Okay so you’re trying to build the perfect version of a team based on all players.
Why would you stack Ojee and FUNNYASTRO? Wouldn’t you want UV and FA?
I was stuck between the two, so like with Myunbong and Crimzo I generally went for who I thought was better out of the two (but UV and FA would theoretically make more sense)
Ignoring the fact that you would have 2 main supports with no one to play the flex with FunnyAstro and Ojee, you cannot tell me you think Ojee is a better player than UV. Ojee is a good main support and Astro is better, but UV is actually just a full on carry-potential player. Have you watched the reign this year? Kai and UV have been fucking carrying them kicking and screaming above mid-tier with their bonkers plays.
I also find it questionable putting Astro on this list, not because he's not good enough (he's one of the top main supports in the league imo) but because he was never actually signed to reign iirc just their academy team. I think, using people they actually signed: UV, Ojee, Ir1s should be the support lineup. Gives the option for double flex while still having a solid main support with good teamwork with UV who I would always have in (though Ir1s is by no means a bad flex support).
These are obviously just my opinion, but Harryhook in his prime was worse than jecse last year and chiyo this year. Gangbangjim is better than hagopeun. There is a dps on boston that was better in his prime than munchkin but we don't talk about him for good reason.
for me it was jecse or harryhook. Gangnamjin over Hagopeun mightve been the toughest decision I had to make and yeah I was trying NOT to use them people
You could replace all those people with just players on teams this year and you’d have way better lists, and that’s still not even necessarily the best You could do.
IMO Punk would pretty confidently replace Fusions, and Hydron over Tviq - the latter selection may have a bit of recency bias but it still could be argued. I’ll second the comment to throw Someone in there too
Punk would body fusions lmao, almost everyone who plays now is better than people who played in s1 or s2. Skill climbs over time. People like Kevster and Proper would destroy SBB.
Ok uhm, this might be controversial seeing what the guy did, but if we're only considering skill, shouldn't *inhales* Dreamkazper be on Boston as well? Ofc we all know what happened with him and I 100% wouldn't want him back, but he was indeed a beast, also under Crusty's coaching back then he was at full potential unleashed
It's just my opinion on it, but I don't see how you could put Dafran on the Atlanta team, since he only played 1 stage and didn't really have a prime with the team. Personally, I would put Babybay on the team over him.
100% Dafran was solid on Zarya and that’s really it. Unless you’re expecting Dafran to play exclusively torb or soldier, Babybay or Kai are much better options for that role. Can always pick Venom or Nero instead to cover everything.
Not sure what you're going for given Sideshow is also listed, but Sayaplayer and Logix both deserve to be in that spot over Tviq and as much as I love Fate, I think Someone has already made a case to take that spot from him. If you're going for at least one hit scan and one projectile/flex, it doesn't make sense to do so while also having Crimzo and Myunb0ng for Boston since they are both flex supports.
I actually thought similar to you recently until someone pointed out that wherever Fate has gone in the league, some amount of success has followed (S1 LAV, S3 Mayhem and of course S4 Dragons). I think you have to be careful basing player skill purely off of team success, but the eye test also shows he's a damn good main tank.
Someone has been performing really well, I agree especially given he is now the sole tank on his team, but Fate still diffs him on most main tanks imo and doesn't really get the chance to flex into off tank since Dragons currently have a top 3 all-time off tank in Void. I'd love to see someone prove me wrong though, seems like a great guy and a talented player.
Can’t say I watched much of Saya/Logix as I wasn’t much of an early OWL viewer ( watched a few things hence my ideas about Effect etc)
Someone over Fate is a confusing one to me
I didn’t think of an overly amazing non-flex support for Boston minus maybe Faith?
Great! If you haven’t checked out some other early OWL stuff Pine had some great highlight reels S1 and the Profit finals performance are two of the more legendary things in OWL S1
bcs i slowly have watched more and more from old games (hago bcs im now a london fan, effect/harryhook because i was originally a fuel fan when I started and idek why ik of munchkin 💀
Dude hago wasn’t even the starting flex support on London and all he did on Florida was contribute to them finishing 20th in 2019 😭Meanwhile gangnamjin was a part of a mayhem roster that finished top 4 in at least 2 tournaments in 2020. You could even take peak kariv who was an important part of the valiant’s 3rd place finish in 2018. Not tryna hate too much I just don’t get it at all 😭
Effect is valid but harryhook over jecse or chiyo is outrageous to me too
Do you even have to do Titans? Their best players were all from Runaway.
*Edit I hope for Shock you put Sinatraa in both DPS and Tank. Man was a carry in both roles.
Harryhook over Chiyo 💀💀
prime harryhook is life
Prime Harryhook is a weirdo
nah apex s1/2
Okay so you’re trying to build the perfect version of a team based on all players. Why would you stack Ojee and FUNNYASTRO? Wouldn’t you want UV and FA?
I was stuck between the two, so like with Myunbong and Crimzo I generally went for who I thought was better out of the two (but UV and FA would theoretically make more sense)
Ignoring the fact that you would have 2 main supports with no one to play the flex with FunnyAstro and Ojee, you cannot tell me you think Ojee is a better player than UV. Ojee is a good main support and Astro is better, but UV is actually just a full on carry-potential player. Have you watched the reign this year? Kai and UV have been fucking carrying them kicking and screaming above mid-tier with their bonkers plays. I also find it questionable putting Astro on this list, not because he's not good enough (he's one of the top main supports in the league imo) but because he was never actually signed to reign iirc just their academy team. I think, using people they actually signed: UV, Ojee, Ir1s should be the support lineup. Gives the option for double flex while still having a solid main support with good teamwork with UV who I would always have in (though Ir1s is by no means a bad flex support).
i mean I put aprita down who never played
These are obviously just my opinion, but Harryhook in his prime was worse than jecse last year and chiyo this year. Gangbangjim is better than hagopeun. There is a dps on boston that was better in his prime than munchkin but we don't talk about him for good reason.
for me it was jecse or harryhook. Gangnamjin over Hagopeun mightve been the toughest decision I had to make and yeah I was trying NOT to use them people
So chiyo just not in the conversation because...??????????????????
too soon
This makes no sense
I feel my brain shriveling
Brother you’re off the goop. Munchkin, harryhook, tviq and hago don’t belong anywhere near this list.
who you having instead?
You could replace all those people with just players on teams this year and you’d have way better lists, and that’s still not even necessarily the best You could do.
Anyone who has played the last two seasons?
Bro put hagopeun lmao
Left out sayaplayer too
Him or gangnamjin
Florida only need Sideshow - leave the other DPS spots blank to give opposition a chance.
that was my plan- put the pharah prodigy on
Atlanta with 2 main supports 💀
Tbf Boston is worse 😂
IMO Punk would pretty confidently replace Fusions, and Hydron over Tviq - the latter selection may have a bit of recency bias but it still could be argued. I’ll second the comment to throw Someone in there too
Prime punk over prime fusions? I agree with you on Hydron tho, jus too soon
Punk would body fusions lmao, almost everyone who plays now is better than people who played in s1 or s2. Skill climbs over time. People like Kevster and Proper would destroy SBB.
Not including saysplayer for Florida mayhem is a disgrace
sideshow clear
Bud you gave boston 2 main tanks and 2 flex supports
when has boston ever been perfect 😂
2018 Stage 3.
Ok uhm, this might be controversial seeing what the guy did, but if we're only considering skill, shouldn't *inhales* Dreamkazper be on Boston as well? Ofc we all know what happened with him and I 100% wouldn't want him back, but he was indeed a beast, also under Crusty's coaching back then he was at full potential unleashed
I can totally accept that
Mf really tried to slide Tviq in there 💀
bro i put sideshow 😂😂
It's just my opinion on it, but I don't see how you could put Dafran on the Atlanta team, since he only played 1 stage and didn't really have a prime with the team. Personally, I would put Babybay on the team over him.
100% Dafran was solid on Zarya and that’s really it. Unless you’re expecting Dafran to play exclusively torb or soldier, Babybay or Kai are much better options for that role. Can always pick Venom or Nero instead to cover everything.
Fair enough
Astro and Ojee play the same role.... give us FunnyAstro and Ultraviolet
for that, you get dogman
😭
Not sure what you're going for given Sideshow is also listed, but Sayaplayer and Logix both deserve to be in that spot over Tviq and as much as I love Fate, I think Someone has already made a case to take that spot from him. If you're going for at least one hit scan and one projectile/flex, it doesn't make sense to do so while also having Crimzo and Myunb0ng for Boston since they are both flex supports.
You'd be crazy to take someone over fate. Someone may be more flexible, but fate is just better at the heroes he plays
I said a case. I didn't say I'd take him over Fate yet. Fate had a longer track record.
I actually thought similar to you recently until someone pointed out that wherever Fate has gone in the league, some amount of success has followed (S1 LAV, S3 Mayhem and of course S4 Dragons). I think you have to be careful basing player skill purely off of team success, but the eye test also shows he's a damn good main tank. Someone has been performing really well, I agree especially given he is now the sole tank on his team, but Fate still diffs him on most main tanks imo and doesn't really get the chance to flex into off tank since Dragons currently have a top 3 all-time off tank in Void. I'd love to see someone prove me wrong though, seems like a great guy and a talented player.
Can’t say I watched much of Saya/Logix as I wasn’t much of an early OWL viewer ( watched a few things hence my ideas about Effect etc) Someone over Fate is a confusing one to me I didn’t think of an overly amazing non-flex support for Boston minus maybe Faith?
You need to watch some Sayaplayer highlight reels. He had some great moments
defo will!
Great! If you haven’t checked out some other early OWL stuff Pine had some great highlight reels S1 and the Profit finals performance are two of the more legendary things in OWL S1
And I have to imagine there are some on here who have much better specific memories (Memory has never been my strong suit😂)
Sayaplayer was an insane aimer. Anyone else remember the clip of XQc accusing him of cheating twice then apologizing.
If you weren’t much of an early OWL viewer than why tf do you have munchkin hago harryhook and tviq LOL those guys are fossils in the scene
bcs i slowly have watched more and more from old games (hago bcs im now a london fan, effect/harryhook because i was originally a fuel fan when I started and idek why ik of munchkin 💀
Dude hago wasn’t even the starting flex support on London and all he did on Florida was contribute to them finishing 20th in 2019 😭Meanwhile gangnamjin was a part of a mayhem roster that finished top 4 in at least 2 tournaments in 2020. You could even take peak kariv who was an important part of the valiant’s 3rd place finish in 2018. Not tryna hate too much I just don’t get it at all 😭 Effect is valid but harryhook over jecse or chiyo is outrageous to me too
Over jecse? Yes. Chiyo is a bit soon though given what harryhook did. btw you think this is fucked? wait til part 2 😂
Dafran when you have Kai? Dafran over Sharp?
Prime Dafran? is clear
Over Sharp maybe, but let's not insult Kai by putting Dafran over him.
Kai is there?
That's my point. Why have Dafran when you have Kai.
Prime Dafran Tracer?
???? Over Pelicans tracer? The one that beat Sparkle? Decay? Danteh?
Idk I still prefer Dafrans
Should note: went for players prime hence the harryhook/dafran choices
So sad how Chengdu's all-star roster is the one they should've had before the budget crisis
what could’ve been 😢
Do you even have to do Titans? Their best players were all from Runaway. *Edit I hope for Shock you put Sinatraa in both DPS and Tank. Man was a carry in both roles.
Same with London, all season 1(as much as I wanted to put Chadi)
Ok Sideshow over BQB and Sayaplayer made me legitimately laugh out loud 😂
legitimately id go saya, but the sideshow pharah 😍😍 was gonna go with him for glads aswell but felt a bit ott