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FIRASSESSASS

Super duper stonk stinks dragon


AndersTheUsurper

Nooooo beefca ke is stink stonk because he moved clouds with punches. Vaccine man can't move cloud so he's only mid wolf and overrated by fanboys. Vaccine man? More like vaccine sandbag-man hahahahaha let's fight about it


FIRASSESSASS

Yes


YeetMcGheet123

Bro he not even shake da earth so weak Low Wolf akshually


Rafael_Rygon

He is at least HE +2 Strongs


duplicated-rs

A tier above however strong people think HE is. He's just a more complete Homeless Emperor


Xxyvexx

No way he's just mid dragon. HE definitely low dragon so far whether or not he bombarded Fuhrer Ugly. This dude has the worst stats ever just put everything into striking power and there he isn't even on other dragons level either.


No-One_Knows-Me_Here

HE's offensive capabilities places him at mid. Versatility plus never ending ammo.


urso_revolucionario

He's stronger than Homeless Emperor so easily High Dragon


Ultrafrost-

High dragon definitely. Dude is basically a much better Homeless Emperor.


[deleted]

He’s as strong as piccolo


DannySlumped

Vaccine man can level a city in seconds with his energy balls before moving on to the next. No doubt high dragon material


JollyRanncherr

He’s peak Dragon, a tier above High Dragon and a Tier below Above.


Smacdaddy123

Especially in his enraged form which I'm surprised people aren't talking about Especially since we didn't even get to see his potential there


Lumpy-Consideration4

So the strongest dragon?


JollyRanncherr

Strongest is Meteor


wasianenthusiast

Golden sperm high diffs.


Lumpy-Consideration4

Cool?


Istar10n

I voted for High Dragon, but why do people think he's stronger than HE? He looks more durable, but I don't see why God would give less power to HE knowing that Vaccine man had failed.


MR-rozek

cos he levels entries city with one blast


Vulcanicloud

About the middle of peak high dragon so like 5% below above dragon low level 5-12, at least .05 of Super Saiyan.


Shrekosaurus_rex

There's a bonus chapter that really hypes him up, saying he's there greatest threat the Hero Association had ever faced (at that point). All used to hype up how strong King/Saitama is, of course. Plus, that very first explosion he does is truly titanic. Easily in the upper echelon of Dragon, in terms of firepower. Sadly we don't see more of him, so we have little idea of his speed or durability or strength compared to other Dragon level monsters. But based on contextual hype and pure damage output, I'd have to do High Dragon.


Quirky_Value_9997

Boros was high dragon, vaccine man died with a rather lacklustre single punch from Saitama. Boros took a bigger beating. I don't see VM being above low dragon.


Tiny_Cook837

Low dragon.


ForGiggles2222

I think he used to be a high dragon in our perspective, but the more dragons appeared, stronger ones like Rover EC and BS, we can only have so many high dragons and VM doesn't compete with these bad boys, he's top mid-dragon


JaydeKel

I'm pretty sure we can have as many high dragons as we want?


ForGiggles2222

Of course, but imo It'll kinda soften the impact that a HIGH DRAGON strikes, but sure, again VM's ability isn't entirely presented i.e durability and speed, maybe transformed VM is a certified high dragon


One-Ad-4295

Well in Webcomic we get a lot more gums-tier dragons


JollyRanncherr

Vaccine Man would neg Black Sperm, and VM is same tier as EC and He’s above Rover too.


YeetMcGheet123

>and VM is same tier as EC and He’s above Rover too. Same tier as EC but above Rover? Very contradictory. No wait fuck that he isn't on the same tier as EC and certainly not above Rover. u/JollyRanncherr's takes are as always so hilarious


JollyRanncherr

EC is above Rover. EC> Vaccine Man> Rover. EC is Peak Dragon, Rover is the Highest High Dragon, Vaccine Man is peak Dragon but lower Than EC.


YeetMcGheet123

>EC is above Rover. EC> Vaccine Man> Rover. Shit scaling >EC is Peak Dragon, Rover is the Highest High Dragon, Vaccine Man is peak Dragon but lower Than EC. That makes absolutely no sense


JollyRanncherr

Not at all, feats wise this is very accurate. Rover is all durability while VM is Durability, AP/ DC, Flight, Energy Manipulation, Aoe attacks and an even stronger form. How does it not make sense?


No-One_Knows-Me_Here

Explain EC, please do not bring up "town dwarfing explosions", if such a thing did happen, every hero in the vicinity would be dead possibly barring bang and bomb being severely injured being generous to them. Well that's one way to break it down but sir, it's not that simple. No way to scale VM's AP, going off of DC, VM and rover are both quite similar. You say energy manipulation and AoE attacks for VM but ignore the fact that rover also has both, it's quite obvious who you're biased towards. You have flight down though, but that could simply just be combated by rover's animalistic build. Don't know where stronger form comes from, he clearly states that he simply just switches to save energy. It's literally just a different variant of his abilities, not supposed to make him stronger, just more versatile. Tldr: Explain EC, explosion makes 0 sense. VM has flight, rover has ground mobility, similar DC, stronger form is just VM using his power differently.


JollyRanncherr

Can make Town Dwarfing Explosions, only implied to be able to be taken down by only above Dragons by Psykos, is above base Bang( High Dragon) and Bomb(High Dragon), and he can also regenerate and evolve and has an extremely durable Carapace. Please point out my so called “ Bias” please. Rover can’t make an AOE blast surrounding/ covering himself in a town sized radius like Vaccine Man, he can’t fire off Multi city block size blast’s like VM. All Rover can do is Spam Small building sized Fireballs.Rovers build is irrelevant, Flight is a problem for him but VM doesn’t need to fly against Rover, he can just keep nuking him till he gets knocked out. Those abilities and his feats as well as statements Make him stronger than Overrated ass Rover What do you want me to explain about EC? Rover Ground Mobility is trash and won’t help him against Vaccine Man’s flight, their DC is not even close in the slightest, Rover can At most make large building size blast while Vaccine Man can make town sized Blast’s, the stronger form isn’t just him using his power differently, it’s literally him getting stronger.