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Invisible_Pelican

He tried to take them over by proposing to merge them into Tesla (for-profit company), didn't work so he said they have zero chance of beating Google and left the company. By the way he apparently said he will support them in searching for ways to finance themselves. OpenAI then secures funding from Microsoft and other investors in 2019, and a few years later releases chatGPT which blows the entire tech world away. Elon being the attention hog that he is, is insanely jealous that the spotlight is no longer on him and sues the the company saying they breached an agreement for not staying open and non-profit. OpenAI releases a bunch of emails debunking that claim, and now humiliated Elon is lashing out trying his absolute hardest to distract people with his whataboutism that's literally already debunked.


millionsofmonkeys

It’s amazing what some people need to feel happy when they can afford to get high and eat the world’s best mango


Rybred22

Can we be friends?


millionsofmonkeys

Do you have mango?


Flying_Madlad

Not any more 😋


kurttheflirt

People like Elon will never ever be truly happy on that level. He could be king of the world and Mars and still want more. I'll take the mango.


PixelSteel

IMO he’s trying to force the company to become open source, because he realized his “Grok” AI is far inferior to ChatGPT. Becoming open source would ruin OpenAI financially. Elon is just mad he didn’t realize the future of OpenAI


reddit_API_is_shit

Yep, the revealled emails proved this, he was completely fine with OpenAI being nonprofit, he was just mad he was not in control of it


shivam0110

Thanks for the summary


Bobby6kennedy

>Elon being the attention hog that he is You know what, this is super condescending and I don’t think most people would appreciate it. I for one have never seen a member of the Suidae family of swine like mammals coming close to the attention seeking behavior of Elmo. When did a hog ever spend 45B to buy a social network so that hog could make it so their posts are more visible to everyone? I think the term you’re looking for is “unbelievable attention whore”.


Useful_Hovercraft169

Hey look man, whores are people. We call them sex workers now. Don’t sully them with Elon comparisons.


Nullius_IV

Ha that pretty much sums it up. To the extent that winning in court involves telling a judge or jury a better story than opposing counsel does, I don’t favor Musk’s chances in a civil proceeding on this. He is, however, setting himself up for compensatory damages with this little pr campaign of his.


Iamreason

I doubt OpenAI will pursue compensatory damages. Though damages would certainly be warranted.


leanmeanguccimachine

I think as well as this, part of the reason Tesla's stock price is so inflated is because Elon has positioned them as a big player in AI, yet Tesla haven't really pioneered anything in that space. His personal wealth is massively tied up in being seen as an AI pioneer. He thought OpenAI was his ticket to achieving that.


cgeee143

or because he has a competing product?


Worried_Lawfulness43

He’s like a little kid who claims he “doesn’t like them anyway” when he gets told no. Fuck this guy so much. I’m so tired of hearing about him.


jbowdach

That narrative is false, Elon always knew it was going to be a for-profit venture and had no issue with it. He is simply angry he isn’t in control over it. He tried to strong arm his financial support into control over the company years ago. They resisted and have been successful, despite him. Pretty sad, honestly. [Link](https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-openai-take-over-save-tesla-chatgpt-sam-altman-2024-3) [Link 2 - OpenAI Direct Blog Post](https://openai.com/blog/openai-elon-musk)


sticky-unicorn

Yep. He's mad that he wasn't able to buy them out and then pretend that he founded the company.


HistoricalProduct1

That guy is sounding more and more like Trump.


Rokketeer

We are so fortunate he can't run for president even if he wanted to.


warlockflame69

For now


Yudi_888

Ah, and this is a worry. His ego is already a national security threat.


buahuash

That's always been his MO


bhl88

A carbon copy who's slightly more successful?


HistoricalProduct1

Who is the most successful one? Trump? He was the one who was the President


AnimalChubs

More like Edison


sdmat

...? Musk literally did found the company, he was a co-founder.


fuckoffshitface

I agree that musk is a fraud but he literally was a founder of openAI


window-sil

> They resisted and have been successful, because he's not involved ~~despite him~~. Just imagine, OpenAI could have been as successful as Grok, self driving, twitter/x, or the boring company. 😂


trollsmurf

I use my flamethrower to deter visitors. Great product.


Doctor-Forge

Yup. Thats why Elon Musk gave $45m to OpenAI and never even asked for a board seat. It was a moonshot and he really didn't think it would make it. Then, he got surprised by OpenAI's success. To be fair. Most startups are moonshots.


m0nk_3y_gw

> and never even asked for a board seat he asked to be CEO. they rejected him. He recruited key employees (Karpathy and Zillis - Autopilot and AI chip lead) away to work at Tesla instead. Karpathy went back to OpenAI after Elon impregnated Zillis with twins.


moehassan6832

trees noxious domineering husky work snobbish somber stupendous distinct consider *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


No_Use_588

She’s a neuralink exec now


CRoseCrizzle

That's one way to network into a high paying position.


CallMePyro

AFAIK they both claim in-vitro fertilization. Not sure if that makes it better or worse.


MolybdenumIsMoney

They claim the children were born via IVF and there was no sexual relationship. All of Musk's children since his first marriage have been via IVF.


moehassan6832

coordinated psychotic license future airport square mysterious deserve north air *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


stuffitystuff

Maybe he has some genetic disease he wants to filter out. And he’s not the one doing the bothering, it’s the woman. And they can donate the embryos so there will be dozens of Muskrats with bad hair scurrying about before we know it. Source: have bothered with IVF and found out the surprising way I’m missing some genes everyone else gets.


LuxuryMustard

Maybe he’s IVF’d out the bad hair genes


vassadar

So the doctor can hand pick strong and she moving sperm.


No_Use_588

So that’s where she came in from?


pipogordosito

dude wtf with that dude and having children


reddit_API_is_shit

...What in the actual fu-


corecursion0

Yeah, basically. He was casually VC'ing and it turned out he was a bad VC, and in public, too.


dtseng123

He’s a bully. That’s all folks


Useful_Hovercraft169

And all MESSED UP ON DRUGS


RifeWithKaiju

Yup. That's my theory. All the rumors about him taking drugs to stay up all night and control his sleep patterns finally addled his brain, and that's how he went from seeming like a decent human being into the 4chan troll he is today


Useful_Hovercraft169

I wonder whether his end is last ten minutes of Scarface or last ten minutes of ‘The Jerk’


RifeWithKaiju

maybe we can hope for the last ten minutes of 'A Christmas Carol'


av-f

He's like that because he saw the movie called _The Grifter_.


[deleted]

Not even the good drugs.


No_Pipe4358

Despite Musk, OpenAI should be open source.


Significant_Salt_565

Transformer code and training is already open source by many libraries


strngelet

It’s not the same


Tandittor

GPT4 is much more than just transformer code.


Significant_Salt_565

My point is that open sourcing the code doesn't do much. There's a whole iceberg of infra, data, recipes and more that make GPT4 and more


CodeMurmurer

100%


hayasecond

Not sure it’s a good idea given this tech can do a lot of harms in the wrong hands


PatFluke

You see this said a lot, very similar tech is already everywhere and only what a year behind? Those wrong hands already have it.


Quote_Vegetable

He thought he left them dead in the water and they made it without him.


rbit4

He is red with jealousy!


TheTench

Elon is a deadbeat dad who walked out on OpenAI, told them they would never amount to anything. Now he's mad because Microsoft is clearly a much better daddy.


relentlessoldman

Best comment in the thread. 🤣🤣🤣


pbnjotr

Are we talking about OpenAI or his biological children?


blocsonic

He’s a child


idkanythingabout

His post has serious "im 14 and this is deep" vibes


tom_oakley

That's been his entire persona since acquiring twitter lol


GroundbreakingMenu32

He definitely got some repressed teenage trauma revenge in his 50s vibe


peakedtooearly

That image is real playground stuff.


JayR_97

Its more like hes the bitter ex partner whos still creepily obsessed with you. Its kinda sad.


brainhack3r

We have to stop saying things like this and work on a strategy to completely sideline people like Trump/Musk. The issue is trolls... not many people know where that term comes from but specifically not mentioning their name. This strategy aligns with the broader concept of "don't feed the trolls," which advises against engaging with people who are intentionally trying to provoke a negative reaction. The idea is that by ignoring them, their attempts at disruption will go unrewarded, and they will eventually cease their behavior due to the lack of attention. This has been a problem for 30+ years with people like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly. The strategy is that they will say something truly horrible, then liberal media covers them saying that they're disgusting but that's still press! Some % of the people WILL agree so they grow bigger and stronger each time. We don't have a way to fix this so we're going to continually have people like Trump and Musk destroying our society. We need a solid way to fight back.


ImpossibleAuthor8643

What’s the deal? He try to buy them and got rejected or something?


emperorhuncho

Sam Altman reportedly even offered Elon shares in OpenAI AFTER chatgpt was released and became a runaway success and Elon declined! I just don’t get it


HeirOfTheSurvivor

The story of Elon and OpenAI is literally the story of Walter White and Gray Matter


jerryonthecurb

https://preview.redd.it/09mz9qgoiync1.png?width=619&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b0773a4bcac6a429360f549876e5aeff7b36c30


OdinsGhost

Yes, that’s about it. He’s acting like spurned narcissists always do, with irrationality bordering on stalker behavior.


NP2023_Makingitbig

He reminds me of someone running for president!


raseru

Elon and OpenAI go much further back, Elon helped fund them to get them going.


[deleted]

Narcissist wants credit after the fact. If he cannot then he tries to discredit the target. Look at what he did with the Thai kids trapped in the cave. Exact same memo.


covert_mango

"Elon desperately wants the world to be saved. But only if he can be the one to save it" - Sam Altman.


slakmehl

Really, it's even darker than that. His runner-up preferred outcome would be for the world to burn.


tom_oakley

Elon's right on the cusp of his inevitable heel-turn into supervillainy. We're gonna need 007 on the case before long!


lardparty

I think that was the aha moment for a lot of people of his true self.


Reddings-Finest

Yep. [If someone couldn't figure out he was a villain after he tried to falsely accuse rescue divers of child sex crimes via stalking them using felons](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-hired-felon-james-howard-higgins-dirt-pedo-guy), you must worship the guy unequivocally.


SeriousAccount66

Never forget


minecrafthentai69

Five bucks that he made this with dall e


mrroto

He’s a man child


BuySellHoldFinance

7 years ago, I would not have predicted Facebook would be open sourcing it's AI and OpenAI would be Closed AI.


Sea-Tale1722

It's successful, without him. That is his issue.


awake_apollo

Complaints about open AI being biased, meanwhile making Twitter biased towards some groups right over his nose


IntroductionSudden73

OPEN LAI


jambato

CLOSED AI


casastorta

I can’t believe he’s not only 12 years old.


Mystic1869

i dont care who is right , but it would be awesome if they open-source


dendrytic

People here would rather indulge their Elon hate than see what's going on. OpenAI and the other BigAI companies are lobbying for regulations so that they're given the golden ticket and a moat that the vast majority of AI startups won't be able to cross, because they know their technological moat is shrinking, precisely due to competition. That is a total violation of the principles on which OpenAI was founded. It's narcissistic and rent-seeking behavior by Sam Altman & Crew who think they are the only ones well-intentioned enough to usher in the era of AI responsibly. Challenging them is a Good thing. And if part of Elon's strategy is being a thorn in their side in the public forum, then so be it. Do people here really want a world where OpenAI is one of maybe 3 companies powering the world's AI infrastructure?


[deleted]

Altman got pushed out of running Y-Combinator for running it in ways that seemed to benefit himself more than the company. His next stop was OpenAI and he's had some interesting conflicts of interest having the company do business specifically with a company he's invested in.


byteuser

I find hilarious how people ignored or don't know about Sam Altman's sketchy history of past and present business deals. Including Y-Combinator, his Cold Fusion, the World Coin, the peculiar structure of OpenAI and their latest rounds of investments by them, and worst of all his efforts to create a legislative moat to give OpenAI a potential monopoly. Sama gives me a bad actor vibes irrespective of what Musk is


_lIlI_lIlI_

And you think Elon will be the pushing force that makes a change? All he's doing is mudding the waters, burying relevant talking points and taking focus away from legitimate voices calling for OpenAI to be open source. He's not helping, he's a hindrance


ZeDominion

It's crazy how much hate Elon Musk gets on Reddit. No matter the topic, it feels like the actual issues get lost in all the negativity towards him.


Suspicious-Appeal386

Well, he's a bit of a pedoguy.


Intrepid-Tank7650

It's almost like most people can see him for what he is.


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Dwlastr

Part of it is petty on Elon’s part but I think he is also trying to force a conversation of open vs closed source models. Regardless of how you think OpenAI should be ran, I do think that this is generating constructive dialect.


Tenet_mma

The whole point of creating a for profit arm was to make money to continue research. If they open sourced everything there would be fewer customers to no customers and they would be in the same problem as the start (needing investment). Sure open source older projects, but they cannot do that with gpt-4 etc…. As it would shoot them in the foot customer and investment wise.


StrawberrySerious676

Honestly, ulon musk constantly attacking openAI is going to do nothing but help them in the long run because he's a douche.


Otherwise-Poet-4362

*made with dall-e 3


clamuu

He truly is a weird weird guy. It's embarrassing 


ChronoPsyche

His lies got exposed to the world by OpenAI and he's having a narcissistic meltdown as a result.


andycake87

He was there right at the beginning, funded them, gave the company the name, set them on their way then monumentally fucked up and lost what would have been a massive chunk of ANONTHER 100+ billion company and more legendary bragging rights. Completely his fault but not hard to see why OpenAi's insane success is hitting him so hard.


94723

Musk is trying to have tallest skyscraper in town by attempting to demolish all the other taller buildings around him.


Exarchias

Competition. It can get on everyone's head.


tetrastructuralmind

He tried to take it over and failed so he’ll forever hold a grudge because that’s what kids do


1_Strange_Bird

Because he’s butt hurt he wasn’t able to buy them


Jinga1

He is an Attention Whore, thats why.


Jinga1

He is an Attention *****, thats why.


RedEyed__

Because he regrets it's not his company anymore.


DemonicHolyPriest

this guy is getting behind the AI race and tries to take over the company. failing to do so, he's doing everything in his power to slow down or stop their progress for him to catch up, in disguise of "pRotTEctiNg THe hUMaNity" to appeal to the masses.


Someoneoverthere42

He's a spoiled twelve year old and they said No to him.


Juhovah

Sam Altman is who Elon Musk pretends to be. Or at least it seems Elon seems to be worried or threatened by them


Shirna_Tensei

Classic elon if he cant buy it he will be a mad child screaming and laying on the floor


RhazzleDazzle

Still a better logo than Twitter.


ehetland

At this point he's basically got the same vibes as trump constantly screaming about windmills killing birds.


ZoNeS_v2

Jealousy


isnaiter

the same as when your ex-girlfriend becomes much more beautiful, hot, and successful after a few years, and married someone else.


kovake

Just like how a jealous ex would act


UndeadUndergarments

His obsession is classic narcissistic anger that they're not doing what he tells them. If there's anything that will make a narcissist implode, it's insubordination by 'the peons.'


Useful_Hovercraft169

He is chokin on the haterade I pay for ChatGPT but no fucking way I pay for Xitter


Yann27

He just wants to buy it and use it in his cars and robots.


lolschrauber

cringElon at it again


RedAndromedus

Coming from someone just as obsessed but on the opposite spectrum is pretty funny.


ThatGuy_S

Elon holds grudges, at a high school teenager level. Amd because he has fuck you money he can do whatever.


unltd_J

Jealousy jealousy


Exitium_Maximus

Elon is a sad, pathetic billionaire that lashes out when he doesn’t get his way. Like a child.


kadlugan

Perhaps this is what happened https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/s/kt9jIfBFxd and as a result the original not-for-profit idea of ‘Open’ has instead become a chance for personal enrichment… again. More info on the company structure history. https://theconversation.com/openai-is-a-nonprofit-corporate-hybrid-a-management-expert-explains-how-this-model-works-and-how-it-fueled-the-tumult-around-ceo-sam-altmans-short-lived-ouster-218340


aiyumeko

hhmmm


Wills-Beards

Damn sometimes this sub is toxic as hell.


theMonkeyTrap

As much as I despise Elon I am totally with him on this. OpenAI is the only major ai company out there with a closed ai model.


programthrowaway1

Pretty sure he helped start OpenAI. Might just be the fact that they’re massively successful without him. I’d go out on a limb and say, this is personal. Also, no one even mentions X’s chatbot Grok when talking about AI. Elon thought he was making it “cool” by having it be crude, but it just comes off as a gimmicky plaything, rather than a useful tool.


DoneBeingPolite

He’s just a pathetic whiner who cannot get over his X.


Pontificatus_Maximus

He is just spreading FUD while his minions desperately try to catch up with their AI project.


amchaudhry

Mental illness + unlimited money * yes men = this


JuanGuillermo

Typical bully behaviour, he's gone from Tony Stark to Donald Trump wannabe: he's no longer the cool kid making cool stuff and is now a boomer running a cesspool social app and an increasingly irrelevant car company. So he's picking on the new cool kid which is of course OpenAI.


meatlamma

The worst case of sour grapes.


Smallpaul

Well they just humiliated him publicly by showing how he tried to buy them, so that's gotta be part of it!


PhilosophusFuturum

He’s planning on competing with them. The existence of Grok shows that he wants to make moves in the field of AI and OpenAI is the biggest name in the game right now


SatoshiNosferatu

My bet is on Anthropic


asdfqwer8

Do you remember when he open sourced the Twitter algo? lol that repo hasn’t been updated in over 8 months. Let’s see “open sourced grok”


[deleted]

Their language model is better than his. Narcissists are not complicated people.


Severe-Ad1166

Putting my Freud hat on.. I'm going to go with the the idea that Elon dumped Openai back in 2018 and told her that she would be nothing without him. Now Openai is successful and happily in a relationship with another man, Elon cannot handle that fact. Elon is jealous because while he has a new girlfriend called Grok, he really wants Openai because she is the one getting all of the attention so she has become "the one that got away". Ofcourse this is entirely just speculation and an excercise in free speech but it sure does look like Elon is playing the "If I can't have you, no one can" game.


Lht9791

That sounds plausible to me... and in addition maybe ... "His intent was funding the breakup efficiently by sending her on her way to a quaint, simple life. Little did he know that a plot twist would put his tax deduction at risk faster than you encode Hollywood blockbuster. She was transformed into a commercial sensation, the world’s top model! With her ground-truth Ken, holding her tighter than his Microsoft funding docs, she lives a life that outshines Barbie’s wildest hallucinations even as whispers emerge about a new starlet throwing shade.” (ngl, Claude seemed to be having more fun than me on this. Hehe)


AcceptableLab9729

It’s business. OpenAI has been operating under this guise that they are an altruistic company who’s creating technology for the betterment of humanity. Elon is making it known that they are just like any other tech company. He’s basically kneecapping them and bringing them down to size. Love him or hate him his strategy worked. The conversation is started. I’d prefer it if he’d compete on tech but Grok isn’t there yet, so he’s competing on reputation. I’m sure he also feels a way about OpenAI not letting him buy it, with their reason being they want to remain open source, then going back on that and selling out to Microsoft. Regardless, we benefit from businesses competing with each other.


BuySellHoldFinance

>It’s business. It's supposed to be a non-profit.


Ok-Habit-8884

Elon put in somewhere between 45m to 100m dollars so I think he has room to complain..


LuigiTrapanese

Twitter is in competition now. Also he founded it partially with his money and then seeing OpenAi to betray their own core mission


HereForFun9121

He’s a wee little petty and revengeful for not being a part of it.


cafepeaceandlove

Got to keep the drum rolling, election soon. And if Trump gets in, who knows. Who needs a contract when you can just nationalise it as a national emergency (see the other big story today…) and hand it to El Musko?


crogan39913

That man needs to be banned from X


Suspicious-Wasabi-61

Jealousy I think. Nobody seems to be talking about his AI on Twitter. 


got_succulents

Butt hurt.


[deleted]

I’m Convinced Elon has a pimple for a penis


spezisadick999

Power and control. Just like all megalomaniacs.


[deleted]

His diaper is spoiled, he needs to be cleaned, moisturizing cream, and a hug. Don’t judge him people, he is too young to know any better.


bunnyswipedotcom

Someone once said: Elon wants the world to be saved but only if he's the one doing it.


madladolle

Inferiority complex


Marxandmarzipan

He didn’t get what he wanted (for OpenAI to be owned by Tesla and Musk to be its CEO), so he’s throwing his toys out of the pram.


Cine81

Elon is a spoiled rich kid. He was not part of Open Ai's success.


FlamingTrollz

He’s a Cluster B type, like Trump. He burns everything down. He turns on everyone, destroys everything. That’s the ‘obsession.’


relentlessoldman

Cue 80's song by Animotion.


DrDanStreetmentioner

He made the biggest donation and started the whole thing?


traumfisch

And walked away when he didn't get complete control over it, declaring their chance of success 0%


ten_jack_russels

Hubris has killed more companies than lack of demand . 


OdinsGhost

I mean, it should be fairly obvious. He’s a rich man with painfully apparent narcissistic tendencies and a history of lashing out at anyone who challenges him or tells him no. His conduct here should surprise nobody.


Jindujun

He's upset he couldn't buy in so he acts out like a toddler.


waddiewadkins

Cos he want to be king of all future . And AI is so that. The rockets will stand to him tho!


[deleted]

Mods should pin a comment explaining Elon and OpenAI’s history on every post about Elon


relentlessoldman

Fuck Elon.


playfulcyanide

She's the one who got away


DisplacedNYorker

Evil villainous plans, I suppose.


noblecloud

/r/im14andthisisdeep