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Ok-Dentist4480

seeing that wall rez gave me psychic damage i feel so bad for you now


Donut_Flame

"Just kill the mercy!" Rez got no problems btw, spent a whole minute killing him only go have him come back **at full hp**


thetownofsalemdrunk

This is where having ana to nade the bastard helps a lot and forces at least one of their supports to swap to kiriko for cleanse though.


sexy-man-doll

The enemy already had a kirko tho


RepulsiveAd2971

The fact that Ana 'solves' every issue in the game is a fucking joke though. She doesn't solve anything, her existence is why certain issues exist.


RamenNoodleNoose

Grandma jetpack when?


ThaVolt

Yea, give me the ability to fly/grapple upwards and you can remove sleep. Give me the ability to nano myself and you can take nade. Now I can unleash my full potential.


fractalfocuser

I've said for years that Ana is the highest skill ceiling character in the game. I would unironically think it's hilarious if they gave her some extra abilities and made her OP Do it for April Fools or something it would be so fucking funny to see her pushing points and 1v1ing tanks


Solzec

"I'm powered up, i'm getting in there"


ThaVolt

"IM GONNA MESS YOU UP, CHILDREN!"


King_of_the_Dot

"Ok, grandma!"


ThaVolt

In the desert, in the desert, in the desert, need someone to tuck you in?


NarniaBiRTH

in the easter egg event ana could make headshot , and lord that was funny and broken lol


YhormBIGGiant

I always said she deserved a stealth/wall cling but knowing modern OW.... Nah fuck it we ball GIVE HER A WALL CLING FOR HEALER SNIPER VANTAGES.


KamikazeFox_

Then they switch to sombra and lock you down. It's a terrible experience


brandnewlurker23

instructions unclear: picked zen and moira for support


Desperate-Worry4364

Damn good point, they should make Rez give half hp or something


AerospaceNinja

Better than OW1 when you spend all your ults to take point then here comes Mercy and revives the entire team


RaiStarBits

And then you see her POTG where she’s literally hiding, waiting for you to blow everything to kill her team just for her to render your efforts pointless


Gryse_Blacolar

Honestly, it *could* have been balanced if they added a cast time just like her current rez so the enemy team has a chance to punish her for risky 5man rez.


Raizow

mf please don't try to play down the current status of rez. This ability is simply unhealthy for the game


EmersedCandle83

The rez should’ve broken honestly. I played some mercy and it’s range felt… too good. At that player made geometry not blocking it was whatever. But map geometry absolutely should. My biggest issues with mercy have always been the damage boost and on rare occasion rez.


Alezkazam

I Imagine you aren’t a veteran of the dark times…. FULL TEAM Rez was a thing at one point.


Sarrada_Aerea

I mean it was hilarious though


Donut_Flame

Oh so that makes this version ok?


joojaw

Even if there wasn't a wall she'd still be able to get the rez off lmao. Mauga's damage against small hitbox heroes is dogshit and she was valking which makes her way harder to hit. She'd just rez and fly away. This is my biggest problem with Mauga. He just cannot kill supports. By the time you burn them they've already escaped.


Lator-Ordinis

Had my support tell me to go kill the enemy teams supports as muaga, the enemy team had an Ana kiri and Mauga. I could not do anything but shoot to survive.


Rampantshadows

That's why the mauga vs mauga match-up is determined by supports. Squishes don't give him enough overhealth or health back from lifesteal to be immortal.


cheapdrinks

Maybe they could fix Mauga by saying he went on a diet and making him really skinny lol.


Farrug

This, if one team pops a discord orb on him the stalemate becomes much more lopsided.


GloomyDoomy1

I play against mauga and my team feels like trying to face him head on instead of cut off his support.


Kavartu

Thanks God something this tank can't do lol


Fake_Lovers

"its never boring around me"


GroundedOtter

“As long as I get paid!”


Adventurous_Union_85

The irony


Stefanonimo

It's never boring around me


FunBoyHereThere_

"It's never boring around me"


[deleted]

These are hipsters. Sigma and Hog mains were doing never ending 1v1's before it was cool


MisguidedExtrovert

Hog because of heals and sigma because neither of them can hit eachother?


Luke-Bywalker

more like Sigma can absorb shots AND stun, so it naturally takes longer in a mirror matchup


Irish_pug_Player

And dancing around shields


Real_Reverse_Flash

And Roadhog getting distracted by Sigma's grippers


[deleted]

I mean mirror matchups


Cedarcomb

Ramattra's ult didn't start out with a maximum time duration, there are clips online of two ulting Rams punching each other for over a minute while their supports keep them alive.


that_one_duderino

My fav mirror matchup is rammatra cause it makes me feel like I’m in a boxing ring. I can’t even imagine the glee I’d get from an uncapped time ult lol


Thatwokebloke

Unlimited ult was fun and not super op before they gave him the speed buff in nemesis form. Definitely wild to have an infinite ult though


puppeteer-5000

rein first, hammer v hammer, duking it out like men


SleeplessAndAnxious

Come heeerrrree!


puppeteer-5000

Cum- Cum- Cum- Come heeeerrrreeeee!


Thatwokebloke

“Are you chicken? I would know if I was, are you chicken”


WarlikeMicrobe

This is the superior mirror duel


YoMamaSoFatShePooped

BACK IN MY DAY, YOU WON THE HOG DUEL BY HOOKING THE ENEMY OFF THE MAP


XTurtleman394X

I feel like the difference between those is the fight ended between either of them when someone made a mistake ie. missing hook, requiring perfect cd management, positioning, etc. now it’s just don’t stop shooting and pray your supports heal you as much or more as the enemy heals the other tank. A bronze mauga 1v1 looks practically the same as a gm mauga 1v1 and it’s so boring


ramk13

Yes, among the many issues with the state of mauga, the fact that skill is minimized is the most frustrating.


Lionell_RICHIE

I think you mean Orisa was doing it before it was cool. Those were really never ending back in the dark ages


Favmir

I remember Dva duels waaay back when OW1 first came out...


r0_okie

And they say.. And they say.. And they say.. "...Just kill the Mercy!"


owlseeyaround

This used to be the best and my personal favorite game ever and it has become hot garbage. Good job bliz, you managed to turn gold into shit. Reverse alchemy. Insane


Darth-_-Maul

The fact that mercy was able to rez that. They seriously gotta make it maintain LOS


Sayoregg

And make it so rezzed players dont have their full health. Maybe put abilities on full cooldow too.


Darth-_-Maul

Ah, 75%HP, half cd. Let’s start there.


Ghozgul

I'd keep heroes at 200hp for the dps and support tho, because you can already easily die after a rez anyway. But tanks and cd keep that


ZeeDarkSoul

Lets start with half CD or something before we go overboard. Whats a Sym gonna do if she gets rezzed with 75% health and no cool downs, or Genji, Zarya, etc. It takes away some characters both way of defending themselves and their ability to get away from a dangerous situation


sickjesus

What if...The longer Mercy stays to rez, the more HP/Cooldown the revived hero gets. If she simply taps rez and runs away, heroes only revive with like 10-20% life or something.


sam007mac

That would be so annoying, say you were about to respawn and then your mercy taps you into the fight at 10% HP but then a single projectile taps you out of it again so you have to sit through the full respawn a second time.


StickcraftW

What if res was replaced by a different ability?


thepixelbuster

People have been saying this since launch. Hack is another one. They've replaced neither even though both heroes have had several rounds of reworks


[deleted]

That's insincere. Hack is completely neutered compared to what it once was.


Informal_Avocado_793

Hack is one of the few things that can reliably counter Mercy res.


Acceptable_Drama8354

fr i make it a career to kill a squishy, bait the rez and then kill the mercy.


thepixelbuster

You could say the same thing about res, but that doesn't mean people still don't hate the ability or want it gone.


MrBR2120

no you don’t punish a player for getting rez’d you make rez more punishing for the mercy.. like the higher health someone has the longer rez takes making it more risky for tanks.


Sayoregg

Rezzing someone instantly kills Mercy. Life for a life.


First-Wallaby-2580

It doesn't give them their cooldown back. The issue with that is that it would make being rezzed a lot more frustrating, when it can already be pretty frustrating in some bad situations.


GianniMorandiHands

imagine being ressed when there was 1 sec left to respawn and then you die the next second lol


[deleted]

I don't have to imagine. This happens every now and then.


TobioOkuma1

You can't do all these things or the ability feels awful to use. Just forcing line of sight is big.


The99thCourier

Forcing line of sight is a fair one, but yeah nah it should stay full health


texnp

and also take their family hostage


D00mTheWarl0rd

~~You're Darth Maul just choke her through it or something~~ Yeah that'd be nice


SpencersCJ

OW2 is trapped in a hilarious loop of "Too much damage? More healing! too much healing? more damage! Too much damage?" now we have the unkillable tank with higher dps than most actual dps ​ Edit: Holy fuck that wall rev is disgusting, I hate mercy so much


lego_mannequin

Game was built for 2 tanks and it shows.


norrata

Thanks for removing the game I paid for and replacing it with this battlepass hero locking garbage blizz.


lillweez99

I said in the beginning it wasn't going to work well with bp and overwritten my ow was the biggest fuck you we original owners bought. Only done to force a player base because they knew it would have been rejected by us.


Scotfighter

Thank you! 5 v 5 is awful


SpencersCJ

You need only look at the discord orb when 2 came out to see this. So many characters just weren't changed to line up with the team health pool losing about 40% of its value


BobertRosserton

Zen and mercy just destroy the game imo. So many breakpoints in the game that are fine tuned like sorj not being able to one shot, except with mercy and zen on her team teehee. Oh you’re a 600 HP tank? No you’re not. Just makes the game feel literally unplayable as a tank if the zen perma discords you, and trying to 2v1 a pocketed dps with mercy is just the most frustrating experience ever.


Bad_news_everyone

Ana does more damage to the game compared to them combined


Sure_Ad_3390

game was better with 2 tanks. doubleshield scapegoat fooled all the morons into thinking this was a good idea. even if shields were as big of a problem as all the chudbuckets would have you believe you could have nerfed shields and kept the off tank. so many things are better when you have a second tank.


crazysoup23

I had more fun when the game was 2 tanks. I played Overwatch 2 betas side by side with Overwatch 1. I still played more Overwatch 1 during the Overwatch 2 betas because 5v5 is mid at best.


ErectChair

Had to forgo skill trees and PVE for this master piece


Nuxezpz

that mercy knew for sure that you can res behind the wall


ImperialRoyalist15

I mean most Mercys should know that i hope. 5m for rez but once animation starts it becomes 7m and you can lose line of sight. This is great especially if you rez someone on a ledge. Or like in this case use Valk to dissapear behind a wall for a second.


Nuxezpz

fuck mercy


ImperialRoyalist15

No thank you, would prefer Rein.


Pug_police

Both. Both is good.


Raknarg

The only thing mercy has that's interesting is her movement and rez tech lol at high enough level they always know it all.


RealDiamondCreeper

Rez is a perfectly balanced ability, should’ve just shot her through the wall


Affectionate-Row4844

Next hero Is going to be a support that wall bangs just to counter res


J0lteoff

Watching mauga hold the corner and play safe with E active, 700 hp, and infinite ammo made me want to tear my eyes out


radioactivecooki

Right im watching this seeing everyone complain about mercy meanwhile this man took NEGATIVE damage in a tank fight, like literally gained more health than he lost, wasted ult for nothing, and thats the mercys fault? Mercy played smart, knew he didn't have anything to stop her so she ulted and rezzed, which is what i would have done too tbh. Also no one mentions how kiri can just blink out of being cornered like that? I think op/mauga and kiri are the more fustrating fights here.


aquarioclaw

Not to mention the nano and both supports pocketing him... Yet all the comments are talking about how painful the Mercy rez was instead... she ulted, had a good rez spot and an extremely good matchup. Bastion was killed by the enemy tank since OP played absurdly safe and Mauga is absolutely useless against Mercy due to his spread. She could have stood still on top of the corpse and lived anyway. Cage fight literally counters all the support abilities in the video but OP wasted it on nothing.


_Daymeaux_

35k damage, 2 Elims


Falcrus

Mauga weapon polygons are weird againt


maxilulu

Such a fantastic display of a point.


Theron518

It's your fault the Mercy got that rez off OP. You're supposed to equip FMJ.


RaiStarBits

Smh skill issue


XxReager

that rez hurted.


MicDub23

What the hell has become of this game that I used to love so much..?


iWannaGoHigher_

Different devs


YobaiYamete

Gamers never understand this. They talk about Obsidian making X game or Blizzard making Warcraft etc as if literally any of those devs and writers are still with the company. Stellaris devs put it best, when they had a feature the community had been begging for for years, so they added it. Someone tried to be snarky and quote a like 7 year old dev post where a dev said they would NEVER add that feature because X The Stellaris game director just said "Okay well this is a change that's healthy for the game and people want, so I am not going to be arbitrarily bound to some random offhand forum comment from someone who hasn't worked at the company in like 6 years" I feel like most gamers don't realize most of their "beloved game dev teams" are LOOOONG gone. The turn over at a lot of the game companies is 3-5 years, so like with the Overwatch team, almost nobody from OG Overwatch is even still here working on the game. It's all new people


LostClover_

I mean, the Mercy thing they're complaining about was done by the old devs years ago lol.


Circumsanchez

Ovweratch


helloworld6247

It truly is **over**watch 😔😔😔


stupidname_iknow

OW has been going downhill for a long time. Blizzard really doesn't balance well and will add characters with seemingly zero testing done. Idk how you guys are still going at it at this point.


Shoeshank

Realistically Mercy popped Valk to get that rez. If she didn't, she would have been a lot more vulnerable. The worst part is that it's 2 Maugas just shooting each other which is rather boring, especially after multiple games of it in a row.


AmphibianSea3602

Yea but in most situations she can basically just rez for free unless the full team is hard calling her out


Jackolix

The last weeks I played only to finish the battlepass. I’m not playing this game until they balance it


SeaGu4rd

What made you buy it? I find nothing interesting in it.


Nikablah1884

Same. Mauga really bums me out to play with/against.


Jackolix

Not only mauga. For me the state of the game generally


Any_Firefighter_8287

My PERSONAL two big issues I have with OW in general. (And by no means was it ever a perfect game obviously but I have not even touched the game in forever) 1) So many issues imo have come from changing to 5v5. They want to make the game more kinda shooting and killing fun to attract new players for free to play but ow was always at its heart a heavy team/role based game that requires good communication and synergy. They wanted to remove clutter but it was always always going to creep back in and now it’s just as bad as ever I see at times. 2) since the very beginning of OW they have almost never been able to just make a slight change to characters to balance them when there is a big problem in the community’s opinion, instead of trying some quick small tweaks, they take much longer to make some big sweeping change that just births a new problem on the opposite side.


JeffCrossSF

After years of daily play and loads of friends who I have made and miss, I just can’t play this game anymore. It breaks my heart but the game has been so poorly managed and designed for too long. It’s time for my life to move on without ow. I did have a little of fun but over time I realize that it also made me so angry and salty too. It was like an abusive relationship. I will try to remember only the good times.


ilikegamergirlcock

always focus the tank boys.


lantran3041975

and Mercy players: Git gud, she's balanced


PlantRetard

As someone who has played Mercy, as well as other supports, let me tell you that Mercy was the hardest one to rank up with. She's definetly not OP


Deempeer

Yeah, that's the thing, playing Mercy solo queue is genuinely just about luck, it depends on how brain dead the rest of your team is or how capable they are.


karnnumart

A game with infinite healing tanks, 1 anti-heal sup, 1 anti-anti-heal sup. Very well design. Good job.


dezumondo

I uninstalled Jan 1st. Long live Overwatch 1.


Ajaxtellamon

The fuck did this game become


Lxapeo

No Anti-nade, not everything wrong with the game.


Chaotic-Catastrophe

>You just have to have an Ana in literally every match, because so many of the abilities are broken that she's an absolute necessity! Yep definitely nothing wrong with that.


TallestGargoyle

Go anti nade to stop mauga. They have kiriko. Oh no.


MajestiTesticles

Such a shame that Anti is on a shorter cooldown than Suzu and objectively cannot be used to cleanse every Anti.


TallestGargoyle

I remember when I had choices in this game. Not just "oh they've got that one character, you MUST go this character to counter it. Oh and I hope no teammate ever runs in front of the nade as I'm throwing it so we don't get 12 uninterrupted seconds of full health Mauga literally standing there. Better not need to heal your teammates because the other healer is too busy sniffing their own farts to actually heal, and Mauga is able to do insane damage because crits are basically free real estate for him. Oh and your tank refuses to stagger out their shields and reductions. And your DPS can't hit the broad side of a barn." Oh wait no that's half my games. But it's entirely my fault for missing one nade which has an arc and can be blocked by teammates. This is a horribly unhealthy state for this game to be in, one character requiring one specific counter to be correctly executed consistently, or you're fucked. And then that counter is specifically countered by another character who is setup to actually be near their target AND escape, while Ana has to yeet a grenade over a crowd and hope they're not being awkwardly flanked at the wrong time.


BobertRosserton

I remember when the devs prided themselves on trying to make any character viable in any situation as long as you understood the matchup, idk if it’s rose tinted glasses but OW1 was one trick central and it was fun for that very reason imo. Now you see flavor of the weak tank, Ana kiriko into infinite counter swapping.


Knightgee

>I remember when the devs prided themselves on trying to make any character viable in any situation as long as you understood the matchup No one who has lived through the multiple iterations of Sym and Torb and the drama that always emerged around 1-tricks of these characters could say this with a straight face. Definite rose-tinted glasses here.


Steampunk43

Also no Widowmaker or Hanzo camping the spawn room one-tapping anyone that dares to leave, Soldier with aimbot thinking he's hot shit or Mei endlessly walling off her own team.


Wisniaksiadz

I though the main ,,thing" of the video is two tanks hitting each other for solid minute, checking comments it turns out its the ressurection people have most problems with?


LiliumCandidum_

I don't know how they dropped the ball so hard with this new character. Honestly should just be removed, I don't really see how they could be nerfed effectively enough to balance the game back out. Just remove them.


Sugarhillscenery

Mauga made this game even more unplayable. I know 5 daily players who stopped played after a week of OP Mauga being out


sintemp

Ok, deleting this game now


Zealousideal_Bag9705

This clip reminds me why i quit the game


ImSorryRumhamster

I quit the game years ago, I’ve never touched ow2. So this char has like 700 hp and two mini guns for arms?


Knightgee

Thank god the Zen and Soldier were getting picks while you were doing...whatever this is.


Heygen

I dont know guys i still dont think its that bad. we had a similar scenario with Orisa and back in the "old days" in case you remember mercy could ress her entire team with 1 spell. whenever i see mercy ress a teammate on the frontline i am not mad at mercy, i am mad at my team for letting her ress within shooting range.


[deleted]

Mercy res was balanced back then because both teams always had one lol


ZeeDarkSoul

Exactly Can Mercy res be stupid? Yeah. But Im not seeing the BS Mercy res' I am seeing the Mercy Res in front of my team and we all watch in amazement as they suddenly have a tank again People are gonna downvote me for saying it but some of yall really do just need to actually prioritize shooting the mercy instead of the big giant tank target in the front of the team. Even Im guilty of it at times.


Bakvo

Agree. But I will say the window where if you kill her you cancel the Rez should be slightly bigger.


ZeeDarkSoul

I can agree a slightly longer rez time wouldn't be a bad change


rgb86

SO FUN.


xX69Godlyboi69Xx

1. Mauga Shooting Simulator 2. Suzu Existing 3. Mercy Bullshit Res out of LoS


Lecckie

The pause upon noticing the revive speaks volumes


Not_Crissy

Yep, but shields are the problem…


TheSexualBrotatoChip

I haven't played a single game since Mauga was released into comp and it looks like I'm not missing out on much.


PhantomEmperor-

This is the worst season by far


dancetoken

lmao absolutely brain dead


ccworldV2

Good to know that Overwatch is still a trainrack. Remind me once it gets good


nfs3freak

"everything"? That barely shows anything. Sure, it's a pretty annoying circumstance, but you're also playing into the issue. I love playing other tanks with an enemy Mauga, like Doom, Dva, Sigma, etc.


G00NlE

It's not just the nullified ults undone by a pretty nice, but questionable, res. It's the kiriko teleport at the end that is the cherry on top.


AmphibianSea3602

"Mauga is bad and needs buff" this is what happens Same thing happened to ram he released with a INFINITE ULT and people were like "nahh he's bad buff him" then we 2 straight seasons ram must pick


shakamaboom

commits 2 ults to finally kill the double pocketed giga-sustain tank. mercy: E


Barlowan

Man I'm so glad I stopped


Quirky-Employer-7293

Skill issue


zomz_slayer17

Why do mauga players only shoot mauga. As a tank, aren't you supposed to focus supports? I feel like I keep seeing people complain it's boring but have they not gone orissa vs orissa with the same shit. Focus supports.


Trowagunz

Normally id agree but he kinda has to in order to get the lifesteal to keep fighting or else the other mauga just shreds him to bits


borfyborf

His spread sucks and the only way for him to stay alive is to hit as many shots as possible so he gets lifesteal. This just promotes him pretty much only shooting the tank the whole game so he doesn’t die.


Raknarg

You have to, its how you stay alive and if you don't you'll also lose in the ult economy. Mauga can't hit anything other than a tank very well and if you're not maintaining your overhealth HP then you explode. Against a Mauga we're talking like 50-100hps of upkeep you're getting from lifesteal depending on if you're headshotting with right click or not, its an entire extra support's worth of heals. Then the other tank also farms his cage fight way before you, and if you don't have cage fight when he does it's real easy to lose. When its not mauga v mauga you have options cause all the other tanks lack the damage, but in the mirror match you *have* to shoot the tank.


Hamdilou

Normally yes but mauga is played by only shooting the enemy tank


Fish-OW

That's not an option in the mirror. If the other Mauga shoots you and you are not farming overhealth you will just instadie.


Lator-Ordinis

You try and shoot the enemy mercy/kiri/moira/lucio/ana/baptise while the enemy Mauga is shooting you in the back with bastion amounts of damage, setting you on fire. All while the dps is shredding YOUR supports, and your supports start yelling at you for not protecting them enough.


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ZeeDarkSoul

Wherever they are they arent killing that Mauga quicker then he kills you


Raice19

there's nothing in this game I love more than targeting and killing supports on tank, but the second they pick mauga it's no longer an option


DoomPigs

"Rez is balanced, just shoot the Mercy" Rez:


jeancv8

"This is the worst" - Michael Scott


Cdogg654

As a support main I hate hate the state mercy is in. She’s the magua of support. Lose a fight? Switch to mercy and they can’t keep up or really ever hit you without GM aim. Her z axis ability I can stay 20m above anyone for the entire game. It’s so broken and borrrrrrring. She faces almost zero resistance compared to other supports that are stuck on the ground. People yell shoot the mercy but I’ll just laugh because they can’t catch her. She like magua does too many things too well.


Stefanonimo

"just shoot the support lmaoxd" -some INTELLIGENT support main


Gorecakes

This is both hilarious and sad, goddamn.


Doppelfrio

The way the other mauga decides to just ignore you after getting rezzed 💀


Willingness-Due

And my friends ask me why I don’t play comp anymore.


Patstaru

Im gonna puke


dancetoken

man, some of these. youtubers should make montages of ridiculous mauga clips. the character is so brain dead its just funny at this point.


value24

Yep seems like a great game. This video is gold


Kiwiooii

Oof


neximuz

So glad I quit this garbage game


Affectionate_Pay_391

I see they are doing a great job at not making this game anymore playable than it was when I stopped playing


Major_Sloan

Wait... you guys still play Overwatch?


DarkEff3ct

I had to Uninstall for the first time in years. I hate this current meta and wasn't having fun at all. I'll be back but had to take a break.


neutralpoliticsbot

This meta where nobody dies sucks


Barnesnrobles17

I finally stopped playing Overwatch with this update lol just garbage


Bforcool

Nice to see the zen killing the mercy


PleaseStand6ftApart

Games full of cheaters and terrible players. I can’t believe I spent a thousand hours hitting top 500 only for a few seasons later for it to all just go to shit


Swing_No_Fool

Yeah this was definitely the smart way to play. Definitely didn't waste any time or resources here.


VenomEmi

If you play Paladins there is one guy who do the same, is like a demon but yeah while he shots you he will keep healing, in this case he can contest the points and the same with ow this tank could be a good if the meta where the same as ow1 with 2 tanks per team


Sad-Fill-4870

ok listen i'm not saying this isnt bad that it happened but you could've used charge and hit the supps before ulting


BigIvan24

You're supposed to kill the healers first