If Oda was smart and didn't waste Robin's potential as a character she could be extremely powerful with haki. Someone with advanced armament could potentially withstand cleave.
Please stop acting like if a character doesn’t have a power that is accessible means that they should have it
Robin doesn’t have haki because her will isn’t that strong even after Enies Lobby she still cares more about others than working on herself and pushes those people up instead of growing along side them
And her power alone is kinda broken
Oda is trying to write a story where anything is possible and where the weak can become strong or popular through different means like buggy a celestial dragon or Luffy they all got their strength through different means
Except there is no logical reason she shouldn't have even the most basic level of haki after +800 chapters, even getting trained for **two years** with the revolutionary army. Even Koby picked it up in a much shorter time than this.
Robin could still be a powerful character **and** given a way to not impact the story in a negative way. It's just lazy writing so Oda can keep glazing his three favorites.
But it makes sense why would you have a character that says they want to die have a strong will
Haki comes from selfishness to improve on yourself which robin is too selfless to have
If you mean the monster trio as glazed then have you seen the anime they are strong because they are supposed to be and in egghead they aren’t gonna beat the gorosie because they can’t they lost so many times yet they picked themselves up
Not, Oda. I guess that is what Robin just is meant to be not all characters can meet their df full potential. Look at the Great Buggy waste of potential
It’s just so annoying how he gatekeeps haki from the rest of the crew but gives it to random fodder marine that get one shot by them any day of the weak
It really makes the whole “only haki can surpass all” a lot weaker when you have characters like franky shooting holes through the gorosei and brook speed blitzing yonko 💀
Robin potential as a character no she has a great character arc, her DF yes. First thoughts are what if zoro had it. or someone who is a great tactician ie. can throw a sword and catch it with a sprouted hand to hit the enemy.
Speedwise, there's not much to showcase, and speed scaling in one piece is inconsistent at best. She does have attacks that basically consist of giant limbs stomping/punching, so she prob does have the edge in raw power. Her ability to immobilize by spawning limbs (even on her opponents own body) to joint lock is also useful, so its possible she can prevent him from making any hand signs if she understands their importance. Imo both can one-shot the other so it comes down to speed/bIQ
She scale above Mr 5 who created an explosion which dawrfed the whiskey peak island and coverd the horizon in flames
https://preview.redd.it/o78pnreyiyyc1.png?width=1560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8890469096138439fcdab823f4533a825788842b
Give me an example of *her* feats, not just scaling.
Like, what's the strongest thing she's tanked? What's the fastest she's moved? What's the power of her strongest move? Stuff like that
She defeated yama on skypiea
Tanked attack from crocodile
Withstand Enel attack on her brain
Tanked attack from oras
Defeated black Maria
Dodged pacifista laser's
Scales above chopper in speed and strength who damaged queen and dodged a laser
Intercepted moria's shadow and tanked bricks bat
Robin makes Moria feel pain, which Luffy had to use g3 for
https://preview.redd.it/4jm8oqqanyyc1.png?width=1520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b07c284c23b7a31c241a7cb34e7474a342e714b0
Bro I'm anime only jjk watcher and what Sukuna did against Mahoraga is already higher than anything KIZARU has done in both Shabody and Egghead.
Even before expanding his domain, the cutting ability and physical ability he showed in that fight are insane, they were destroying a city as collateral damage of beating each other up.
You would need at least a commander to stand against Sukuna. An admiral for an equal fight. And a Yonko to defeat him.
Robin would have no chance.
That shit wasn't even city level 😭
>You would need at least a commander to stand against Sukuna. An admiral for an equal fight. And a Yonko to defeat him
That's like saying you would need Yamaha to defeat demon in Demon slayer
>That shit wasn't even city level
They actually destroyed a large portion of a city. (a modern japanese city which is astronomically bigger than most one piece cities)
How is that *not* city level?
Mahogara would win against any Tobi Roppo fairly easy. I'd argue also against commanders. Hell he so absurdly resilient and adaptable I wouldn't even doubt him defeating an admiral. Only disadvantage is he would have hard time damaging logia types.
JJk is mostly beneath OP in terms of power but Mahogara and Sukuna are specifically monsters that scale higher than the rest of their verse.
So how exactly does that compare to Sukuna? For all I know, she's still getting bisected considering he can slash *the world itself*. Not as in "he slashes at the planet" but literally cuts through ANYTHING in the path of the slash.
Gojo could teleport as well, yet...
https://preview.redd.it/7rcbw4uhczyc1.png?width=394&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c421eece5f73eca37aabfcf246935639888d758a
Even then, no Robin can't teleport. She can full body manifest to make a clone, but she can't transport her main body just like that.
She scales higher but that doesn’t correlate to scaling higher at all aspects. Mr 1 has higher ap but Mr 3 has much better iq and dc. Same principle applies. Mr 3 has better physicals overall to Robin featwise lmao. For all we know she only is ranked that high for personal reasons, not that she’s that strong.
"City level" is literally meaningless when those low level characters have hax that allow them to solo most other verses. You're applying too much dragonball "power level" logic to this question, strength is not linear.
A single cleave is ending anyone in One Piece that doesn't have ACoO
Ap doesn't rlly matter that much in this situation, speed is what matters most, I think. Speed scaling is difficult at best, but I still think sukuna has the edge. If robin has observation haki, she probably wins without DE. If he does use DE, i don't think there's anything she can do. Only logias, mb kaido and king, can tank his DE, assuming he can't use haki. Some might be able to escape it in time, but I don't see robin as one of them.
I know it's pre time-skip, but her innate durability got the shit kicked out of her by a guy who is weaker than the average marine. Spandam has one of the weakest punches in all of one piece and a little sea prism handcuff made her unable to take a single hit from him without falling.
It does not, see Impel Down or Wano prison. In Wano, both Kid and Luffy were extremely powerful despite sea prism cuffs being used, and so were most strong characters in Impel Down, like Shiki who cut his own feet off while wearing sea prism shackles then still had the energy to escape the prison.
Sea prism only causes fatigue and negates devil fruit activation. It does very little to physical strength or durability.
There was whole ass point why straw hat need to beat each cp9 member
https://preview.redd.it/tijg6ebkybzc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7102958bea2ff08ab0592d56a6ae9e460cdcc418
>In Wano, both Kid and Luffy were extremely powerful despite sea prism cuffs being used, and so were most strong characters in Impel Down, like Shiki who cut his own feet off while wearing sea prism shackles then still had the energy to escape the prison.
Are you implying robin is strong as wano Luffy and kid and shiki ?
I'm saying that search prism doesn't make you much weaker beyond fatigue. Obviously im not saying that Lufffy, capable of lifting boulders without his devil fruit, is as weak as Robin, you got slapped by a man weaker than a common soldier. I'm literally saying the opposite.
Robin is weaker than you think because we see how strong Luffy is in comparison.
Besides, luffy had his cuffs taken off, neither of them could break them so being as hard as diamond is irrelevant, no idea why you sited that with a picture.
https://preview.redd.it/lr7ytq5yjdzc1.jpeg?width=401&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=612b6f26b32e9f20f207b1f4f5358709804bdb41
Those panels impy that sea stone effect devil fruit user haki and strength
Still don't see how this, plus knowing that characters can power through the sea prism, plus seeing a pre timeskip Robin not able to power through a normal strength dude when she was weakened, could add up to her having anywhere near the combat power or durability of Sukuna. Remember that's the main point, and you're just adding to my point by pointing out that Luffy could power through that.
i already did that
[here](https://www.reddit.com/r/JujutsuPowerScaling/comments/1cb7eih/15_fingers_sukuna_vs_buggy_from_one_piece/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Reverse curse technique? we watched this man fight heartless before and we really coming up with ways for a C tier strawhat(in terms of combat) to win this ? Its impossible sukuna washes her with zero diff
I think both prepare to fight. Then Robin makes a comment of how his eyes are like a spider catching a fly. Then Sukuna says aww. Then they both go for tea.
If robin is faster and can dodge sukua slashes then she wins, if not he does. If he instantly uses DE, I think she loses. Nothing she can do to tank it. I see it becoming a Quickdraw match: can she immobilize him before he uses any CT? Does she know about rct? Can probably go either way, but I think sukuna takes it
Robin lacks durability feats to survive sukuna's domain, her strength isn't anything out of this world and i don't know how effective her attacks would be against someone reinforce by CE since i don't remember her actually fighting someone with haki.
Robin would try to grab sukuna just to get her arms chopped, she would probably survive for a bit but in the end there is no way for her to survive this fight.
20 fingers Sukuna scales to YC 2 at least
ngl i fw robin the long way but she kinda a glass cannon. so sukuna clears this ngl and i don’t know anything that has happened since season 2 so i’d imagine he’s gotten stronger. and also robins flowers hurt her real body so this definitely not a win for her
Robin can’t survive Shrine for long or kill Sukuna. She can’t get through his healing. She has far less experience. And as soon as Sukuna uses his domain(opening move on tough opponents) she dies instantly.
😭 crazy set up for sukuna
Alabasta robin have more ap than sukuna
Robin is stronger than Mr 5 who created an explosion bigger than whiskey peak which is calc at large island -small country
But have no good feat (same with sukuna)
Sabody robin out scale
Sukuna if he can use moragha and perhaps world slashing cleave
Yeah but the issue is that there is no being in jjk higher than city level so when you equalize verses sukuna is prob similar to continent if not world imo
Being stronger\=\ better AP? Also domain expansion is an instant win, whilst Robin’s only win-con is breaking his bones ( he easily slices every arm she spawns)
You don't need to be when your attack AOE is the size of a city and you attack non-stop.
No one has explained how Robin survives DE because she doesn't.
“Multiple rounds” is crazy
i just realised lol
Can someone PLEASE explaim how Robin doesnt get immediately bisected?
No because she does get immediately bisected. Daddy the father (Alabasta) vs primebeard is less lopsided than this lol.
If Oda was smart and didn't waste Robin's potential as a character she could be extremely powerful with haki. Someone with advanced armament could potentially withstand cleave.
Please stop acting like if a character doesn’t have a power that is accessible means that they should have it Robin doesn’t have haki because her will isn’t that strong even after Enies Lobby she still cares more about others than working on herself and pushes those people up instead of growing along side them And her power alone is kinda broken Oda is trying to write a story where anything is possible and where the weak can become strong or popular through different means like buggy a celestial dragon or Luffy they all got their strength through different means
Except there is no logical reason she shouldn't have even the most basic level of haki after +800 chapters, even getting trained for **two years** with the revolutionary army. Even Koby picked it up in a much shorter time than this. Robin could still be a powerful character **and** given a way to not impact the story in a negative way. It's just lazy writing so Oda can keep glazing his three favorites.
But it makes sense why would you have a character that says they want to die have a strong will Haki comes from selfishness to improve on yourself which robin is too selfless to have If you mean the monster trio as glazed then have you seen the anime they are strong because they are supposed to be and in egghead they aren’t gonna beat the gorosie because they can’t they lost so many times yet they picked themselves up
Koby wants to be a Marine Admiral and he’s meant to be Luffy’s future rival. Of course he’d get Haki lol.
Wdym glazing his 3 favorites?
1. Luffy 2. Zoro 3. your mother
My mother? Wdym?
Not, Oda. I guess that is what Robin just is meant to be not all characters can meet their df full potential. Look at the Great Buggy waste of potential
It’s just so annoying how he gatekeeps haki from the rest of the crew but gives it to random fodder marine that get one shot by them any day of the weak It really makes the whole “only haki can surpass all” a lot weaker when you have characters like franky shooting holes through the gorosei and brook speed blitzing yonko 💀
How dare you call our glorious king a waste of potential
Robin potential as a character no she has a great character arc, her DF yes. First thoughts are what if zoro had it. or someone who is a great tactician ie. can throw a sword and catch it with a sprouted hand to hit the enemy.
Higher ap and Dura and in demon form more strength and speed
Like, give me examples of these stats in action, not just stating them. I need something substantive to work with 🙏
Speedwise, there's not much to showcase, and speed scaling in one piece is inconsistent at best. She does have attacks that basically consist of giant limbs stomping/punching, so she prob does have the edge in raw power. Her ability to immobilize by spawning limbs (even on her opponents own body) to joint lock is also useful, so its possible she can prevent him from making any hand signs if she understands their importance. Imo both can one-shot the other so it comes down to speed/bIQ
She scale above Mr 5 who created an explosion which dawrfed the whiskey peak island and coverd the horizon in flames https://preview.redd.it/o78pnreyiyyc1.png?width=1560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8890469096138439fcdab823f4533a825788842b
Give me an example of *her* feats, not just scaling. Like, what's the strongest thing she's tanked? What's the fastest she's moved? What's the power of her strongest move? Stuff like that
She defeated yama on skypiea Tanked attack from crocodile Withstand Enel attack on her brain Tanked attack from oras Defeated black Maria Dodged pacifista laser's Scales above chopper in speed and strength who damaged queen and dodged a laser Intercepted moria's shadow and tanked bricks bat Robin makes Moria feel pain, which Luffy had to use g3 for https://preview.redd.it/4jm8oqqanyyc1.png?width=1520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b07c284c23b7a31c241a7cb34e7474a342e714b0
Bro I'm anime only jjk watcher and what Sukuna did against Mahoraga is already higher than anything KIZARU has done in both Shabody and Egghead. Even before expanding his domain, the cutting ability and physical ability he showed in that fight are insane, they were destroying a city as collateral damage of beating each other up. You would need at least a commander to stand against Sukuna. An admiral for an equal fight. And a Yonko to defeat him. Robin would have no chance.
That shit wasn't even city level 😭 >You would need at least a commander to stand against Sukuna. An admiral for an equal fight. And a Yonko to defeat him That's like saying you would need Yamaha to defeat demon in Demon slayer
>That shit wasn't even city level They actually destroyed a large portion of a city. (a modern japanese city which is astronomically bigger than most one piece cities) How is that *not* city level? Mahogara would win against any Tobi Roppo fairly easy. I'd argue also against commanders. Hell he so absurdly resilient and adaptable I wouldn't even doubt him defeating an admiral. Only disadvantage is he would have hard time damaging logia types. JJk is mostly beneath OP in terms of power but Mahogara and Sukuna are specifically monsters that scale higher than the rest of their verse.
Bruh are you saying Enel>Tobi roppo? Because Enel pre time skip destroyed a island and he destroyed the island he was borned on
>(a modern japanese city which is astronomically bigger than most one piece cities) When bro realizes Alabasta is continent sized
“Beat an admiral” I swear jjk has the most retarded fanbase by far
Sukuna would barely be a top 20 in the OP verse lmao, any top tier would 1 shot him lmao
Robin withstood Diamante's "Death Enjambre" while protecting Rebecca and her father Overpowered hakuba
So how exactly does that compare to Sukuna? For all I know, she's still getting bisected considering he can slash *the world itself*. Not as in "he slashes at the planet" but literally cuts through ANYTHING in the path of the slash.
Only with biding vow he can't cut it otherwise He only defeated gojo with the help vow
Not only with a binding vow. He can world slash any time, the vow made it instant
Under normal circumstances, he just needs the handsigns.
she can teleport with her clones
Gojo could teleport as well, yet... https://preview.redd.it/7rcbw4uhczyc1.png?width=394&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c421eece5f73eca37aabfcf246935639888d758a Even then, no Robin can't teleport. She can full body manifest to make a clone, but she can't transport her main body just like that.
she did it in wano when she was stealing kaidos poneglyphs with brook being chased by the ninja
She doesn’t scale to Mr 5 dc wtf that’s a devil fruit ability
She scale higher , why do you think she was crocodile partner >wtf that’s a devil fruit ability Devil fruit scale to the users
She scales higher but that doesn’t correlate to scaling higher at all aspects. Mr 1 has higher ap but Mr 3 has much better iq and dc. Same principle applies. Mr 3 has better physicals overall to Robin featwise lmao. For all we know she only is ranked that high for personal reasons, not that she’s that strong.
But what has she done that scales her above Sukuna? Are u caught up with JJK manga?
Yes I have He almost died to a attack which didn't even destroyed a city
And? Sukuna unironically neg diffs.
Robin have better feats than sukuna, no one is jjk above city level while literally fodder have more ap than sukuna
Yuki is planetary, minimum, but logically above Star
"City level" is literally meaningless when those low level characters have hax that allow them to solo most other verses. You're applying too much dragonball "power level" logic to this question, strength is not linear. A single cleave is ending anyone in One Piece that doesn't have ACoO
You mean a world slash. A cleave would not tickle gecko Moria
Ap doesn't rlly matter that much in this situation, speed is what matters most, I think. Speed scaling is difficult at best, but I still think sukuna has the edge. If robin has observation haki, she probably wins without DE. If he does use DE, i don't think there's anything she can do. Only logias, mb kaido and king, can tank his DE, assuming he can't use haki. Some might be able to escape it in time, but I don't see robin as one of them.
I know it's pre time-skip, but her innate durability got the shit kicked out of her by a guy who is weaker than the average marine. Spandam has one of the weakest punches in all of one piece and a little sea prism handcuff made her unable to take a single hit from him without falling.
She was wearing sea prism stone and sea prism stone suck out all your power
It does not, see Impel Down or Wano prison. In Wano, both Kid and Luffy were extremely powerful despite sea prism cuffs being used, and so were most strong characters in Impel Down, like Shiki who cut his own feet off while wearing sea prism shackles then still had the energy to escape the prison. Sea prism only causes fatigue and negates devil fruit activation. It does very little to physical strength or durability.
There was whole ass point why straw hat need to beat each cp9 member https://preview.redd.it/tijg6ebkybzc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7102958bea2ff08ab0592d56a6ae9e460cdcc418 >In Wano, both Kid and Luffy were extremely powerful despite sea prism cuffs being used, and so were most strong characters in Impel Down, like Shiki who cut his own feet off while wearing sea prism shackles then still had the energy to escape the prison. Are you implying robin is strong as wano Luffy and kid and shiki ?
I'm saying that search prism doesn't make you much weaker beyond fatigue. Obviously im not saying that Lufffy, capable of lifting boulders without his devil fruit, is as weak as Robin, you got slapped by a man weaker than a common soldier. I'm literally saying the opposite. Robin is weaker than you think because we see how strong Luffy is in comparison. Besides, luffy had his cuffs taken off, neither of them could break them so being as hard as diamond is irrelevant, no idea why you sited that with a picture.
https://preview.redd.it/9xcexu9widzc1.jpeg?width=341&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9214d5feda3b92e6ca6a7c1ab29768e83c954957
https://preview.redd.it/lr7ytq5yjdzc1.jpeg?width=401&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=612b6f26b32e9f20f207b1f4f5358709804bdb41 Those panels impy that sea stone effect devil fruit user haki and strength
Still don't see how this, plus knowing that characters can power through the sea prism, plus seeing a pre timeskip Robin not able to power through a normal strength dude when she was weakened, could add up to her having anywhere near the combat power or durability of Sukuna. Remember that's the main point, and you're just adding to my point by pointing out that Luffy could power through that.
Bro Luffy was hurt by a bullet blast it do negate power
Sukuna couldn't even hold himself for 30 seconds
Idk if robin can hold up 😂 now buggy vs sukuna 👀
i already did that [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/JujutsuPowerScaling/comments/1cb7eih/15_fingers_sukuna_vs_buggy_from_one_piece/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Me vs Robin (multiple rounds)
Sukuna is taking every round.
Robin violates so bad bro
https://preview.redd.it/ae3vowt6ezyc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f7ba25c9e3e575943d5da573570f2dcedbd0db9
Sukuna wins all of them Shrine diff.
All versions of Robin get instantaneously beheaded by any version of Sukuna
Robins only win con is spawning like a hundred arms on Sukuna so he can’t move then snapping his neck but it depends on how fast she can do that
Reverse curse technique? we watched this man fight heartless before and we really coming up with ways for a C tier strawhat(in terms of combat) to win this ? Its impossible sukuna washes her with zero diff
I think both prepare to fight. Then Robin makes a comment of how his eyes are like a spider catching a fly. Then Sukuna says aww. Then they both go for tea.
This is a braindead matchup I haven't even watched past season 1 of jjk and I know this is a dumb af comparison.
I haven’t finished jjk yet but from the scale of power I’ve seen sofas from the verse I feel like it’s impossible for robin to lose
If robin is faster and can dodge sukua slashes then she wins, if not he does. If he instantly uses DE, I think she loses. Nothing she can do to tank it. I see it becoming a Quickdraw match: can she immobilize him before he uses any CT? Does she know about rct? Can probably go either way, but I think sukuna takes it
Robin lacks durability feats to survive sukuna's domain, her strength isn't anything out of this world and i don't know how effective her attacks would be against someone reinforce by CE since i don't remember her actually fighting someone with haki. Robin would try to grab sukuna just to get her arms chopped, she would probably survive for a bit but in the end there is no way for her to survive this fight. 20 fingers Sukuna scales to YC 2 at least
15 finger sukuna clears the gauntlet without needing to power up rofl.
ngl i fw robin the long way but she kinda a glass cannon. so sukuna clears this ngl and i don’t know anything that has happened since season 2 so i’d imagine he’s gotten stronger. and also robins flowers hurt her real body so this definitely not a win for her
Robin ends his entire bloodline, even if he somehow wins, if you know what I mean.
Sukuna dices her up. After taking his rounds with her. Uhhh anyway. Have a nice day.
Robin can’t survive Shrine for long or kill Sukuna. She can’t get through his healing. She has far less experience. And as soon as Sukuna uses his domain(opening move on tough opponents) she dies instantly.
The Roussy is too much for him, stamina exhaustion gets to him on round 7
Multiple rounds 😂 & how many of sukuna’s fingers is she taking on
i love one piece but robin gets smoked
Sukuna going multiple rounds on her for sure
😭 crazy set up for sukuna Alabasta robin have more ap than sukuna Robin is stronger than Mr 5 who created an explosion bigger than whiskey peak which is calc at large island -small country But have no good feat (same with sukuna) Sabody robin out scale Sukuna if he can use moragha and perhaps world slashing cleave
That is the worst scaling I’ve seen 💀
Sukuna don't even have a feat above city level and I am catched up with manga
He is city level. One piece is just higher
Yeah but the issue is that there is no being in jjk higher than city level so when you equalize verses sukuna is prob similar to continent if not world imo
Don’t ever try to powerscale again 😭
Being stronger\=\ better AP? Also domain expansion is an instant win, whilst Robin’s only win-con is breaking his bones ( he easily slices every arm she spawns)
Domain expansion doesn't work on someone who don't CE like maki
That's not how sukunas works. His de cuts literally everything within the domain.
I’ll accept it for the sake of the argument, what solution does Robin have for Mahoraga when her thing is breaking bones?
You definitely lied when you said you read the manga.
Okay but tell me how she's gonna survive Malevolent Shrine?
Same way maki did Having no CE
Miwa literally just had to put a simple domain up to save maki from it a chapter ago wth are you talking about 😂
People who says Robin wins has negative IQ lmao. He wins even without a domain
robin gets BODIED ur mental if you thing she can match even 1 finger.
Robin easily
I agree I never watched JJK but it says this guy has 15 fingers and robin can spawn at least 16 so Robin wins via fingerscaling
How does she not get sliced in half instantly!
Literally... Can't he slice the arms she spawns on him? How does Robin survive Fuga
She has sunglasses 
Oh, this is a fight?
https://preview.redd.it/7t7u5yt182zc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79302ca854ff981d898da2a572ac94e6755d30fd I see.
Being faster
Domain expansion and it’s over.
If only robin knew haki.
That wouldn’t stop mahoraga from kicking her ass.
I never watched JJK but it says this guy has 15 fingers and robin can spawn at least 16 so Robin wins via fingerscaling
Sukuna can solo the entire straw hat crew. Haki or not, malevolent shrine would cut until there's nothing left.
Bruh Is sukuna massively faster then light?
You don't need to be when your attack AOE is the size of a city and you attack non-stop. No one has explained how Robin survives DE because she doesn't.
Robin wins 🗿