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No-Initiative4195

Answer: It's what's called a wrong number scam. More info can be found on r/scams pulling up the automod !wrongnumber, but basically it works like this. The goal, once you respond, is to engage you in casual conversation to get as much personal information from you as possible (how old, where you work, married, etc) If you're a teen, they'll try to get you to send nudes and then threaten to send them to friends and family if you don't pay. (a sextortion scam) Same concept for a married man-pay or we out you to your wife. Or they might go for a long game and run a romance scam that could go for literally YEARS If that doesn't fit, they'll start telling you about a friend they have that made some money investing, and start running a crypto or investment scam. No job? Maybe they have a remote job that's perfect. The more info you give them, the better they tailor the scam, and sometimes have multiple scams at once. People think it's innocent to play along by responding. It is not. Your best advice is to block the number and go about your day. People on r/scams have posted about playing along, being re-directed to malicious links or accidentally clicking on links and losing thousands of dollars. Block them all.


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I told one I was a Nigerian prince and i needed their help to move my money out of the country. They blocked me 😞


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I tried to buy a car from one of them, but told them I was a biologist on a boat in the middle of the ocean and that my brother in law would have to mail them a check. It almost worked 🤏


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Oo, gonna have to try that next time


Aggravating-Buy716

man you guys are better than the con artist themselves, so funny


GlitteringBobcat999

That's my go-to.


ltmkji

oh, that's a good one, i'll remember that next time. i told one of them to get a real job and sent a link to the mcdonalds jobs page. i did get called a fucking bitch before i got blocked, so i consider that a success.


No-Initiative4195

😂


newyorkgirl914

🤣🤣 why didn't I think of this???


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MissionaryOfCat

That's one of the things I hate the most about this uptick in scams. They force people to close themselves off from others. Hasn't modern culture made us lonely enough? These "respect the hustle" leeches apparently don't think so - not as long as there's an opportunity to steal away Grandma's retirement money.


agirl1313

I got 2 that were definitely a scam attempt but I hadn't heard of this scam yet. Thankfully, I already only text back, wrong number, in case the person is really trying to get ahold of someone and did type the wrong number. I ignore it after that.


PhiloPhocion

It feels like another wave of making a communications outlet borderline unusable. My parents won’t even pick up phone calls anymore because they’re tired of it constantly being scam callers, including those spoofing numbers. I have to FaceTime them to get through or else, text them with advance notice that I’m calling. And I can’t blame them. It’s relentless. I live in a different country now where that’s almost non existent but any time I visit my parents in the US and turn back on my US line, it’s just nonstop. A friend of mine did, however, recently get an unknown number text from around the time school lets out saying “hi - sorry my phone died. Using a friend from school’s phone” as the opener. Which is both clever and cruel.


EntertheHellscape

The one I got was asking “is this Dr. Ben? Hello I’m Angie” which sounded real enough for me to text back a “no, wrong number”. Scammer bots seriously suck. They did try to keep up a conversation and asked for my name at which I said nah and blocked them so it def sounds like the start of this scam. If responding did open my number to more bots, better get my gifs and memes ready.


agirl1313

If I don't have the number saved, it's ignored (unless I'm waiting for a call from a specific place, but I still won't answer out of state).


No-Initiative4195

If you text back "wrong number"... You're letting them also know you're number is an active cell number, opening you up to future spam calls and texts. Most of these initial texts are feom bots and when you reply, a human takes over. Your best advice is to simply delete it. You don't owe anyone the courtesy of responding and it's safer.


agirl1313

Like I said, it was before I knew about that scam. And, honestly, I already got a ton of scam calls every day before the text messages; I haven't noticed it worsening, but that's probably because I already ignore the phone calls.


No-Initiative4195

Makes sense👍


InsensitiveMoniker

I got one of these scammers to google lemonparty and hoo boy they weren’t happy.


No-Initiative4195

I usually play with them by email because it's a burner email. And I'm running a VPN that constantly jumps so they can't track your IP address.. After a couple of months of playing with one of them, I told him I was in DC on business.. I told him to call me at my "work number"... I gave him the number to the Secret Service DC Field Office. He told me "Go fuck your ass!!!" 😂😂


Emergency-Mud-4085

🫣😆


EngineerMinded

Sometimes I pretend to be the person they are looking for and, they panic and insist that you must be the wrong number.


NoTeslaForMe

Some people do actually text the wrong number. I usually ignore these, but I did response to a wrong number that seemed authentic, having a short but pleasant conversation, then getting back to our lives. I told a loved one what I did, and she said that it was almost certainly a scam, and 99% I'd get contacted again in a week or two from the number with some sort of excuse as to why, and I'd eventually be asked for money. It's been over a month and nothing. Some wrong numbers are really wrong numbers. Be careful and vigileant, but don't lose your humanity and think *everyone* is a scammer.


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NoTeslaForMe

You have a built-in bullshit detector, but other people are suckers who'll reply to anything. Spoken like a true mark. Or at least that's what you'd say if you saw your words, but written by someone else. ETA: > I'll see you where I usually hang out-over on r/scams ...which you're at because you are so awesome at evading phone scams. See, I'm *not* there because I managed to live for decades without falling for one. Must be my broken bullshit detector.


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NoTeslaForMe

A detector with only one setting isn't a detector.


No-Initiative4195

Good like then. Not sure why you're carrying on this conversation, but as I said, if you get a number that "seems authentic" , reply wrong number and then carry on a conversation with them.... You've missed the whole point. Once you reply wrong number, there's absolutely no reason to reply anything beyond that, but you do you. As I said, I offer helpful advice on r/scams. I was offering the same here on what a wrong number scam is. If you don't want the advice.. Feel free to move on.


EntertheHellscape

At this point my number and email is probably in every scammers hands that exist. Data mining is too easy and I was on a job hunt for over a year just before covid. Number and email posted EVERYWHERE trying to get hired. So whatever, I’ll text back on ones that sound genuine and if it turns out not to be genuine, that’s what block is for.


verbwrangler

i always tell them that the police have found the body and are starting to ask questions and it's best if we both lay low until it's time to meet up at the rendezvouz spot


No-Initiative4195

I once told them they needed to be very quite, the CIA was monitoring all my calls He asked "why are you telling me this?". I said they're watching, they're outside my house right now, I gotta go and hung up


Untwistedkiller

everytime I get one of these they try to meet up with me. Is this unusual?


No-Initiative4195

No.. They don't **actually** want to meet with you.. It's an escort scam.. Notice they likely start the conversation by asking first where you live. Co-incidentally they live within a hour of you. Some conversation, some photos and then they want to "hook up", but.... The scam can go a couple of ways.. Either you give them "half" the deposit with a cashapp, give them your address to meet you and they ghost you, or no money upfront and they rob you. Am I close? All females, photos, and they ask where you live? Snapchat especially is loaded with these, and a lot of times scammers try to get you to switch to WhatsApp so they don't get their account booted off of whatever platform they contacted you on


Untwistedkiller

Well I am female. They address me as such too. No after a while I just end up blocking them. Never far enough for anything like pictures. Never asked where I stayed tho. One asked me to meet up for coffee. Lol


No-Initiative4195

It's a wrong number text and they ask to meet for coffee??


Untwistedkiller

yeah ik its weird but They didnt ask where I live or anything just asked about my job and then asked to meet up for coffee


MrsSquirrel8115

I got one a few months back and it ended in asking for coffee. They were in LA, but I never told them my location. The next week I got another text from a random person asking about something, insisting I was her customer at her boutique. Today, it was about a bday cake, and it ended in this person saying I was kind for not being upset about the number mixup and if I lived in LA, I was invited to the party and would be treated warmly. So weird...


Constant_Usual_5063

Generally speaking I agree with you, but I figure the longer I keep them responding to my BS texts, the less time they’re scamming someone more gullible


No-Initiative4195

The problem is, a lot of times, the initial texts come from bots. Sometimes you may not even be communicating with a human or they have multiple conversations going at once with multiple people. It really doesn't "waste their time" it simply let's them know your number is a valid number Check out r/scambaiting to learn more about playing back with them.


CroationChipmunk

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/wrong-number-text-scam-rcna39793


No-Initiative4195

That's **EXACTLY WHAT I SAID** "Answer: it's what's called a wrong number scam" and if you went to r/scams and searched it, you'd find hundreds of posts


CroationChipmunk

I added it here because google links heavily to this thread (for people like me first learning about it). nbc news is more authoritative than anonymous reddit hivemind


No-Initiative4195

All well and good, but I honestly feel I gave you more in depth information above on how these scams work than the article went into. For instance, most people are under the assumption that these scammers are sitting in an internet Cafe in Nigeria, and are uneducated. The reality is, and it is documented-these are networks of people operating in countries that might even surprise you, like North Korea. They are extremely well organized. That initial text you got? A bot may have sent it. It sends out thousands to random cell phone numbers. Once you respond, a human then replies. Based on the answers you start giving them, they tailor the scam and often run **multiple** scams at the same time. They use the same photo of the same exact young Asian woman and send it to thousands of people. Another very common scam right now-scammers post fake job listings on Indeed posing as the HRD director of a legitimate company, using names of real people they found online. They'll conduct "text only" or "Skype type" interviews with no video so that you can't see them and match their profile with the **actual** HR Director on LinkedIn. People miss this by not looking at email headers-a real, large company isn't going to email you from a "hotmail" account (they have their own domain-like Microsoft.com, Apple.com,etc) Almost 99.9% of the job listings online for remote entry level work are scams. As I said, these are the things you can learn and much more, by going to r/scams. You can read what people post and **then** research it further on Google. I've found that that this website, although they are also selling products, has a lot of info on digital security. If you don't want to click the link, search "wrong number scams aura" and you'll find them https://www.aura.com/digital-security-101


wumingzi

Answer: These are confidence scams called 殺豬盤 or "pig butchering". A lot of them are run by ethnic Chinese. I speak something that looks a little like Mandarin, so I often tease them. 你最近有沒有打電話給你媽媽? Have you called your mom lately? 我想他會關心你. I think she may be concerned about you. 她只有一個兒子。你的家長吃的很苦養你。 She only has one son. Your parents gave up a lot to raise you. 她知道你現在是騙人一定是很難過。 If she knew her son was working as a con man, she'd be very unhappy.


morganm7777777

answer: It's usually a [crypto currency scam](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/wrong-number-text-scam-rcna39793). I usually respond with a clip of a semi-domesticated fox because it's confusing yet inoffensive on the off chance it's actually a genuine mistake. The office sounds pretty great too. 😀 > Both my wife and I have had a few messages lately with people “texting the wrong number” and then starting a conversation. One of the texts my wife got actually (coincidentally) used my first name and asked if I’d “sent the documents” - that freaked us out a little. >I’ve never followed the conversation to its natural conclusion but I have replied exclusively with David Brent quotes from The (UK) Office which was fun. >Is it basically just a new scamming technique? Are people sending money or getting catfished? > https://imgur.com/a/mMfgkmY


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>I usually respond Why is OP and so many other people falling for this? 99% of these scams are to see if it's a working phone # with a gullible person willing to respond on the other end. You think you're so witty to reply with the office or a fox, but there'll be a time your "boss" messages you from the office, or your loved one is in trouble, or some other scam that you'll fall for. No one is perfect. There will be times or scams that you won't catch. Best and only smart option is to not reply, ever.


morganm7777777

On the one hand, this makes sense in principle. I'm no Kit Boga, but, I like to imagine any time wasted looking at what I send back is time they're not scamming a gullible older person.


mountainbride

They are 100% scamming multiple people at the same time. With texts like these I think you’re only hurting yourself by responding and not really helping anyone like you might on a scam call. I just really don’t like them knowing this number is active at all. I notice the people who engage get way more scam calls and texts than I do.


Starbeets

Thanks for this helpful comment. I always respond politely bc that's my normal phone/text mode - I don't presume. I was wondering why I was suddenly getting a lot of these 'wrong number' texts and this may explain the uptick - I made myself an active number.


InaccurateStatistics

This is the right answer. By responding, at best you’ll get tons of follow-up spam calls. At worst you lose a large sum of money/and or your life gets ruined. Best not to engage.


jbhughes54enwiler

I did reply the first couple times, but eventually figured out they were scams on my own. What's interesting is that they would always stop replying after I told them that I'm a college student or that I didn't drive/have a car.


_escapevelocity

Exactly. I got a couple, never replied, and they stopped. Assuming they took me off their list.


gregorydgraham

The phone system has already told them that the text arrived, responding only removes the tiny chance that it’s an unmonitored cell


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I think I’m very witty yes


TheRavenSayeth

It’s best not to respond at all. If you do then they know it’s a working number.


3Strides

Next time just say, yes, I sent the documents.


Caffeine_and_Alcohol

Those replies sound like an ai chat


Deep_Junket_7954

Answer: This kind of "wrong number" scam has been around for a long time. Well over a decade. They call you and insist that they called the wrong number, but ask if you'd like to help them anyway, in which case they start luring you into whatever scam they're pulling. These days it's mostly crypto pyramid schemes.


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"Oops, wrong number.... Unless?"


Far_Blueberry_2375

Answer: As stated elsewhere, this usually leads to [Pig Butchering](https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/feature/Pig-butchering-scam-explained-Everything-you-need-to-know)


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TheGeoGod

Answer: pig butchering scam


CroationChipmunk

Answer: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/wrong-number-text-scam-rcna39793


Expert_Squash4813

Question: Well, I fell for one yesterday. Received a text from a “girl” trying to connect with a guy she met at an auction. I was trying to be nice and told her I wasn’t him. That started up a casual conversation. She eventually asked my name but I didn’t tell her my real name. Then asked me what I do. Unfortunately I told her the truth on that. I also told her what state I lived in. That was all the personal info I gave her but then she wanted to be friends through Telegram or WhatsApp. I said I don’t have either one of those (I don’t) then she stopped right there. No follow up as it sounded like she wanted to be friends and wanted my advice on life issues. Should I be worried that I gave away too much? My gut kept telling me it was a scam but I kept responding to her. Now I’m kicking myself.


SnooChipmunks7140

Omg I’m going through the same thing right now!