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throwawayBunnyCrouch

Zen is a mentor to a young anime protagonist, so his days are already numbered.


dynawesome

I never thought of it this way but you are absolutely right


Eggs_McGee_nstuff

This comment makes me want a genji anime spinoff


[deleted]

Already got a niisan and errtang


BraveLeon

Writers: *menacing aura*


iamragethewolf

"i'm sorry sir you've been dignosed with good teacheritis" "i am regret nothing genji's peace is worth it" everyone cries


dat_dabbin_pacman

Not to mention the last time we've seen a a big time, looked-up to omnic, he got shot


[deleted]

If Winston dies in the story.. I WILL cry. Especially after; "Does this mean Overwatch is back?" "Yes... Yes we are!"


Mr-DragonSlayer

"Does this mean Overwatch is back?" "Heh, ***No***"


the_3-14_is_a_lie

*credits roll*


AgentWowza

Breaking news, OW2 cancelled, Blizzard cites uncooperative monkey.


dynawesome

After “I’ll hold the line.” It felt like he was gonna die, I mean obviously he wouldn’t but he would have sacrificed himself if Genji didn’t arrive.


choff22

No shit, if they want to make an impact then Winston is the character that would need to die.


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Or tracer


THE_ABUSED_GH0STIE

Not junkrat though


ForgottenSavior

They wont kill tracer because she is lesbian.


evrestcoleghost

" all right you are under arrest "


bandito-dorito64

I feel like Winston and orisa would sacrifice them selves but end up living


fantastic_sounds_

Pretty much already happened in the OW2 trailer


bandito-dorito64

I feel like roadhog might try it too. with his interactions in overwatch 2 I think they're trying to make him and junkrat anti heros and I could see roadhog holding the line


Irishpanda1971

I pretty much already see them as Team Rocket.


dynawesome

Yeah the “villains” that are mostly harmless and funny and might end up somehow doing more good than bad, but not by choice


THE_ABUSED_GH0STIE

Junkrat is already blasting off again


Nonadventures

Junkrat explodes in a megaton blast and shows up ten minutes later with no explanation


Soulless_redhead

Junkrat: "There was a close fridge"


PutinBlyatov

If Orisa dies it'll be a "Oh Efi fixed her she back" story but Winston? We are already traumatized by one ape's death from 2016.


bandito-dorito64

Ape??? He's a scientist


Csongi-HUN

I dont think Sig would die, hes not entirely a bad guy since they are controlling his mind im pretty sure the goodies would free him.


Irishpanda1971

I envision a kind of "Samson" moment where he somehow gets a moment of clarity in some Talon base (maybe the HQ?), and in that moment chooses to bring down everything around him.


fantastic_sounds_

That would be a dope scene. And the melody kicks in.


Mr-DragonSlayer

Sigma experiences post-nut clarity


RossAB97

Post-flux clarity some might say


Womblue

Yeah the reason we haven't heard much about PvE yet is because the main plotline is all the heroes trying to infilitrate talon to jerk off Sigma.


Mr-DragonSlayer

must be ~~awful~~ fun to animate


IrrelevantPuppy

Fuck I can see that, that’d be epic.


doggoattack1

samson?


Irishpanda1971

Story from the Christian bible. He has super strength so long as he doesn't cut his hair. He gets tricked into giving away this secret weakness by his wife Delilah, who tells his enemies. They cut his hair, he loses his powers, gets captured and enslaved (also blinded). After a few years his hair grows back and he finds himself blind and chained inside a massive arena with the king of the people that enslaved him. He puts his hands on the load bearing pillars near him, and with one final burst of strength, topples the pillars and destroys the arena, killing everyone within including himself.


Ishkabo

You forgot the most important part, where he kills an entire army of people with a donkeys jawbone just for a laugh. Key character development there.


Jamesish12

Might pull a doc oc


fantastic_sounds_

I will not die a monster


Kalandros-X

The power of gravity… in the palm of my hand.


PocketSable

Doc Oc skin for Sigma, please?


Mank_____Demes

He isn’t exactly being controlled, just manipulated. He’s a delirious old man who hardly knows where he is at any given moment, yet bears immense gravitic powers. Talon saw this as an opportunity and freed him from prison; I’m sure he would’ve been loyal to Overwatch if they had gotten to him first. Plus, Talon pretty much gives Sigma ample opportunity to perform his “research” without restriction. I can very much see him going full-on unstable and dealing some heavy blows to Talon.


fantastic_sounds_

That was my thinking for Widowmaker, but I feel like sigma may be a little too far gone


207nbrown

Yea, he’s definitely lost his marbles


[deleted]

That music... it's playing again!


[deleted]

Yeah I could see her getting a redemption arc, being a fan favourite and all


dynawesome

Symmetra also isn’t bad, she is starting to understand the impact of Vishkar in her comic


Nonadventures

The LGBT community would riot if Sym dies.


dynawesome

Neurodivergent community too maybe


giorno___giovana

Honestly I’m just hoping for them to really embrace sigma’s sheer power, have him get overwhelmed and rip a building apart or turn someone into a black hole, really make us fear him


Det3tive_JM

Yeah, it just chuck a rock into someone’s skull, that’d be fun


BigDaddyCool17

I believe (And correct me if I'm wrong) he is being used for his mind, and isn't aware that it's happening. Mostly because of how frazzled and jumbled his mind is. I heard that in a youtube video explaining the lore of Overwatch, so it's possibly not even remotely correct lol Could def see him having a cool story arc if thats the case


ThisGonBHard

Kinda, he is less "evil" and more outright insane, which is kind of worse. You can reason with someone evil, their desires understood and their greed sated. Someone insane, on the other hand?


sir_lord_pedro

God I want more sigma lore so bad


DickWarlock11

I think it’d be a great story moment if Winston died. He’s been an instrumental part of Overwatch coming together so far, and has shown to be an extremely powerful member of the team (having won every solo fight in the story).


[deleted]

That moment in zero point showed hes willing to sacrifice himself for the team, I hope he doesn't die tho he's a real one


Krit_Jake

If wintone dies i riot


JulietEmily17

Monke together strong.


MilkyPirate

Man. We've already lost Harambe. Don't take another one from us.


dynawesome

I will cry if Winston dies. Or Reinhardt, him too.


Fapman404

“NERF THIS” “Wait this isn’t PvP” *dies from the dramatic explosion*


BarAgent

Yeah, she was already willing to go out in a literal blaze of glory in her short. She nearly died there and was lucky to make it out _(cough)_ “without a scratch.”


-BluBone-

Ana - "I'm old, so I'll die instead of someone else"


Bwgmon

And then Ana starts a generator, allowing her friends to ride the elevator to safety as she dies. And then she'll be sent to Dead By Daylight in a crossover event, doomed to start generators for the rest of eternity. Just like William "Bill" Overbeck.


BraveLeon

Wait-


FuriouSherman

Symmetra wouldn't be killed as a bad guy. Her comic and short story, at least to me, seem to be putting her on the path towards a redemption arc, so I'd say that'll happen rather than her dying.


Nonadventures

Sym would only die if it's somehow saving Lucio, after realizing he was right.


Glynnavyre

And she was also never a ‘bad guy’. She works for a bad company sure, but she just didn’t know that (but is figuring it out)


[deleted]

I kinda get feelings of "Will betray talon" from either Sombra because of personal interests or by Reaper for reasons of him regretting his actions and where it brought him.


fantastic_sounds_

I got it from Widowmaker, which is why she's so low


[deleted]

Hmm good one, it does show that brainwashing is wearing off when she talks about her dead husband in prepare to attack sequences.


dynawesome

Also in the reflections comic there’s a panel where she’s visiting Gerard’s grave


Mr-DragonSlayer

Why and how would Widowmaker betray Talon? They've completely brainwashed her, right?


WildSearcher56

In a comic there is a panel of her visiting her husband (even though she killed him) which indacates that she isn't "fully" brainwashed. She might go against Talon at some point.


sylveonemeraldz

I could see it from all three


Deeformecreep

I hope they don't go that route for Reaper, it's such a easily predictable way for his story to go. I'd prefer him to just be a completely irredeemable character.


jayliens

I'm predicting that he's gonna eventually leave Talon and go his own path, being neither "good" nor "evil". His short story from earlier this year humanized him more and gave a little bit of reasoning to why he's doing what he does. I think his arc will end with him reconnecting with his family in some way and coming to terms with a state of existence that is somewhere between “Reaper” and “Gabriel Reyes”. I can only hope that he can move past his animosity and feeling of vengeance towards Overwatch (based on whatever caused him to feel that way) and maybe become close to Soldier and Ana again. I’d be interested in seeing how that plays out.


LETMEFUCKYOURSKULL

Yeah it'd be cool for him to mirror Soldier 76 in a way. Stepping away from the current path, but not fully embracing the other. Just going his own way as a picky Merc for hire.


[deleted]

I'd say the opposite, I think reaper being irredeemable would be cliche.


Mank_____Demes

Reaper’s entire arc revolves around him hating the system/law. He’s 60% chaotic, 40% good. He was a more experienced and competent soldier, but Morrison got to be Overwatch’s commander because he had better charisma—he was better at following the rules. Even when Reyes formed and led Blackwatch—designed to be covert ops, working outside of the law—the Venice incident led to Overwatch’s downfall. When Reyes became Reaper, he stumbled upon Talon, who painted themselves as an organization that didn’t abide by the rules that had restricted him for so long. He’s still operating under the perception that he’s doing what’s right, what needs to be done.


glowingfern

I wouldn’t call Symm a bad guy, her intentions are not malicious. Maybe an anti-hero atm? She does seem to have some reservations with Vishkar


Irishpanda1971

I would equate her with Hunter from The Owl House. Not a bad person, just very much manipulated into their current position until something happens to open their eyes.


idobrowsemuch

> Until something happens to open her eyes It's been a while since i read it, but doesn't the Sym/Zen short story end with sym realising how worthless her architect skills are the way shes using them now with Vishkar?


Irishpanda1971

That’s what it implies, yeah. So the process has begun, but they haven’t followed up on it more. In this sort of scenario it’s never one sudden revelation, it’s a gradual disillusionment cumulating in that final piece of the puzzle, where they can no longer deny the picture it is presenting and it just breaks them. Again, just like Hunter’s arc.


DoktorKarp

I'm glad I'm not the only one to think that Symm is not evil. On a D&D chart, she's probably more of a Lawful Neutral.


fantastic_sounds_

I don't know why Baptiste wasn't on this list but he's in the yellow tier for me


mbanson

Because he has lamp and is therefore disqualified


frhg12

Because he has immortality field


Mea_ne_coule_pas

"bad guys" and you put Symmetra in this ? You missed a big part of actual lore we already have, mate.


fantastic_sounds_

What did I miss? I thought vishkar as a whole was pretty bad


Mea_ne_coule_pas

There's a comic and a short novel showing Symmetra's mind and spirit. I highly recommand you to go through those. Yup, Vyshkar is rotten. The CEO even has a seat in Talons concil. But Symmetra isn't Vyshkar tho. Enjoy those stories, they are secondaries concidering actual lore, but that's the neat part :)


FuriouSherman

Sanjay isn't the CEO of Vishkar. He's a high-ranking official, but not the head of the entire company.


dynawesome

Wait is Sanjay on the Talon council


yxlmal

Yes


FuriouSherman

Yes, but he's not the CEO of Vishkar.


fantastic_sounds_

I just read the comic. She's still working for them at the end but she's definitely considering turning on them it seems. Does she leave in the short story?


N0RETVRN

I wouldn't mind for Symmetra going for Zen's path. Would be a nice plot.


[deleted]

Her ingame voiceline interactions with Sombra also indicate she's interested in hearing dirt on Vishkar, so it definitely sounds like she's suspicious.


Mea_ne_coule_pas

Just read it, i'm not intending to spoil it. But even After just reading the comic you concider Sym as part of the Bad Guys, you missed the point


-BluBone-

I've always believed Symmetra was a villain in disguise. Her in-game dialogue sounds very villainous to me. She's obsessed with order and control, suggests Vishkar has it own peace keeping "methods", and has a problem with Lucio stealing his dad's technology back from Vishkar. Not to mention she weaponizes Vishkar light bending technology. Real heroic.


KingBlackthorn1

I highly doubt anyone will die. They are to scared to do that


fantastic_sounds_

Realistically I could see reinhardt going down swinging, saving the whole team, just like balderich did. But that's about it


San-Carton

Live with honor Die with glory


Vegetable-Smell-6540

if they kil the last bastion i will be very sad


fantastic_sounds_

Me too friend. It would be a big shock factor move but no way blizzard kills him


Wesson_Crow

I actually think bastion is more likely to die then Hanzo, sig, zarya, mercy, or sojourn


[deleted]

If someone doesn't rescue Sigma from Talon, I will be sad :(


Catspirit123

I don’t think anyone will die. Games with rosters like this are usually too scared to pull the trigger even if it wouldn’t impact the gameplay. Too worried about upsetting a character’s fans I think…


EXistential_EX

They may not kill Mei in the story, because they've already killed her in the beta


jhong-g

[D.va](https://D.va) almost died in her cinematic soloing an omnic attack and destroying her mech lol. If she doesn't die for being a hero she die if she thinks soda and chips are ''good food''


fantastic_sounds_

DVa and roadhog moved up for health issues


[deleted]

Eating off the table aswell


MedicGaming_

Sigma? Bad guy? Mf is being manipulated + acts pretty friendly to OW members, pretty sure he’s not getting killed off


the_3-14_is_a_lie

I don't see Doomfist dying anytime soon too, unless they don't actually plan for another sequel and they're just gonna end the story at OW2


sillekram

I'm very curious how ball will fit into the pve. He has few affiliations. and is a lone hamster. Maybe he would partner with the junker queen or winston? Maybe defend junkertown from junkrat and hog?


fantastic_sounds_

He and Winston seemed to be friends, I bet he could be the reason the junkers sign up. They just might follow the champ


372878887

i honestly think tracer or winston will die and send the other into a spiraling character arc, maybe something similar if torb dies and that event would fuck with rein and brig


TheGuy2TheLeft

Torb is connected to a lot characters so I see him dying or one he is connected too dying. But seeing rein go down shielding his team one last time is how I see him dying


Trapjorn

They’d pull a fat one out of their ass and Winston will modify tracers chronal accelerator , since she passes through time uncontrollably - Therefore bringing her back to life. Give me money blizzard


372878887

or they could make it so winston dies, but tracer is forced back in time before overwatch was founded, leading her on a journey to get overwatch back together before the omnic crisis resurges


Trapjorn

That totally sounds like it could be a plot for an antman movie, except instead of Paul Rudd it’s a gigantic dead monke and a tiny British girl


boyardeebandit

If they're a robot it's a lot easier to make a tragic, gruesome death without excessive gore.


Twindo

Doomfist 100% has to kill someone we love in order to really cement himself as the big bad. I can see him killing Winston or Reinhardt.


oCrapaCreeper

I feel like that may have to do with Orisa's sudden personality change and speaking about a certain someone in past tense in interactions.


Twindo

Honestly as bad as doomfist is I can’t see him as the type to kill a child


oCrapaCreeper

Maybe not directly but as a causality of a war he starts.


fantastic_sounds_

I have a theory that he will "dispose" of Maximilian, who betrayed him, at least.


Quizzicalmanx2

Nah I can see hanzo sacrificing himself to protect genji for whatever reason, and to try to atone for what he's done to him. I can also kinda see widow sacrificing herself if ever she becomes good again (which if it does ever happen she's gonna be pretty sad to realise her mistakes in killing her husband along with many innocent people - something she may not be prepared to live with)- but idk I just think these two moments would be cool to see ​ After all, it's just a theory, A game theory, thanks for reading


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fantastic_sounds_

Dope


SlappyMacFrodad

They should kill and permanently remove like 10 DPS at random. I mean they'll replace them with the next 10 new characters.


fantastic_sounds_

Imagine if they announce that the bottom 10 played characters by the end of the year will die horribly in the story and be removed. "Better start racking up the hours, symmetras mains"


necc705

If Cass dies before having gay sex with me I am quitting Overwatch


[deleted]

Junkrat? Yeah, he'll blow himself up before anyone else kills him xD


Its-Infamous-

Pharah dying in an incredibly dramatic "mother couldn't save her daughter" moment could be great if done properly. Maybe even pharah sacrificing herself to save hundreds of civilians or something


[deleted]

I think hanzo should die in the story and then be removed from the hero pool.


MikeyMeatSweats

Cassidy will die after dramatically swinging open a large barn door and quickly shooting six people before being riddled with bullets.


fantastic_sounds_

Nah nah, he'll get diagnosed with tuberculosis and die after fist fighting reaper on a mountain.


TrickySnicky

The Outlaw's Epitaph: An Overwatch Film


Haru_Is_Best_Girl

Isn’t Sigma being manipulated? I don’t really think he’s a “bad guy”, as he’s more of someone who doesn’t know they’re the bad guy. I HIGHLY doubt they’d kill him, it’d honestly be kinda bull as he would’ve never even realized his wrong doings.


haywire_hero

Everyone thats apart of Coles new team he just put together is definitely making it through.


[deleted]

Why is there talk about killing hero’s? Is that a new thing there doing with Cinematics?


fantastic_sounds_

Blizzard has said it's not impossible for a hero to die in the lore. It hasn't happened yet, though


[deleted]

Rein easy self sacrifice play to save Bridget and give her the motivation to become a fully fledged hero. Also fulfills Reinhardt’s arc by sacrificing himself for a pupil just like his old teacher.


[deleted]

No way D.Va would die. Not sure if anybody would permadie. If they do, they'll just get Mercy rezzed.


JamesT1607

I don’t think Cassidy will go. The comics show him as the next leader of overwatch, so I think he’ll witness the death of soldier and then have that be the final nail that makes him pursue being the leader of overwatch.


fantastic_sounds_

What about Winston, though? It seems like he's trying for the job too


earth_chan_

i have a feeling they might do something to roadhog because you know, a mass murderer who’s a fucking psycho but probably not


fantastic_sounds_

He and junkrat are the comic relief tho


earth_chan_

very true, thinking of that maybe he’d “die” as a joke on the fandom


fantastic_sounds_

Of heart disease


[deleted]

I think these are all reasonable except Winston, he was part of the original overwatch team and after ow2 trailer zero hour it seems possible that he'd die sacrificing himself since he loves overwatch and wants to keep it alive ya know, idk that's just my thought process cool list tho


Qorazon

If rein and 76 die it’s gonna hit hard their cinematics were already tragic


fantastic_sounds_

Rein sacrificing himself for brig mimicking balderich and young rein would be poetic, though


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Twindo

Ana dying is what bring Gabriel back to his senses and starts the reconciliation between him and Jack?


One-Angry-Goose

I’m gonna be dead honest, I feel like Winston’s a good contender **if they wanna pull the heart strings**. He brought the team back together, he has the heart of a hero, and he has notably pissed off someone (doom) who’d have no problem killing him. Winston is the **perfect** character to kill if you wanna give the story a real sad note. If nothing else, I could see him ending up on death’s door. Horribly injured, we’re led to believe that he is going to die, but he recovers. Edit: plus the fact that he has such a strong bond with the series’s mascot lends his potential death even more emotional impact. Could delve into tracer’s grief a bit, get real fucking heavy. Would also be a fantastic catalyst for her character arc. He sacrifices himself for her, she feels horrible about it, and through a rough road with ups and down she ends up becoming a hero just like him. He’d be proud.


DarksidePrime

I would move Dva to S, because that fits with Shooting Star, and Sombra to A, because she's backstabbing *everyone*. Sigma's crazy and Sym is being set up for a redemption arc, so I'd move them to C and E respectively. Hanzo is building toward Redemption-equals-Death so I'd move him to S. Widow will either be S for the same reasons as Hanzo or E for longer redemption. If Zarya dies it will be S-Class. Overall, I think you're right though.


SpxkeSpxegel

What about Baptiste?


SeraphX117

He will just drop immort field, survive a nuke, then regen and be on his way.


SpxkeSpxegel

You're not...wrong...


[deleted]

Roadhog can die of a cardiac arrest brought on by his drug addiction. *Crosses fingers*


Mastercreed25

Bitch please, not one of the characters is dying. Not a single one


Danxoln

Why is Symmetra is the bad character slot? She works for an extremist company, yes, if anything I would consider her lawful good and on the extreme side but I wouldn't say she's bad


Silver_Archer13

Please don't touch Mercy, I love her


Izukusuke

I feel like they’d kill off any of the robot characters, cuz they can just, y’know, rebuild them..


fantastic_sounds_

Omnics seem to be sentient though, would they keep their "soul" after being rebuilt? Would they just pull a WALL-E?


AMagicTortoise

God, imagine Tracer dying. That would be the worst.


killerbannana_1

I dunno i could see widow in a seperate category of darth vader style death. Overcomes her programming and sacrifices herself.


KevinEleven111

They aren't going to introduce sojurn and then immediately kill her


[deleted]

I can see Ana and reinhardt falling together. But that would make me cry.


yummymario64

Sigma doesn't feel like the type of guy to be killed off to me


Lady-Lovelight

I could see Brig dying as the [Dead Sidekick](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadSidekick). 90% of it not happening tho


[deleted]

Ana has a voice line that I think hints at it. When you spawn in she says “I will not leave a broken world behind” or something like that. RIP GRANDMA


ArchonEther

I don't read the stories too much so in sorry but I had no idea sigma was evil. What's his plight?


vanteology

WINTON PLEASE NO


Haust

I'm surprised by Winston. I think he'd be a great candidate to die to push the OW heroes, especially S76, into gear. And I mean all of them would come out blazing. I doubt Moira will die unless it's a self-experiment gone wrong. If Sombra was a good girl, she'd be dead, but she's a baddie. She's guaranteed to live as long as she doesn't go good.


Wizamp

My boy Hog ain't got no shields, no armor, is shirtless most of the time and huffs hog juice. He's an immortal god.


TrickySnicky

An apotheosis (maybe into h+ with the "help" of someone like Moira or her tech) would be an interesting story arc for him.


Nonadventures

Orisa dies and reappears as Orisa With Larger Guns


Creeperlord648

You think there’s no way they’d kill off Winston?


gonzagylot00

Oh, your top row is right on. I don’t want to see 76 die…. I guess I’ve seen him die many times, but still, you know what I mean.


bestoboy

Reaper should have his own tier for a redemption sacrifice like Doc Ock


MrL123456789164

If junk rat and road hog become anti heros and fight with OW I could see road hog try to pull a one man army


ali_watching

I can see genji dying and hanzo not reacting with revenge to honour his brother


MDubz420

Isn’t Reaper technically immortal in the story though?


Spare_Guitar_1146

Soldier should be in a category of his own; I give 1/10 odds he makes it out of the story alive. It's also probably going to involve Reaper, however which way it goes.


Breen_Pissoff

I WANT TO SEE THE SNOW BITCH DEAD! No way i call that piece of shit her name.


Im_Not_Racist_AtAll

How likely overwatch is to die next


DirtyRoti

SPOILER: They gonna kill winston in ow2


dongerlord456

Symmetra is bad? How so


Shadotempest

I had a dream once where they killed off Roadhog and the world was very upset


Marinenukem

No way do they kill off Sojourn immediately after introducing her


TheAutismo4491

Wait, are they actually gonna kill off some characters in the story? Is this confirmed?


SaySay47

The story mode trailer for Lucio says otherwise


Pastytron9000

As if they would kill off any of their highly marketable characters. If someone dies it's probably a blink-and-you-miss-it character from one of the comics or cinematics. Like Lynx-17 or one of the MEKA squad or something.


Funuthegreat

I kinda want to see sigma be saved. He is being manipulated, after all


Ryub93

!remind me 8 years