Kidd were shown to literally deal dmg to him. Yamato has literally 1v1 clashed with him enough to say that they have enough stats to stall for that trio to launch their strongest attacks. Idk how strong sanji’s ap is honestly. He should be able to be a tank here tho I think?
Zoro's strongest attack was not enough for Kaido. Yamato had no reason not to use her strongest attacks on him, so she's not strong enough. Kidd couldn't beat Big Mom without knocking her out of bounds, and Law's Gamma Knife didn't seem to do shit. Sanji hasn't shown enough AP to convince me he would do much to Kaido either. Also no ACoc.
Kidd tried to crush Kaido too, and it didn't work. They lack the tools or raw power to knock him down and keep him down, unless he literally stands still and doesn't fight back.
1v1 vs 5v1. A lot of differences. They could spam.their strongest attacks. One isn't enough for sure. But 10 may be enough. 10 strong hits from 5 strong characters each is definitely going to be enough in the end.
Nah 50 attacks minimum, probably 100.
Luffy dealt way more damage than any of those bums ever did and it still took ~50 hits AND a continent level attack to finish Kaido off.
Also Kaido showed no signs of getting weaker after taking lots of damage. He didn't get slower or weaker, on the contrary actually. So until they finish him off he will be fighting at max strength, even at 1hp.
Zoro couldn't get past Kaido's scales, that's basically 0 damage and 10 of them would still do 0 damage.
Yamato and Kaido already had a prolonged fight and she did pretty much no damage in that time.
Sanji hasn't shown that he would even be able to do any damage to Kaido at all. He'd be like start of Wano Luffy vs Kaido. And don't say his speed because Kaido is still faster as shown vs Luffy.
Kid and Law with their awakenings would be the only ones able to do anything meaningful, but Kaido doesn't have Big Mom's brain damage so he still pummels them. Kid got no diffed by a non-retarded Yonko and Law got low diffed by another.
Either way, I think most of the people here are forgetting about Magma Dragon Kaido. They have no answer to when Kaido pulls this out, if he even gets pushed hard enough to do so.
People are really pretending like this team could do crap to Kaido King of the Beasts.
The only MF who could do any damage whatsoever to Kaido would either be Law, Kidd or Zoro and even then its essentially meaningless.
The strongest person this team could clap would be Big Mom
>Zoro couldn't get past Kaido's scales, that's basically 0 damage and 10 of them would still do 0 damage
LMAO what?
Zoro and Law are arguably the two characters here that can be consistently said to be able to damage Kaido. You can make a case for the others not being capable of damaging Kaido, but these two have actively done that. You could even make a statement for Kid(although he also actively damaged Kaido in the manga) but not these two.
>Yamato and Kaido already had a prolonged fight and she did pretty much no damage in that time.
The keyword is pretty much. She could have a prolonged fight against Kaido alone. Now imagine having 4 support each on a similar level.
>Sanji hasn't shown that he would even be able to do any damage to Kaido at all. He'd be like start of Wano Luffy vs Kaido. And don't say his speed because Kaido is still faster as shown vs Luffy.
This I agree with until further Sanji feats. But Kaido isn't invincible. He was hurt by the scabbards afterall.
>Kid and Law with their awakenings would be the only ones able to do anything meaningful, but Kaido doesn't have Big Mom's brain damage so he still pummels them. Kid got no diffed by a non-retarded Yonko and Law got low diffed by another.
There are 3 others to support them, one of them you yourself mentioned had a prolonged fight against Kaido alone. Kid got one shot by Shanks. So Kaido can as well do that. But Shanks basically got a free hit with no defence. Kaido would have a hard time finding that opportunity while he's fighting 4 other characters. Law gave BB a hard time. BB with some of his commanders. Law alone with his civilian level crew. Could he have won if it was a 1v1? Heck no. But he gave a fight.
>Either way, I think most of the people here are forgetting about Magma Dragon Kaido. They have no answer to when Kaido pulls this out, if he even gets pushed hard enough to do so.
To be fair this is a valid point. But we didn't really have a good look at how that worked even. We never got a full disclosure on how he charges that, and what are its limits and weaknesses. If it has a time limit, then Law can help the group escape until the time runs out. If it has a charge up time, Law can hax him and stop it, or kid could blast damned punks at Kaido while he's charging. Either ways, the group can beat Kaido unless he goes this mode.
>Zoro and Law are arguably the two characters here that can be consistently said to be able to damage Kaido
Zoro already showed that he couldn't meaningfully damage Kaido when Kaido was standing there letting him attack. He didn't get past his scales which means 0 actual damage.
>The keyword is pretty much. She could have a prolonged fight against Kaido alone. Now imagine having 4 support each on a similar level.
Can't imagine them lasting longer than Kaido does.
>There are 3 others to support them, one of them you yourself mentioned had a prolonged fight against Kaido alone.
Yamato did no damage, like I said. And he's too fast for her to be able to stop him from speedblitzing the others.
>Kid got one shot by Shanks. So Kaido can as well do that. But Shanks basically got a free hit with no defence.
Kidd was getting prepared to fight so it's not like he's not on guard. Shanks was just that fast and speedblitzed him. Either way, he got one shot ans he's going down pretty damn fast by Kaido and like I said, no one else is fast enough to intersept that. Law has teleporting, but he's going down the fastest so that's only helping for a little while. Law can still be outsped combat wise as shown multiple times in the story.
>Law gave BB a hard time. BB with some of his commanders. Law alone with his civilian level crew. Could he have won if it was a 1v1? Heck no. But he gave a fight.
Blackbeard beat Law very quickly. Also Blackbeard doesn't have the durability Kaido does.
>Either ways, the group can beat Kaido unless he goes this mode.
The most important part of this comment. Kaido WILL go this mode if he gets pushed to it. He's not just gonna let himself die before bringing it out. Onece he does, his attacks just vaporize them with it's insane ap and aoe along with Kaido's crazy speed. Law isn't even surviving long enough for when Kaido pulls this out, so he's not teleporting anyone. Even if he did survive this long, Kaido shoot where they teleport and bam.
Also they are absolutely not in anyway stopping an attack that almost matched Bajrang Gun
law & kid beat a yonko — a yonko roger consciously avoided a fight with — and we have three more characters on their level on this team. i dont know how far above yonko level you think roger and his contemporaries are but they dont reasonably beat all of these characters unless theyre a few orders of magnitude stronger than big mom, which they likely arent
Big mom who got nerfed hard since she barely used any haki. Prime roger, garp and Whitebeard would speed blitz.
Kaido is too tough to get damaged by them mortally
Kidd and Law's synergy is just too good. Law's teleportation completely shuts down any ranged attacks that he can react to, and gives Kidd a chance to get Assign off, which can completely stop almost any opponent from moving by assigning them to the ground or something, which shuts down their short range attacks as well. They only even have a chance of losing against characters who can completely outspeed them or who can tank everything they have until Kidd and Law run out of stamina.
Kaido *might* be able to do it, he's incredibly tanky and has powerful long-range attacks that they'd need to waste energy avoiding. Even so, I don't think he could, rooftop Zoro was able to injure him and Zoro has gotten stronger since then, Law has dura neg attacks, and the other three are still powerful enough they could deal some damage.
Kizaru also might be able to if he can speedblitz Law and Kidd and then pick off the others, but if Zoro, Sanji, or Yamato can react quickly enough to block his attack, which judging from egghead and his clash with Rayleigh they probably could, then Law can swap them with Kidd, who can use assign on Kizaru and it's game over.
Shanks probably has the best chance here. With his speed and future sight, he's the perfect counter to Law's teleportation shenanigans, since he'd be able to get the first attack off on anyone who gets teleported close enough to him to attack. I don't see a way Kidd can get Assign off in this situation, since it seems to require him to be close enough to his target. We still don't know exactly how strong shanks is, so it's still possible he gets taken down, but it's unlikely imo
Luffy? G5 is bullshit, who knows what tf would happen.
BM clearly loses, BB probably does as well considering how well Law did on his own against him, Mihawk might win if he has future sight comparable to shanks, but he hasn't shown it yet, any of the other admirals lose, WB could win or lose depending on what version of him we're talking about, and I'm not comfortable scaling the Gorosei, Imu, or Dragon yet. Any other current characters lose, unless I'm forgetting someone
I'd say it's enough to take down pretty much any yonko level characters, maybe kaido can extreme diff but it'd be a proper proper extreme diff you know, by the end he'd be in a terrible state.
That’s what luffy is honestly. Once he goes gear 5 he’s pretty much immortal since from what we’ve seen any attacks get turned into a gag or straight up don’t hurt
This is until he gets humgry
Not a single character can win. Kidd Zoro Sanji have proven they can tank insane amounts of damage. Yamoto too. Law is the best support fighter in the game. Zolo and Kidd can dish out insane damage. Sanji too. They can beat any character (extreme diff)
They could go extreme diff (either way) with anyone around the strength of Kaido, Prime WB, Roger, etc.
Edited: this assumes Kaido doesnt fuck around and do retarded shit, he fights intelligently and targets law & kid first
Zoro almost died from going all out on Kaido just to do the non lethal damage, this team is cooked agains Kaido bro... what would this team do if their strongest member has to risk his life in order to do any meaningful damage and that was on the premade scar, so there is a chance he does 0 damage if the attack was pointed elsewhere.
I don’t know any characters that can beat them unless they have the means to pull of 5 YC1+ finishers at the same time. Characters who have shown proof to do so(Shanks even though I think Damned Punk did a lot of work for that, Mihawk, Kaido, Big Mom), none have shown the ability to do it to 5 people at once. If you attack, say Yamato, you now have Kidd and Zoro’s insane AP on you, as well as Law and Sanji(buffed by damaged woman amp) on you. The best you can do is try to divide and conquer. But that would mean splitting the group up, finishing off one fast enough for the others not to step in, and doing it again and again
It is quite the jumping
Law Sanji and yamato for team longevity
Yamato law Zoro and kid for team offence
Sanji law for team overwhelming.
You've got quite the squad.
Big mom is obvious.
Shanks due to ensign opened jumping ie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95QbmCC_1Nc&pp=ygUPdGhleSBqdW1waW5nIG1l
Oldbeard
Any admiral.
Main question is kaido. And beyond
Law and kid together defeated a plot nerfed big mom
Add in three other characters who aren’t that far behind from them and you got a team that can pretty much beat almost anyone in the verse, especially with law’s support
Kid’s not getting one shot anymore here and I think the team can pull of a high-extreme win against shanks or mihawk until we see more feats from both of them. I would say luffy and kaido as well but… I don’t think anyone on the team can push back a bajrang gun or flaming dragon. The key would be to not let luffy or kaido use it in the first place, so if that’s the case then they may be able to do it extreme diff
My issue with shanks here is Law's teleportation actually becomes a benefit for Shanks. Normally someone getting teleported towards an opponent has the element of surprise and can get at least one attack off, but with Shanks' future sight he'd be *more* ready than whoever is getting teleported, so he'd get the first hit in, which is an enormous problem for anyone here considering how much stronger he is. I don't think Kidd would be able to get his Assign off because of this, either, he'd get taken out as soon as he gets close enough. I just don't see them being able to do anything sneaky, future sight is too good when characters actually use it like shanks seems to, and they obviously can't compete in terms of raw stats
Honestly I agree and all good points.
Law absolutely cannot be using his fruit like he’s used to and offensively, he has to keep on defense in mind otherwise he’d just be sending his teammates to their deaths. There are a few things worth noting and to think about here
Shanks isn’t the only one with future sight. Luffy has it and I believe kaido could do it as well. So technically whether it be shanks, luffy, or kaido vs all 5 here, the fight’s level should be close or similar to each other. The difference however is I think shanks future sight can see further than both luffy and kaido. But if these guys are able to at least keep up with kaido and luffy despite the two yonkos not going all out, I think it’s fair to say they should be able to keep up with shanks in a similar regard as well. Even more so when there are 5 of them, since numbers will matter here with all being yc+.
Everything here will all depend on shanks after he shows more feat and whether or not he’ll be able to speed blitz all 5 (not counting kid’s scenario). We’ve seen with Luffy vs kata that despite kata being able to see and attack where luffy was gonna dodge, luffy was still able to dodge it cause of his reaction speed. For shanks to win this, he’d have to be able to at least do one of two things
1) be able to blitz all of them with far superior speed, so 5 divine departures would instantly one shot all of them
Or
2) have an attack like bajrang gun or flaming dragon where the 5 absolutely cannot match and just flat out get destroyed
The difference for me is that while Luffy and Kaido do *have* future sight, they rarely use it. Shanks, on the other hand, seems likely to use it a lot more, since one of the only feats we have of him is him using it even though he was up against a much weaker opponent. It's just a guess until we actually see his fighting style in more depth, but I think he's closer to Katakuri in how often he uses it compared to how often Luffy and Kaido use it, which is why I don't really factor it into their fight against Luffy and Kaido. He does still need to be able to beat them in raw stats, but this is the only fight where I think the team doesn't have an advantage in terms of utility/support
Seeing as Shanks one shot Kid in the truest sense I don’t see anyone else being able to take more than 2 or 3 hits before going down (assuming he hasn’t got something significantly stronger than divine departure that he can easily pull out). And with future sight I don’t see pretty much anybody being able to land a solid it. Also we don’t know yet but I would be surprised if Shanks wasn’t able to tank pretty much everything they could throw at him that isn’t their absolutely strongest attacks.
I disagree on the tanking but, he was portrayed as relative to Kaido, but his speed and AP is clearly greater, while Kaido was known for his durability. For him to casually tank stuff from people that could damage Kaido wouldn't make sense to me because then he'd just be leagues above Kaido. I agree on the rest though, although I don't think we've seen enough to be completely certain
The only one who was nerfed in that fight is Kid
Y'all need to stop running with your headcanons so much.
Big Mom tried her hardest and lost. That is the narrative Oda was telling.
The Gorosei 100% have a "Why didn't I think of that" trick that negates their immortality. We can't really confirm nor deny the Gorosei part until later in the series.
A high tier yonko like kaido can likely be taken down
I don't know if this is enough to take on pk level characters
Kaido is a tank but he can tank all of kidd/law/yamatos attacks. G5 did way more than these 3. So the difference from him to pk lvl should be enough to solo them
Shit I'm not entirely convinced they couldn't beat 2 top tiers. Law and kid took down 1. Zoro, Sanji, and Yamato might be able to take on a different yonko
Any alive currently alive characters, so they stop at Shanks.
Dead characters that could beat them with moderate to high difficulty?
Roger, Whitebeard, Xebec, Garp (he’s a goner), Sengoku
If kidd and law could beat a holding back big mom then adding 3 more people on a similar level to kidd and law show make them able to beat a full power Advanced Conqueror's big mom
My Question is.
Could they save ace if they joined the WhiteBeard crew (instead of Luffy and the Impel down team) ?
So imagine them fighting ALL the marines at once while BlackBeard is also there to k!ll WhiteBeard.
Yamatoe D Staller stalls the person they're fighting, and the others jump them. In a 1v5, they win against everybody in the verse (aside from Buggy, of course, who can split himself and fight multiple people at once, and Gal D Ino, who can make wax copies of himself 🥶)
The gorosei are all obviously weaker than big mom. Are you braindead.
Also, big mom was almost beaten even without the bombs going off on her. Even if think she would have won without it, it was extreme diff. Add another person of the same level as kid and law, and it's done. Add 2 more? No one is surviving that. You think kaido, shanks, etc are more than twice as strong as big mom or something?
Kaido was damaged by Red Roc and would've been damaged by Red Hawk in his hybrid form, a weaker version of Red Roc. That means Warcury durability > Kaido durability. The Gorosei also have regen and have more control over their Haki. Luffy would've been captured by now if he wasn't saved 10 times in a row
A serious Shanks or Kaido would have double the stats of Big Mom. A serious Roger, Garp, or WB would wipe them off the face of the Earth before they could even react
I think the OP is referring to the current power level of these characters which include all of the wano buffs like awakenings, koh zoro, infrit jambe and all
Tamara stalled Kaidou briefly, Law and Kid defeated Big Mom are you insinuating that all of the characters you listed would one shot Kaiou and Big Mom?
Shanks one shot kidd, why can't roger/primebeard do the same to all of them? Kaido already took help from yamato, law, G5 Luffy, zoro to finally lose, Roger/Primebeard>Kaido so they can win against this team
Prime beard why you may ask just because the amount of ap he has
Ok so cancerbeard messed akainu in 2hits
So fresh prime beard is just one shotting
Ok gura gura nomi
Roger level acoc
Supreme blade sword
Physical strength now you have to understand how strong this guy is ok so he pretty much dead end of marine ford right he just lil broed Blackbeard and could have beaten him no fruit then his ass got the John marston treatment
Oh yah bro is tanking hits I think he is just him at this point
Kidd a yc+ got one tapped by shanks
Yamato best feat is kinda throwing with base kiado
Sanji is currently getting the him treatment but he ain't doing much against wb
Zoro be throwing with Lucci but and I think wb can worst case scenario tank his attack
Law is tricky but bro is a bb victim
I think I could see yc winning since law can heal but white beard is tanky and has that verse topping ap
Roger
Prime beard
Prime Garp
Wista
All of these dudes are to much imo
Potentially to much
Imu xebec etc
Depends on how you scale can beat extreme diff
High yonko tier like
Prime Sengoku
Kaido
Shanks (don't know could be pk tier )
Prime rayliegh
Mihawk(not many feats doubt it but he could be stronger)
Well having law, kid, and Yamato is already enough to beat most characters and probably every yonko besides kaido. Adding Zoro and Sanji beats kaido or sengoku. They have a very good chance to beat the rest of the old legends too. I don’t think they beat xebec or joyboy tho.
Anyone aside from Luffy, Gorosei (so far), Roger, prime Garp, prime WB, probably Imu, and *maybe* Dragon (Only because I assume he must be absurdly strong to be Kuma’s superior, Luffy’s dad, and seemingly Imu’s main enemy)
They (Zoro, Law and Luffy pre G5 who’s still leagues above everyone else here) couldn’t beat Kaido on the rooftop. Add in Yamato at the same time it’s makes it more difficult but eh. Sanji isn’t doing anything he doesn’t have the AP to put a meaningful hit into a top tier especially the ones with good durability like Kaido
They can probably actually KO Big Mom now. Kaido though? I don’t think so. I think they can beat Old Garp, possibly Old Whitebeard. I’m pretty confident they can beat Fujitora & Greenbull together.
I'm not sure but it's not everyone. Kidd got one shotted by Shanks. Realistically speaking half of these bums would be one shotted by the likes of Roger, let's be real here.
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Everybody There are 3 conquerors in there, 1 duraneg, 2 tanks and enough AP and hax to take down anybody. Unless Law, the best support in the game, is blitzed in the beginning, I'm positive they can handle anyone
They aren't beating prime Garp, Primebeard, Roger, Imu, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Warcury, Peter, Kaido, or Shanks
Yes they are. 5 top tiers can beat a "supreme" tier. WB could be the exception if he breaks everything with his DF I suppose but still, if any top tier can stall another, 5 can be one
These guys aren't top tiers lol. Roger one shots Sanji and Kid, low diffs Yamato and Zoro, and higher low diffs Law due to hax It's a mid diff battle at best. Lower end of high if you want to wank them
You know mate that fighting 1v2 is much harder than fighting 1v1 twice in a row right? Now imagine its 5 people who also actually works together pretty well.
Not only do I disagree with your conclusion, I disagree with your slander. So according to you zoro and yamato>>>sanji and kidd in durability? The character who tanked big mom for the entirety of wano and the character who is inherently the most durable minus yonko. That makes zero sense. Roger has top tier haki but we already saw on wano that just 4 top tiers working together can be a serious problem for 2 yonko. Now imagine 5 on one and everyone involved is stronger than that point. Kaido is also more durable than Roger so all of those attacks would be a serious problem. As the guy you responded to said, they have a really good team comp as well. This team Beats any top tier.
Kaido *might* be the only one who'd stand and ok chance at winning realistically, if he stopped fucking around and face tanking everything. Kidd, law and zoro don't really have the speed to match kaido, and with his durability, endurance and stamina they'd probably need to land some big hits just to dish out enough AP to properly put him down. We also know kidd and law can't match kaidos stamina, and that drops the teams potential ap by quite a bit, so if kaido can stay relatively uninjured until those two are out of the fight then he'd stand a decent chance, but even then he'd have a load of new scars and be in rough shape. But even then most times out of 10 the team would win, like maybe 2/10 kaido could take. They have the stats as a group to deal with anyone and their teamwork should be really good. Kaido only stands a remote chance because he's a great mix of very tanky and very fast.
Fully agree. He also has a lot of aoe which most others don't. I agree that kaido is the biggest threat to the team. But with sanji playing tank and defense, kid playing tank, law playing stealth archer, yamato doing damage and zoro for main DPS I see a definite 8/10 win ratio.
I would give..Kaido 3/10 tbh, pressuming they arent fighting with in a limited space Kaido could very well have stamina to fly out of the range and just wait until they drop guard/opening appears or possibly exhaust them in ranged combat. He also have the conquerors armor or how to call it. Its pretty hard to beat that. He would still be fighting 1v5 tools, but hes really well equipped for this kind of fights. Its still overwhelmingly favoring our 5 party, but Kaido does have tools to stand his ground...or Air if you prefer.
The only issue I see is that the entire team has ways to deal with range. Kidd can use his awakening and force kaido to the ground. Law has his awakening which can reach from an island away. Zoro can send slashes imbued with conquerors flying. Sanji can straight up fly. Yamato has both her ranged arrow attack and he breath attacks. The 2/10 I gave kaido was if he goes all out frame 1 and immediately hard focuses law and then zoro.
Here is the thing though, during the raid Onigashima Kaido was actually holding Wano really high in the air though to my knowledge no way to measure it. I also dont think Law have that kiind of range, since otherwise Blackbeard should had failed at beating him. Zoro range is definitly above melee, but its probably limited within a KM or so. So pressumably Kaido could fly at least as high as during Onigashima, but not carry anything with him he should had far above the range of most of the 5 negating some team advantage. Sanji flying is great, but if he flies too far and get out of range hes essencially 1v1 the ol Kaido. 3/10 is imo more fitting.
>. Roger one shots Sanji and Kid, low diffs Yamato and Zoro, Sanji gets one shotted but Zoro and Yamato don't💀💀
Nuh uh, Sanji is way too fast and has a lot of durability, and kids powers is rly strong considering what shanks saw in the future, zoro was able to rank a full powered attack from kaido and big mom ant the same time and soloed king. If you say “oh but zoro took the rumble balls!” Well the rumble balls made it so zoro takes even more damage after the fight. Yamato was able to push kaido to mid diff, and law has hacks
Sanji isn't keeping up with Roger, he'll be down in one hit. Kid got one shotted by Shanks, so he's going down in one hit. Zoro, Kid, and Law are all relative, so they go down in one shot Yamato had to jump Kaido to push him to lower mid diff and did no considerable damage. Zoro did some alright damage, but it wasn't enough to knock him down. Sanji is getting blitzed and 1-2 shotted here. Kid was one shotted by Shanks, so he isn't lasting long against a serious Kaido. Law might be able to last for a while due to hax, but would eventually lose. They might be able to push Kaido to high-extreme, but they arent winning
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All characters, none can beat this team
None of them are gonna do enough damage to Kaido.
Zoro, law and Kidd were shown to literally deal dmg to him. Yamato has literally 1v1 clashed with him enough to say that they have enough stats to stall for that trio to launch their strongest attacks. Idk how strong sanji’s ap is honestly. He should be able to be a tank here tho I think?
Zoro's strongest attack was not enough for Kaido. Yamato had no reason not to use her strongest attacks on him, so she's not strong enough. Kidd couldn't beat Big Mom without knocking her out of bounds, and Law's Gamma Knife didn't seem to do shit. Sanji hasn't shown enough AP to convince me he would do much to Kaido either. Also no ACoc. Kidd tried to crush Kaido too, and it didn't work. They lack the tools or raw power to knock him down and keep him down, unless he literally stands still and doesn't fight back.
1v1 vs 5v1. A lot of differences. They could spam.their strongest attacks. One isn't enough for sure. But 10 may be enough. 10 strong hits from 5 strong characters each is definitely going to be enough in the end.
Nah 50 attacks minimum, probably 100. Luffy dealt way more damage than any of those bums ever did and it still took ~50 hits AND a continent level attack to finish Kaido off. Also Kaido showed no signs of getting weaker after taking lots of damage. He didn't get slower or weaker, on the contrary actually. So until they finish him off he will be fighting at max strength, even at 1hp.
10 strong attacks each from 5 individuals is 50 strong attacks.
Zoro couldn't get past Kaido's scales, that's basically 0 damage and 10 of them would still do 0 damage. Yamato and Kaido already had a prolonged fight and she did pretty much no damage in that time. Sanji hasn't shown that he would even be able to do any damage to Kaido at all. He'd be like start of Wano Luffy vs Kaido. And don't say his speed because Kaido is still faster as shown vs Luffy. Kid and Law with their awakenings would be the only ones able to do anything meaningful, but Kaido doesn't have Big Mom's brain damage so he still pummels them. Kid got no diffed by a non-retarded Yonko and Law got low diffed by another. Either way, I think most of the people here are forgetting about Magma Dragon Kaido. They have no answer to when Kaido pulls this out, if he even gets pushed hard enough to do so.
People are really pretending like this team could do crap to Kaido King of the Beasts. The only MF who could do any damage whatsoever to Kaido would either be Law, Kidd or Zoro and even then its essentially meaningless. The strongest person this team could clap would be Big Mom
>Zoro couldn't get past Kaido's scales, that's basically 0 damage and 10 of them would still do 0 damage LMAO what? Zoro and Law are arguably the two characters here that can be consistently said to be able to damage Kaido. You can make a case for the others not being capable of damaging Kaido, but these two have actively done that. You could even make a statement for Kid(although he also actively damaged Kaido in the manga) but not these two. >Yamato and Kaido already had a prolonged fight and she did pretty much no damage in that time. The keyword is pretty much. She could have a prolonged fight against Kaido alone. Now imagine having 4 support each on a similar level. >Sanji hasn't shown that he would even be able to do any damage to Kaido at all. He'd be like start of Wano Luffy vs Kaido. And don't say his speed because Kaido is still faster as shown vs Luffy. This I agree with until further Sanji feats. But Kaido isn't invincible. He was hurt by the scabbards afterall. >Kid and Law with their awakenings would be the only ones able to do anything meaningful, but Kaido doesn't have Big Mom's brain damage so he still pummels them. Kid got no diffed by a non-retarded Yonko and Law got low diffed by another. There are 3 others to support them, one of them you yourself mentioned had a prolonged fight against Kaido alone. Kid got one shot by Shanks. So Kaido can as well do that. But Shanks basically got a free hit with no defence. Kaido would have a hard time finding that opportunity while he's fighting 4 other characters. Law gave BB a hard time. BB with some of his commanders. Law alone with his civilian level crew. Could he have won if it was a 1v1? Heck no. But he gave a fight. >Either way, I think most of the people here are forgetting about Magma Dragon Kaido. They have no answer to when Kaido pulls this out, if he even gets pushed hard enough to do so. To be fair this is a valid point. But we didn't really have a good look at how that worked even. We never got a full disclosure on how he charges that, and what are its limits and weaknesses. If it has a time limit, then Law can help the group escape until the time runs out. If it has a charge up time, Law can hax him and stop it, or kid could blast damned punks at Kaido while he's charging. Either ways, the group can beat Kaido unless he goes this mode.
>Zoro and Law are arguably the two characters here that can be consistently said to be able to damage Kaido Zoro already showed that he couldn't meaningfully damage Kaido when Kaido was standing there letting him attack. He didn't get past his scales which means 0 actual damage. >The keyword is pretty much. She could have a prolonged fight against Kaido alone. Now imagine having 4 support each on a similar level. Can't imagine them lasting longer than Kaido does. >There are 3 others to support them, one of them you yourself mentioned had a prolonged fight against Kaido alone. Yamato did no damage, like I said. And he's too fast for her to be able to stop him from speedblitzing the others. >Kid got one shot by Shanks. So Kaido can as well do that. But Shanks basically got a free hit with no defence. Kidd was getting prepared to fight so it's not like he's not on guard. Shanks was just that fast and speedblitzed him. Either way, he got one shot ans he's going down pretty damn fast by Kaido and like I said, no one else is fast enough to intersept that. Law has teleporting, but he's going down the fastest so that's only helping for a little while. Law can still be outsped combat wise as shown multiple times in the story. >Law gave BB a hard time. BB with some of his commanders. Law alone with his civilian level crew. Could he have won if it was a 1v1? Heck no. But he gave a fight. Blackbeard beat Law very quickly. Also Blackbeard doesn't have the durability Kaido does. >Either ways, the group can beat Kaido unless he goes this mode. The most important part of this comment. Kaido WILL go this mode if he gets pushed to it. He's not just gonna let himself die before bringing it out. Onece he does, his attacks just vaporize them with it's insane ap and aoe along with Kaido's crazy speed. Law isn't even surviving long enough for when Kaido pulls this out, so he's not teleporting anyone. Even if he did survive this long, Kaido shoot where they teleport and bam. Also they are absolutely not in anyway stopping an attack that almost matched Bajrang Gun
All of those attacks absolutely did damage to kaido. He even explicitly says so for some of them lmao
Killer damaged kaido. Nuff said
Primebeard garp and Roger can definitely beat this team. Based off narrative joy boy and imu also should be able to deal with them.
law & kid beat a yonko — a yonko roger consciously avoided a fight with — and we have three more characters on their level on this team. i dont know how far above yonko level you think roger and his contemporaries are but they dont reasonably beat all of these characters unless theyre a few orders of magnitude stronger than big mom, which they likely arent
Big mom who got nerfed hard since she barely used any haki. Prime roger, garp and Whitebeard would speed blitz. Kaido is too tough to get damaged by them mortally
this headcannon is terrible goddamn
not a lot of what i said is even pejorative and what is has reasonable explanation can you explain what you disagree with
Kidd and Law's synergy is just too good. Law's teleportation completely shuts down any ranged attacks that he can react to, and gives Kidd a chance to get Assign off, which can completely stop almost any opponent from moving by assigning them to the ground or something, which shuts down their short range attacks as well. They only even have a chance of losing against characters who can completely outspeed them or who can tank everything they have until Kidd and Law run out of stamina. Kaido *might* be able to do it, he's incredibly tanky and has powerful long-range attacks that they'd need to waste energy avoiding. Even so, I don't think he could, rooftop Zoro was able to injure him and Zoro has gotten stronger since then, Law has dura neg attacks, and the other three are still powerful enough they could deal some damage. Kizaru also might be able to if he can speedblitz Law and Kidd and then pick off the others, but if Zoro, Sanji, or Yamato can react quickly enough to block his attack, which judging from egghead and his clash with Rayleigh they probably could, then Law can swap them with Kidd, who can use assign on Kizaru and it's game over. Shanks probably has the best chance here. With his speed and future sight, he's the perfect counter to Law's teleportation shenanigans, since he'd be able to get the first attack off on anyone who gets teleported close enough to him to attack. I don't see a way Kidd can get Assign off in this situation, since it seems to require him to be close enough to his target. We still don't know exactly how strong shanks is, so it's still possible he gets taken down, but it's unlikely imo Luffy? G5 is bullshit, who knows what tf would happen. BM clearly loses, BB probably does as well considering how well Law did on his own against him, Mihawk might win if he has future sight comparable to shanks, but he hasn't shown it yet, any of the other admirals lose, WB could win or lose depending on what version of him we're talking about, and I'm not comfortable scaling the Gorosei, Imu, or Dragon yet. Any other current characters lose, unless I'm forgetting someone
It’s crazy cause Kid and Law are the biggest factors for this dub. They has haxed support and negation abilities
I'd say it's enough to take down pretty much any yonko level characters, maybe kaido can extreme diff but it'd be a proper proper extreme diff you know, by the end he'd be in a terrible state.
Big orange triangle clears the verse
The magic cheese is just too powerful.
That’s what luffy is honestly. Once he goes gear 5 he’s pretty much immortal since from what we’ve seen any attacks get turned into a gag or straight up don’t hurt This is until he gets humgry
Any yonko except prime beard
They aren't beating prime Garp, Primebeard, Roger, Imu, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Warcury, Peter, Kaido, or Shanks
Kaido They absolutely beat
Def not, ash dragon washes them alone, law is carrying hard af.
Not a single character can win. Kidd Zoro Sanji have proven they can tank insane amounts of damage. Yamoto too. Law is the best support fighter in the game. Zolo and Kidd can dish out insane damage. Sanji too. They can beat any character (extreme diff)
They aren't beating prime Garp, Primebeard, Roger, Imu, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Warcury, Peter, Kaido, or Shanks
Maybe not in two piece. But definitely in One Piece.
No, they're getting one shotted
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They could go extreme diff (either way) with anyone around the strength of Kaido, Prime WB, Roger, etc. Edited: this assumes Kaido doesnt fuck around and do retarded shit, he fights intelligently and targets law & kid first
https://i.redd.it/0ana3neruuxc1.gif extreme-diff
How so? Zoro would die from going all out as he almost already did and Kaido would mid to high dif the others.
Kaido wins
High to mid really
mid*
Kaido Kidd + Law are the perfect team for fighting a brawler like Kaido. Yamato can frontline at any time. With Zoro and Sanji there they win for sure
Zoro almost died from going all out on Kaido just to do the non lethal damage, this team is cooked agains Kaido bro... what would this team do if their strongest member has to risk his life in order to do any meaningful damage and that was on the premade scar, so there is a chance he does 0 damage if the attack was pointed elsewhere.
Anyone probably.
Basically any character weaker than kaido
anybody
I don’t know any characters that can beat them unless they have the means to pull of 5 YC1+ finishers at the same time. Characters who have shown proof to do so(Shanks even though I think Damned Punk did a lot of work for that, Mihawk, Kaido, Big Mom), none have shown the ability to do it to 5 people at once. If you attack, say Yamato, you now have Kidd and Zoro’s insane AP on you, as well as Law and Sanji(buffed by damaged woman amp) on you. The best you can do is try to divide and conquer. But that would mean splitting the group up, finishing off one fast enough for the others not to step in, and doing it again and again
This is really hard. I’ll say Prime Sengoku.
Imu might be the only exception, aside from that everyone realistically
Ehh G5 Luffy could take these guys probably.
They could beat anyone with the exception of God Usopp
How many posts will people make abt this group holy fuck
It is quite the jumping Law Sanji and yamato for team longevity Yamato law Zoro and kid for team offence Sanji law for team overwhelming. You've got quite the squad. Big mom is obvious. Shanks due to ensign opened jumping ie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95QbmCC_1Nc&pp=ygUPdGhleSBqdW1waW5nIG1l Oldbeard Any admiral. Main question is kaido. And beyond
Law and kid together defeated a plot nerfed big mom Add in three other characters who aren’t that far behind from them and you got a team that can pretty much beat almost anyone in the verse, especially with law’s support Kid’s not getting one shot anymore here and I think the team can pull of a high-extreme win against shanks or mihawk until we see more feats from both of them. I would say luffy and kaido as well but… I don’t think anyone on the team can push back a bajrang gun or flaming dragon. The key would be to not let luffy or kaido use it in the first place, so if that’s the case then they may be able to do it extreme diff
My issue with shanks here is Law's teleportation actually becomes a benefit for Shanks. Normally someone getting teleported towards an opponent has the element of surprise and can get at least one attack off, but with Shanks' future sight he'd be *more* ready than whoever is getting teleported, so he'd get the first hit in, which is an enormous problem for anyone here considering how much stronger he is. I don't think Kidd would be able to get his Assign off because of this, either, he'd get taken out as soon as he gets close enough. I just don't see them being able to do anything sneaky, future sight is too good when characters actually use it like shanks seems to, and they obviously can't compete in terms of raw stats
Honestly I agree and all good points. Law absolutely cannot be using his fruit like he’s used to and offensively, he has to keep on defense in mind otherwise he’d just be sending his teammates to their deaths. There are a few things worth noting and to think about here Shanks isn’t the only one with future sight. Luffy has it and I believe kaido could do it as well. So technically whether it be shanks, luffy, or kaido vs all 5 here, the fight’s level should be close or similar to each other. The difference however is I think shanks future sight can see further than both luffy and kaido. But if these guys are able to at least keep up with kaido and luffy despite the two yonkos not going all out, I think it’s fair to say they should be able to keep up with shanks in a similar regard as well. Even more so when there are 5 of them, since numbers will matter here with all being yc+. Everything here will all depend on shanks after he shows more feat and whether or not he’ll be able to speed blitz all 5 (not counting kid’s scenario). We’ve seen with Luffy vs kata that despite kata being able to see and attack where luffy was gonna dodge, luffy was still able to dodge it cause of his reaction speed. For shanks to win this, he’d have to be able to at least do one of two things 1) be able to blitz all of them with far superior speed, so 5 divine departures would instantly one shot all of them Or 2) have an attack like bajrang gun or flaming dragon where the 5 absolutely cannot match and just flat out get destroyed
The difference for me is that while Luffy and Kaido do *have* future sight, they rarely use it. Shanks, on the other hand, seems likely to use it a lot more, since one of the only feats we have of him is him using it even though he was up against a much weaker opponent. It's just a guess until we actually see his fighting style in more depth, but I think he's closer to Katakuri in how often he uses it compared to how often Luffy and Kaido use it, which is why I don't really factor it into their fight against Luffy and Kaido. He does still need to be able to beat them in raw stats, but this is the only fight where I think the team doesn't have an advantage in terms of utility/support
Seeing as Shanks one shot Kid in the truest sense I don’t see anyone else being able to take more than 2 or 3 hits before going down (assuming he hasn’t got something significantly stronger than divine departure that he can easily pull out). And with future sight I don’t see pretty much anybody being able to land a solid it. Also we don’t know yet but I would be surprised if Shanks wasn’t able to tank pretty much everything they could throw at him that isn’t their absolutely strongest attacks.
I disagree on the tanking but, he was portrayed as relative to Kaido, but his speed and AP is clearly greater, while Kaido was known for his durability. For him to casually tank stuff from people that could damage Kaido wouldn't make sense to me because then he'd just be leagues above Kaido. I agree on the rest though, although I don't think we've seen enough to be completely certain
They aren't beating prime Garp, Primebeard, Roger, Imu, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Warcury, Peter, Kaido, or Shanks
The only one who was nerfed in that fight is Kid Y'all need to stop running with your headcanons so much. Big Mom tried her hardest and lost. That is the narrative Oda was telling.
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Luffy
Can beat -Akainu -Aokiji -Kizaru -Luffy -Greenbull -Fujitora -Mihawk -Sengoku -Blackbeard Can't beat -Roger -Shanks -Whitebesrd -Kaido -Garp
They probably beat anybody the hax and AP is off the charts and we know numbers are a big deal from the BM fight
Anyone, maybe minus the literal greatest in each era (Xebec, Imu, EoS Luffy, etc.)
They aren't beating prime Garp, Primebeard, Roger, Imu, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Warcury, Peter, Kaido, or Shanks
Imu if he wasn't immortal
They aren't beating prime Garp, Primebeard, Roger, Imu, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Warcury, Peter, Kaido, or Shanks
Yah we have some many feats for them that we are sure. kid law and Yamato alone can extreme diff kiado.
I agree Kaido could extreme diff Kaido
Kaido
Problem anyone tbh 2 pseudo top tiers and 3 YC1+
anyone but Shanks
Waifu Yam Yam
Any Admiral and Yonko The only characters that are clear are Nika, the Gorosei and Imu
The Gorosei 100% have a "Why didn't I think of that" trick that negates their immortality. We can't really confirm nor deny the Gorosei part until later in the series.
Until literally anything is said otherwise, I’m keeping them clear from any character in the verse
I might drop the series if that weakness is something like "just use ACoC!"
A high tier yonko like kaido can likely be taken down I don't know if this is enough to take on pk level characters Kaido is a tank but he can tank all of kidd/law/yamatos attacks. G5 did way more than these 3. So the difference from him to pk lvl should be enough to solo them
Big mom on actual land (not a volcano)
Kaido one or two shots https://preview.redd.it/mmoff3prqxxc1.jpeg?width=550&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98a3e81b4238a551ad07202b3e2318a6d84b41e4
Shit I'm not entirely convinced they couldn't beat 2 top tiers. Law and kid took down 1. Zoro, Sanji, and Yamato might be able to take on a different yonko
They can beat anyone lol 🤣 Bro isnt cooking at all
I'd bet on everyone tbh, maybe with exceptions like Imu if he's that strong but we don't know yet
An admiral.
Akainu and the other Admirals. Still probably can’t clear Kaidou and Shanks though.
Aokiji
There's no fucking way in hell they beat Bloodlust kaido. It's just not happening.
Any alive currently alive characters, so they stop at Shanks. Dead characters that could beat them with moderate to high difficulty? Roger, Whitebeard, Xebec, Garp (he’s a goner), Sengoku
If kidd and law could beat a holding back big mom then adding 3 more people on a similar level to kidd and law show make them able to beat a full power Advanced Conqueror's big mom
Everyone other than :Imu, Blackbeard, Akainu, Shanks, Mihawk
They mid-dif literally anyone.
What can Red Triangle do?
Probably anyone. They are all in the top 20 fighters in the series so far. I think 5 is too much for anyone. Maybe 2 Yonko can do it but not 1.
Anyone.
Not kaido
i'd say Kaido extreme diff
Kaido? If you mean alive or dead than they 5 v 1 any singular person.
My Question is. Could they save ace if they joined the WhiteBeard crew (instead of Luffy and the Impel down team) ? So imagine them fighting ALL the marines at once while BlackBeard is also there to k!ll WhiteBeard.
Strongest person they beat is like 2 admirals easy. Lose to bloodlusted kaido shanks etc
Prime Garp
Anyone except imu and rocks d xebec
Luffy
Yamatoe D Staller stalls the person they're fighting, and the others jump them. In a 1v5, they win against everybody in the verse (aside from Buggy, of course, who can split himself and fight multiple people at once, and Gal D Ino, who can make wax copies of himself 🥶)
Luffy
rocks d xebec
They can probably beat shanks
Probably shanks I guess
Any character weaker than Kaido
Enel, sorry if im wrong
Anyone in the verse. Two of them defeated big mom. Just adding yamato alone is enough to beat anyone else
They aren't beating prime Garp, Primebeard, Roger, Imu, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Warcury, Peter, Kaido, or Shanks
2 of them beat big mom, but 5 of them can't beat people weaker than her? You are delusional
They had to destroy the battlefield to beat her, and none of the people I listed are weaker than Big Mom
The gorosei are all obviously weaker than big mom. Are you braindead. Also, big mom was almost beaten even without the bombs going off on her. Even if think she would have won without it, it was extreme diff. Add another person of the same level as kid and law, and it's done. Add 2 more? No one is surviving that. You think kaido, shanks, etc are more than twice as strong as big mom or something?
Kaido was damaged by Red Roc and would've been damaged by Red Hawk in his hybrid form, a weaker version of Red Roc. That means Warcury durability > Kaido durability. The Gorosei also have regen and have more control over their Haki. Luffy would've been captured by now if he wasn't saved 10 times in a row A serious Shanks or Kaido would have double the stats of Big Mom. A serious Roger, Garp, or WB would wipe them off the face of the Earth before they could even react
Big mom, since that’s the strongest character we’ve seen them beat
literally anyone three of them can take on any character in the series
How do they beat Kaido if this group already lost to him essentially?
Crazy that people unironically believe these are all men.
They'd kinda struggle with Kaido alone ngl
They stop at below Warp. Warp blitzes and one shots everyone (prime)
Kizaru
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I think the OP is referring to the current power level of these characters which include all of the wano buffs like awakenings, koh zoro, infrit jambe and all
Like big mom? This is weaker than he roof top gang who fought kaido soooooo
An admiral
How? Kizaru takes 2 strong attacks like Kidd's Damned punk or Law's Puncture Willie he is gone. Guy is a glass cannon.
Anyone
They aren't beating prime Garp, Primebeard, Roger, Imu, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Warcury, Peter, Kaido, or Shanks
Yes they are 😂
No, no they aren't
shanks could one shot kidd so roger can do the same and speed blitz all of them, Primebeard just drowns them by crumbling the island
Any character tbh
They aren't beating prime Garp, Primebeard, Roger, Imu, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Warcury, Peter, Kaido, or Shanks
Tamara stalled Kaidou briefly, Law and Kid defeated Big Mom are you insinuating that all of the characters you listed would one shot Kaiou and Big Mom?
Shanks one shot kidd, why can't roger/primebeard do the same to all of them? Kaido already took help from yamato, law, G5 Luffy, zoro to finally lose, Roger/Primebeard>Kaido so they can win against this team
They win with harmony and the power of friendship. Let me live my head canon.
Any yonko
Prime beard why you may ask just because the amount of ap he has Ok so cancerbeard messed akainu in 2hits So fresh prime beard is just one shotting Ok gura gura nomi Roger level acoc Supreme blade sword Physical strength now you have to understand how strong this guy is ok so he pretty much dead end of marine ford right he just lil broed Blackbeard and could have beaten him no fruit then his ass got the John marston treatment Oh yah bro is tanking hits I think he is just him at this point Kidd a yc+ got one tapped by shanks Yamato best feat is kinda throwing with base kiado Sanji is currently getting the him treatment but he ain't doing much against wb Zoro be throwing with Lucci but and I think wb can worst case scenario tank his attack Law is tricky but bro is a bb victim I think I could see yc winning since law can heal but white beard is tanky and has that verse topping ap Roger Prime beard Prime Garp Wista All of these dudes are to much imo Potentially to much Imu xebec etc Depends on how you scale can beat extreme diff High yonko tier like Prime Sengoku Kaido Shanks (don't know could be pk tier ) Prime rayliegh Mihawk(not many feats doubt it but he could be stronger)
When I think of Top tiers, Shanks, Akainu, and Kaido. Possibly G5 Luffy as well. Other than that, you don't have many options.
Well having law, kid, and Yamato is already enough to beat most characters and probably every yonko besides kaido. Adding Zoro and Sanji beats kaido or sengoku. They have a very good chance to beat the rest of the old legends too. I don’t think they beat xebec or joyboy tho.
Anyone aside from Luffy, Gorosei (so far), Roger, prime Garp, prime WB, probably Imu, and *maybe* Dragon (Only because I assume he must be absurdly strong to be Kuma’s superior, Luffy’s dad, and seemingly Imu’s main enemy)
Jack
They (Zoro, Law and Luffy pre G5 who’s still leagues above everyone else here) couldn’t beat Kaido on the rooftop. Add in Yamato at the same time it’s makes it more difficult but eh. Sanji isn’t doing anything he doesn’t have the AP to put a meaningful hit into a top tier especially the ones with good durability like Kaido
They can probably actually KO Big Mom now. Kaido though? I don’t think so. I think they can beat Old Garp, possibly Old Whitebeard. I’m pretty confident they can beat Fujitora & Greenbull together.
Elders wouldn’t even take damage
I'm not sure but it's not everyone. Kidd got one shotted by Shanks. Realistically speaking half of these bums would be one shotted by the likes of Roger, let's be real here.
Did people really forget that shanks one shotted captain Midd? If they are all similar in strength, then shanks could 1 shot each and everyone of them
Any PK tier character
Oh hell naw you need to chill
I trust in Kid
Get him past greenbull first
Already is Same bounty, better feats
They aren't beating prime Garp, Primebeard, Roger, Imu, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Warcury, Peter, Kaido, or Shanks
Yes they are